Michael Moore - Fahrenheit 9/11 (general discussion - merged)

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  • Reply 221 of 405
    sammi josammi jo Posts: 4,634member
    I just came back from watching Fahrenheit 911 (2000 seat theater packed to the gills for all 3 showings today). It was good....but as I suspected, he wimped out and left out the really bizarre and grotesque stuff about 9-11, the literally hundreds upon hundreds of well-documented anomalies and inconsistencies that make the official version of the day of 9-11 sound like some wild-eyed conspiracy theory/fairy story of the unlikeliest kind. But unfortunately, nobody mainstream dares venture there, yet.



    and btw, Cheney's energy panel discussions, and top secret side meetings will remain secret.



  • Reply 222 of 405
    common mancommon man Posts: 522member
    A group of us from Church will attend several showings this week and do our best to loudly point out the lies in this communist propaganda. If you see this trash film in the Sugarland Texas area , you might see us. Here in Bush country, we might get a ton of people in the theaters to spontaneously join in with us.



    God Bless our President

    God Bless the troops

    God Bless America



    http://www.chronicallybiased.com/index.php?itemid=598



    http://www.chronicallybiased.com/index.php?itemid=593
  • Reply 223 of 405
    bungebunge Posts: 7,329member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Common Man

    A group of us from Church will attend several showings this week and do our best to loudly point out the lies in this communist propaganda. If you see this trash film in the Sugarland Texas area , you might see us. Here in Bush country, we might get a ton of people in the theaters to spontaneously join in with us.



    Give him more money! Give him more money! Give him more money!



    Ticket sales on a film like this are self-perpetuating. The more people that go early, the more will show up later.



    How about this: point out some of the lies here so we can all discuss them. You'll do a better job of converting in this setting.
  • Reply 224 of 405
    trumptmantrumptman Posts: 16,464member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by bunge

    Give him more money! Give him more money! Give him more money!



    Ticket sales on a film like this are self-perpetuating. The more people that go early, the more will show up later.



    How about this: point out some of the lies here so we can all discuss them. You'll do a better job of converting in this setting.




    If you read the links, it was suggested that you buy a ticket to a different movie and then walk into the Moore movie so he doesn't get the money.



    Read the links...



    Nick
  • Reply 225 of 405
    bungebunge Posts: 7,329member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by trumptman

    If you read the links, it was suggested that you buy a ticket to a different movie and then walk into the Moore movie so he doesn't get the money.



    Read the links...



    Nick




    Why do you lie when others can click through and read for themselves?



    Quote:

    I am clearly not endorsing or suggesting any such action.



  • Reply 226 of 405
    shawnjshawnj Posts: 6,656member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Common Man

    A group of us from Church will attend several showings this week and do our best to loudly point out the lies in this communist propaganda.



    Tee-hee-hee! You're talking about Battleship Potemkin, right?
  • Reply 227 of 405
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    I sincerely hope conservatives around the country show how childish and ignorant they are by disrupting showings of Fahrenheit 9/11.



    I mean, the Veep is already leading the charge in acting like an immature prick when someone says something you don't like.



    It is like a group of 9-year-olds attempting a fascist coup.
  • Reply 228 of 405
    trumptmantrumptman Posts: 16,464member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by bunge

    Why do you lie when others can click through and read for themselves?



    What lie? I didn't claim the author suggested it.



    Read for yourself lying liar.



    Quote:

    Bill O'Reilly suggested that some people might actually buy a ticket for another movie and then change their mind and see the Moore movie instead once inside. That way Moore doesn't get the money.



    Nick
  • Reply 229 of 405
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    O'Reilly is suggesting that citizens defraud a corporation?
  • Reply 230 of 405
    trumptmantrumptman Posts: 16,464member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by groverat

    O'Reilly is suggesting that citizens defraud a corporation?



    O'Reilly can suggest whatever he wants. I don't endorse him, watch him or listen to him. The point was that bunge was mentioning that in order to childishly disrupt the Moore movie, they would have to buy a ticket and hence really help Moore. I simply pointed out that in the context of the article that wasn't necessarily true.



    Nick
  • Reply 231 of 405
    sammi josammi jo Posts: 4,634member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Common Man

    A group of us from Church will attend several showings this week and do our best to loudly point out the lies in this communist propaganda. If you see this trash film in the Sugarland Texas area , you might see us. Here in Bush country, we might get a ton of people in the theaters to spontaneously join in with us.



    God Bless our President

    God Bless the troops

    God Bless America



    http://www.chronicallybiased.com/index.php?itemid=598



    http://www.chronicallybiased.com/index.php?itemid=593








    Post of the Year!!!



    Thankyou Common Man for the best bellylaugh I've had for awhile. I just spilt my coffee!!!



    Communist!!!!











  • Reply 232 of 405
    bungebunge Posts: 7,329member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by trumptman

    I simply pointed out that in the context of the article that wasn't necessarily true.



    Wrong. You claimed that the links were encouraging people to buy tickets to a different movie and sneak in. You were wrong or lied, I don't care which.
  • Reply 233 of 405
    pfflampfflam Posts: 5,053member
    Boyoboy . . . Brooks sure lays into Moore in the Times.



    How does he do it?



    Mostly by quoting Moore . . .



    Sometimes I wish the guy would shut his trap . . . he doesn't need to say so much idiotic stuff . . . just make movies



    Its unfortunate because if I hadn't actually seen his movies I would take his statements at face value and they discredit him.
  • Reply 234 of 405
    common mancommon man Posts: 522member
    The media bias towards this movie is criminal! Moore should be prosecuted for treason. This type of film has no place, especially in times of war.



    http://www.chronicallybiased.com/index.php?itemid=600
  • Reply 235 of 405
    faust9faust9 Posts: 1,335member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Common Man

    The media bias towards this movie is criminal! Moore should be prosecuted for treason. This type of film has no place, especially in times of war.



    http://www.chronicallybiased.com/index.php?itemid=600




    Hey O'Brian you're pretty funny. The commies are our enimiers. The commies are not our enemies the terrorists are and always have been. The terrorists are not the enemy Saddam is and always has been.



    A couple of documents I really dig. You should look into them sometime.

    http://www.house.gov/Constitution/Constitution.html

    http://www.house.gov/Constitution/Amend.html

    http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/



    Article [I.]



    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.



    Cut the treason crap for god's sake.
  • Reply 236 of 405
    cooopcooop Posts: 390member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by faust9

    Hey O'Brian you're pretty funny. The commies are our enimiers. The commies are not our enemies the terrorists are and always have been. The terrorists are not the enemy Saddam is and always has been.



    A couple of documents I really dig. You should look into them sometime.

    http://www.house.gov/Constitution/Constitution.html

    http://www.house.gov/Constitution/Amend.html

    http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/



    Article [I.]



    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.



    Cut the treason crap for god's sake.




    Seriously Common Man. Get a grip on reality. Making an anti-Bush "documentary" is not akin to overthrowing the government. It is Michael Moore's Constitutional right to make the film and your Constitutional right to decry the film as liberal trash. But no one has the Constitutional right to jail someone simply for expressing his opinion, even if it conflicts with yours or the President's.



    If you suggest overthrowing or ignoring the Constitution and imprisoning Michael Moore... then perhaps you're the one committing treason.
  • Reply 237 of 405
    scottscott Posts: 7,431member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by pfflam

    Boyoboy . . . Brooks sure lays into Moore in the Times.



    How does he do it?



    Mostly by quoting Moore . . .



    Sometimes I wish the guy would shut his trap . . . he doesn't need to say so much idiotic stuff . . . just make movies



    Its unfortunate because if I hadn't actually seen his movies I would take his statements at face value and they discredit him.




    Great link. We have no doubt which side Moore is on.



    Quote:

    But venality doesn't come up when he writes about those who are killing Americans in Iraq: "The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not `insurgents' or `terrorists' or `The Enemy.' They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow ? and they will win." Until then, few social observers had made the connection between Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and Paul Revere.





    Intellectually bankrupt.
  • Reply 238 of 405
    neutrino23neutrino23 Posts: 1,561member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Common Man

    A group of us from Church will attend several showings this week and do our best to loudly point out the lies in this communist propaganda. If you see this trash film in the Sugarland Texas area , you might see us. Here in Bush country, we might get a ton of people in the theaters to spontaneously join in with us.



    God Bless our President

    God Bless the troops

    God Bless America



    http://www.chronicallybiased.com/index.php?itemid=598



    http://www.chronicallybiased.com/index.php?itemid=593




    Communist? Oh yeah? You Running Dog Imperialist! (Man how I miss the sixties!)



    Will you also stand up and loudly point out any truths you see in this film, even if you find them uncomfortable? Do you also call in to Rush and Hannity et al and try to correct them of the lies (sorry, conservatives don't lie, they "misspeak" ) they tell? Why don't you just make your own movie?



    I'm always curious about these "God Bless such and such" pronouncements. Can we really direct God to do our bidding? Do you think that we know better than God what should be done? Do you think that God interferes in our lives rather than letting us learn from our mistakes? Was the Creation so sloppy that it requires constant intervention? And suppose Bush were impeached. Might not that be a blessing for America and the presidency, though not the blessing you had in mind?
  • Reply 239 of 405
    neutrino23neutrino23 Posts: 1,561member
    I saw the movie yesterday. It was sold out for the noon showing.



    First of all, apart from the politics I think it was a great film. Your attention was riveted to the screen from start to finish. It was also a draining film, emotionally.



    Some short scenes were funny without having much importance. (e.g. Wolfowitz licking his comb then combing his hair.)



    Most of the scenes were very powerful. The footage from Iraq showing the maimed and dead children and the bereft woman crying to God over her lost family were heart wrenching. It made me cry to feel her sadness.



    The connections between the Bush family and the Saudis were chilling and spooky. It was eerie when the Secret Service showed up when they were standing across the street from the Saudi embassy.



    Bush comes off as pretty comical. The last scene where he tries to cite the adage "fool me once..." is really funny.



    Overall, the movie was too short. By that I mean it tries to cover a huge amount of material. Part of the reason it is draining is that it is so dense with information. Moore could have split this into six movies covering various topics in more detail.



    One of the good things about the movie is the content it shows which has been ignored by the corporate media. If mainstream media were more balanced then a film like this would not be able to gain such notoriety. If most of the clips were easily available to the public then it would be part of the public dialog and would not have to power to stir people so strongly.
  • Reply 240 of 405
    existenceexistence Posts: 991member
    What do you think the average Joe/Jane BlubberPack will think when they see this movie?
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