IRT JohnQ, I think you're reading too much into it, it's a TV show working on a TV budget for crying out loud. Even movies do it, watch 2010 (2001 sequel) some time, and notice the swimming pool pumps and washroom hand driers they used to make the control panels on the ship...
In regard to the screen displays, even a wide-screen display would be out of place in the CIC of a warship/spaceship.
On US Navy ships, all of the surface/air tracker displays and radar repeaters are circular. (well, except for Aegis ships, but those large flat-screens are for overall battle planning, the 'raw' radar data is still done on a repeater.) This is most efficient, since the sensors sweep in circular paths. On Battlestar, some type of 3D holographic display would be ideal for space combat, but again, that would likely be beyond the show's budget.
What's with all the "frigging" and "for crying out louds"?
See this is what makes fanboys what they are - the fact that I can't have a rational semi-critical (curious, more than anything) conversation, without the FBs swarming to "Space Franchise X"'s defense.
Chill. We're talking.
While it might have been cheesy for them to use hand driers as ship controls, it is not as if they were using hand driers as hand driers (although in the context of 2010 it wouldn't contradict things all that much, Earth story, Earth objects, recent history). They at least didn't film it on the deck of a modern 777 and call it a spaceship. They tried to make it futuristic.
But when you have an independent civilization, unfathomably remote from Earth for millennia, one expects their restaurants to not look like Olive Gardens.
I don't buy the budget angle. Red Dwarf could do it What was their budget?
Art students would have tripped over themselves to make "alien" props for free.
talking about DVDs, Season 1 of BSG will be out in mid March in Europe.
I;ve already got the mini-movie thing and even the soundtrack... cant wait to get the 4 DVD set of Season 1...
I LOVE all the exterior/space "camera" work. That stuff is the coolest. Zooming in on a Basestar as it unleashes swarms of Raiders...
I also love the more accurate/advanced rotations the Vipers can do.
And I like the slightly muffled space sounds when out in space, a nice artistic license/compromise between realistic silence vs. over the top "too-loud" sound FX.
BSG is a fun series to watch, I've seen all episodes so far, however it's no Farscape which to me truely set the standard for science fiction, the filming quality of that series was excellent, very well shot.
I like the the effects of the space flights and combat, but in some instances you can cry "BS" (I won't say over what but there is one instance late in the series which is ridiculous imo).
As someone said, wasn't a battlestar supposed to be one bad ass ship, rather than a legacy and an antique? I don't get it, and also it doesn't seem as though the fleet is the remnants of the human race, rather just the story of one pack of survivors.
But essentially it is a good piece of entertainment, fairly typical yes, but definitely progress on other scifi series.
Which flying has been far fetched? I haven't seen them all but most of them seem fine.
Are you talking about that stop-on-a-dime, pivot and fire move? I can't see why it'd be impossible if the various thrusters and controllers were set up for it. It's space.
johnq, dunno if you've gotten that far (im gonna try and not spoil anything) but, ya know, that time when the BSG fighters are attacking that big, err, source of needed energy? The manouvers they pull off are just kinda, well, much.
***Potential spoiler sort of, but in answer to johnq***
No not about the space manoeuvres, they are realistic, rather the bit late in the series where a ship crash lands on a planet, the glass on the cockpit breaks yet the ship still doesn't blow up whilst its entering the atmosphere. Bit far fetched IMO.
***Potential spoiler sort of, but in answer to johnq***
No not about the space manoeuvres, they are realistic, rather the bit late in the series where a ship crash lands on a planet, the glass on the cockpit breaks yet the ship still doesn't blow up whilst its entering the atmosphere. Bit far fetched IMO.
Oh ok! Right, I saw that episode. I've seen 1-5 but not the 2 part miniseries. (D'oh! Kinda crucial)
SEMI-SPOILER:
I thought the gummy bit stuck in the hole was a bit flimsy for deep space
The new season begins in July with 10 eps and continues in Jan/06 with another 10. It's dispersed like an HBO or other free cable series (Monk, Dead Zone, etc.).
I like it, but I've seen about half of the episodes, and am very confused. I'm hoping that Sci Fi channel reruns between now and July will fill in the gaps. I'm very confused about the whole religious fanaticism of the Cylons in particular, and also about the telepathic stuff that accompanies it.
On a closing note, I think it's a better series than Stargate SG1 or Atlantis, and I prefer it to Farscape as well. Farscape had a few really amazing aspects, but it seemed a little too silly at times.
Don't cry about the details, as Steve has said, it's all about story story story, they could have done this with stick figures and it would still be interesting.
Thank you. The decision not to have "phasers', for lack of a better term, was a conscious one. By making the reality so similar to ours, it creates a subtle acceptance (for most) of the overall story. I don't think this show is intended to be a bullet proof sci fi tale. The setting is simply a backdrop to work with questions of humanity.
For what its worth, I fall into the "oh my god, this is the most amazing sci fi I have ever seen on tv " camp.
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In regard to the screen displays, even a wide-screen display would be out of place in the CIC of a warship/spaceship.
On US Navy ships, all of the surface/air tracker displays and radar repeaters are circular. (well, except for Aegis ships, but those large flat-screens are for overall battle planning, the 'raw' radar data is still done on a repeater.) This is most efficient, since the sensors sweep in circular paths. On Battlestar, some type of 3D holographic display would be ideal for space combat, but again, that would likely be beyond the show's budget.
See this is what makes fanboys what they are - the fact that I can't have a rational semi-critical (curious, more than anything) conversation, without the FBs swarming to "Space Franchise X"'s defense.
Chill. We're talking.
While it might have been cheesy for them to use hand driers as ship controls, it is not as if they were using hand driers as hand driers (although in the context of 2010 it wouldn't contradict things all that much, Earth story, Earth objects, recent history). They at least didn't film it on the deck of a modern 777 and call it a spaceship. They tried to make it futuristic.
But when you have an independent civilization, unfathomably remote from Earth for millennia, one expects their restaurants to not look like Olive Gardens.
I don't buy the budget angle. Red Dwarf could do it
Art students would have tripped over themselves to make "alien" props for free.
Originally posted by johnq
Red Dwarf
Wow, haven't seen that one in ages!
Are they out on DVD?
<---goes to Amazon.com....
I;ve already got the mini-movie thing and even the soundtrack... cant wait to get the 4 DVD set of Season 1...
Originally posted by ZO
talking about DVDs, Season 1 of BSG will be out in mid March in Europe.
I;ve already got the mini-movie thing and even the soundtrack... cant wait to get the 4 DVD set of Season 1...
I LOVE all the exterior/space "camera" work. That stuff is the coolest. Zooming in on a Basestar as it unleashes swarms of Raiders...
I also love the more accurate/advanced rotations the Vipers can do.
And I like the slightly muffled space sounds when out in space, a nice artistic license/compromise between realistic silence vs. over the top "too-loud" sound FX.
And I can't get enough of Grace Park. Yum.
I like the the effects of the space flights and combat, but in some instances you can cry "BS" (I won't say over what but there is one instance late in the series which is ridiculous imo).
As someone said, wasn't a battlestar supposed to be one bad ass ship, rather than a legacy and an antique? I don't get it, and also it doesn't seem as though the fleet is the remnants of the human race, rather just the story of one pack of survivors.
But essentially it is a good piece of entertainment, fairly typical yes, but definitely progress on other scifi series.
In the mpre series mini movie you see lots of the Battlestars getting destroyed because they are disabled by Cylons.
Mattyj, I can imagine the episode where the flying is a bit far fetched, but, oh well, its exhilirating as well.
BTW, is everyone dyslexic besides me? Anyone want to fix title of this thread?
Are you talking about that stop-on-a-dime, pivot and fire move? I can't see why it'd be impossible if the various thrusters and controllers were set up for it. It's space.
No not about the space manoeuvres, they are realistic, rather the bit late in the series where a ship crash lands on a planet, the glass on the cockpit breaks yet the ship still doesn't blow up whilst its entering the atmosphere. Bit far fetched IMO.
Originally posted by mattyj
***Potential spoiler sort of, but in answer to johnq***
No not about the space manoeuvres, they are realistic, rather the bit late in the series where a ship crash lands on a planet, the glass on the cockpit breaks yet the ship still doesn't blow up whilst its entering the atmosphere. Bit far fetched IMO.
Oh ok! Right, I saw that episode. I've seen 1-5 but not the 2 part miniseries. (D'oh! Kinda crucial)
SEMI-SPOILER:
I thought the gummy bit stuck in the hole was a bit flimsy for deep space
***********SPOILER ALERT*******
?elyts eiggoD
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Jesus, that was tense
Can't wait for the next season.
...And I can't be any more in love with Boomer/Grace Park if I tried. Definitely the most sympathetic 'robot' character(s) I can remember.
On a closing note, I think it's a better series than Stargate SG1 or Atlantis, and I prefer it to Farscape as well. Farscape had a few really amazing aspects, but it seemed a little too silly at times.
Originally posted by Republic
I don't know if it proved better than Farscape, but yes, both Stargate series were just eclipsed, in my opinion.
I like them all, and a few others, equally.
Much more fun to like them all without cross-franchise restraint.
Originally posted by Nebrie
Don't cry about the details, as Steve has said, it's all about story story story, they could have done this with stick figures and it would still be interesting.
Thank you. The decision not to have "phasers', for lack of a better term, was a conscious one. By making the reality so similar to ours, it creates a subtle acceptance (for most) of the overall story. I don't think this show is intended to be a bullet proof sci fi tale. The setting is simply a backdrop to work with questions of humanity.
For what its worth, I fall into the "oh my god, this is the most amazing sci fi I have ever seen on tv " camp.