Radio, definitely radio. I'm ready to move to a 20G from my 5G, but I've been waiting for GPS, but the radio would be better. Maybe I can tune into Norway. Went there once; enjoyed the trip at the Norwegian Nobel Institute in Oslo.
Why colour when you can have Trondheim?! <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
If Radio's on the table, Apple shouldn't go with AM or FM. Up here in Canada (and in most of the world) radio is just going digital.
While the US is going with In-Band-On Channel (IBOC), everyone else is going with Eureka 147 system broadcasting on the L-Band frequency.
The reason for the difference is reported to be that IBOC keeps AM stations inferior to FM stations - which Big Money interests in the US want - whereas the Eureka system puts all broadcasters on the same playing field, increasing competition in local markets.
Since the iPod is made to read music from 1's and 0's anyway, adding digital radio to the mix can't be that expensive (an L-band receiver).
It would certainly keep the iPod an the forefront of the new music experience.
Actually, having just bought my first iPod, I'd have to say the things are damn near perfect.
(also, fran441: digital radio is not even remotely happening over here, and neither is it in the rest of the world. I would even call it the beauty of AM/FM: wherever you are, if you have a receiver, you can tune in - unlike with many mobile phones).
If so, Apple could release a small device that plugs in to the firewire port and gives you video out.
The iPod could stay as it is (and current owners could just buy the adaptor), but provide a new feature (update to the firmware) that can display photos. Not sure if the hardware could do movies, but being able to display photos on anyones TV (sync'd via iPhoto) would be very cool.
Even better - business users often have to do powerpoint presentations. Now, what if the iPod, with this firewire->video cable, could display pdf on an output device. Convert your powerpoint show to a PDF show (or any other software, like from AppleWorks), store on your iPod, and take your presentation with you. Of course, some special effects done on powerpoint might not be possible, but I'd be very happy to not have to take my laptop around to another company just to show a short slide show.
And best of all, if all you want at any time is an MP3 player, the hardware is no heavier.
<strong>If Radio's on the table, Apple shouldn't go with AM or FM. Up here in Canada (and in most of the world) radio is just going digital.
While the US is going with In-Band-On Channel (IBOC), everyone else is going with Eureka 147 system broadcasting on the L-Band frequency.
The reason for the difference is reported to be that IBOC keeps AM stations inferior to FM stations - which Big Money interests in the US want - whereas the Eureka system puts all broadcasters on the same playing field, increasing competition in local markets.
Since the iPod is made to read music from 1's and 0's anyway, adding digital radio to the mix can't be that expensive (an L-band receiver).
It would certainly keep the iPod an the forefront of the new music experience.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah Apple really cares about what Canada wants ahead of the US. Apple should make all decisions based on what would sell in canada from now on, thats where the big money is...Canada. They could also go into the maple syrup and beer business.
On a serious note, a radio tuner and mic would make the iPod even more desirable, and valuable.
The US seems bent on making a cluster fvck out of digital radio. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> I guess it'd just be too easy to use the same frikken standard as the rest of the world.
also with the BT addition, a 'cut-off' music on incoming call from my mobile phone. so if i'm listening to loud music and i get an incoming call, the ipod automatically mutes so i hear the ringtone
<strong>The only real use for a color screen would be to fashion the iPod into a combination of MP3-player/digital wallet, for photogs to d/l their images too. They would also need to add USB for this to be in any way practical. USB would also make a good addition for the portable HD users out there.</strong><hr></blockquote>
You know, I actually reckon that's pretty close to where it might go next. Currently the iPod is a catalogue for MP3s, probably about the quickest easiest update you can make to such a device is to also have it catalogue images from digital cameras.
Suddenly the iPod *is* the digital hub, and it becomes a must have for a whole new range of users. It also has no competition, and no likely competition for some time to come - Nomad aren't going to try to build something like that.
<strong>The US seems bent on making a cluster fvck out of digital radio. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> I guess it'd just be too easy to use the same frikken standard as the rest of the world.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Isn't that always the case? Different GSM standard, different TV/video standard, still using the "imperial" measurement system when the "Empire" has all but abandoned it...
Rigging the iPod to be for video what it is for audio would make it a different device entirely (despite a certain family resemblance).
Therefore, I'd expect Apple to come out w/ a 'vPod', or 'iVid', using a 2.5" HDD & scaled appropriately; FW & S/Video connectors, etc. 20/40/60 gb drives.
Better that than to destroy the iPod by turning it into a trashwagon - jeez, next folks will want a padded dashboard, rear-view mirrors & virtual fuzzy dice...and fins! And lights!! And more chrome!!!
My one and only wish-list item for the 'Pod?
Voice recording to disk. I just bought a minidisc recorder for this & only this purpose. I wish to the gods I'd had something like that while my parents & grandparents, aunts & uncles were still alive! Interviews, family archives, meetings, brainstorming sessions, significant events - if the iPod could do that, I'd'a slapped that $200 down on an iPod like (*snap*) that.
You know, I actually reckon that's pretty close to where it might go next. Currently the iPod is a catalogue for MP3s, probably about the quickest easiest update you can make to such a device is to also have it catalogue images from digital cameras.
Suddenly the iPod *is* the digital hub, and it becomes a must have for a whole new range of users. It also has no competition, and no likely competition for some time to come - Nomad aren't going to try to build something like that.
And Kodak is quietly shipping 2-inch horizontal OLED screens to a consumer device manufacturer it refused to name. Those screens, configured in the manner of those used in digital cameras, are the first to use active-matrix technology that can play video, said Daniel Gisser of Kodak's display products unit. The product will emerge in the first half of next year, Gisser said.
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In that case, wouldn't AM radio be far better than FM?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Naw, AM just gets you sports talk radio and political call-in shows.
Why colour when you can have Trondheim?! <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
While the US is going with In-Band-On Channel (IBOC), everyone else is going with Eureka 147 system broadcasting on the L-Band frequency.
The reason for the difference is reported to be that IBOC keeps AM stations inferior to FM stations - which Big Money interests in the US want - whereas the Eureka system puts all broadcasters on the same playing field, increasing competition in local markets.
Since the iPod is made to read music from 1's and 0's anyway, adding digital radio to the mix can't be that expensive (an L-band receiver).
It would certainly keep the iPod an the forefront of the new music experience.
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Naw, AM just gets you sports talk radio and political call-in shows. </strong><hr></blockquote>
well there are still places that only have AM channels available, and those are pretty weak
(also, fran441: digital radio is not even remotely happening over here, and neither is it in the rest of the world. I would even call it the beauty of AM/FM: wherever you are, if you have a receiver, you can tune in - unlike with many mobile phones).
If so, Apple could release a small device that plugs in to the firewire port and gives you video out.
The iPod could stay as it is (and current owners could just buy the adaptor), but provide a new feature (update to the firmware) that can display photos. Not sure if the hardware could do movies, but being able to display photos on anyones TV (sync'd via iPhoto) would be very cool.
Even better - business users often have to do powerpoint presentations. Now, what if the iPod, with this firewire->video cable, could display pdf on an output device. Convert your powerpoint show to a PDF show (or any other software, like from AppleWorks), store on your iPod, and take your presentation with you. Of course, some special effects done on powerpoint might not be possible, but I'd be very happy to not have to take my laptop around to another company just to show a short slide show.
And best of all, if all you want at any time is an MP3 player, the hardware is no heavier.
<strong>Toshiba is now shipping a 30gb version of the drive used in the iPod.</strong><hr></blockquote>
nice if it is true but are you confusing 30gig per platter on a 2.5inch HD to the iPods 1.8inch?
this is all i could find: <a href="http://www.toshiba.com/taissdd/products/hdd.shtml" target="_blank">the tosh HDD page</a>
<strong>If Radio's on the table, Apple shouldn't go with AM or FM. Up here in Canada (and in most of the world) radio is just going digital.
While the US is going with In-Band-On Channel (IBOC), everyone else is going with Eureka 147 system broadcasting on the L-Band frequency.
The reason for the difference is reported to be that IBOC keeps AM stations inferior to FM stations - which Big Money interests in the US want - whereas the Eureka system puts all broadcasters on the same playing field, increasing competition in local markets.
Since the iPod is made to read music from 1's and 0's anyway, adding digital radio to the mix can't be that expensive (an L-band receiver).
It would certainly keep the iPod an the forefront of the new music experience.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah Apple really cares about what Canada wants ahead of the US. Apple should make all decisions based on what would sell in canada from now on, thats where the big money is...Canada. They could also go into the maple syrup and beer business.
On a serious note, a radio tuner and mic would make the iPod even more desirable, and valuable.
i jog everyday with my iPod... have used both a 5GB and a 20GB without issue.
has never failed me.... can't believe i used to jog without it
AM/FM: nope
recording: would be nice
rendezvous&BT streaming I/O: i wish
OGG VORBIS support: i wish
also with the BT addition, a 'cut-off' music on incoming call from my mobile phone. so if i'm listening to loud music and i get an incoming call, the ipod automatically mutes so i hear the ringtone
<strong>The only real use for a color screen would be to fashion the iPod into a combination of MP3-player/digital wallet, for photogs to d/l their images too. They would also need to add USB for this to be in any way practical. USB would also make a good addition for the portable HD users out there.</strong><hr></blockquote>
You know, I actually reckon that's pretty close to where it might go next. Currently the iPod is a catalogue for MP3s, probably about the quickest easiest update you can make to such a device is to also have it catalogue images from digital cameras.
Suddenly the iPod *is* the digital hub, and it becomes a must have for a whole new range of users. It also has no competition, and no likely competition for some time to come - Nomad aren't going to try to build something like that.
See recent thread on OLEDs, and fruit companies: <a href="http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=002763" target="_blank">http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=002763</a>
<strong>The US seems bent on making a cluster fvck out of digital radio. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> I guess it'd just be too easy to use the same frikken standard as the rest of the world.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Isn't that always the case? Different GSM standard, different TV/video standard, still using the "imperial" measurement system when the "Empire" has all but abandoned it...
<strong>at least we drive on the right side of the road <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
now that IS something to be proud of. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
Video on/from the iPod: notta chance in hell.
Rigging the iPod to be for video what it is for audio would make it a different device entirely (despite a certain family resemblance).
Therefore, I'd expect Apple to come out w/ a 'vPod', or 'iVid', using a 2.5" HDD & scaled appropriately; FW & S/Video connectors, etc. 20/40/60 gb drives.
Better that than to destroy the iPod by turning it into a trashwagon - jeez, next folks will want a padded dashboard, rear-view mirrors & virtual fuzzy dice...and fins! And lights!! And more chrome!!!
My one and only wish-list item for the 'Pod?
Voice recording to disk. I just bought a minidisc recorder for this & only this purpose. I wish to the gods I'd had something like that while my parents & grandparents, aunts & uncles were still alive! Interviews, family archives, meetings, brainstorming sessions, significant events - if the iPod could do that, I'd'a slapped that $200 down on an iPod like (*snap*) that.
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You know, I actually reckon that's pretty close to where it might go next. Currently the iPod is a catalogue for MP3s, probably about the quickest easiest update you can make to such a device is to also have it catalogue images from digital cameras.
Suddenly the iPod *is* the digital hub, and it becomes a must have for a whole new range of users. It also has no competition, and no likely competition for some time to come - Nomad aren't going to try to build something like that.
See recent thread on OLEDs, and fruit companies: <a href="http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=002763" target="_blank">http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=002763</a></strong><hr></blockquote>
Agreed...for those to lazy to click the link...
A recent article on CNN:
And Kodak is quietly shipping 2-inch horizontal OLED screens to a consumer device manufacturer it refused to name. Those screens, configured in the manner of those used in digital cameras, are the first to use active-matrix technology that can play video, said Daniel Gisser of Kodak's display products unit. The product will emerge in the first half of next year, Gisser said.
<a href="http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/industry/12/14/organic.displays.ap/index.html" target="_blank">'Firefly' display</a>
So is Apple maybe the unnamed manufacturer?
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I'd kick myself senseless if we got a realnice iPod v2 in mid Jan