we guarantee that we will refund the complete price of this manual if you are unable to achieve a number one single in the official (gallup) u.k. charts within three months of the purchase of this manual
I am going to try to get to the Tysons store on the 16th, pick up iLife "'04," then boogie the night awaaaayyy! Don't take my copy! I worked hard to pay for my future. I have a nice MIDI Keyboard, a 1x1 Midiman USB converter. This is finally my chance to be the big star known as "The Notion"
I've been wanting to learn guitar forever and now I feel like I have the motivation. I've signed up for lessons now, and after a while maybe I'll buy a cable to use with GB. I'm not jumping the gun on this, I'll use iLife for my other digital activities but until I can get at least a year or so of guitar under my belt, im not gonna make a fool of myself. This should be a fun little hobby, worth spending the money on a cable for my guitar that i've hardly used.
I've been wanting to learn guitar forever and now I feel like I have the motivation. I've signed up for lessons now, and after a while maybe I'll buy a cable to use with GB. I'm not jumping the gun on this, I'll use iLife for my other digital activities but until I can get at least a year or so of guitar under my belt, im not gonna make a fool of myself. This should be a fun little hobby, worth spending the money on a cable for my guitar that i've hardly used.
Actually now would be the best time to pick up that cord. Listening to recordings of yourself lets you listen to your playing from a 3rd person perspective. I've found this to be invaluable in my learning the bass.
In case any of you folks are close to a Guitar Center, they have recently become authorized Apple Dealers...make it one trip for iLife 04 and musical accessories!
i can't believe that every new Mac will now have garageband already on it! just bring some tracks and loops on my iPod and i can play at school/Apple Store/friends place/library,etc...crazy
I don't want to start a new topic but I was curious to know how people plan on using GB. There are discussions all over the net and excitement like I have not seen in the Mac community. In the beginning, people expressed some unrealistic expectations about the software. As more knowledge and guesses were shared, people started to realize that what they planned to do with it was not really possible, or questionable at best. When you realize the G3 limitation, there are going to be even more rude awakenings. Still, It should be a solid, entry level audio sequencer. I am still not convinced that all 64 tracks are audio capable. 64 tracks could mean 48 midi and 16 audio as it does with a lot of programs. No big deal but just something to consider. I am a bit concerned that there is no exhaustive PDF yielding the details of the program. All we have is Apple marketing material on this one and that is not very trustworthy IMO. Still, being one of those limited G3 users, GB should still be more than adequate for my multi-track acapella vocal work that I once enjoyed doing. I wish I did not have to hook up my big pre-amp for phantom power. Oh well. Anyway, that will be my main use. I will still have to use my windows based Band in a Box for song creation. Perhaps I can import those tracks to GB. Not too sure about that. Then I can lay audio/vocals on top of that. Since I cannot use midi instruments, does that mean I cannot use the loops to create the occasion drum track? Anyway, how do you play to use GB when it finally arrives?
As I stated upthread, I'm planning on using it and a MIDI keyboard to relearn music theory, and get some songwriting chops - right now, I hear song ideas but I have no way to express or develop them, and that's frustrating.
I'm not really hung up on the fact that it's not Logic for $30. One stereo or two mono tracks at a time? Fine. There's only one of me. Limited effects choices and 16-bit/44.1k recording quality? I don't care. I'm not preparing my major label debut. Requires a G4? I've got one. I just want something that makes it easy for me to record tracks, whether they're exercizes or song ideas, maybe play with looped accompaniment a bit, and maybe play them for friends. GB seems to be made for that, so I'm there.
It just occurred to me that I could use the metronome and some looping to practice playing drums to a click track, as well.
I don't want to start a new topic but I was curious to know how people plan on using GB.
iMic, $3 adapter, guitar, bass. That and GarageBand's drum loops and stuff means I can work on rough drafts of songs to take to band practice. This way band practice involves less misunderstandings (and those temper tantrums that musicians are known for...)
I plan on using it for drum tracks (and other accompanyment) for me & my bass. The Mrs. plays keyboards so if we can get 2 inputs at the same time then we can jam together and record our music.
I'm really hoping GB can do this. I've got Edirol's USB MIDI interface and I plan on using the analog audio in to get my bass in there as well. Hopefully I can use both interfaces at the same time or I'll need to pick up a USB audio/MIDI device to get multiple inputs.
I'm also hoping that people here and in other forums use GB to collaborate on music together. I'd think that'd be totally cool to try out.
Originally posted by Mac Voyer I don't want to start a new topic but I was curious to know how people plan on using GB.
Well, there's still so much I don't know about it and its capabilities, but I'll just say what I HOPE to do with it (as well as the stuff I know I'll be able to do):
1. Regain (and gain) keyboard chops. I find being a better keyboardist makes me a better guitarist. And vice versa. They seem to help each other, I've discovered. Dexterity and stretching, sure. But I'm also talking about just how I THINK about music: chords, passages, playing an unusual, unexpected note against a particular chord, etc. Plus, chicks dig it when you can sit down at a piano somewhere and lay a little Billy Joel on 'em.
2. To flesh out (and play Phil Spector/Lindsey Buckingham) on the vocal/acoustic recordings of my best friend, who writes amazing songs in the Shawn Colvin/Lucinda Williams/Mary-Chapin Carpenter/Roseanne Cash vein. For years now, every time she plays me one, in my head I hear instruments and accents and colors and stuff. Now I'll be able to make those happen!
3. Practice. Lay down some drum, bass and keyboard or horn loops and just play over them, like Mayer did during that onstage demo. The convenience of a backup band, minus the egos, smell, scheduling conflicts, attitudes, etc.
4. Loops, loops and loops. I REALLY have come to love that dreamy, atmospheric instrumental stuff. Makes me sleepy, makes me horny, makes me just feel good. I'd like to do some really cool-sounding stuff for my own jollies and fun. I've got this neat melody in my head I've toted around for a LONG time, and I'm just dying to play it with that bagpipe instrument sample, over some funky, laidback Enigma-esque beats and choir "oohs".
5. My own songs. Demos. Me on acoustic and vocals, then layer stuff on. Played in real time with the keyboard, another guitar, splice together beats and whatnot, etc.
6. Just to learn something new and fresh and exciting. Learn some new words, new lingo. Immerse myself into something I don't know much about (digital music).
7. Reignite my passion and excitement about music: playing, writing, performing. It's all I did from age 15 to 24. Then I discovered the Mac and Adobe Illustrator and that I could make a living doing that. Music took a decade-long backseat. I hope to reclaim some of that.
This is funny because when I bought my first Mac (a Performa, but I had been using my parents' Mac plus an SE), it when I was learning the bass. I wanted to be able to record myself, load up a drum track, play around, etc. Maybe even record and mix some songs for my college band. I was able to record myself, but the options for further creative endeavors required a massive investment in software and hardware. I was disappointed, but moved on. The band broke up. I stopped playing the bass and my wife stopped playing guiter...
I'm getting it delivered on the 16th (edu pricing, one of the last perks of being a teacher...). If it is as fun as I expect it to be, I'll order Jam Pack the next day. Although I haven't played the piano since I was in 5th-grade, I'm also considering getting a keyboard.
Which is pretty amazing if you think about it. Before GB was announced, my bass was probably doomed to sitting in the corner of my office for the rest of its natural life. Now, I'll be picking it up again. And I'm giddy about the prospect of spending upwards of $200.
As for how I plan to use it. Well, that depends on its capabilities. Mostly just messing around at first. And that might be all. But as I was stuck in traffic this morning, I started thinking about using it in class to mix beats for performances and freestyle challenges (I'm a Language Arts teacher, and we do a lot of poetry/song/rap performance).
Allowing my students to program their own beats (if they wanted) would no doubt take slightly more time, but I'm sure they'd get into it even more than they already are. And my coolness factor would no doubt skyrocket (which sounds petty, but actually helps in classroom management).
Lastly, one of the things I like doing is laying movie/TV quotes over music. Fun stuff. Usually, I just steal some of the random trance crap out there. But lately, I've been wanting to mix my own songs and been wondering how to get started. I wonder if GB can handle imported wavs/aifs... Hmmm...even if it can, I'll probably still export to Stone and add the clips there.
But the headline was Apple's move into the music creation space, via the company's new GarageBand sequencer and recorder add-in to its iLife software bundle.
Just as last year's intro of Final Cut Pro Express was a warning shot across Adobe Systems' Premiere Pro's bow, GarageBand must send shivers down the spines of DigiDesign ProTools' developers. Even if Apple stays in the so-called consumer space with GarageBand, ProTools' IT priesthood and we-come-and-install service requirements are sure to dissipate over time.
CONFIRMED!!!11! ProTools for $50! What are you waiting for?!
Loops, loops and loops. I REALLY have come to love that dreamy, atmospheric instrumental stuff. Makes me sleepy, makes me horny, makes me just feel good.
Well now we all know how to bed pscates. "Hey baby, let me put on some GarageBand." "Ohhh, how romantic."
I'd like to use it mainly to practice improvising jazz, which I find I can never practice enough. I'd like to be able to put in, probably on piano, a set of changes, and then put drums and bass if you can do it with garageband pre-made loops. I'd like to get a collection of a bunch of them, maybe a couple of jazz blues, minor blues, I got rhythm, all the things you are, How high the moon, other commonly used changes. Maybe even post them somewhere for others if they don't sound too awful. I'd assume you'd be able to transpose to different keys too.
I'm hoping it helps school music programs. Because it's so cheap (or free), kids could easily start taking songs they've heard on the radio and arranging them within GarageBand. I know I would've loved such a tool when I was in high school, instead of just MIDI sequencing.
For me, since I no longer am in a band, it allows me to write and practice anytime and virtually anywhere I want, without the typical flakiness band members often bring to the table.
I have my USB audio interface and a nice set of mics with a stand and pop screen just begging to get used. My guitars are crying out for more TLC. Thankfully, soon they'll all get the chance.
I bet before long, Apple will sell additional loops OR instrumental backing tracks on the iTMS to practice/jam with. In different genres, keys, styles, etc. (blues, jazz, rock, country, etc.)
GarageBand will be, as many have said here, a grandslam for Apple in '04. I have already pre-ordered it, along Final Cut Express 2 upgrade. I watched the keynote live via satellite and I must say I was duly impressed with its features and ease of use. I would have gladly paid over $100 for Garage Band alone, but getting it bundled with iLife '04 for $49 and free with every new Mac is just insane! This brilliant piece of software should start a domino effect among switchers too; more on this in a couple of weeks...
I have an old Korg i3 Music Workstation full size midi keyboard that I have rarely played during the past few years. Time to dust it off and get it running again. I will just need to get a midi/usb box for it.
This thing will be HUGE. No piece of software on any platform has ever provided this level of music creation experience, for novices or pros. Some of you may remember PG Music's Band in a Box? (late 80's early 90's). It was really cool at the time but, as with several apps that were born on the Mac, they went Wintel only a few years ago, thus losing my support. Biab? still gets updated from time to time for the Mac side, but won't run well under OS X. Well, GB trumps it big time, along most other apps with similar features.
John Mayer seemed really excited while playing/recording his guitar with GB on stage, even more so while listening to his very own creation afterwards. This should send ripples across musicians out there, both aspiring and consummates alike. And, while this is no Digital Performer, Protools, Logic, etc..., almost no Mac user will be able to resist its $49 price, not to mention the great set of iLife tools most of us already use on a daily basis. Those still clinging to OS 9, will have yet another reason to upgrade to OS X.
GB's integration with iLife should boost it way beyond whatever the MS camp brings in the coming months. Apple is poising itself as the front runner in the digital life age and I am sure a lot of non-believers and die hard windows users will finally notice it this time around.
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we guarantee that we will refund the complete price of this manual if you are unable to achieve a number one single in the official (gallup) u.k. charts within three months of the purchase of this manual
The manual is the best music book I've ever read!
I am going to try to get to the Tysons store on the 16th, pick up iLife "'04," then boogie the night awaaaayyy! Don't take my copy! I worked hard to pay for my future. I have a nice MIDI Keyboard, a 1x1 Midiman USB converter. This is finally my chance to be the big star known as "The Notion"
"That moon money is mine!"
Originally posted by Messiahtosh
I've been wanting to learn guitar forever and now I feel like I have the motivation. I've signed up for lessons now, and after a while maybe I'll buy a cable to use with GB. I'm not jumping the gun on this, I'll use iLife for my other digital activities but until I can get at least a year or so of guitar under my belt, im not gonna make a fool of myself. This should be a fun little hobby, worth spending the money on a cable for my guitar that i've hardly used.
Actually now would be the best time to pick up that cord. Listening to recordings of yourself lets you listen to your playing from a 3rd person perspective. I've found this to be invaluable in my learning the bass.
i can't believe that every new Mac will now have garageband already on it! just bring some tracks and loops on my iPod and i can play at school/Apple Store/friends place/library,etc...crazy
I'm not really hung up on the fact that it's not Logic for $30. One stereo or two mono tracks at a time? Fine. There's only one of me. Limited effects choices and 16-bit/44.1k recording quality? I don't care. I'm not preparing my major label debut. Requires a G4? I've got one. I just want something that makes it easy for me to record tracks, whether they're exercizes or song ideas, maybe play with looped accompaniment a bit, and maybe play them for friends. GB seems to be made for that, so I'm there.
It just occurred to me that I could use the metronome and some looping to practice playing drums to a click track, as well.
Originally posted by Mac Voyer
I don't want to start a new topic but I was curious to know how people plan on using GB.
iMic, $3 adapter, guitar, bass. That and GarageBand's drum loops and stuff means I can work on rough drafts of songs to take to band practice. This way band practice involves less misunderstandings (and those temper tantrums that musicians are known for...)
I'm really hoping GB can do this. I've got Edirol's USB MIDI interface and I plan on using the analog audio in to get my bass in there as well. Hopefully I can use both interfaces at the same time or I'll need to pick up a USB audio/MIDI device to get multiple inputs.
I'm also hoping that people here and in other forums use GB to collaborate on music together. I'd think that'd be totally cool to try out.
Originally posted by Mac Voyer I don't want to start a new topic but I was curious to know how people plan on using GB.
Well, there's still so much I don't know about it and its capabilities, but I'll just say what I HOPE to do with it (as well as the stuff I know I'll be able to do):
1. Regain (and gain) keyboard chops. I find being a better keyboardist makes me a better guitarist. And vice versa. They seem to help each other, I've discovered. Dexterity and stretching, sure. But I'm also talking about just how I THINK about music: chords, passages, playing an unusual, unexpected note against a particular chord, etc. Plus, chicks dig it when you can sit down at a piano somewhere and lay a little Billy Joel on 'em.
2. To flesh out (and play Phil Spector/Lindsey Buckingham) on the vocal/acoustic recordings of my best friend, who writes amazing songs in the Shawn Colvin/Lucinda Williams/Mary-Chapin Carpenter/Roseanne Cash vein. For years now, every time she plays me one, in my head I hear instruments and accents and colors and stuff. Now I'll be able to make those happen!
3. Practice. Lay down some drum, bass and keyboard or horn loops and just play over them, like Mayer did during that onstage demo. The convenience of a backup band, minus the egos, smell, scheduling conflicts, attitudes, etc.
4. Loops, loops and loops. I REALLY have come to love that dreamy, atmospheric instrumental stuff. Makes me sleepy, makes me horny, makes me just feel good. I'd like to do some really cool-sounding stuff for my own jollies and fun. I've got this neat melody in my head I've toted around for a LONG time, and I'm just dying to play it with that bagpipe instrument sample, over some funky, laidback Enigma-esque beats and choir "oohs".
5. My own songs. Demos. Me on acoustic and vocals, then layer stuff on. Played in real time with the keyboard, another guitar, splice together beats and whatnot, etc.
6. Just to learn something new and fresh and exciting. Learn some new words, new lingo. Immerse myself into something I don't know much about (digital music).
7. Reignite my passion and excitement about music: playing, writing, performing. It's all I did from age 15 to 24. Then I discovered the Mac and Adobe Illustrator and that I could make a living doing that. Music took a decade-long backseat. I hope to reclaim some of that.
I'm getting it delivered on the 16th (edu pricing, one of the last perks of being a teacher...). If it is as fun as I expect it to be, I'll order Jam Pack the next day. Although I haven't played the piano since I was in 5th-grade, I'm also considering getting a keyboard.
Which is pretty amazing if you think about it. Before GB was announced, my bass was probably doomed to sitting in the corner of my office for the rest of its natural life. Now, I'll be picking it up again. And I'm giddy about the prospect of spending upwards of $200.
As for how I plan to use it. Well, that depends on its capabilities. Mostly just messing around at first. And that might be all. But as I was stuck in traffic this morning, I started thinking about using it in class to mix beats for performances and freestyle challenges (I'm a Language Arts teacher, and we do a lot of poetry/song/rap performance).
Allowing my students to program their own beats (if they wanted) would no doubt take slightly more time, but I'm sure they'd get into it even more than they already are. And my coolness factor would no doubt skyrocket
Lastly, one of the things I like doing is laying movie/TV quotes over music. Fun stuff. Usually, I just steal some of the random trance crap out there. But lately, I've been wanting to mix my own songs and been wondering how to get started. I wonder if GB can handle imported wavs/aifs... Hmmm...even if it can, I'll probably still export to Stone and add the clips there.
Anyway, I'm very excited.
-DCQ
But the headline was Apple's move into the music creation space, via the company's new GarageBand sequencer and recorder add-in to its iLife software bundle.
Just as last year's intro of Final Cut Pro Express was a warning shot across Adobe Systems' Premiere Pro's bow, GarageBand must send shivers down the spines of DigiDesign ProTools' developers. Even if Apple stays in the so-called consumer space with GarageBand, ProTools' IT priesthood and we-come-and-install service requirements are sure to dissipate over time.
CONFIRMED!!!11! ProTools for $50! What are you waiting for?!
Maybe someone should tell him about Logic?
Originally posted by pscates
Loops, loops and loops. I REALLY have come to love that dreamy, atmospheric instrumental stuff. Makes me sleepy, makes me horny, makes me just feel good.
Well now we all know how to bed pscates. "Hey baby, let me put on some GarageBand." "Ohhh, how romantic."
I'd like to use it mainly to practice improvising jazz, which I find I can never practice enough. I'd like to be able to put in, probably on piano, a set of changes, and then put drums and bass if you can do it with garageband pre-made loops. I'd like to get a collection of a bunch of them, maybe a couple of jazz blues, minor blues, I got rhythm, all the things you are, How high the moon, other commonly used changes. Maybe even post them somewhere for others if they don't sound too awful. I'd assume you'd be able to transpose to different keys too.
For me, since I no longer am in a band, it allows me to write and practice anytime and virtually anywhere I want, without the typical flakiness band members often bring to the table.
I have my USB audio interface and a nice set of mics with a stand and pop screen just begging to get used. My guitars are crying out for more TLC. Thankfully, soon they'll all get the chance.
And if they don't...well, they SHOULD.
Just a thought...
Thanks Apple & my lovely wife too (I left some pretty strong hints).
Originally posted by Bulky Cranium
The 16th is my Birthday!!!!
Thanks Apple & my lovely wife too (I left some pretty strong hints).
"Honey, I will not bathe until I have it in my hands."
I have an old Korg i3 Music Workstation full size midi keyboard that I have rarely played during the past few years. Time to dust it off and get it running again. I will just need to get a midi/usb box for it.
This thing will be HUGE. No piece of software on any platform has ever provided this level of music creation experience, for novices or pros. Some of you may remember PG Music's Band in a Box? (late 80's early 90's). It was really cool at the time but, as with several apps that were born on the Mac, they went Wintel only a few years ago, thus losing my support. Biab? still gets updated from time to time for the Mac side, but won't run well under OS X. Well, GB trumps it big time, along most other apps with similar features.
John Mayer seemed really excited while playing/recording his guitar with GB on stage, even more so while listening to his very own creation afterwards. This should send ripples across musicians out there, both aspiring and consummates alike. And, while this is no Digital Performer, Protools, Logic, etc..., almost no Mac user will be able to resist its $49 price, not to mention the great set of iLife tools most of us already use on a daily basis. Those still clinging to OS 9, will have yet another reason to upgrade to OS X.
GB's integration with iLife should boost it way beyond whatever the MS camp brings in the coming months. Apple is poising itself as the front runner in the digital life age and I am sure a lot of non-believers and die hard windows users will finally notice it this time around.
Congratulations to Apple for a job well done.