This is my first post here. I swithed a year ago with a mac mini and loved it. Last week I talked my girlfriend into buying a 17inch imac core duo and I must say its amazing.
I do however miss certain apps from XP so I have managed to follow Narf's instuctions to dual boot.
Its the fastest that I have seen XP go !
I do know that I will be using Tiger 95% of the time but its nice to have the choice.
I thought that i'd let you guys know that it does work well.
I wonder how Microsoft is feeling about all this. I mean, knowing VPC runs on the PowerPC processors, they're obviously okay with their OS running on a mac (hey, they're gonna cling to whatever revenue they can get) but with all the modifications you have to do to XP to get it to run on an Intel mac... could lead to a bit of conflict...
I wonder how Microsoft is feeling about all this. I mean, knowing VPC runs on the PowerPC processors, they're obviously okay with their OS running on a mac (hey, they're gonna cling to whatever revenue they can get) but with all the modifications you have to do to XP to get it to run on an Intel mac... could lead to a bit of conflict...
That's true, it could. But, it depends on what they're doing. They seem to be modifying the boot loader, not the OS itself. If that's so, then it might not be a problem for MS.
In fact, if that's all it really requires, it's possible that MS might decide to offer that themselves. If so, it wouldn't require that another PC be involved. Even if they don't, others might come up with a way around that, that doesn't actually involve modifying any of MS's code?now that they know how it can be done.
Also, for those about to try this, the lack of a video driver for the 1600 is only a problem if you are going to play 3D games, or do work that involves 3D transformations.
For 2D work, it seems to be just fine. The performance doesn't "jump out" at you, but it's quite usable. A friend did this, and it's surprising at just how fast even the video is after using VPC. No comparison at all!
Audio works through the headphone out, so all is not lost there either.
I suspect that by the time the developers convention rolls around, most, if not all of these problems will have been solved.
Anybody know if Service Pack 4 (SP4) can be used instead of (SP2) ??? I'm gonna try and make a slipstream CD. Problem is, I got no Macintel to test it on
Anybody know if Service Pack 4 (SP4) can be used instead of (SP2) ??? I'm gonna try and make a slipstream CD. Problem is, I got no Macintel to test it on
I would expect a Mac App will eventually be released that will handle the entire process, including slipstreaming an XP CD and partitioning your HD. Its not here yet, but a shareware developer could get pretty far with this or at least parts of the process.
I think that if Windows users actually start using a setup like this, they will less and less frequently boot in to Windows and will become full Mac converts if they can.
Well there?s really some tremendous potential here, isn?t there. The only danger is some legal smackdown, however senseless, from the big boys (well, Microsoft, because Apple has publicly said it doesn?t care).
I would expect a Mac App will eventually be released that will handle the entire process, including slipstreaming an XP CD and partitioning your HD. Its not here yet, but a shareware developer could get pretty far with this or at least parts of the process.
Rightly so. A simple GUI that guides you through the whole process step by step. All you'll need is XP install disks and maybe an external HD to keep the systems separate. It would be nice to be able to run Office XP now and again.
Anybody know if Service Pack 4 (SP4) can be used instead of (SP2) ??? I'm gonna try and make a slipstream CD. Problem is, I got no Macintel to test it on
I'm pretty sure that by the time the new PowerMac equivalent comes out later this year, and possibly a fair amount sooner (perhaps in time for the dev conf), most of these problems will be solved. There is already a section on Sourceforge that is being setup that will be devoted to this issue.
You just know that there are a lot of open source programmers on both the Mac AND PC side that will be working on this.
This might be the first time that both Mac and PC people have the same goal!
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Originally posted by melgross
MS licenses Vindows for just one machine. After installing, it either calls home to register, or you have to do it manually.
The question is whether this was a new purchase, or one that was already installed somewhere else.
You are allowed to reverse engineer a product to get it to work with something else, but you are not allowed to install it on two machines.
It's tough to know what MS would say if this was a new purchase.
they should get real excited about all the new sales of winblows...
Originally posted by ibuzz
they should get real excited about all the new sales of winblows...
Yeah, exactly.
This is my first post here. I swithed a year ago with a mac mini and loved it. Last week I talked my girlfriend into buying a 17inch imac core duo and I must say its amazing.
I do however miss certain apps from XP so I have managed to follow Narf's instuctions to dual boot.
Its the fastest that I have seen XP go !
I do know that I will be using Tiger 95% of the time but its nice to have the choice.
I thought that i'd let you guys know that it does work well.
Thanks
Good luck.
Originally posted by MiG
I wonder how Microsoft is feeling about all this. I mean, knowing VPC runs on the PowerPC processors, they're obviously okay with their OS running on a mac (hey, they're gonna cling to whatever revenue they can get) but with all the modifications you have to do to XP to get it to run on an Intel mac... could lead to a bit of conflict...
That's true, it could. But, it depends on what they're doing. They seem to be modifying the boot loader, not the OS itself. If that's so, then it might not be a problem for MS.
In fact, if that's all it really requires, it's possible that MS might decide to offer that themselves. If so, it wouldn't require that another PC be involved. Even if they don't, others might come up with a way around that, that doesn't actually involve modifying any of MS's code?now that they know how it can be done.
Also, for those about to try this, the lack of a video driver for the 1600 is only a problem if you are going to play 3D games, or do work that involves 3D transformations.
For 2D work, it seems to be just fine. The performance doesn't "jump out" at you, but it's quite usable. A friend did this, and it's surprising at just how fast even the video is after using VPC. No comparison at all!
Audio works through the headphone out, so all is not lost there either.
I suspect that by the time the developers convention rolls around, most, if not all of these problems will have been solved.
Originally posted by sunilraman
Anybody know if Service Pack 4 (SP4) can be used instead of (SP2) ??? I'm gonna try and make a slipstream CD. Problem is, I got no Macintel to test it on
You seem to putting the cart before the horse.
I think that if Windows users actually start using a setup like this, they will less and less frequently boot in to Windows and will become full Mac converts if they can.
Originally posted by Xool
I would expect a Mac App will eventually be released that will handle the entire process, including slipstreaming an XP CD and partitioning your HD. Its not here yet, but a shareware developer could get pretty far with this or at least parts of the process.
Rightly so. A simple GUI that guides you through the whole process step by step. All you'll need is XP install disks and maybe an external HD to keep the systems separate. It would be nice to be able to run Office XP now and again.
Originally posted by sunilraman
Well there?s really some tremendous potential here, isn?t there.
Without a doubt.
Originally posted by sunilraman
Anybody know if Service Pack 4 (SP4) can be used instead of (SP2) ??? I'm gonna try and make a slipstream CD. Problem is, I got no Macintel to test it on
There is no XP service pack 4 that I've heard.
Originally posted by JeffDM
There is no XP service pack 4 that I've heard.
He must be talking about Win2k. XP is on SP2.
You just know that there are a lot of open source programmers on both the Mac AND PC side that will be working on this.
This might be the first time that both Mac and PC people have the same goal!
He must be talking about Win2k. XP is on SP2.
*slaps head* duh. okay, you are right there..... my neighbour still has my Win XP cd!! arghhgh ... but i don't have a macintel anyway so, ah well....
Originally posted by sunilraman
Originally posted by groverat
He must be talking about Win2k. XP is on SP2.
*slaps head* duh. okay, you are right there..... my neighbour still has my Win XP cd!! arghhgh ... but i don't have a macintel anyway so, ah well....
You better get yourself back in the jungle. you were doing better there!
Originally posted by melgross
You just know that there are a lot of open source programmers on both the Mac AND PC side that will be working on this.
Oh, open source? They suck.