Unhealthy eating habits are formed during childhood!
But if the unhealthful food isn't available, what happens!?
Unhealthy eating habits are formed during childhood, but that doesn't exclude adulthood. That also doesn't exclude the reversal of such eating habits later in life. What better way to solve the obesity problem by banning candy, soft drinks, and other junk food altogether!?
But if the unhealthful food isn't available, what happens!?
Children don't consume freely available sugary soda in schools. They consume whatever their parents allow them to at home. Sounds pretty reasonable to me.
Actually, this ban doesn't go far enough. It allows for sugary juices that could actually have MORE sugar!
Children don't consume freely available sugary soda in schools. They consume whatever their parents allow them to at home. Sounds pretty reasonable to me.
Actually, this ban doesn't go far enough. It allows for sugary juices that could actually have MORE sugar!
Totally agree! Ban ban ban! No more sugar...AT ALL...none whatsoever. No sugar or fat shall make it across the California border!
And I repeat, then why doesn't California set a precedent and ban the sale of food which don't meet a set of requirements...calorie/fat ratio, saturated/unsaturated fat ratio, etc? The focus on kids is bullshit. There are plenty of fat adults walking around that could benefit from this! We don't stop learning as adults. Why give up after a certain age?
Outlaw Hostess Cupcakes, Coke and Funyuns in California!
Why are you comparing this law that bans soda in schools with a fictional ban on soda in all of California?
Is the anti-soda law one small part of a larger health bill or not?
Why are you comparing this law that bans soda in schools with a fictional ban on soda in all of California?
Is the anti-soda law one small part of a larger health bill or not?
Because I've been enlightened! This law doesn't do enough. I mean, how can we expect schools AND parents to do the right thing? We shouldn't need to make that choice at all. And a statewide ban on the sale of soft drinks anywhere would obviously completely solve the problem. It's the next step!
yeah, i should qualifiy what i posted by saying that although i think it's a great idea to get soda out of schools, passing laws to ban them is rather retarded. the last thing this country, or any state for that matter needs is more laws. just don't sell them yourself, and educate folks as to why you think that consumption of soda is a bad thing.
"educate folks as to why you think that consumption of soda is a bad thing" LOL Why educate when you can dictate and legislate???
Since we are all so stupid and dumbed down I think the real (REAL) solution liberals could give us is to tax people at 100% of their income and make all of our choices for us. The liberal "Hitlers" can design every aspect of our lives according to what they (the liberal "Hitlers") feel is correct. No that is not a bit extreme as ShawnJ would ask. It is not extreme as you are just not liberal enough if you think that is extreme. Remember it is for the Kids..... Ahhhhhh the lovely kids........ I mean we all know "liberals know best" and as for the rest of us... we are just dumbed down ignorance in need of liberal influence in our lives. The liberal Hitlers can also choose what we do or do not drive and those bikes can be produced by liberal "Enrons" Our Soy-burgers can also by made by another liberal "Enron". All freedoms are deemed selfish and not needed in the new liberal paradigm. Remember the liberal hitlers are the ones in power and if they so choose we may all have blond hair and blue eyes if they so deem it "good for society". Out the window goes individual liberty and in comes the new liberal paradigm. Welcome to hell.
the more i think about this, the worse the idea seems. schools are a place for kids to learn the right way of doing things. sell milk, sell OJ, sell other juices. but soda? it's completely worthless. by selling it thei're endorsing it. to endorse it is just wrong. it' scrap.
there's more to teaching than what goes on in the classroom.
Yeah, but soon you wont be able to get dairy either, because "it will offend the lactose intolerant"..(hey, if they ban peanuts.. and soda, and smoking, and living free, what else they can they do.
Hmm, anyone here remember Demolition Man(the movie?).. seems some parts are coming reality. this is offensive, so banned, this is not considered healthy, hense illegal... hmmmm, I just hope that all restaraunts dont become taco bell...
Hmm, anyone here remember Demolition Man(the movie?).. seems some parts are coming reality. this is offensive, so banned, this is not considered healthy, hense illegal... hmmmm, I just hope that all restaraunts dont become taco bell...
My pellet tasted wonderful, and yours?
Seriously. It's a socialist concept to the extreme. Reduce the choice. Have the government control all forms of distribution. I thought we were past this wrinkle in History...
Eugene is right guys. Let this one slide, then you let another slide, and another and another. This is just to satiate parents into thinking that now their kids will be healthy, never mind that they're smoking cigs and pot, and drinking beer on the weekends (yes, middle school kids do this stuff.).
Eugene is right guys. Let this one slide, then you let another slide, and another and another. This is just to satiate parents into thinking that now their kids will be healthy, never mind that they're smoking cigs and pot, and drinking beer on the weekends (yes, middle school kids do this stuff.).
There's a difference between stopping sales and stopping usage. No one here wants to acknowledge it though. Lemmings.
There's a difference between stopping sales and stopping usage. No one here wants to acknowledge it though. Lemmings.
Yeah, the difference is banning sales of soft drinks at a middle school is useless WRT the intentions of the law. Kids aren't going to get any thinner because they can't buy a Coke from the school for 6-7 hours a day. And since they can bring these drinks from home, it's even more useless.
So the state should implement the better idea. Ban soft drinks altogether, anywhere, for all ages. I mean, they want to combat obesity, right? Soft drinks are evil, right? The state knows what's best, right?
Take soda machines out of schools across the nation.
Take fast food out of cafeterias.
Make P/E mandatory again.
Educate students about nutrition.
Support after-school activities.
It's all part of a score of things that schools can do to help reduce obesity. Removing soda machines from schools is going to make it harder for a kid to have a Coke with his/her lunch everyday unless his parents approve. Combined with other measures that the states should undertake.....it's a good thing overall that should see results.
Hopefully, healthy eating habits established during childhood will remain during adulthood.
Or the 1-Step Eugene approach:
A coke everyday for 180 days for 6 years....that's 500-1000 cokes, bud.
So, we're talking about setting the menu for school kid's meals. Based on this, Fellowship has two posts in the thread, both comparing it to Nazism, and Eugene thinks it is major government level prohibition, and they ought to just make sugar illegal then.
"FIRST THEY'RE GOING TO STOP SELLING COKES IN SCHOOLS, NEXT, IT'S DEATH CAMPS!!!!"
Some of you folks have an active imagination. That's good. It means you're well into the pre-operational stage of cognitive development.
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Originally posted by ShawnJ
Unhealthy eating habits are formed during childhood!
But if the unhealthful food isn't available, what happens!?
Unhealthy eating habits are formed during childhood, but that doesn't exclude adulthood. That also doesn't exclude the reversal of such eating habits later in life. What better way to solve the obesity problem by banning candy, soft drinks, and other junk food altogether!?
Originally posted by Eugene
But if the unhealthful food isn't available, what happens!?
Children don't consume freely available sugary soda in schools. They consume whatever their parents allow them to at home. Sounds pretty reasonable to me.
Actually, this ban doesn't go far enough. It allows for sugary juices that could actually have MORE sugar!
Originally posted by ShawnJ
Children don't consume freely available sugary soda in schools. They consume whatever their parents allow them to at home. Sounds pretty reasonable to me.
Actually, this ban doesn't go far enough. It allows for sugary juices that could actually have MORE sugar!
Totally agree! Ban ban ban! No more sugar...AT ALL...none whatsoever. No sugar or fat shall make it across the California border!
Originally posted by Eugene
And I repeat, then why doesn't California set a precedent and ban the sale of food which don't meet a set of requirements...calorie/fat ratio, saturated/unsaturated fat ratio, etc? The focus on kids is bullshit. There are plenty of fat adults walking around that could benefit from this! We don't stop learning as adults. Why give up after a certain age?
Outlaw Hostess Cupcakes, Coke and Funyuns in California!
Why are you comparing this law that bans soda in schools with a fictional ban on soda in all of California?
Is the anti-soda law one small part of a larger health bill or not?
Originally posted by Eugene
Totally agree! Ban ban ban! No more sugar...AT ALL...none whatsoever. No sugar or fat shall make it across the California border!
Why, that would be a bit extreme. Wouldn't it, Eugene?
Originally posted by bunge
Why are you comparing this law that bans soda in schools with a fictional ban on soda in all of California?
Is the anti-soda law one small part of a larger health bill or not?
Because I've been enlightened! This law doesn't do enough. I mean, how can we expect schools AND parents to do the right thing? We shouldn't need to make that choice at all. And a statewide ban on the sale of soft drinks anywhere would obviously completely solve the problem. It's the next step!
Originally posted by alcimedes
yeah, i should qualifiy what i posted by saying that although i think it's a great idea to get soda out of schools, passing laws to ban them is rather retarded. the last thing this country, or any state for that matter needs is more laws. just don't sell them yourself, and educate folks as to why you think that consumption of soda is a bad thing.
"educate folks as to why you think that consumption of soda is a bad thing" LOL
Since we are all so stupid and dumbed down I think the real (REAL) solution liberals could give us is to tax people at 100% of their income and make all of our choices for us. The liberal "Hitlers" can design every aspect of our lives according to what they (the liberal "Hitlers") feel is correct. No that is not a bit extreme as ShawnJ would ask. It is not extreme as you are just not liberal enough if you think that is extreme. Remember it is for the Kids..... Ahhhhhh the lovely kids........ I mean we all know "liberals know best" and as for the rest of us... we are just dumbed down ignorance in need of liberal influence in our lives. The liberal Hitlers can also choose what we do or do not drive and those bikes can be produced by liberal "Enrons" Our Soy-burgers can also by made by another liberal "Enron". All freedoms are deemed selfish and not needed in the new liberal paradigm. Remember the liberal hitlers are the ones in power and if they so choose we may all have blond hair and blue eyes if they so deem it "good for society". Out the window goes individual liberty and in comes the new liberal paradigm. Welcome to hell.
Fellowship
Originally posted by alcimedes
the more i think about this, the worse the idea seems. schools are a place for kids to learn the right way of doing things. sell milk, sell OJ, sell other juices. but soda? it's completely worthless. by selling it thei're endorsing it. to endorse it is just wrong. it' scrap.
there's more to teaching than what goes on in the classroom.
Yeah, but soon you wont be able to get dairy either, because "it will offend the lactose intolerant"..(hey, if they ban peanuts.. and soda, and smoking, and living free, what else they can they do.
Originally posted by The General
Hmm, anyone here remember Demolition Man(the movie?).. seems some parts are coming reality. this is offensive, so banned, this is not considered healthy, hense illegal... hmmmm, I just hope that all restaraunts dont become taco bell...
My pellet tasted wonderful, and yours?
Seriously. It's a socialist concept to the extreme. Reduce the choice. Have the government control all forms of distribution. I thought we were past this wrinkle in History...
I snuck a pizza in my senior year and was threatened with not being to attend my graduation ceremony.
Never was allowed to wear any exposed legs, like in shorts.
Originally posted by JRC
We were never allowed to have softdrinks, or leave school, or have bags from mcdonalds or other fast food places on it. Like a pizza box.
I snuck a pizza in my senior year and was threatened with not being to attend my graduation ceremony.
Never was allowed to wear any exposed legs, like in shorts.
One day you'll thank your parents for sending you to a reform school.
Seriously, though, what kind of sadistic school did you attend?
Originally posted by Outsider
Eugene is right guys. Let this one slide, then you let another slide, and another and another. This is just to satiate parents into thinking that now their kids will be healthy, never mind that they're smoking cigs and pot, and drinking beer on the weekends (yes, middle school kids do this stuff.).
There's a difference between stopping sales and stopping usage. No one here wants to acknowledge it though. Lemmings.
Originally posted by bunge
There's a difference between stopping sales and stopping usage. No one here wants to acknowledge it though. Lemmings.
Yeah, the difference is banning sales of soft drinks at a middle school is useless WRT the intentions of the law. Kids aren't going to get any thinner because they can't buy a Coke from the school for 6-7 hours a day. And since they can bring these drinks from home, it's even more useless.
So the state should implement the better idea. Ban soft drinks altogether, anywhere, for all ages. I mean, they want to combat obesity, right? Soft drinks are evil, right? The state knows what's best, right?
Originally posted by Eugene
The state knows what's best, right?
Conversely, kids certainly don't know what's best.
Take soda machines out of schools across the nation.
Take fast food out of cafeterias.
Make P/E mandatory again.
Educate students about nutrition.
Support after-school activities.
It's all part of a score of things that schools can do to help reduce obesity. Removing soda machines from schools is going to make it harder for a kid to have a Coke with his/her lunch everyday unless his parents approve. Combined with other measures that the states should undertake.....it's a good thing overall that should see results.
Hopefully, healthy eating habits established during childhood will remain during adulthood.
Or the 1-Step Eugene approach:
A coke everyday for 180 days for 6 years....that's 500-1000 cokes, bud.
You'd sell more than a few diet books.
Originally posted by Eugene
Kids aren't going to get any thinner because they can't buy a Coke from the school for 6-7 hours a day.
They're not going to get any fatter because of it either.
"FIRST THEY'RE GOING TO STOP SELLING COKES IN SCHOOLS, NEXT, IT'S DEATH CAMPS!!!!"
Some of you folks have an active imagination. That's good. It means you're well into the pre-operational stage of cognitive development.