BTW, Clark isn't 'pro-war' as you put it. He has an exit strategy for Iraq planned and we know he has the military experience to handle the situation. He also knows how to bring coalitions together and will strengthen the world fight on terrorism with co-operation instead of the current tactics of alienating our own allies. Of course, Dean has been labeling Clark as 'pro-war' and as a 'Republican' and it appears many people are buying into the rhetoric.
There's no way i'm voting for any Democrat other than Dean or Kucinich. Clark is a typical establishment politician. His campaign isn't about change in enpowering people like Dean's. Clark's average campaign contribution is significantly higher than Dean's and has significantly fewer volunteers. Democratics like Clark have no chance against Bush.
Dean strikes me as the emotional knee-jerk candidate. He's loud, brash, gives *great* rhetoric that whips up the masses, but other than that, I haven't seen much substance. But oh *boy* can he get people going. He'd be a great Southern Baptist preacher.
Clark on the other hand seems like a much more rational, methodical candidate. He'd be a great professor.
You know I'd almost like to see a Hilary Presidency just to watch all the right wingers heads simultaneously explode.
Interestingly, this one posts really symbolizes modern day politics and the people who partake in it.
People no longer vote on their principles, nor do politicians run on theirs. It's all about beating the other side, and doing so in a painful way. It's beyond pathetic.
Mainly, I would say, it's because of lies and mud-slinging.
I remember hearing she had said "I'm bored" to Bill at Arlington Cemetery during some ceremony... not true.
I remember hearing she had taken Al Gore's office in the white house because she wanted to butt into policy... not true.
It's a case of enough people saying something it just becomes fact. So to many she's a domineering, castrating bitch who wants to kill babies and eat puppies. The evidence is an overwhelming and unproven prejudice.
The only offensive thing I have ever seen from Hillary is her yawning and eye-rolling during Bush's post-9/11 speech.
I would say the wide hatred of Hillary links to a conservative white male fear of a powerful and independent woman associated with a President who thoroughly outclassed them at their own game.
I would say the wide hatred of Hillary links to a conservative white male fear of a powerful and independent woman associated with a President who thoroughly outclassed them at their own game.
Damn. I was right there with you until this point. This may very well be your opinion, but it's no doubt a gross oversimplification of things.
Damn. Mosley-Brown just threw her hat in the ring for Dean. I really really like her and had hoped she would have supported Clark.
I will miss her in the campaign Now that the internal attacks (esp. from Liberman and the other middle candidates against Dean) have started she would have been a good "school teacher" to keep the boys on track...
Damn. Mosley-Brown just threw her hat in the ring for Dean. I really really like her and had hoped she would have supported Clark.
I will miss her in the campaign Now that the internal attacks (esp. from Liberman and the other middle candidates against Dean) have started she would have been a good "school teacher" to keep the boys on track...
Dean's been nice to her and she's been nice to Dean for a while. Look at these images from November...
The only thing I don't like about Hilllary CLinton is that she comes off as very very insincere in interviews and news clips. Nothing against her politics, she just comes off kinds sleazy, like a used car salesman. Take that with a grian of salt of course, that's just my impression and a personal judgement on my part.
The only thing I don't like about Hilllary CLinton is that she comes off as very very insincere in interviews and news clips. Nothing against her politics, she just comes off kinds sleazy, like a used car salesman. Take that with a grian of salt of course, that's just my impression and a personal judgement on my part.
You mean that she lack of charisma, unlike her husband ?
Yeah, basically, she tries too hard to pretend she has it, and it backfires for her. Again, nothing against her politics per se, just that she doesn't have to come across as a phoney. Play it straight, Hillary!
Is the margin of error 4? Because that margin of error is for each score, so really there's a 95% chance that the "real" number is between 25 and 34 for Dean, and a 95% chance the real number is between 20 and 28 for Clark. So why don't you just call it Clark = 28, Dean = 25.
Yeah, basically, she tries too hard to pretend she has it, and it backfires for her. Again, nothing against her politics per se, just that she doesn't have to come across as a phoney. Play it straight, Hillary!
What doesn't she *have* that she so deceptively tries to "fake?" \
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People hate that woman way too much.
Originally posted by Fran441
BTW, Clark isn't 'pro-war' as you put it. He has an exit strategy for Iraq planned and we know he has the military experience to handle the situation. He also knows how to bring coalitions together and will strengthen the world fight on terrorism with co-operation instead of the current tactics of alienating our own allies. Of course, Dean has been labeling Clark as 'pro-war' and as a 'Republican' and it appears many people are buying into the rhetoric.
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Looks like you've been dooped from the start.
There's no way i'm voting for any Democrat other than Dean or Kucinich. Clark is a typical establishment politician. His campaign isn't about change in enpowering people like Dean's. Clark's average campaign contribution is significantly higher than Dean's and has significantly fewer volunteers. Democratics like Clark have no chance against Bush.
Clark on the other hand seems like a much more rational, methodical candidate. He'd be a great professor.
I know which one of the two I prefer.
*shrug*
Originally posted by trick fall
You know I'd almost like to see a Hilary Presidency just to watch all the right wingers heads simultaneously explode.
You mean like all the left wingers heads are doing right now with Bush?
Originally posted by groverat
I would vote for Hillary for the reason trick fall explains.
People hate that woman way too much.
Why do people hate here so much ?
Originally posted by trick fall
You know I'd almost like to see a Hilary Presidency just to watch all the right wingers heads simultaneously explode.
Interestingly, this one posts really symbolizes modern day politics and the people who partake in it.
People no longer vote on their principles, nor do politicians run on theirs. It's all about beating the other side, and doing so in a painful way. It's beyond pathetic.
Why do people hate here so much ?
It's an interesting question.
Mainly, I would say, it's because of lies and mud-slinging.
I remember hearing she had said "I'm bored" to Bill at Arlington Cemetery during some ceremony... not true.
I remember hearing she had taken Al Gore's office in the white house because she wanted to butt into policy... not true.
It's a case of enough people saying something it just becomes fact. So to many she's a domineering, castrating bitch who wants to kill babies and eat puppies. The evidence is an overwhelming and unproven prejudice.
The only offensive thing I have ever seen from Hillary is her yawning and eye-rolling during Bush's post-9/11 speech.
I would say the wide hatred of Hillary links to a conservative white male fear of a powerful and independent woman associated with a President who thoroughly outclassed them at their own game.
Originally posted by groverat
I would say the wide hatred of Hillary links to a conservative white male fear of a powerful and independent woman associated with a President who thoroughly outclassed them at their own game.
Damn. I was right there with you until this point. This may very well be your opinion, but it's no doubt a gross oversimplification of things.
- she was blond
- she was brillant
- she seems to have personal ambition
but there is also others women like Condolea rice :
- who are brillant, cute and have personal ambition
So i am confused.
I will miss her in the campaign
Originally posted by Anders
Damn. Mosley-Brown just threw her hat in the ring for Dean. I really really like her and had hoped she would have supported Clark.
I will miss her in the campaign
Dean's been nice to her and she's been nice to Dean for a while. Look at these images from November...
Originally posted by BuonRotto
The only thing I don't like about Hilllary CLinton is that she comes off as very very insincere in interviews and news clips. Nothing against her politics, she just comes off kinds sleazy, like a used car salesman. Take that with a grian of salt of course, that's just my impression and a personal judgement on my part.
You mean that she lack of charisma, unlike her husband ?
Originally posted by Existence
Dean's been nice to her and she's been nice to Dean for a while. Look at these images from November...
Easy. She wasn´t a threath for him and she is a friendly person.
Originally posted by Fran441
Today's ARG poll for NH shows:
Dean 29
Clark 24
One point away from the margin of error.
Is the margin of error 4? Because that margin of error is for each score, so really there's a 95% chance that the "real" number is between 25 and 34 for Dean, and a 95% chance the real number is between 20 and 28 for Clark. So why don't you just call it Clark = 28, Dean = 25.
Originally posted by BuonRotto
Yeah, basically, she tries too hard to pretend she has it, and it backfires for her. Again, nothing against her politics per se, just that she doesn't have to come across as a phoney. Play it straight, Hillary!
What doesn't she *have* that she so deceptively tries to "fake?"
What doesn't she *have* that she so deceptively tries to "fake?"
a personality.