There is all kinds of evidence like this that points to a tablet.
If you read the threads I mentioned above at TreoCentral, I rattle on about a good 20. You can search for more there too.
Something I haven't mentioned yet though is the development of The Salling Clicker as another indicator. They are releasing a major new release at the end of Spring/beginning of Summer timeframe (you know, about the time of WWDC). Joseph hasn't officially released much at all as to what it will include. But curiously, it will supposedly let you remotely control your computer as if your phone (or other such device) was a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. Currently, there is only one phone like this, the Sony Ericsson K700 and it doesn't work for the Mac ? so why would this Mac only app include this functionality. Also, he mentions in the forum that the Tapwave Zodiacs, with their analog motion control using a pressure-sensitive joystick, landscape/portrait rotation, etc, etc, will be supported "as well" in this coming release. Odd sense Tapwave is going out of business. Probably nothing but it raised a flag.
But what could be more important is that he has picked up a Mac mini and an EyeTV unit for development (and he has made very clear that his program will not incorporate IR developments, EVER)
I'm just throwing this out there. I don't have any hard evidence that he is developing his software for some new Apple branded tablet, but who knows.
Well I doubt Salling Clicker is any evidence of Apple creating a tablet computer.
I'm in the "same boat" as the person who posted to the weblog about the Apple tablet. My sources say we are going to see a tablet type "new genre" of computer from Apple at the WWDC keynote. It's going to be running a version of OS X based around an intel processor.
While obviously you have no reason to believe, I will put my money where my mouth is....(i did this previously and WON ;-) $50 for anyone/everyone on the forum who would like...
cheers.
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Originally posted by rongold
There is all kinds of evidence like this that points to a tablet.
If you read the threads I mentioned above at TreoCentral, I rattle on about a good 20. You can search for more there too.
Something I haven't mentioned yet though is the development of The Salling Clicker as another indicator. They are releasing a major new release at the end of Spring/beginning of Summer timeframe (you know, about the time of WWDC). Joseph hasn't officially released much at all as to what it will include. But curiously, it will supposedly let you remotely control your computer as if your phone (or other such device) was a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. Currently, there is only one phone like this, the Sony Ericsson K700 and it doesn't work for the Mac ? so why would this Mac only app include this functionality. Also, he mentions in the forum that the Tapwave Zodiacs, with their analog motion control using a pressure-sensitive joystick, landscape/portrait rotation, etc, etc, will be supported "as well" in this coming release. Odd sense Tapwave is going out of business. Probably nothing but it raised a flag.
But what could be more important is that he has picked up a Mac mini and an EyeTV unit for development (and he has made very clear that his program will not incorporate IR developments, EVER)
I'm just throwing this out there. I don't have any hard evidence that he is developing his software for some new Apple branded tablet, but who knows.
Well I doubt Salling Clicker is any evidence of Apple creating a tablet computer.
I'm in the "same boat" as the person who posted to the weblog about the Apple tablet. My sources say we are going to see a tablet type "new genre" of computer from Apple at the WWDC keynote. It's going to be running a version of OS X based around an intel processor.
While obviously you have no reason to believe, I will put my money where my mouth is....(i did this previously and WON ;-) $50 for anyone/everyone on the forum who would like...
I'm telling you guys: If anybody can do a tablet right it's Apple. A lot of people thought the iPod would fail when it was released out of right field a few years ago and look what happened.
I can see Apple saying to other tablet manufacturers, "we want to show you how to REALLY do a tablet right."
Hey now! I thought an Apple MP3 player would fail before it was released, but not after, so get it straight damn it!
I was sitting in line at one of the early Apple retail stores to get one. I didn't even want one, but I thought if Apple saw that if they built it "we" would come, it would lead to some better products like a tablet. (took them long enough) Nevertheless I love my iPod original 5GB model, and have upgraded to 40GB model since. But, that's what I keep saying about workstations. If Apple builds one that really kicks ass "they" will come. "They" being studios, students, pro's and semi-pro's. All they have to do is offer a Machine that can handle 3D like a powerhouse, - That, and the rest of those Apple pro apps will gather a hell of a lot more attention. Apple can do anything and succeed if they do it the Apple way.
Anyway. I don't think there is an Apple tablet as much as I would like one. \
please open up Quartz Composer and look at the patch library. Note the Controller named 'TABLET'
Description-
"Tablet
This patch returns the current state of the tablet pointing device.
The pen position is expressed in units in the Quartz Composer coordinates system. The pen tilt on the X and Y axes is normalized to the [-1.0,1.0] range and the pen pressure is normalized to the [0,1] range.
Note that this patch does not read the tablet state directly but is dependent on the proper information being passed to the composition. This information may not always be available, depending on the environment in which Quartz Composer is running."
Now prey tell what is this and for all the art Tablets out there now this would not work... i.e. you can not see what you are moving on the tablets, you have to look at the monitor...
Or maybe Im missing something... was this in QC 1.0?
Can you say....... Photoshop, Painter, or WACOM. You've never used any of these have you?
Actually Im a graphic designer and I have and do use them. However, I have not seen this as a feature before. In addition I would add that using an Art Tablet is not a common thing. I have a degree in Art and know a lot of artist of all mediums and not one of them use a Tablet. Im not saying that its not the possible use of the QC controller - just that its interesting that its included in QC and it would be even more interesting if it was to be used for a Tablet.
I used an Art Tablet in college and hated it. I would much prefer to draw on paper and then scan it for further use. That or Illustrator. IMO they don't work well because you don't get the visual on the tablet.
I used an Art Tablet in college and hated it. I would much prefer to draw on paper and then scan it for further use. That or Illustrator. IMO they don't work well because you don't get the visual on the tablet.
i agree. i'm an art director and have used a tablet to do retouching and drawing maybe 10 times in my 12 year career. i simply don't like them because there's too much dis-assocation between where i'm drawing and where that drawing is taking effect. plus, i really don't like that the screen is mapped absolutely to the tablet's surface. if i want to pull down a menu, i don't want to have to extend my arm all the way to the top of the tablet in order to do it.
i do know a lot of people who use them, but of the artists/graphic designers i know, probably only 1-2% of them use a tablet regularly.
They are a bit akward at first, but you get used to them after while. It's sort of like learning to type; at first it is very strange to be doing stuff with your hands and looking at the screen for the result of it. After a bit, when the hand-eye coordination is better, it is just as easy as drawing on paper.
... all those Intel boxes in Apple's back yard are just Intel's home delivery drivers bringing round a new slew of chips for Wireless USB? Not a switch in processor technologies, but a switch in peripheral concepts -- including but not limited to a switch from FireWire to new USB standards... Go, think!
you seem to be posting this on every forum and thread i visit. do you know something or are you just after the attention?
WiMax is not a home wireless technology, but a long-range hi-bandwidth technology that will ultimately replace cable and landline telephone. That is to say, it is not a LAN replacement, but a broadband replacement. I hope that Apple is indeed buying such chips for a router; WiMax is a great technology (which the RBOCs will try to kill in any way fair or foul).
Yes, Intel does now own the ARM design, but they call it something else these days, I don't remember what. Such a chip might be good for a video iPod, or a PDA.
As for Transitive's technology, I don't believe a word of it. I don't think it works. There is no 'silver bullet' to emulation.
RISC was good as far as it went, but I'd like to think the future in processors is to make them even more complex, with context-switchable instruction sets, even problem-optimized instruction sets. Due to the RISC detour, nobody's been working on that for some time.
I'm very tired of everyone jumping on any rumor that says 'tablet' and throwing out all the same old ideas again. By now, AppleInsider must have gigabytes of tablet threads.
Its a Nokia internet tablet, 4" screen, Linux OS with an Opera browser (looks like a web kiosk display on the screen.), bluetooth, wifi and card slot. $350 expected price late this year.
So what about an Apple web browser tablet. Maybe running in a similar way to this as a browser with flash storage when away from your mac, then acting as the portable display tablet for your mac when you're within wifi distance, or even remotely if you're at some other hotspot area.
Hmmm... just out of curiosity, if I was to do a search, what terms would I use?
You could try to wade through all of Kormac's posts, or decipher the cryptic predictions of Codename. All that's a difficult task, however, but both contained discussions of just such a device. Just to prove the idea has been discussed here many times, here's a couple of links.
Check out DaveGee's 2001 quote from Shane Anderson in this thread Dolphin
There's plenty of speculation on this in countless ancient threads. I still maintain that the product you are now taking credit for was actually designed by the AppleInsider brain trust. Steve read every word and maybe even egged us on under the guise of Kormac and Codename. The only thing I wonder about is if he will give us credit in the WWDC keynote.
I was just going to post that engadget link as well. If Nokia's thinking of entering the foray with a non-mobile (read: not cell phone) device, there's something to be had in this space in the market.
Tablet-like, handheld that runs on Intel's ARM with BT, Wifi, and will eventually support VoIP.
Now imagine if it was elegant in interface and experience. Newton 2 anyone?
I have on and have been using it for about two years now. It was expensive but it works very well
i've seen them. i also realize that it takes time to learn to use a trackpad just like it takes time to learn trackballs. but i have no issues using mice, so i never switched. i paint and draw with a mouse without any issue. so i don't miss using a tablet at all. in fact, i'm probably more efficient with a mouse now than anything else.
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If you read the threads I mentioned above at TreoCentral, I rattle on about a good 20. You can search for more there too.
Something I haven't mentioned yet though is the development of The Salling Clicker as another indicator. They are releasing a major new release at the end of Spring/beginning of Summer timeframe (you know, about the time of WWDC). Joseph hasn't officially released much at all as to what it will include. But curiously, it will supposedly let you remotely control your computer as if your phone (or other such device) was a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. Currently, there is only one phone like this, the Sony Ericsson K700 and it doesn't work for the Mac ? so why would this Mac only app include this functionality. Also, he mentions in the forum that the Tapwave Zodiacs, with their analog motion control using a pressure-sensitive joystick, landscape/portrait rotation, etc, etc, will be supported "as well" in this coming release. Odd sense Tapwave is going out of business. Probably nothing but it raised a flag.
But what could be more important is that he has picked up a Mac mini and an EyeTV unit for development (and he has made very clear that his program will not incorporate IR developments, EVER)
I'm just throwing this out there. I don't have any hard evidence that he is developing his software for some new Apple branded tablet, but who knows.
I'm in the "same boat" as the person who posted to the weblog about the Apple tablet. My sources say we are going to see a tablet type "new genre" of computer from Apple at the WWDC keynote. It's going to be running a version of OS X based around an intel processor.
While obviously you have no reason to believe, I will put my money where my mouth is....(i did this previously and WON ;-) $50 for anyone/everyone on the forum who would like...
cheers.
Originally posted by rongold
There is all kinds of evidence like this that points to a tablet.
If you read the threads I mentioned above at TreoCentral, I rattle on about a good 20. You can search for more there too.
Something I haven't mentioned yet though is the development of The Salling Clicker as another indicator. They are releasing a major new release at the end of Spring/beginning of Summer timeframe (you know, about the time of WWDC). Joseph hasn't officially released much at all as to what it will include. But curiously, it will supposedly let you remotely control your computer as if your phone (or other such device) was a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. Currently, there is only one phone like this, the Sony Ericsson K700 and it doesn't work for the Mac ? so why would this Mac only app include this functionality. Also, he mentions in the forum that the Tapwave Zodiacs, with their analog motion control using a pressure-sensitive joystick, landscape/portrait rotation, etc, etc, will be supported "as well" in this coming release. Odd sense Tapwave is going out of business. Probably nothing but it raised a flag.
But what could be more important is that he has picked up a Mac mini and an EyeTV unit for development (and he has made very clear that his program will not incorporate IR developments, EVER)
I'm just throwing this out there. I don't have any hard evidence that he is developing his software for some new Apple branded tablet, but who knows.
or version 5.0 of Etch-A-SketchUp.
Originally posted by webmail
Well I doubt Salling Clicker is any evidence of Apple creating a tablet computer.
I'm in the "same boat" as the person who posted to the weblog about the Apple tablet. My sources say we are going to see a tablet type "new genre" of computer from Apple at the WWDC keynote. It's going to be running a version of OS X based around an intel processor.
While obviously you have no reason to believe, I will put my money where my mouth is....(i did this previously and WON ;-) $50 for anyone/everyone on the forum who would like...
cheers.
Your on...
Originally posted by CosmoNut
I'm telling you guys: If anybody can do a tablet right it's Apple. A lot of people thought the iPod would fail when it was released out of right field a few years ago and look what happened.
I can see Apple saying to other tablet manufacturers, "we want to show you how to REALLY do a tablet right."
Hey now! I thought an Apple MP3 player would fail before it was released, but not after, so get it straight damn it!
I was sitting in line at one of the early Apple retail stores to get one. I didn't even want one, but I thought if Apple saw that if they built it "we" would come, it would lead to some better products like a tablet. (took them long enough) Nevertheless I love my iPod original 5GB model, and have upgraded to 40GB model since. But, that's what I keep saying about workstations. If Apple builds one that really kicks ass "they" will come. "They" being studios, students, pro's and semi-pro's. All they have to do is offer a Machine that can handle 3D like a powerhouse, - That, and the rest of those Apple pro apps will gather a hell of a lot more attention. Apple can do anything and succeed if they do it the Apple way.
Anyway. I don't think there is an Apple tablet as much as I would like one.
please open up Quartz Composer and look at the patch library. Note the Controller named 'TABLET'
Description-
"Tablet
This patch returns the current state of the tablet pointing device.
The pen position is expressed in units in the Quartz Composer coordinates system. The pen tilt on the X and Y axes is normalized to the [-1.0,1.0] range and the pen pressure is normalized to the [0,1] range.
Note that this patch does not read the tablet state directly but is dependent on the proper information being passed to the composition. This information may not always be available, depending on the environment in which Quartz Composer is running."
Now prey tell what is this and for all the art Tablets out there now this would not work... i.e. you can not see what you are moving on the tablets, you have to look at the monitor...
Or maybe Im missing something... was this in QC 1.0?
Originally posted by onlooker
Can you say....... Photoshop, Painter, or WACOM. You've never used any of these have you?
Actually Im a graphic designer and I have and do use them. However, I have not seen this as a feature before. In addition I would add that using an Art Tablet is not a common thing. I have a degree in Art and know a lot of artist of all mediums and not one of them use a Tablet. Im not saying that its not the possible use of the QC controller - just that its interesting that its included in QC and it would be even more interesting if it was to be used for a Tablet.
I used an Art Tablet in college and hated it. I would much prefer to draw on paper and then scan it for further use. That or Illustrator. IMO they don't work well because you don't get the visual on the tablet.
Originally posted by FreeState
I used an Art Tablet in college and hated it. I would much prefer to draw on paper and then scan it for further use. That or Illustrator. IMO they don't work well because you don't get the visual on the tablet.
i agree. i'm an art director and have used a tablet to do retouching and drawing maybe 10 times in my 12 year career. i simply don't like them because there's too much dis-assocation between where i'm drawing and where that drawing is taking effect. plus, i really don't like that the screen is mapped absolutely to the tablet's surface. if i want to pull down a menu, i don't want to have to extend my arm all the way to the top of the tablet in order to do it.
i do know a lot of people who use them, but of the artists/graphic designers i know, probably only 1-2% of them use a tablet regularly.
Originally posted by Yankeedoodle
What if...
... all those Intel boxes in Apple's back yard are just Intel's home delivery drivers bringing round a new slew of chips for Wireless USB? Not a switch in processor technologies, but a switch in peripheral concepts -- including but not limited to a switch from FireWire to new USB standards... Go, think!
you seem to be posting this on every forum and thread i visit. do you know something or are you just after the attention?
Yes, Intel does now own the ARM design, but they call it something else these days, I don't remember what. Such a chip might be good for a video iPod, or a PDA.
As for Transitive's technology, I don't believe a word of it. I don't think it works. There is no 'silver bullet' to emulation.
RISC was good as far as it went, but I'd like to think the future in processors is to make them even more complex, with context-switchable instruction sets, even problem-optimized instruction sets. Due to the RISC detour, nobody's been working on that for some time.
I'm very tired of everyone jumping on any rumor that says 'tablet' and throwing out all the same old ideas again. By now, AppleInsider must have gigabytes of tablet threads.
Nokia press release
Nokia images
Its a Nokia internet tablet, 4" screen, Linux OS with an Opera browser (looks like a web kiosk display on the screen.), bluetooth, wifi and card slot. $350 expected price late this year.
So what about an Apple web browser tablet. Maybe running in a similar way to this as a browser with flash storage when away from your mac, then acting as the portable display tablet for your mac when you're within wifi distance, or even remotely if you're at some other hotspot area.
I'd buy one!
Originally posted by rongold
Hmmm... just out of curiosity, if I was to do a search, what terms would I use?
You could try to wade through all of Kormac's posts, or decipher the cryptic predictions of Codename. All that's a difficult task, however, but both contained discussions of just such a device. Just to prove the idea has been discussed here many times, here's a couple of links.
Check out DaveGee's 2001 quote from Shane Anderson in this thread Dolphin
Also iPad
There's plenty of speculation on this in countless ancient threads. I still maintain that the product you are now taking credit for was actually designed by the AppleInsider brain trust. Steve read every word and maybe even egged us on under the guise of Kormac and Codename.
Tablet-like, handheld that runs on Intel's ARM with BT, Wifi, and will eventually support VoIP.
Now imagine if it was elegant in interface and experience. Newton 2 anyone?
http://www.wacom.com/lcdtablets/index.cfm
I have on and have been using it for about two years now. It was expensive but it works very well
Originally posted by spliff monkey
admactanium and FreeState obviously haven't seen the Wacom Cintiq Tablets
http://www.wacom.com/lcdtablets/index.cfm
I have on and have been using it for about two years now. It was expensive but it works very well
i've seen them. i also realize that it takes time to learn to use a trackpad just like it takes time to learn trackballs. but i have no issues using mice, so i never switched. i paint and draw with a mouse without any issue. so i don't miss using a tablet at all. in fact, i'm probably more efficient with a mouse now than anything else.
The currency rate between US and Aus sucks right now huh? I guess we can do paypal or whatever works.
PM me, cheers :-D
Originally posted by benjamin_r
Your on...