Well, that depends... Are you asking (1) how Steve Jobs will pronounce the last word in this sentence: "Tie him up! Prepare him for a rifling!"
...or...
(2) What is the proper spelling when you've gone completely insane, awake way too late at night, thinking about a computer you won't even be able to buy?
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1) It is "riffiling," pronounced rif|EYEL|in' in a Southern accent.
Regardless of whether this was a hack or a mistake or a conscious decision by Apple, does it really make any difference? I mean, was anyone who will likely see this information (ie, someone who at least pays tacit attention to Apple news) really planning on buying a new PowerMac G4 in the next 3 days (and next 1 business day)?
Mac Whispers, who's credibility is now increased, has posted this whopper of a story. The ENTIRE Apple product line (Powerbooks, Xserves and even iMac)s will go G5 by Christmas.
"June 20, 2003
Out On A Limb: Our WWDC Predictions
This past week has been interesting to us, as we have made a specific effort to touch base one last time with as many of our OEM channel contacts as possible, prior to Monday's WWDC keynote. Our goal was to get a more specific sense of what the people actually working in and around Apple's production operations believe is coming insofar as new products, when those products will appear, and the performance levels to expect. At the risk of a huge blow to our already tenuous credibility, we have chosen to publish those very surprising findings.
What we have discovered is a pool of manufacturing personnel in Apple's behind the scenes operations that is convinced that the bulk of the common-wisdom based predictions recently appearing about Apple's upcoming product releases is wrong. The consensus we found is that all of the published predictions are completely too conservative... way, way, strikingly, preposterously too conservative. If all, or even most of the bits of information we gleaned this week are true, what we will see next week, and during the next 30 to 45-days thereafter will turn not only the Apple community, but the entire PC world on their heads.
The PowerPC 970
Speeds are faster than the 1.4Ghz to 1.8GHz range that has been most commonly mentioned... perhaps, much, much faster. The product list ready or very nearly ready to release around PowerPC 970 processors is longer than previously believed... perhaps much, much longer. And, the aggressiveness with which Apple is approaching the PowerPC 970 transition is being more intensely and more competently pursued than has been believed. In other words, the whispers from Taiwan are all in unison telling one specific story: the PowerPC 970 platform is ready now... across the Apple board.
We still have not been able to get anyone to provide details on specific hardware products; in fact, we have been told that Apple has very assertively passed the word to all suppliers to "keep their mouths shut" about PowerPC 970 related activity. But, there is a general mood of enthusiasm and almost giddy excitement widespread among the many companies doing the work to bring us this new hardware. They say that it would be very difficult to over-predict how suddenly the entire Apple world is going to be scaled up to a pretty startling new level of performance.
The Prediction
We believe that the complete Power Macintosh G5 line is ready to bring to market, today. We also believe that not only is the 15.4-inch Powerbook ready to go, but that both the 17 and 12-inch variants are much, much closer to seeing daylight in new PPC 970 trim than anyone would have believed. We have been told that the Xserve PPC 970 versions have been completed. And, we heard a credible assertion just yesterday that the iMac platform is "within only weeks" of seeing a move to the PPC 970, as well.
In all, the word on our wire is that Apple has been even busier and more successful than our most fanciful, optimistic thinking would have previously allowed us to believe. The PowerPC 970 transition is not going to come as a protracted series of minor trickles, stretched out over a 12 to 18-month period; it is coming in a dizzying, mad rush, between now and Christmas. And, it all starts Monday, with Steve Jobs' 2-hour keynote address at the Worldwide Developers Conference.
Nah, it's all just marketing strategy about making as big a "media splash" as possible. It's what Apple is so good at. Trying to save up maximum surprise and impact for maximum cheering and bedazzlement when Steve announces the dual 2Ghz G5 on Monday.
Now we won't be so surprised. But we'll cheer like hell anyway.
First those are the specs for the new PowerMacs. Apple was not hacked. It was a cache "ghost" image from Akamai.
Second the PCI or PCI-X means that the slot is PCI and has the extra part for PCI-X tailing on the end. That means all the slots are PCI-X and backwards compatible with PCI.
8 GB of RAM is not very far fetched. I have 6 GB in my office workstation.
The rest of you posting about how it says 2 GB at the bottom, IT'S IRRELEVANT. The only IMAGE that was replaced was the one at the top. Everything else was just the old page. THe only info HAVING anything to do with the G5 is the one image at the top.
Hmm, I don't know about the MacWhispers story. Now that's something that just sounds too good to be true. Plus the MacWhispers guy is pretty unreliable, if you ask me.
I'm sure Apple is going to make the G5 transition really fast -- just to make up for lost time -- but I can't believe they're going to want to cannibalize their juicy, long-awaited, high-margin PowerMac sales by throwing G5s into everything in the next two months. As if that would even be possible.
Next six to eight months, though... That would be awesome.
That would be devastating if it was an internal hack...
The Mac world as we know it slip into a state of depression from which we could never escape without years and years of therapy. Honestly, if someone was capable of getting in there, making up and image, and loading it on the store, it is my assumption that they'd go as far fetched as possible. They'd post numbers like, "Quad 50Ghz G6, 90GB DDRAM", and what have you.
Macs have always been on the forefront with Pro Audio.
The digital audio i/o means more for the mortals than the pros. The pros will most likely still use PCI cards or the new Firewire interfaces (digidesign or motu).
But for the prosumers this means a lot. Not only home theater applications, but a much better and higher quality integration with OSX Core Audio. This supports Apple's recent acuisition of Logic.
Apple wants us all to edit with Final Cut, composite with Shake and mix/record with Logic.
Hmm, I don't know about the MacWhisper story. Now that sounds too good to be true.
I'm sure Apple is going to make the G5 transition really fast -- just to make up for lost time -- but I can't believe they're going to want to cannibalize their juicy, long-awaited, high-margin PowerMac sales by throwing G5s into everything in the next two months. If that would even be possible.
Well, I agree that it sounds a bit far-fetched. But at the same time I've never seen Apple try so hard to get rid of product as right now. 12" PB and 17" iMacs for $1300. It's very, very odd. Revving everything sounds very, very difficult, though.
As for the margins - I disagree. 1.2, 1.4, 1.6 GHz 970s in PBs, iMacs, duals in the Xserves - the products differentiate themselves without worrying about holding CPUs up. Most people won't buy a tower instead of an iMac just because of the 970.
No, it seems that if dual 2.0GHz G5 are real, the only thing preventing a full sweep is Apple's ability to engineer all of this stuff. There's nothing in marketing that should get in the way.
At which point everyone would know for sure it's a hack, or a joke. These specs are REALISTIC. They could actually be real, and I can see being able to go out and buy one for $1500-$3000 by Monday.
No kidding. That is optimism to the point of sheer fantasy at MacWhispers. 970-based iMacs in a few weeks, and 970-based 12" PowerBooks soon?? ALL Macs running 970s by the end of fall? No way! The general sense of optimism reported is probably true, and sounds encouraging, but I think it means a MUCH more gradual transition than that.
I think we'll see IBM G3+AltiVec "G4s" (if not Motorola ones) through 2004 and beyond, in consumer products. Which is fine, since MHz can increase. And I would not be surprised if NO 970 portables appear until next year.
Of course, this coming from me, who expected 970s to appear in the fall, topping out at 1.8 Ghz. Guess I was too conservative there
Comments
Originally posted by tsukurite
ROTFL!
<OT>Is it riffling, rifling, or riffiling?</OT>
Well, that depends... Are you asking (1) how Steve Jobs will pronounce the last word in this sentence: "Tie him up! Prepare him for a rifling!"
...or...
(2) What is the proper spelling when you've gone completely insane, awake way too late at night, thinking about a computer you won't even be able to buy?
__________________________________________
1) It is "riffiling," pronounced rif|EYEL|in' in a Southern accent.
2) Does it matter?
Just something to get your hopes up
8)
"June 20, 2003
Out On A Limb: Our WWDC Predictions
This past week has been interesting to us, as we have made a specific effort to touch base one last time with as many of our OEM channel contacts as possible, prior to Monday's WWDC keynote. Our goal was to get a more specific sense of what the people actually working in and around Apple's production operations believe is coming insofar as new products, when those products will appear, and the performance levels to expect. At the risk of a huge blow to our already tenuous credibility, we have chosen to publish those very surprising findings.
What we have discovered is a pool of manufacturing personnel in Apple's behind the scenes operations that is convinced that the bulk of the common-wisdom based predictions recently appearing about Apple's upcoming product releases is wrong. The consensus we found is that all of the published predictions are completely too conservative... way, way, strikingly, preposterously too conservative. If all, or even most of the bits of information we gleaned this week are true, what we will see next week, and during the next 30 to 45-days thereafter will turn not only the Apple community, but the entire PC world on their heads.
The PowerPC 970
Speeds are faster than the 1.4Ghz to 1.8GHz range that has been most commonly mentioned... perhaps, much, much faster. The product list ready or very nearly ready to release around PowerPC 970 processors is longer than previously believed... perhaps much, much longer. And, the aggressiveness with which Apple is approaching the PowerPC 970 transition is being more intensely and more competently pursued than has been believed. In other words, the whispers from Taiwan are all in unison telling one specific story: the PowerPC 970 platform is ready now... across the Apple board.
We still have not been able to get anyone to provide details on specific hardware products; in fact, we have been told that Apple has very assertively passed the word to all suppliers to "keep their mouths shut" about PowerPC 970 related activity. But, there is a general mood of enthusiasm and almost giddy excitement widespread among the many companies doing the work to bring us this new hardware. They say that it would be very difficult to over-predict how suddenly the entire Apple world is going to be scaled up to a pretty startling new level of performance.
The Prediction
We believe that the complete Power Macintosh G5 line is ready to bring to market, today. We also believe that not only is the 15.4-inch Powerbook ready to go, but that both the 17 and 12-inch variants are much, much closer to seeing daylight in new PPC 970 trim than anyone would have believed. We have been told that the Xserve PPC 970 versions have been completed. And, we heard a credible assertion just yesterday that the iMac platform is "within only weeks" of seeing a move to the PPC 970, as well.
In all, the word on our wire is that Apple has been even busier and more successful than our most fanciful, optimistic thinking would have previously allowed us to believe. The PowerPC 970 transition is not going to come as a protracted series of minor trickles, stretched out over a 12 to 18-month period; it is coming in a dizzying, mad rush, between now and Christmas. And, it all starts Monday, with Steve Jobs' 2-hour keynote address at the Worldwide Developers Conference.
Prepare to be amazed."
Now we won't be so surprised. But we'll cheer like hell anyway.
Second the PCI or PCI-X means that the slot is PCI and has the extra part for PCI-X tailing on the end. That means all the slots are PCI-X and backwards compatible with PCI.
8 GB of RAM is not very far fetched. I have 6 GB in my office workstation.
The rest of you posting about how it says 2 GB at the bottom, IT'S IRRELEVANT. The only IMAGE that was replaced was the one at the top. Everything else was just the old page. THe only info HAVING anything to do with the G5 is the one image at the top.
"And, my understanding is that the .GIF image briefly on the Apple Store web page was an internal hack... not "Apple inadvertently..."
Posted by MacWhispers at June 20, 2003 02:16 AM "
That would be devastating if it was an internal hack...
Originally posted by craiger77
For all you who can't wait for G5 Powerbooks (or even iMacs) take a look at what Macwhispers just posted: http://www.envestco2.com/macwhispers...ves/000078.php
Just something to get your hopes up
8)
if macwhispers is even remotely correct...all i can say is **** a duck, i will be spending lots of money this year
g
I'm sure Apple is going to make the G5 transition really fast -- just to make up for lost time -- but I can't believe they're going to want to cannibalize their juicy, long-awaited, high-margin PowerMac sales by throwing G5s into everything in the next two months. As if that would even be possible.
Next six to eight months, though... That would be awesome.
Originally posted by johnsonwax
Don't overlook this comment at MacWhispers under that story:
"And, my understanding is that the .GIF image briefly on the Apple Store web page was an internal hack... not "Apple inadvertently..."
Posted by MacWhispers at June 20, 2003 02:16 AM "
That would be devastating if it was an internal hack...
That would be incredibly bad. It Jack Whispers really believes that though, it's strange he didn't say so in his actual article.
Originally posted by johnsonwax
That would be devastating if it was an internal hack...
The Mac world as we know it slip into a state of depression from which we could never escape without years and years of therapy. Honestly, if someone was capable of getting in there, making up and image, and loading it on the store, it is my assumption that they'd go as far fetched as possible. They'd post numbers like, "Quad 50Ghz G6, 90GB DDRAM", and what have you.
At least, that's what I would do
Originally posted by craiger77
For all you who can't wait for G5 Powerbooks (or even iMacs) take a look at what Macwhispers just posted: http://www.envestco2.com/macwhispers...ves/000078.php
Just something to get your hopes up
8)
bleh, he's full of it concerning the 970 PowerBooks.
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Macs have always been on the forefront with Pro Audio.
The digital audio i/o means more for the mortals than the pros. The pros will most likely still use PCI cards or the new Firewire interfaces (digidesign or motu).
But for the prosumers this means a lot. Not only home theater applications, but a much better and higher quality integration with OSX Core Audio. This supports Apple's recent acuisition of Logic.
Apple wants us all to edit with Final Cut, composite with Shake and mix/record with Logic.
*charges the RDF*
*realises there is no need for it this time round .. and smiles*
Originally posted by Hobbes
Hmm, I don't know about the MacWhisper story. Now that sounds too good to be true.
I'm sure Apple is going to make the G5 transition really fast -- just to make up for lost time -- but I can't believe they're going to want to cannibalize their juicy, long-awaited, high-margin PowerMac sales by throwing G5s into everything in the next two months. If that would even be possible.
Well, I agree that it sounds a bit far-fetched. But at the same time I've never seen Apple try so hard to get rid of product as right now. 12" PB and 17" iMacs for $1300. It's very, very odd. Revving everything sounds very, very difficult, though.
As for the margins - I disagree. 1.2, 1.4, 1.6 GHz 970s in PBs, iMacs, duals in the Xserves - the products differentiate themselves without worrying about holding CPUs up. Most people won't buy a tower instead of an iMac just because of the 970.
No, it seems that if dual 2.0GHz G5 are real, the only thing preventing a full sweep is Apple's ability to engineer all of this stuff. There's nothing in marketing that should get in the way.
I think we'll see IBM G3+AltiVec "G4s" (if not Motorola ones) through 2004 and beyond, in consumer products. Which is fine, since MHz can increase. And I would not be surprised if NO 970 portables appear until next year.
Of course, this coming from me, who expected 970s to appear in the fall, topping out at 1.8 Ghz. Guess I was too conservative there