I wonder whether Apple will come out with an HDTV Tuner to complement the new 30" ACD. If yes, it might be a good substitute for a Plasma TV in a small apartment.
Despite all the moaning going on around here, my fingur is very close to hitting the buy botton on the 23 incher, which is to say that I like these displays very much.
Carson, I'd have a look at those monitors first before buying. Find out if those fast response times come at the price having interpolative color, hotspots or any of the other little "gotchas".
Anyone notice how they go on and on about the new monitor's anodized aluminum bezel, and then say that there will be a new iSight that ataches via a magnet?
Ugh. Port placement is horrible. Who wants cables dangling out the bottom of the display? Everytime you tilt or move the display you'll be moving the cables. And how much will the cables weigh down the display for adjustment? And for quick plugging things in and out the ports are on the back where you can't see them.
You'd think the most logical use for the display ports would be to plug your keyboard in to save snaking it down to the CPU. Never gonna happen with these displays.
At first I thought the same. But if you look at the maximum distance between the ports and the table you're resting it on, it's really quite small. It's maybe like 3 or 4 inches.
Not much of an improvement. Well, at least they match now. So is this the source of the hangable displays rumor?
Apparently you can hang the new displays on a wall, with that attachment (and perhaps something else to go on the wall?) I like the new design except for no height adjustment. At least they will tilt to vertical now. I'll be buying one.
If you're old enough to remember the Macintosh IIfx, I believe it was priced about 10K when it first appeared! And that was without any display.
Oh, I remember... When I first started working professionally I stared on an IIFX. They were originally sold for upwards of $12,000 IIRC (and I believe the tricked out one the production dept had was priced as something like $15,000 and required particular ram modules that no other Mac could use.) I also recall the IIfx being considered exhorborantly priced back then too. A good PC came in around $5,000 as I recall. There was a saying, "The PC you really want will always cost $5,000."
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I know this is catering to the professional market, but shouldn't Apple be working on getting the prices down, rather than up?
As cool as they are I think they're going to be a tough sell even in the pro market (there'll always be someone though). I know our company would never drop that kind of money on just a monitor. You could probably get 3 decent 20" CRTs for that if you really needed the desktop space.
I know this is catering to the professional market, but shouldn't Apple be working on getting the prices down, rather than up?
A 30" display is definitely not for everyone. Do you know how big that is? Most people wouldn't even want one so big. It would take three swipes of the mouse to move the cursor across the screen. (Exaggerating.) So sure, it's high priced!
I'd say the bigger disappointment is that the 23 and the 20 didn't drop a couple hundred each. I bet they will in a few months though.
400:1 contrast is mediocre. There are Dell branded LCDs with 800:1 contrast ratios. The 16ms reponse time is good though--infact, probably the fastest in the industry for the size. Apple's older LCDs had horrendous 40ms pixel response times.
16ms = 62.5 frames per second (max)
HDTV is 60fps. It's clear where Apple is targetting these LCDs...
As for the person who asked about HDTV, you don't need a tuner. All you need is a G5 (or a very fast G4), lots of storage and Panther.
Carson, I'd have a look at those monitors first before buying. Find out if those fast response times come at the price having interpolative color, hotspots or any of the other little "gotchas".
Cheers,
C.
I hear you, that is why my finger is frozen about a centimeter over the buy button.....
As for the person who asked about HDTV, you don't need a tuner. All you need is a G5 (or a very fast G4), lots of storage and Panther.
I read that article once before and I'm bewildered why it doesn't say anything about being able to simply watch HDTV and not record it. Is that possible without a tuner? And don't you need the cable company to turn on the bands (whatever) that bring in the HD signal? Forgive my ignorance but I'm a HDTV idiot.
I read that article once before and I'm bewildered why it doesn't say anything about being able to simply watch HDTV and not record it. Is that possible without a tuner? And don't you need the cable company to turn on the bands (whatever) that bring in the HD signal? Forgive my ignorance but I'm a HDTV idiot.
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Escher
Nice monitors, but not revolutionary and very expensive.
Overall a very underwhelming announcement.
Does anyone know responsetime and Contrastvalue?
No asian manufactuer has problems showing their specs, why can´t apple do it?
Originally posted by Minguez
Why can I not find elemantary and important specs like responsetime ans Contrast-value on apple´s website.
Does anyone know responsetime and Contrastvalue?
No asian manufactuer has problems showing their specs, why can´t apple do it?
these would for god knows what reason be available on the tech specs page
400:1 contrast ratio
16 ms response time
Cheers,
C.
Originally posted by jasenj1
Ugh. Port placement is horrible. Who wants cables dangling out the bottom of the display? Everytime you tilt or move the display you'll be moving the cables. And how much will the cables weigh down the display for adjustment? And for quick plugging things in and out the ports are on the back where you can't see them.
You'd think the most logical use for the display ports would be to plug your keyboard in to save snaking it down to the CPU. Never gonna happen with these displays.
At first I thought the same. But if you look at the maximum distance between the ports and the table you're resting it on, it's really quite small. It's maybe like 3 or 4 inches.
Originally posted by TWinbrook46636
Not much of an improvement. Well, at least they match now. So is this the source of the hangable displays rumor?
Apparently you can hang the new displays on a wall, with that attachment (and perhaps something else to go on the wall?) I like the new design except for no height adjustment. At least they will tilt to vertical now. I'll be buying one.
Originally posted by a_greer
Why is dual 30 inch displays a configurable option when these requier 2 dvi ports and there is only one graphics card, no option for a second?
It requires 1 dual link DVI port - not two DVI ports.
The new card has two dual link DVI ports.
$10,849.38 if I wanted to wrap it with a dual 2.5 Powermac.
C.
Originally posted by Concord
$6,301.92 CDN (after tax.) for that 30 incher and the Nvidia card.
$10,849.38 if I wanted to wrap it with a dual 2.5 Powermac.
C.
If you're old enough to remember the Macintosh IIfx, I believe it was priced about 10K when it first appeared! And that was without any display.
I know this is catering to the professional market, but shouldn't Apple be working on getting the prices down, rather than up?
You gain 2 ports on the monitors but lose them on the back of the G5.
Originally posted by satchmo:
If you're old enough to remember the Macintosh IIfx, I believe it was priced about 10K when it first appeared! And that was without any display.
Oh, I remember... When I first started working professionally I stared on an IIFX. They were originally sold for upwards of $12,000 IIRC (and I believe the tricked out one the production dept had was priced as something like $15,000 and required particular ram modules that no other Mac could use.) I also recall the IIfx being considered exhorborantly priced back then too. A good PC came in around $5,000 as I recall. There was a saying, "The PC you really want will always cost $5,000."
I know this is catering to the professional market, but shouldn't Apple be working on getting the prices down, rather than up?
As cool as they are I think they're going to be a tough sell even in the pro market (there'll always be someone though). I know our company would never drop that kind of money on just a monitor. You could probably get 3 decent 20" CRTs for that if you really needed the desktop space.
C.
Originally posted by satchmo
I know this is catering to the professional market, but shouldn't Apple be working on getting the prices down, rather than up?
A 30" display is definitely not for everyone. Do you know how big that is? Most people wouldn't even want one so big. It would take three swipes of the mouse to move the cursor across the screen. (Exaggerating.) So sure, it's high priced!
I'd say the bigger disappointment is that the 23 and the 20 didn't drop a couple hundred each. I bet they will in a few months though.
16ms = 62.5 frames per second (max)
HDTV is 60fps. It's clear where Apple is targetting these LCDs...
As for the person who asked about HDTV, you don't need a tuner. All you need is a G5 (or a very fast G4), lots of storage and Panther.
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.p...40426151111599
Originally posted by Concord
Carson, I'd have a look at those monitors first before buying. Find out if those fast response times come at the price having interpolative color, hotspots or any of the other little "gotchas".
Cheers,
C.
I hear you, that is why my finger is frozen about a centimeter over the buy button.....
Originally posted by Existence
As for the person who asked about HDTV, you don't need a tuner. All you need is a G5 (or a very fast G4), lots of storage and Panther.
I read that article once before and I'm bewildered why it doesn't say anything about being able to simply watch HDTV and not record it. Is that possible without a tuner? And don't you need the cable company to turn on the bands (whatever) that bring in the HD signal? Forgive my ignorance but I'm a HDTV idiot.
Sorry if this is off topic.
Originally posted by iDave
I read that article once before and I'm bewildered why it doesn't say anything about being able to simply watch HDTV and not record it. Is that possible without a tuner? And don't you need the cable company to turn on the bands (whatever) that bring in the HD signal? Forgive my ignorance but I'm a HDTV idiot.
Sorry if this is off topic.
VLC. Here's a more detailed discussion.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=386740
You need a fast mac for playback, but any mac with Panther can record.