'Pal', Internet Service Software for 10.3 (with Pictures)

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  • Reply 81 of 148
    othelloothello Posts: 1,054member
    wasn't there a rumour ages ago about a piece of apple software (junkyad, scrapyard or something) which would aid in rescuing/fixing your mac?



    or did that turn out to be the journal feature?
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  • Reply 82 of 148
    buonrottobuonrotto Posts: 6,368member
    To me, it's the same idea as the Remote Desktop Connection (or whatever it's called) software from Windows but probably doing it more in the way *nix windowing systems can serve up remote displays. I would just assume it does more than this, or somehow allows more features and eases the setup of such things. How it compares and contrasts with Remote Desktop from Apple now I do not know. FWIW, the lightbulb icon looks a bit silly.
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  • Reply 83 of 148
    http://www.toptechtips.net/modules.p...rticle&sid=457



    What suppose to be on that page, I can't open it up?
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  • Reply 84 of 148
    quickquick Posts: 227member
    No one would create such a perfect illustration of a lightbulb just to mess with the type afterwards. So, you guys may believe it's a fake, but not because of the way it is graphically designed.
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  • Reply 85 of 148
    rokrok Posts: 3,519member
    what can i say, looks legit to me, BUT i was also the ones who thought the leaked cube photos were 100% fake...
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  • Reply 86 of 148
    cindercinder Posts: 381member
    Brad: Right. My mistake. I got those names confused.



    JLL: Yes, I noticed that afterwards.



    As for the lightbulb - yeah it's decent.

    But there are about 50 billion tutorials out there on how to make Aqua effects - and the lightbulb/blob illustration is nothing spectacular.



    The thing is - it Doesnt look like ANYTHING Apple has put out yet.





    Not to mention - why isn't the text black on the front?



    it's in shadows and dark.



    Mock up boxes are not generally full-size, cut, folded final printed boxes.

    At least not in my experience.





    Still, no one has been able to explain to me why Apple would bundle this feature seperately and prepare it ahead of time before Panther is even in beta.

    It's 2-3 months away.



    This alone should make it obvious.
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  • Reply 87 of 148
    quickquick Posts: 227member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by cinder

    Mock up boxes are not generally full-size, cut, folded final printed boxes.

    At least not in my experience.





    In fact, they are. You need to know how it looks like. And clients want to experience the real thing before they give you a final OK for print.

    Believe me, I have designed hundreds of dummy-boxes in my career so far.
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  • Reply 88 of 148
    buonrottobuonrotto Posts: 6,368member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Mac Man 020581

    http://www.toptechtips.net/modules.p...rticle&sid=457



    What suppose to be on that page, I can't open it up?




    It looks like a good fake if it is one. I thought the Cube pictures were real, this looks pretty real to me too. Anyway, the post on that site made me cast some doubt on the story they were told for one reason:



    "Pal is a small wireless device with a touch sensitive screen, which can remotely login to your desktop Mac. It is suitable for surfing the web on the move."



    I don't think Jobs nor anyone else at Apple would think that a small screen (how small?) would be suitable for web browsing, not to mention a vis-a-vis recreation of your desktop. So I don't think that report of what Pal supposedly is could be accurate.



    oh, here's the whole entry:



    Quote:

    Final update & possible idea of what "Pal" is: - This was just sent in to us: Pal is a small wireless device with a touch sensitive screen, which can remotely login to your desktop Mac. It is suitable for surfing the web on the move. When your Mac is out of range, Pal logs in to your .Mac account, to provide limited functionality - hence "forget syncing". It has a pen based input method, using Inkwell, but it is not positioned as a Tablet PC since it does not have an internal hard drive. It's not a Mac replacement, it's a Mac companion. It's not a personal organiser, it's a handy means of accessing your desktop and the Internet wherever you are. It puts our desktop at your fingertips literally because you can see you desktop form a handy hand-held device. The reason they called it Pal rather than iPal is because it's a whole new product category (think Newton, Pipin etc) which is designed to work with both the consumer and pro range. This also explains why the logo and type size are a little different. This is not a box, and this is not the Pal packaging - it's in store POS Don't ask me how I know all this - I just know



    This final update goes with what Mac Whispers were talking about last month.



    We got sent in a few screenshots (including a box shot) earlier in the day showing off a new piece of Apple software/hardware called 'Pal'. It is being classed as an Internet service software that is basically the "Mac Desktop" for the Internet. Not like .Mac has been for a storing files, but something completely new. Coining the terms:"Illuminate the Internet.""See the Light" "Green Light to the Internet".



    Another update: The .Mac website seems to clearly state a "Coming Soon" program that will allow "Anywhere Access" - http://www.mac.com/1/learningcenter/



    The box shot reads:



    "Green Light... the Internet... Forget discs. Forget synching... Pal takes your desktop and puts... your fingertips using Mac OS X 10.3... can take your life on the road... use your computer and Pal to fix... problems. So what are you waiting... see the light."



    The box had an 'aqua' look lightbulb logo on it in green. We will try to get some more screenshots and post them up later, various other websites have been sent them but Apple's Legal team has asked for them to be removed (Which means they are likely to be real). Update: It is looking more and more like this piece of software or hardware from Apple will basically take your desktop/files and put it on to "Pal" (Assuming it is a Firewire drive or more likely an internet service) and you will be able to access your desktop and all of your preferences from any Panther Mac that has "Pal" installed. Nifty, assuming it doesn't turn out to be fake that is.



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  • Reply 89 of 148
    cindercinder Posts: 381member
    Quick: I will yield to your expertise on that one.



    Now, see - they totally blew it with that supposed new description.

    No way is Apple selling this imaginary 'Pal' without a picture of the thing on the box - in a software box that is modeled after the .Mac box.

    How convienient. Fits in with their original story that they keep changing. Apparently Apple doesn't really know what it does either?



    Plus - that text is terribly written.



    MacRumors also moved this one to page2

    aka: yup. it's BS.
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  • Reply 90 of 148
    quickquick Posts: 227member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by cinder

    Now, see - they totally blew it with that supposed new description.





    Full Ack!

    The box design looks more or less OK to me. But the rest... NO way!
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  • Reply 91 of 148
    drewpropsdrewprops Posts: 2,321member
    3GPP & the new Quicktime



    Could it have to do with that?
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  • Reply 92 of 148
    rokrok Posts: 3,519member
    y'know, i hate to bring up ghosts of old, forgotten rumors... ah hell, no i don't!



    from a search of the federal goverment's applications for trademarks, our old friend...



    GIGAWIRE



    Quote:

    Goods and Services

    IC 038. US 100 101 104. G & S: Telecommunication services, namely, local and long distance transmission of voice, data, and graphics by means of computer, telephone, telegraphic, cable, and satellite transmission; telecommunication services, namely telecommunications gateway services, ISDN services; cellular telephone communication services; electronic transmission of data and documents via computer terminals, communication by telephone, facsimile transmission; electronic mail (E-MAIL) services; electronic transmission of messages, data and images; electronic communication between computer peripherals and devices; providing electronic information about in the field of telecommunications via the Internet



    IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: electrical and electronic equipment comprising adapter cards, cables, semiconductors and parts therefor; computer hardware; computers; computer firmware for the transmission of digital data; computer peripheral devices comprising adapter cards, cables, semiconductors, scanners, smart monitors, modems, printers, disk drives, namely fixed, floppy, cartridge and tape drives, CD-ROM drives, CD-Recordable (CD-R) drives, CD-Rewritable (CD-RW) drives; DVD-ROM (Read only DVD) drives, and Rewritable DVD (DVD-RAM) drives; handheld computers; telephones, mobile telephones, telecommunications equipment and devices comprising computer hardware, telephones, personal digital assistant devices, and mobile and handheld digital devices; wireless information devices comprising computer hardware, telephones, personal digital assistant devices, and mobile and handheld digital devices; computer software programs for the transmission of digital data; computer operating programs, computer utility programs; computer utility programs for use with computers, telecommunications equipment and devices and computer peripheral devices...



    Owner

    (APPLICANT) Apple Computer, Inc. CORPORATION CALIFORNIA 1 Intinite Loop Cupertino CALIFORNIA 95014



    if Pal does exist, it seems Gigawire may be the way to get there.
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  • Reply 93 of 148
    gabidgabid Posts: 477member
    Quote:

    "Pal is a small wireless device with a touch sensitive screen, which can remotely login to your desktop Mac. It is suitable for surfing the web on the move."



    Hmm. I wonder if they're playing off the rumor from right before the January MacWorld about some sort of handheld device that a reputable source reported on (Cnet? Eweek? I forget, but it talked about a 7 inch screen if I remember).



    I'd love for this to be true, but I'm going to remain healthily sceptical since it would be great for me (assuming this thing would actually be able to run Office off your desktop remotely). Mind you, if this thing did work I wonder how it would factor out in my DSL upload/download limit?
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  • Reply 94 of 148
    ghost_user_nameghost_user_name Posts: 22,667member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Paul

    well, by counting the links it seems we should have 2 more pics coming to us...



    Nope. One is on page 1 of this thread. Three are on page 2 of this thread. That's four. There's a fifth, but it's a dup of one of the others with just a different name.
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  • Reply 95 of 148
    ibrowseibrowse Posts: 1,749member
    About there should be two more images coming, there were five. They were titled manual, newbox, palboxcloseup, palretailbox, and scanned. But I'm not sure what the scanned one was supposed to be really, because it is different artwork then on the 'box' and 'manual'. I don't think Brad bothered to put up the fifth because the newbox and palretailbox images seemed to be the exact same thing.

    [Edit, as Brad said while I was typing.]



    The 'a' on the side is completely horrible, let alone the entire word 'Pal' is the wrong color. The rest of the text on the side, as I have said, is skewed incorrectly compared to the rest of the box. The glare from the flash is too high and to the right if you look at where the camera is positioned for such a straight on shot. If you look at the bottom left corner, the edges have a white border. Product boxes have a description on them, not an advertising slogan. I have problems believing pictures of 'future' Apple products where the photos are taken poorly, too close, and off centered. In the case of either the Quicksilvers or the windtunnel G4's (can't remember which, maybe both) pictures that were leaked I was more flexible with the poor quality of the images because I figiured that if they were real they had obviously been taken in a hurry incase they were caught. But this is different, one of the is supposedly scanned, why not just take the time to get a decent shot? And, if you look at my highly technical diagram below, it appears that the flash lightened the logo. But not really washed out like a camera flash wold do, but it almost turns the green to a yellowish color.







    This is weird because it looks as if the flash actually affected the aqua in the logo, which wouldn't happen if it were just printed on a box. While I have noticed all of these things, I am allowing for about half of them to just be myself looking for something wrong with it, and I don't 100% doubt it, I'm just really skeptical.
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  • Reply 96 of 148
    paulpaul Posts: 5,278member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Brad

    Nope. One is on page 1 of this thread. Three are on page 2 of this thread. That's four. There's a fifth, but it's a dup of one of the others with just a different name.



    oh, too bad. I thought d linked to 5 different images and then a 6th in his 2nd post...

    thats what i get for not checking the links, stupid vB formatting...
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  • Reply 97 of 148
    ibrowseibrowse Posts: 1,749member
    I guess somebody over at MacNN clicked on the iSync link this morning, and on the iSync page discovered this image;



    It has since been replaced with an image of Safari, but it's still on that page on the site for Apple Spain. If those stop working I have a screen shot. It's not anything that you can really tell what it is, but it appears to be logged into somebody's .mac mail and have all their Safari bookmarks.
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  • Reply 98 of 148
    rokrok Posts: 3,519member
    by the way, as those of you who frequent adobe photoshop and also do a lot of marketing materials can attest, hardly any images of "product boxes" are legit. often, they are mocked up with such tools as the skew tools in photoshop, just to get a quick comp. that might be what we are seeing here -- pieces of those comps.



    but honestly, if i were leaking these photos, why crop out parts of text???



    damn, why does wwdc have to STILL be three weeks away?!?!? i don't think i'll last that long...
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  • Reply 99 of 148
    rokrok Posts: 3,519member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by iBrowse

    It's not anything that you can really tell what it is, but it appears to be logged into somebody's .mac mail and have all their Safari bookmarks.



    it kinda looks like a gussied-up iChat.
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  • Reply 100 of 148
    ibrowseibrowse Posts: 1,749member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by rok

    it kinda looks like a gussied-up iChat.



    Those features would be a very nice addition to iChat, when was that updated last..? ...
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