Apps crashing without notice, doing the Houdini and then giving the 'Send bug report?' message.. OpenGL playing up a lot. I even did a clean install after zeroing the HD, hehe, now things are still going wrong, just really fast..
Can't complain much though, I love all the new features, and it really is faster..
Jimzip
Jimzip, I am having the exact same problem. all my apps keep quitting on me! it happens very often, and it is unacceptable. if you figure it out, please tell me what you did to fix it. thanks!
i just want to add that this is on a new Alu-PB15 1 Ghz. but Panther on my older iMac 800mhz is running pretty smoothly.
I'm not sure if this was mentioned. The Desktop keeps finding its way back into my Sidebar, after I have unchecked it numerous in the Finder prefs. The Mac OS X Finder, all versions, are really good at losing user settings and preferences...
I only had Jaguar on my new dual G5 for a couple of weeks before I installed Panther, so I don't have a good frame of reference for what is specific to Panther.
iTunes:
The couple second delay when switching to the app is extremely annoying.
The stutter sometimes when dragging album artwork into the app.
Finder:
Failed network actions causing the Finder be force quitted.
I wish there was an up button in addition to the forward and back buttons.
The spacing in icon view is way too much.
In icon or list view, dragging an item up one or more levels in the same window doesn't seem possible.
Dock:
I wish clicking on a dock icon would toggle show/hide, not just show.
Safari:
Crashes. Not all the time but given enough time it will invariably crash.
Mail:
I don't know if it is a mail server or Mail app problem, but I get the authentication failed dialog box multiple times a day. I really wish there was an option to always assume the login/password for email accounts is valid so I don't ever have to retype my password ever again.
I wish there was an up button in addition to the forward and back buttons.
Cmd-up arrow.
Quote:
Safari:
Crashes. Not all the time but given enough time it will invariably crash.
Well that's kinda true of *all* software, sadly...
Quote:
Mail:
I don't know if it is a mail server or Mail app problem, but I get the authentication failed dialog box multiple times a day. I really wish there was an option to always assume the login/password for email accounts is valid so I don't ever have to retype my password ever again.
Check the 'Remember my password' box in that dialog box. It will store the password in your default Keychain, and use it from them on. (Keychain is an encrypted database so saving your password in there is safe.)
Check the 'Remember my password' box in that dialog box. It will store the password in your default Keychain, and use it from them on. (Keychain is an encrypted database so saving your password in there is safe.)
If his problem is the same problem I've seen (in OS X generally) that's not going to help, because it's already checked.
If it's set to automatically check for mail, every so often there will be a glitch of some sort, the password will be refused, and Mail will ask for another one - even though the correct password is stored in Mail. It's easy to confirm, because if you enter the correct password into the dialog it'll still fail. It's a wierd hiccup. I think Tuttle would prefer less obtrusive behavior and a bit more intelligence on Mail's part ("gee, this password worked five minutes ago...").
I also have a similar complaint where, upon wake from sleep, Mail will spam me with "Could not connect" dialogs all stacked on top of each other, apparently because it takes my broadband router a second too long to reestablish access. A little grace period after wake from sleep would fix that.
Jimzip-- check your system log. looks like my problems under 10.3 are being caused by prebinding errors. everytime one of my apps crashed it said "could not be launched prebound." now, if i only knew what that meant and how to fix it... (reinstalling doesnt help.)
Jimzip-- check your system log. looks like my problems under 10.3 are being caused by prebinding errors. everytime one of my apps crashed it said "could not be launched prebound." now, if i only knew what that meant and how to fix it... (reinstalling doesnt help.)
geek method (may require enabling root to perform fixes):
Quote:
OS X will give you the following regarding prebinding from the Terminal window by typing:
man update_prebinding
update_prebinding tries to synchronize prebinding information for libraries and executables when new files are added to a system. Prebinding information is precalculated address information for libraries used by a given executable or library. By predetermining where a function in another library is destined to be placed, the dynamic linker does not have to resolve symbols at application startup time, and the application can launch faster.
Because each recompilation of a library or executable may place functions at different addresses, a newly installed library or executable's prebinding information might not match the libraries already on the disk. When the dynamic linker determines that prebinding information
update_prebinding ensures that prebinding information is up-to-date after new prebound applications or new versions of system libraries are installed. Given a list of the newly installed files in a package, up date_prebinding finds all the libraries and executables that may dynamically load the changed files. If so, the prebinding information must be updated, and update_prebinding performs redo_prebinding to update that file. update_prebinding builds a dependency graph to minimize the files that must be updated, and applies a few other heuristics to only call redo_prebinding when necessary.
Please Note: Root and terminal are not for newbies... easy to bork your system with improper wildcard use
if you want fix it tips with root access, search for a post by ZO with "prebinding" in the text. blame him. :P
not-so-geek method (updated with Panther support this week):
maintain1 is a GUI to run terminal scripts mainly for people who forget shell commands, don't like to type or if you just don't know any commands. This application allows you to click a button or a drop down menu item, and this will open the terminal application and run the associated script, buttons buttons update_prebind, Findtext view ascii tables, monitor system top command, FTP log system profile, netinfo log Apache error log Apache access log System log, whats running list all ports, info for a port current connections, ppp log Daily, weekly Monthy, all three back to back.view all open files button, ppp0, en0, en1, and en2 buttons to force delete a file and a button to force delete the trash, rebuild desktop script, netspeedup, renice, Disk usage, Kill anything button, cups logs, lpr logs, enable journal file system, repair premissions... remote running of any of these commands, screen capture.
What's New:
Version 5.5:
Added a script to enable the Exposé floater
Added script to start or stop these services: {smtp, fax-receive, auth, chargen, chargen-udp, comsat, daytime, daytime-udp, echo, echo-udp, eppc, exec, finger, ftp, login, nmbd, ntalk, printer, shell, smb-direct, smbd, ssh, swat, telnet, tftp, time, time-udp}
minor changes to interface
Requirements:
Mac OS X 10.2 or later.
hope it helps... will be testing myself later this week post Panther install
If his problem is the same problem I've seen (in OS X generally) that's not going to help, because it's already checked.
Yes, exactly.
I used to get the same problem with Eudora on my old windows 2000 machine. So I assume it is the mail server returning an authentication failure and not a problem with Mail.
If his problem is the same problem I've seen (in OS X generally) that's not going to help, because it's already checked.
If it's set to automatically check for mail, every so often there will be a glitch of some sort, the password will be refused, and Mail will ask for another one - even though the correct password is stored in Mail. It's easy to confirm, because if you enter the correct password into the dialog it'll still fail. It's a wierd hiccup. I think Tuttle would prefer less obtrusive behavior and a bit more intelligence on Mail's part ("gee, this password worked five minutes ago...").
I get this frequently during the day. End up clicking on the cancel button and then hiding mail. Annoying.
It's the little things that bug me. Here's one for you.
Open up a finder window in list view with only a few items in it. Make sure the window is not full.
Now in Jaguar, I could click in the open white space below the list and drag to select as many items as I want. Easy, right?
In Panther, I can't select items in list view without clicking on the line of one of the items. You can't click below the last item and drag up. What upsets me the most is that this DOES work in column view!! Click below and drag right up. Sucky.
Hope this wasn't too confusing. Anyone else bothered by this??
After choosing Log out from the Apple menu, it takes Panther more than 15 secs to actually log out. I can't figure out why there is a delay, like it actually has to think before logging out. Logging in also takes a while longer than Jaguar.
Comments
Originally posted by sc_markt
I miss the option of putting the clock in the dock.
Ask someone to give you clock.app. I still use it. It still works in Panther.
Originally posted by Jimzip
Ugh. I'm having lots of bugs.
Apps crashing without notice, doing the Houdini and then giving the 'Send bug report?' message.. OpenGL playing up a lot. I even did a clean install after zeroing the HD, hehe, now things are still going wrong, just really fast..
Can't complain much though, I love all the new features, and it really is faster..
Jimzip
Jimzip, I am having the exact same problem. all my apps keep quitting on me! it happens very often, and it is unacceptable. if you figure it out, please tell me what you did to fix it. thanks!
i just want to add that this is on a new Alu-PB15 1 Ghz. but Panther on my older iMac 800mhz is running pretty smoothly.
iTunes:
The couple second delay when switching to the app is extremely annoying.
The stutter sometimes when dragging album artwork into the app.
Finder:
Failed network actions causing the Finder be force quitted.
I wish there was an up button in addition to the forward and back buttons.
The spacing in icon view is way too much.
In icon or list view, dragging an item up one or more levels in the same window doesn't seem possible.
Dock:
I wish clicking on a dock icon would toggle show/hide, not just show.
Safari:
Crashes. Not all the time but given enough time it will invariably crash.
Mail:
I don't know if it is a mail server or Mail app problem, but I get the authentication failed dialog box multiple times a day. I really wish there was an option to always assume the login/password for email accounts is valid so I don't ever have to retype my password ever again.
a)cant manually acept a fax call over a voice fax/line
b)no options for custom cover pages
2) I cant get a remote server into the side bar so i can mount it in the open dialogue ( used to use the favourites).
Apart from that I think is a pretty solid effort
Originally posted by Tuttle
Finder:
I wish there was an up button in addition to the forward and back buttons.
Cmd-up arrow.
Safari:
Crashes. Not all the time but given enough time it will invariably crash.
Well that's kinda true of *all* software, sadly...
Mail:
I don't know if it is a mail server or Mail app problem, but I get the authentication failed dialog box multiple times a day. I really wish there was an option to always assume the login/password for email accounts is valid so I don't ever have to retype my password ever again.
Check the 'Remember my password' box in that dialog box. It will store the password in your default Keychain, and use it from them on. (Keychain is an encrypted database so saving your password in there is safe.)
Originally posted by Kickaha
Check the 'Remember my password' box in that dialog box. It will store the password in your default Keychain, and use it from them on. (Keychain is an encrypted database so saving your password in there is safe.)
If his problem is the same problem I've seen (in OS X generally) that's not going to help, because it's already checked.
If it's set to automatically check for mail, every so often there will be a glitch of some sort, the password will be refused, and Mail will ask for another one - even though the correct password is stored in Mail. It's easy to confirm, because if you enter the correct password into the dialog it'll still fail. It's a wierd hiccup. I think Tuttle would prefer less obtrusive behavior and a bit more intelligence on Mail's part ("gee, this password worked five minutes ago...").
I also have a similar complaint where, upon wake from sleep, Mail will spam me with "Could not connect" dialogs all stacked on top of each other, apparently because it takes my broadband router a second too long to reestablish access. A little grace period after wake from sleep would fix that.
Originally posted by Tuttle
I wish there was an up button in addition to the forward and back buttons.
Command-(up arrowkey) moves you into the parent directory.
Originally posted by mac's girl
Jimzip-- check your system log. looks like my problems under 10.3 are being caused by prebinding errors. everytime one of my apps crashed it said "could not be launched prebound." now, if i only knew what that meant and how to fix it... (reinstalling doesnt help.)
geek method (may require enabling root to perform fixes):
OS X will give you the following regarding prebinding from the Terminal window by typing:
man update_prebinding
update_prebinding tries to synchronize prebinding information for libraries and executables when new files are added to a system. Prebinding information is precalculated address information for libraries used by a given executable or library. By predetermining where a function in another library is destined to be placed, the dynamic linker does not have to resolve symbols at application startup time, and the application can launch faster.
Because each recompilation of a library or executable may place functions at different addresses, a newly installed library or executable's prebinding information might not match the libraries already on the disk. When the dynamic linker determines that prebinding information
update_prebinding ensures that prebinding information is up-to-date after new prebound applications or new versions of system libraries are installed. Given a list of the newly installed files in a package, up date_prebinding finds all the libraries and executables that may dynamically load the changed files. If so, the prebinding information must be updated, and update_prebinding performs redo_prebinding to update that file. update_prebinding builds a dependency graph to minimize the files that must be updated, and applies a few other heuristics to only call redo_prebinding when necessary.
Please Note: Root and terminal are not for newbies... easy to bork your system with improper wildcard use
if you want fix it tips with root access, search for a post by ZO with "prebinding" in the text. blame him. :P
not-so-geek method (updated with Panther support this week):
Maintain1 5.5 (via VersionTracker)
maintain1 is a GUI to run terminal scripts mainly for people who forget shell commands, don't like to type or if you just don't know any commands. This application allows you to click a button or a drop down menu item, and this will open the terminal application and run the associated script, buttons buttons update_prebind, Findtext view ascii tables, monitor system top command, FTP log system profile, netinfo log Apache error log Apache access log System log, whats running list all ports, info for a port current connections, ppp log Daily, weekly Monthy, all three back to back.view all open files button, ppp0, en0, en1, and en2 buttons to force delete a file and a button to force delete the trash, rebuild desktop script, netspeedup, renice, Disk usage, Kill anything button, cups logs, lpr logs, enable journal file system, repair premissions... remote running of any of these commands, screen capture.
What's New:
Version 5.5:
Added a script to enable the Exposé floater
Added script to start or stop these services: {smtp, fax-receive, auth, chargen, chargen-udp, comsat, daytime, daytime-udp, echo, echo-udp, eppc, exec, finger, ftp, login, nmbd, ntalk, printer, shell, smb-direct, smbd, ssh, swat, telnet, tftp, time, time-udp}
minor changes to interface
Requirements:
Mac OS X 10.2 or later.
hope it helps... will be testing myself later this week post Panther install
Originally posted by Amorph
If his problem is the same problem I've seen (in OS X generally) that's not going to help, because it's already checked.
Yes, exactly.
I used to get the same problem with Eudora on my old windows 2000 machine. So I assume it is the mail server returning an authentication failure and not a problem with Mail.
If his problem is the same problem I've seen (in OS X generally) that's not going to help, because it's already checked.
If it's set to automatically check for mail, every so often there will be a glitch of some sort, the password will be refused, and Mail will ask for another one - even though the correct password is stored in Mail. It's easy to confirm, because if you enter the correct password into the dialog it'll still fail. It's a wierd hiccup. I think Tuttle would prefer less obtrusive behavior and a bit more intelligence on Mail's part ("gee, this password worked five minutes ago...").
I get this frequently during the day. End up clicking on the cancel button and then hiding mail. Annoying.
Back in Panther, I could log in, which would both wake up from the screen saver AND log me in...
Open up a finder window in list view with only a few items in it. Make sure the window is not full.
Now in Jaguar, I could click in the open white space below the list and drag to select as many items as I want. Easy, right?
In Panther, I can't select items in list view without clicking on the line of one of the items. You can't click below the last item and drag up. What upsets me the most is that this DOES work in column view!! Click below and drag right up. Sucky.
Hope this wasn't too confusing. Anyone else bothered by this??
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RosettaStoned
Yeah, I see what you are talking about. Strange. Very un-Apple.
There should be a rubber band box, or whatever it's called these days.
Originally posted by kcmac
by Amorph
I get this frequently during the day. End up clicking on the cancel button and then hiding mail. Annoying.
I have had this problem since way back in Jaguar days,,,,,way back