The Case is butt ugly too...Too bad they didn't just put it in the old one.
Hmm, lets see, new motherboard design, new I/O design, serial at drives(more expensive). more expensive memory, everything in this machine exccept for maybe the cpu and vid card costs more. they have to pay for their R&D(which is why things are always more expensive at first).
newsflash: the 970 chip isn't the only thing inside the G5.
Thank you. You beat me to it.
- Serial ATA
- Hypertransport
- AGP 8x pro
- speed holes
The processor is just one aspect of the price. Do you want to know how much tooling costs of a new housing? How many layers is the motherboard? All this cost Geld, unfortunately.
I'd be willing to bet you can configure them without the SuperDrive, though; so you could pick up a base model for $1,799. It's odd that Apple didn't make the SuperDrive optional on that model just to get a lower starting price.
Still, the only people who will buy at this price are people who were waiting to upgrade their Macs anyway. At a cheaper price, I think they could have attracted switchers.
It reminds me of the original rollout of the PowerPC. Killer product, way too high of a price. I fear Apple remains a niche player--which will be profitable for the, just not what I hoped.
The high end dual looks to me to be the best value. The prices are about what I expected. Again, who would ever buy an iMac if the low end G5 came in close to an iMac?
Still, the only people who will buy at this price are people who were waiting to upgrade their Macs anyway. At a cheaper price, I think they could have attracted switchers.
It reminds me of the original rollout of the PowerPC. Killer product, way too high of a price. I fear Apple remains a niche player--which will be profitable for the, just not what I hoped.
What? Way too high? Only the low end increased and it WIPES THE GOD DAMN FLOOR WITH THE OLD G4 HIGH END!!! What's the fricking propblem seeing the value here!?!?
The processor is just one aspect of the price. Do you want to know how much tooling costs of a new housing? How many layers is the motherboard? All this cost Geld, unfortunately.
and add the prize of an all alu case with 8-9 fans.
The dual G5 has a very good prize, i think i am going to buy one. I am nearly sure for this.
What? Way too high? Only the low end increased and it WIPES THE GOD DAMN FLOOR WITH THE OLD G4 HIGH END!!! What's the fricking propblem seeing the value here!?!?
(120 second delay between posts SUCKS ASS)
Right, but I could have convinced my company to buy me something at the old low-end price. Talking them into a $2000 dollar machine will be lots harder. And the old low end wasn't worth the price. The high end tower is priced about right, but that's the only machine I think is worth the price.
You are comparing thing to Apple's old line. My company will compare with every PC manufacturer on the planet.
The new low end machine is $300 more if you downgrade to the combo drive. It's not *cheap* to be certain but the relative performance of teh new machine is drastically better.
The Case is butt ugly too...Too bad they didn't just put it in the old one.
Sure, the G5 chips are technically less expensive than the G4's, but the rest of the specs (standard Superdrive, DDR 400, USB 2.0) kinda take away the money that was saved with the 970 chips...
...who would ever buy an iMac if the low end G5 came in close to an iMac?
Someone who wanted to see what they were doing.
A 17" display adds another $700 to that price. So even with the Combo drive discount, you're looking at $2,500 minimum to buy complete G5 system from Apple. Of course, you get a lot more speed for that money, too.
Anyone notice that Apple seems to have done away with the Pro Speakers, Pro Keyboard, and Pro Mouse on this thing? They're including the cheaper eMac keyboard & mouse, and they've removed that weird Pro Speaker port in favor of the Optical Audio port. The Apple Store is touting a big $300 Logitech THX surround system to plug into that hole instead.
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the demand is there. apple delivered. and apple knows the pros are willing to shell out the cash.
Originally posted by gcarswell
What's with the price increases?
The Case is butt ugly too...Too bad they didn't just put it in the old one.
Hmm, lets see, new motherboard design, new I/O design, serial at drives(more expensive). more expensive memory, everything in this machine exccept for maybe the cpu and vid card costs more. they have to pay for their R&D(which is why things are always more expensive at first).
Originally posted by vitaflo
newsflash: the 970 chip isn't the only thing inside the G5.
Thank you. You beat me to it.
- Serial ATA
- Hypertransport
- AGP 8x pro
- speed holes
The processor is just one aspect of the price. Do you want to know how much tooling costs of a new housing? How many layers is the motherboard? All this cost Geld, unfortunately.
We're back to a single drive bay too
It reminds me of the original rollout of the PowerPC. Killer product, way too high of a price. I fear Apple remains a niche player--which will be profitable for the, just not what I hoped.
Originally posted by gcarswell
What's with the price increases?
The Case is butt ugly too...Too bad they didn't just put it in the old one.
The case ROCKS. ANd yes,m the G5 is cheaper and that's why we HAVE THE SPECS AND FEATURES THE G5 HAS!! Compare the 3k G5 to the old 3k G4 Specs!!
Damn people.
Originally posted by D.J. Adequate
Still, the only people who will buy at this price are people who were waiting to upgrade their Macs anyway. At a cheaper price, I think they could have attracted switchers.
It reminds me of the original rollout of the PowerPC. Killer product, way too high of a price. I fear Apple remains a niche player--which will be profitable for the, just not what I hoped.
What? Way too high? Only the low end increased and it WIPES THE GOD DAMN FLOOR WITH THE OLD G4 HIGH END!!! What's the fricking propblem seeing the value here!?!?
(120 second delay between posts SUCKS ASS)
Originally posted by GardenOfEarthlyDelights
Thank you. You beat me to it.
- Serial ATA
- Hypertransport
- AGP 8x pro
- speed holes
The processor is just one aspect of the price. Do you want to know how much tooling costs of a new housing? How many layers is the motherboard? All this cost Geld, unfortunately.
and add the prize of an all alu case with 8-9 fans.
The dual G5 has a very good prize, i think i am going to buy one. I am nearly sure for this.
Originally posted by gcarswell
What's with the price increases?
The Case is butt ugly too...Too bad they didn't just put it in the old one.
Just stop bitchin'. Will ya? Please.
Originally posted by KidRed
What? Way too high? Only the low end increased and it WIPES THE GOD DAMN FLOOR WITH THE OLD G4 HIGH END!!! What's the fricking propblem seeing the value here!?!?
(120 second delay between posts SUCKS ASS)
Right, but I could have convinced my company to buy me something at the old low-end price. Talking them into a $2000 dollar machine will be lots harder. And the old low end wasn't worth the price. The high end tower is priced about right, but that's the only machine I think is worth the price.
You are comparing thing to Apple's old line. My company will compare with every PC manufacturer on the planet.
Originally posted by D.J. Adequate
You are comparing thing to Apple's old line. My company will compare with every PC manufacturer on the planet.
Show them the price tag on a somewhat comparably equipped PC, and then tell them you're saving them $1500 by getting the Mac instead of the PC.
Approach it this way, and you will win.
Originally posted by gcarswell
What's with the price increases?
The Case is butt ugly too...Too bad they didn't just put it in the old one.
Sure, the G5 chips are technically less expensive than the G4's, but the rest of the specs (standard Superdrive, DDR 400, USB 2.0) kinda take away the money that was saved with the 970 chips...
Originally posted by Carson O'Genic
...who would ever buy an iMac if the low end G5 came in close to an iMac?
Someone who wanted to see what they were doing.
A 17" display adds another $700 to that price. So even with the Combo drive discount, you're looking at $2,500 minimum to buy complete G5 system from Apple. Of course, you get a lot more speed for that money, too.
Anyone notice that Apple seems to have done away with the Pro Speakers, Pro Keyboard, and Pro Mouse on this thing? They're including the cheaper eMac keyboard & mouse, and they've removed that weird Pro Speaker port in favor of the Optical Audio port. The Apple Store is touting a big $300 Logitech THX surround system to plug into that hole instead.