how do you figure that longhore will be a flop? i dont think microsoft has made anything that was a flop except for maybe one or two oses. i mean they are a billion dolar company . why would they put things out that would flop. and i am sure diect x having lasted this long will not decline as you think it will. rather as they keep comming out with better versions it will get better every time. ATI is the future with their new line of cards.
i really dont think longhorn will flop and i am sure that once it gets off the ground direct x will be used for other things too. even if it isnt direct x 9 isnt that bad
I do think Longhorn will flop because there is no incentive to upgrade from XP. They will surely release D10 for XP and maybe Windows 2000. The so called "WinFS" has been scraped from the initial Longhorn release so the incentive to upgrade because of better file management is gone. There will also be nurmerous bugs in the initial release so there goes another incentive to upgrade. If I were a Windows user I would save my 100 to 200 dollars and upgrade my PC instead of wasting it on Longhorn.
it doesnt matter ATI is the bomb and it always will be
nvidia is just for redneck lacky simpleton users
How do you justify this? Was it not just said the ATI has poor OpenGL support? In the benchmark tests that I posted earlier it the 6800 beat the x800 7 to 3. The only place where ATI is "the bomb" is on windoze and windoze isnt "the bomb" it is "a bomb". And even there nVidia is king b/c the benchmarks I posted were run on Wintel machines.
protostar you are the typical redneck simpleton . no one cares about open gl. shit it isnt that great. and windows isnt that bad. i am wiliing ro sacrifice some of my secerity in order to have compatibility. you stupid mac and apple uses have to wait an extra like 6 mothes just for good games and shit to come out. i mean damn doom 3 just came out for mac like last month while for windows it came out a long time ago. everyone knows ati is better just give it up
protostar you are the typical redneck simpleton . no one cares about open gl. shit it isnt that great. and windows isnt that bad. i am wiliing ro sacrifice some of my secerity in order to have compatibility. you stupid mac and apple uses have to wait an extra like 6 mothes just for good games and shit to come out. i mean damn doom 3 just came out for mac like last month while for windows it came out a long time ago. everyone knows ati is better just give it up
This post makes me think more that this thread had a hidden agenda for you ATI-MAN. Hey, I use mac and personally think the X800 is better then the 6800. I will sacrifice performance for the cooler and smaller chip. But, I can't deny that the 6800 overall is a better GPU. Back to the hidden agenda, I had bad feelings about this thread. With Protostar and ATI-MAN constantly battling each other and then ATI-MAN revealing this maybe hidden agenda to get this thread into Mac vs Windows.
protostar you are the typical redneck simpleton . no one cares about open gl. shit it isnt that great. and windows isnt that bad. i am wiliing ro sacrifice some of my secerity in order to have compatibility. you stupid mac and apple uses have to wait an extra like 6 mothes just for good games and shit to come out. i mean damn doom 3 just came out for mac like last month while for windows it came out a long time ago. everyone knows ati is better just give it up
Is that so? Then how come every other OS uses OpenGL except Windows? As for the redneck simpleton remark, you dont go to Walmart and find Macs or Lintel boxes (at least I've never seen any there) u find crappy ass HP computers running Winblows XP. And inside the case Im sure you'll find an ati card 'cause ati blows!
This post makes me think more that this thread had a hidden agenda for you ATI-MAN. Hey, I use mac and personally think the X800 is better then the 6800. I will sacrifice performance for the cooler and smaller chip. But, I can't deny that the 6800 overall is a better GPU. Back to the hidden agenda, I had bad feelings about this thread. With Protostar and ATI-MAN constantly battling each other and then ATI-MAN revealing this maybe hidden agenda to get this thread into Mac vs Windows.
I think we've come to the conclusion that Prostar created the ATI-MAN account, and is using it to troll against himself for reasons nobody can understand.
An admin could get the IPs from the posts to verify this.
What is wrong with you people?! I am not ati-man! It makes no sense for one person to create another account to contradict himself on the same subject. It just doesnt make any sense.
you people must be the dumbest people oin earth , me and protostar are not the same person. I worship ati, he on the other hand lives in sin worshipping his false idol nvidiot. how would it make any sense that we are the same person. and by the way everyone knows ATI is better
If x86 is any reference point, then I'd say nVidia is better on a Mac. The main reason I say this is that ATi has traditionally had more driver overhead running OpenGL, which means more CPU cycles and lower frame rates than the NV counterpart. Where ATI continues to shine is in DirectX performance, which is very common in the Windows world of gaming. However, the last I heard, Mac uses OpenGL to accelerate its UI. Since Apple doesn't use DirectX, it can't use the best aspect of the GPU!
The reason I think Apple goes with ATI the most is that they can get a proprietary solution directly from ATI. nVidia only makes GPUs and a reference design. After that, it's up to a 3rd party (Abit, PNY, MSI, etc) to make the actual card. As a consequence, it's probably harder for Apple to get a willing nVidia supplier without having to make at least 2 deals (one with the card maker, and another with NV for licensing).
Not the most fanboy arguement, but just my opinion.
you guys must be the dumbest people i have ever heard. we are not the same person. i am sure neither one of us has schizophrenia. i bet half of you have never even used an ati card , so you form your opinions solely based on your biaes and stupid opinion(and ultimatly wrong as well)
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Originally posted by ATI-MAN
i dont think microsoft has made anything that was a flop except for maybe one or two oses.
"Aside from 1 or 2 OSes"
well, maybe it'll become 2 or 3.
Direct X 10 WILL NOT BE REALEASED FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN LONGHORN AND POSSIBLY XBOX2.
Thus, if longhorn flops, Direct X will die on the PC. The X-Box 2, however, will continue to use DX10.
You wonder why the X-Box 2 uses ATi... Direct X is the reason.
nvidia is just for redneck lacky simpleton users
it doesnt matter ATI is the bomb and it always will be
nvidia is just for redneck lacky simpleton users
How do you justify this? Was it not just said the ATI has poor OpenGL support? In the benchmark tests that I posted earlier it the 6800 beat the x800 7 to 3. The only place where ATI is "the bomb" is on windoze and windoze isnt "the bomb" it is "a bomb". And even there nVidia is king b/c the benchmarks I posted were run on Wintel machines.
Originally posted by ATI-MAN
protostar you are the typical redneck simpleton . no one cares about open gl. shit it isnt that great. and windows isnt that bad. i am wiliing ro sacrifice some of my secerity in order to have compatibility. you stupid mac and apple uses have to wait an extra like 6 mothes just for good games and shit to come out. i mean damn doom 3 just came out for mac like last month while for windows it came out a long time ago. everyone knows ati is better just give it up
This post makes me think more that this thread had a hidden agenda for you ATI-MAN. Hey, I use mac and personally think the X800 is better then the 6800. I will sacrifice performance for the cooler and smaller chip. But, I can't deny that the 6800 overall is a better GPU. Back to the hidden agenda, I had bad feelings about this thread. With Protostar and ATI-MAN constantly battling each other and then ATI-MAN revealing this maybe hidden agenda to get this thread into Mac vs Windows.
protostar you are the typical redneck simpleton . no one cares about open gl. shit it isnt that great. and windows isnt that bad. i am wiliing ro sacrifice some of my secerity in order to have compatibility. you stupid mac and apple uses have to wait an extra like 6 mothes just for good games and shit to come out. i mean damn doom 3 just came out for mac like last month while for windows it came out a long time ago. everyone knows ati is better just give it up
Is that so? Then how come every other OS uses OpenGL except Windows? As for the redneck simpleton remark, you dont go to Walmart and find Macs or Lintel boxes (at least I've never seen any there) u find crappy ass HP computers running Winblows XP. And inside the case Im sure you'll find an ati card 'cause ati blows!
Originally posted by quagmire
This post makes me think more that this thread had a hidden agenda for you ATI-MAN. Hey, I use mac and personally think the X800 is better then the 6800. I will sacrifice performance for the cooler and smaller chip. But, I can't deny that the 6800 overall is a better GPU. Back to the hidden agenda, I had bad feelings about this thread. With Protostar and ATI-MAN constantly battling each other and then ATI-MAN revealing this maybe hidden agenda to get this thread into Mac vs Windows.
I think we've come to the conclusion that Prostar created the ATI-MAN account, and is using it to troll against himself for reasons nobody can understand.
An admin could get the IPs from the posts to verify this.
LOL INTERNET
If x86 is any reference point, then I'd say nVidia is better on a Mac. The main reason I say this is that ATi has traditionally had more driver overhead running OpenGL, which means more CPU cycles and lower frame rates than the NV counterpart. Where ATI continues to shine is in DirectX performance, which is very common in the Windows world of gaming. However, the last I heard, Mac uses OpenGL to accelerate its UI. Since Apple doesn't use DirectX, it can't use the best aspect of the GPU!
The reason I think Apple goes with ATI the most is that they can get a proprietary solution directly from ATI. nVidia only makes GPUs and a reference design. After that, it's up to a 3rd party (Abit, PNY, MSI, etc) to make the actual card. As a consequence, it's probably harder for Apple to get a willing nVidia supplier without having to make at least 2 deals (one with the card maker, and another with NV for licensing).
Not the most fanboy arguement, but just my opinion.
Sorry.