What if both the 12- and 14-inch iBooks are replaced by a 14-inch HD widescreen iBook, available in two configurations.
First Configuration:
$1,099
Second Configuration:
$1,399
The 12-inch would then be exclusive to the pro line and would receive a face lift at the Paris Expo along with the rest of the PowerBook line.
That's pretty much exactly what I was thinking. The new small PowerBook might be a 13" wide screen. I've often thought it was unnecessary for Apple to offer two iBooks (although those who bought the 14" model might disagree).
That's pretty much exactly what I was thinking. The new small PowerBook might be a 13" wide screen. I've often thought it was unnecessary for Apple to offer two iBooks (although those who bought the 14" model might disagree).
Offering 2 ibooks isn't dumb... offering 2 ibooks with the SAME resolution with different screen sizes is dumb. They should at least bump up the 14" to 1154 resolution.
Offering 2 ibooks isn't dumb... offering 2 ibooks with the SAME resolution with different screen sizes is dumb. They should at least bump up the 14" to 1154 resolution.
WWDC = portable G5. Maybe a lapzilla, or possibly a portable desktop. It's time for a new Powerbook; compared to the current Wintel offerings, the Powerbook is more like a Powerlessbook.
WWDC = portable G5. Maybe a lapzilla, or possibly a portable desktop. It's time for a new Powerbook; compared to the current Wintel offerings, the Powerbook is more like a Powerlessbook.
The more the time passes the more I think we are going to see finally the PowerBook G5 at WWDC.
I would love to see an 20" PowerBook with HD screen res. That would be great.
Not everybody needs to use a laptop on a plane, so it would be the ultimate portable "desktop" machine. Bring it on Apple!
Designers and editors on the field would love such machine. The Imac 20" is great but not very portable, so a 20" laptop would be a great solution for such individuals.
How about this bit on MOSR that suggests an announcement of a dual-core apple "Xstation" line at WWDC?
If the price were quite a lot higher (as expected) it wouldn't change one bit my intent to plunk down $$ for a dual-2.3 in the coming month or so. What I want, eventually, is the 2nd generation dual-core, when the price is finally in range of mere mortals.
MacDailynews.com has an unusual report from a Sony Playstation site talking about apple and sony colaborating on the PS3 with alot of integrated livingroom-ish tech. This report and others around the net from pretty established resources (cringly and others) about Movie download services, updated video airports, etc. could make this WWDC the year of home entertainment. Also, it would be good to stay ahead of the Xbox i supose
Of course June 6th is in quarter 2, we are waiting for new iBooks, January's PowerBook G4 bump was small, and hidden in a plist file in 10.3.5 was reference to a G5 PowerBook (disappeared in later software updates) called 7,1 and 7,2 (interesting considering PowerBook G4 12" is in the same model class as iBook G4s)...
The suspense builds...it's prolly all wishful thinking that we could see this at WWDC, but life is stranger than fiction, and Apple is Apple.
Um, so you think Apple can never revise the iBook design just because they've sold a bunch to schools, or you think Apple must stop selling to schools before they can revise the iBook? Neither makes sense to me. Why are schools any different than the hundreds of thousands of other customers who will just have to grin and bear it when their iBooks become the "previous" models?
I think the reason for the long delay is that iBooks have been selling well as they are, so Apple has had plenty of time to come up with a great new design. Four years is pretty long to go without a change, though. That's why I think it'll happen soon; probably at WWDC.
Of course they'll revise the design eventually, but my point was that their current push to the education market has been a big reason the design has stayed the same for four years straight.
Consumer portables would usually not wait THAT long for an overhaul.
I shutter to think if they are correct on their claims of iBook G5s and PowerBook G5s 2nd quarter '05!
The suspense builds...it's prolly all wishful thinking that we could see this at WWDC, but life is stranger than fiction, and Apple is Apple.
Add the rumor the iBook is getting a new design (widescreen) and will be one size (13.3") and things get interesting. I do not believe we will see an iBook G5, but I can see a PowerBook G5 at WWDC2005 and an iBook G4 widescreen in Paris. Once the PowerBooks get a G5 Apple will have room to upgrade the iBook at least a few more times before shipping one with a G5.
However, it does make sense for Apple to ship G5s in the iBooks and PowerBooks because:
1) Restructure the line of portables
a) iBooks: one size (13.3"), two models (low-end/high-end)
b) PowerBooks: two sizes (15", 17") three models 15" (low-end/high-end), 17" (high-end)
2) Economy of scale
3) Steve said the G5 was the platform they are building on so they might as well get the G5 in the portables.
Add the rumor the iBook is getting a new design (widescreen) and will be one size (13.3") and things get interesting. I do not believe we will see an iBook G5, but I can see a PowerBook G5 at WWDC2005 and an iBook G4 widescreen in Paris. Once the PowerBooks get a G5 Apple will have room to upgrade the iBook at least a few more times before shipping one with a G5.
However, it does make sense for Apple to ship G5s in the iBooks and PowerBooks because:
1) Restructure the line of portables
a) iBooks: one size (13.3"), two models (low-end/high-end)
b) PowerBooks: two sizes (15", 17") three models 15" (low-end/high-end), 17" (high-end)
2) Economy of scale
3) Steve said the G5 was the platform they are building on so they might as well get the G5 in the portables.
Also, we can compare the iBook and iMac lines to the PowerBook and PowerMac lines. iBook could still have different screen sizes and configurations, but like the iMac these configurations are far more limited than the Power line. The PowerBooks, like the PowerMacs, will have a far greater number of options.
This will be especially true as bluetooth and AirPort become standard features across the board.
I think that Apple needs to keep both the iBook and Powerbook 12" models, or at the biggest, 13". The smaller computers are great and to limit people who want a small computer to go with the more expensive one is not a good idea, especially with Apple's push of the iBook and education. The 12" models are perfect for school.
I bought my kids a 12" ibook 1.2. What a trully usefull, fun machine. After playing with it myself from time to time "to keep everything ship shape" and wathing my kids use it and talk about this very thing, i think a "mini-book" would be amazing. 10" widescreen, superthin and light. Maybe only an external optical drive, running Tiger. What a sweet machine for notes in class, Airtunes, email, etc. My kids would love it! (as would i, for general maintenance of course!)
- iPod Updates (to keep the cash cow alive; remember, the iPod has been very "useful" for Apple the past year)
- may be new Monitors
- for sure some technical home bibelot (AirTunes, Mediastation, iPhoto HD ;-) ,....)
Jan 06:
- New PowerMacs Dual Core
(consider, that many people have ordered new PM recently. It's very unlikely that SJ will announce new PowerMacs on WWDC while UPS, TNT and DHL shipps PowerMacs that where ordered some weeks ago (2.3 + 2.7 Ghz,...).
- some Mac Dealers call the youngest Macs "PowerMac G5 (2005)".
Comments
Originally posted by DHagan4755
What if both the 12- and 14-inch iBooks are replaced by a 14-inch HD widescreen iBook, available in two configurations.
First Configuration:
$1,099
Second Configuration:
$1,399
The 12-inch would then be exclusive to the pro line and would receive a face lift at the Paris Expo along with the rest of the PowerBook line.
That's pretty much exactly what I was thinking. The new small PowerBook might be a 13" wide screen. I've often thought it was unnecessary for Apple to offer two iBooks (although those who bought the 14" model might disagree).
Originally posted by iDave
That's pretty much exactly what I was thinking. The new small PowerBook might be a 13" wide screen. I've often thought it was unnecessary for Apple to offer two iBooks (although those who bought the 14" model might disagree).
Offering 2 ibooks isn't dumb... offering 2 ibooks with the SAME resolution with different screen sizes is dumb. They should at least bump up the 14" to 1154 resolution.
Originally posted by emig647
Offering 2 ibooks isn't dumb... offering 2 ibooks with the SAME resolution with different screen sizes is dumb. They should at least bump up the 14" to 1154 resolution.
Agreed.
Originally posted by Junkyard Dawg
WWDC = portable G5. Maybe a lapzilla, or possibly a portable desktop. It's time for a new Powerbook; compared to the current Wintel offerings, the Powerbook is more like a Powerlessbook.
The more the time passes the more I think we are going to see finally the PowerBook G5 at WWDC.
I would love to see an 20" PowerBook with HD screen res. That would be great.
Not everybody needs to use a laptop on a plane, so it would be the ultimate portable "desktop" machine. Bring it on Apple!
Designers and editors on the field would love such machine. The Imac 20" is great but not very portable, so a 20" laptop would be a great solution for such individuals.
If the price were quite a lot higher (as expected) it wouldn't change one bit my intent to plunk down $$ for a dual-2.3 in the coming month or so. What I want, eventually, is the 2nd generation dual-core, when the price is finally in range of mere mortals.
Brian
Originally posted by bjewett
How about this bit on MOSR that suggests an announcement of a dual-core apple "Xstation" line at WWDC?
I will tell you when I stop laughing.
Linky
I shutter to think if they are correct on their claims of iBook G5s and PowerBook G5s 2nd quarter '05!
Linky
Of course June 6th is in quarter 2, we are waiting for new iBooks, January's PowerBook G4 bump was small, and hidden in a plist file in 10.3.5 was reference to a G5 PowerBook (disappeared in later software updates) called 7,1 and 7,2 (interesting considering PowerBook G4 12" is in the same model class as iBook G4s)...
The suspense builds...it's prolly all wishful thinking that we could see this at WWDC, but life is stranger than fiction, and Apple is Apple.
Originally posted by iDave
Um, so you think Apple can never revise the iBook design just because they've sold a bunch to schools, or you think Apple must stop selling to schools before they can revise the iBook? Neither makes sense to me. Why are schools any different than the hundreds of thousands of other customers who will just have to grin and bear it when their iBooks become the "previous" models?
I think the reason for the long delay is that iBooks have been selling well as they are, so Apple has had plenty of time to come up with a great new design. Four years is pretty long to go without a change, though. That's why I think it'll happen soon; probably at WWDC.
Of course they'll revise the design eventually, but my point was that their current push to the education market has been a big reason the design has stayed the same for four years straight.
Consumer portables would usually not wait THAT long for an overhaul.
Originally posted by DHagan4755
I shutter to think if they are correct on their claims of iBook G5s and PowerBook G5s 2nd quarter '05!
The suspense builds...it's prolly all wishful thinking that we could see this at WWDC, but life is stranger than fiction, and Apple is Apple.
Add the rumor the iBook is getting a new design (widescreen) and will be one size (13.3") and things get interesting. I do not believe we will see an iBook G5, but I can see a PowerBook G5 at WWDC2005 and an iBook G4 widescreen in Paris. Once the PowerBooks get a G5 Apple will have room to upgrade the iBook at least a few more times before shipping one with a G5.
However, it does make sense for Apple to ship G5s in the iBooks and PowerBooks because:
1) Restructure the line of portables
a) iBooks: one size (13.3"), two models (low-end/high-end)
b) PowerBooks: two sizes (15", 17") three models 15" (low-end/high-end), 17" (high-end)
2) Economy of scale
3) Steve said the G5 was the platform they are building on so they might as well get the G5 in the portables.
Originally posted by troberts
Add the rumor the iBook is getting a new design (widescreen) and will be one size (13.3") and things get interesting. I do not believe we will see an iBook G5, but I can see a PowerBook G5 at WWDC2005 and an iBook G4 widescreen in Paris. Once the PowerBooks get a G5 Apple will have room to upgrade the iBook at least a few more times before shipping one with a G5.
However, it does make sense for Apple to ship G5s in the iBooks and PowerBooks because:
1) Restructure the line of portables
a) iBooks: one size (13.3"), two models (low-end/high-end)
b) PowerBooks: two sizes (15", 17") three models 15" (low-end/high-end), 17" (high-end)
2) Economy of scale
3) Steve said the G5 was the platform they are building on so they might as well get the G5 in the portables.
Also, we can compare the iBook and iMac lines to the PowerBook and PowerMac lines. iBook could still have different screen sizes and configurations, but like the iMac these configurations are far more limited than the Power line. The PowerBooks, like the PowerMacs, will have a far greater number of options.
This will be especially true as bluetooth and AirPort become standard features across the board.
WWCD:
- New PowerBooks G5 HD (Wide Screen, HDTV, G5)
- iPod Updates (to keep the cash cow alive; remember, the iPod has been very "useful" for Apple the past year)
- may be new Monitors
- for sure some technical home bibelot (AirTunes, Mediastation, iPhoto HD ;-) ,....)
Jan 06:
- New PowerMacs Dual Core
(consider, that many people have ordered new PM recently. It's very unlikely that SJ will announce new PowerMacs on WWDC while UPS, TNT and DHL shipps PowerMacs that where ordered some weeks ago (2.3 + 2.7 Ghz,...).
- some Mac Dealers call the youngest Macs "PowerMac G5 (2005)".
Originally posted by DHagan4755
With now less than 3 weeks to go until WWDC, it's awfully quiet out there....
The quieter the better!
Hopefully our dreams will be fulfilled at WWDC.