That would defeat the point of a consumer laptop and enters the pro range.
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i hate losing an inch! sony has a 14 inch widescreen with a camera!!! dammit apple do the right thing.
Some people complain Apple should make one even smaller. 13.3 actually fills a good point. Its small, but not so small that normal laptop features have to be compromised.
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i think we will see all duo, the core solo was a bit of a waste of time, no one really wants it.
There's a give and take to everything. Solo Core would generate less heat and require less power for a longer battery life. Plus $999 price point would have to be solo core.
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Does anyone know if intels virtualizattion technology require dual core chips? More specifically, would Parallels software work on a core solo macbook?
It does and it wouldn´t.
Yet another reason to skip core solo.
I wouldn't wager that virtualization is high on Apples priority list. Especially for its consumer laptop.
Ha... well I've been registered and posting at MacNN forums forever...
I had to set the man straight before he gets people worried that they can't virutalize with parralels' SW on a Solo.
Before the smackdown is layeth on Anders:
Ahh ... but have you tried in on a Core Solo Mini? There's a checkbox in the Parallels' software for enabling Intel VT support. I'd like to know if that check box works on a Core Solo.
Ahh ... but have you tried in on a Core Solo Mini? There's a checkbox in the Parallels' software for enabling Intel VT support. I'd like to know if that check box works on a Core Solo.
It doesn't. Parallels reports that your chip has Intel VT-x support but its disabled in the BIOS.
Whether this is due to Apple disabling it or VT-x being fundamentally broken on a Core Solo is up for debate.
Only his second post, and he's pulling out the "ummm" card on Anders!
Now it's on!
Nah thats okay. I was under the impression Parallels used Intels hardware virtualization and it only was implemented in Core Duo chips. Sorry if I gave wrong information.
This is logical in that is the current iBook set up.
But I've seen no evidence that Intel GMA offers mini DVI.
Wouldn't it cost more for Intel to manufacture separate chip sets for Apple to offer mini DVI?
edit: in a google search anything about mini DV was mostly about 12" PowerBooks and iBooks. Looks as if no one in the rest of the industry deals with it.
That would defeat the point of a consumer laptop and enters the pro range.
Thank you for telling me as a consumer myself what I need. Last time I checked you don't see many people gaming while at work. I don't know many programmers that get paid to play css
or graphic designers that make their big bucks playing oblivion.
x1600 is a midrange graphics card. It is not their high end card by any means.
I don't know why there needs to be such titles as professional and consumer. I think that is a snoody way to say metal case or plastic case. Let me ask you this, who has the most powerful computer you know? Is it a programmer, graphic designer or film editor? More than likely its a geeky teenager who plays wow or cs:s.
If I wanted a high-end card, i'd expect a mobile 7800 or a mobile x1800. I want a dual-core machine that can play games and fill the spot the 12" mbp would have.
This is logical in that is the current iBook set up.
But I've seen no evidence that Intel GMA offers mini DVI.
Wouldn't it cost more for Intel to manufacture separate chip sets for Apple to offer mini DVI?
edit: in a google search anything about mini DV was mostly about 12" PowerBooks and iBooks. Looks as if no one in the rest of the industry deals with it.
This seems really unlikely since they appear to be differentiating the two mbp and mb using specs instead of features. It'll be DVI-out with spanning support.
This is logical in that is the current iBook set up.
But I've seen no evidence that Intel GMA offers mini DVI.
Wouldn't it cost more for Intel to manufacture separate chip sets for Apple to offer mini DVI?
edit: in a google search anything about mini DV was mostly about 12" PowerBooks and iBooks. Looks as if no one in the rest of the industry deals with it.
Is there any difference between DVI and mini-DVI apart from the size of the plug/socket?
The GMA 950 supports DVI (as seen on the Mac Mini) as would any modern GFX chip, so I would expect it to support mini-DVI as well.
They want "mac" in the names of all of their computers. They didn't change the name of the iMac because "Mac" was already in the name so there wasn't really any reason to. Besides, what would they change it to? MacMac?
If I wanted a high-end card, i'd expect a mobile 7800 or a mobile x1800. I want a dual-core machine that can play games and fill the spot the 12" mbp would have.
You won't be getting that with a MacBook. Buy a MacBook Pro.
I don't believe the iBook replacement will have an iSight camera - the main reason being the ibook has always been aimed at a laptop for education and with the current (in my opinion petty) views on cameras in schools, i doubt they would be available with built in cameras.
I don't know why there needs to be such titles as professional and consumer. I think that is a snoody way to say metal case or plastic case.
Every computer manufacturer separate product lines that suite different needs. Apple has it down to two basic product lines.
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Let me ask you this, who has the most powerful computer you know? Is it a programmer, graphic designer or film editor? More than likely its a geeky teenager who plays wow or cs:s.
I don't understand your point with this.
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If I wanted a high-end card, i'd expect a mobile 7800 or a mobile x1800. I want a dual-core machine that can play games and fill the spot the 12" mbp would have.
The tag "high end card" is such a sliding scale its almost meaningless. By the end of the year the x1800 will be a midrange card.
Apple cannot fill the wants of every individual user. Apple looks over the needs of its the general user base and has to weigh different variables.
What consumers need/ what consumers will pay/ the cost of manufacture/ profit margins.
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Is there any difference between DVI and mini-DVI apart from the size of the plug/socket?
Intel is efficiently producing 99.8% of its GMA chip sets with a full DVI output. Apple orders .2% of its GMA chip sets for a mini DVI output breaks the efficiency of the line. That's going to cost more money to artificially create a difference between the MacBook and MB Pro.
They want "mac" in the names of all of their computers. They didn't change the name of the iMac because "Mac" was already in the name so there wasn't really any reason to. Besides, what would they change it to? MacMac?
How long until they discover they now need to rename the iPod to... the MacPod!!!
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hopefully they make one with an x1600 for 1500!!
That would defeat the point of a consumer laptop and enters the pro range.
i hate losing an inch! sony has a 14 inch widescreen with a camera!!! dammit apple do the right thing.
Some people complain Apple should make one even smaller. 13.3 actually fills a good point. Its small, but not so small that normal laptop features have to be compromised.
i think we will see all duo, the core solo was a bit of a waste of time, no one really wants it.
There's a give and take to everything. Solo Core would generate less heat and require less power for a longer battery life. Plus $999 price point would have to be solo core.
Does anyone know if intels virtualizattion technology require dual core chips? More specifically, would Parallels software work on a core solo macbook?
It does and it wouldn´t.
Yet another reason to skip core solo.
I wouldn't wager that virtualization is high on Apples priority list. Especially for its consumer laptop.
All core duo, varying speeds.
all 512 MB ram
all integrated graphics (to seperate the Pro line)
all iSight
all 13.3 inch display
all mini DVI, mirror only
Low end $899-1099
60 GB hdd
combo drive
High end. (low end+200)
80GB hdd
superdrive
frontrow remote
Originally posted by ATPTourFan
Ha... well I've been registered and posting at MacNN forums forever...
I had to set the man straight before he gets people worried that they can't virutalize with parralels' SW on a Solo.
Before the smackdown is layeth on Anders:
Ahh ... but have you tried in on a Core Solo Mini? There's a checkbox in the Parallels' software for enabling Intel VT support. I'd like to know if that check box works on a Core Solo.
Originally posted by Anders
It does and it wouldn´t.
Funny, I was running Parallels on my Mac mini Core Solo just last night. I must have been imagining things I guess!
Originally posted by audiopollution
Before the smackdown is layeth on Anders:
Ahh ... but have you tried in on a Core Solo Mini? There's a checkbox in the Parallels' software for enabling Intel VT support. I'd like to know if that check box works on a Core Solo.
It doesn't. Parallels reports that your chip has Intel VT-x support but its disabled in the BIOS.
Whether this is due to Apple disabling it or VT-x being fundamentally broken on a Core Solo is up for debate.
Originally posted by a_greer
My prediction:
All core duo, varying speeds.
all 512 MB ram
all integrated graphics (to seperate the Pro line)
all iSight
all 13.3 inch display
all mini DVI, mirror only
Low end $899-1099
60 GB hdd
combo drive
High end. (low end+200)
80GB hdd
superdrive
frontrow remote
frontrow will be in all the new macs that are released.
Originally posted by wilco
Only his second post, and he's pulling out the "ummm" card on Anders!
Now it's on!
all mini DVI, mirror only
This is logical in that is the current iBook set up.
But I've seen no evidence that Intel GMA offers mini DVI.
Wouldn't it cost more for Intel to manufacture separate chip sets for Apple to offer mini DVI?
edit: in a google search anything about mini DV was mostly about 12" PowerBooks and iBooks. Looks as if no one in the rest of the industry deals with it.
Originally posted by TenoBell
That would defeat the point of a consumer laptop and enters the pro range.
Thank you for telling me as a consumer myself what I need. Last time I checked you don't see many people gaming while at work. I don't know many programmers that get paid to play css
or graphic designers that make their big bucks playing oblivion.
x1600 is a midrange graphics card. It is not their high end card by any means.
I don't know why there needs to be such titles as professional and consumer. I think that is a snoody way to say metal case or plastic case. Let me ask you this, who has the most powerful computer you know? Is it a programmer, graphic designer or film editor? More than likely its a geeky teenager who plays wow or cs:s.
If I wanted a high-end card, i'd expect a mobile 7800 or a mobile x1800. I want a dual-core machine that can play games and fill the spot the 12" mbp would have.
Originally posted by TenoBell
This is logical in that is the current iBook set up.
But I've seen no evidence that Intel GMA offers mini DVI.
Wouldn't it cost more for Intel to manufacture separate chip sets for Apple to offer mini DVI?
edit: in a google search anything about mini DV was mostly about 12" PowerBooks and iBooks. Looks as if no one in the rest of the industry deals with it.
This seems really unlikely since they appear to be differentiating the two mbp and mb using specs instead of features. It'll be DVI-out with spanning support.
Originally posted by TenoBell
This is logical in that is the current iBook set up.
But I've seen no evidence that Intel GMA offers mini DVI.
Wouldn't it cost more for Intel to manufacture separate chip sets for Apple to offer mini DVI?
edit: in a google search anything about mini DV was mostly about 12" PowerBooks and iBooks. Looks as if no one in the rest of the industry deals with it.
Is there any difference between DVI and mini-DVI apart from the size of the plug/socket?
The GMA 950 supports DVI (as seen on the Mac Mini) as would any modern GFX chip, so I would expect it to support mini-DVI as well.
Originally posted by Lust
They want "mac" in the names of all of their computers. They didn't change the name of the iMac because "Mac" was already in the name so there wasn't really any reason to. Besides, what would they change it to? MacMac?
hahaha @ MacMac
Originally posted by tensdanny38
If I wanted a high-end card, i'd expect a mobile 7800 or a mobile x1800. I want a dual-core machine that can play games and fill the spot the 12" mbp would have.
You won't be getting that with a MacBook. Buy a MacBook Pro.
I don't know why there needs to be such titles as professional and consumer. I think that is a snoody way to say metal case or plastic case.
Every computer manufacturer separate product lines that suite different needs. Apple has it down to two basic product lines.
Let me ask you this, who has the most powerful computer you know? Is it a programmer, graphic designer or film editor? More than likely its a geeky teenager who plays wow or cs:s.
I don't understand your point with this.
If I wanted a high-end card, i'd expect a mobile 7800 or a mobile x1800. I want a dual-core machine that can play games and fill the spot the 12" mbp would have.
The tag "high end card" is such a sliding scale its almost meaningless. By the end of the year the x1800 will be a midrange card.
Apple cannot fill the wants of every individual user. Apple looks over the needs of its the general user base and has to weigh different variables.
What consumers need/ what consumers will pay/ the cost of manufacture/ profit margins.
Is there any difference between DVI and mini-DVI apart from the size of the plug/socket?
Intel is efficiently producing 99.8% of its GMA chip sets with a full DVI output. Apple orders .2% of its GMA chip sets for a mini DVI output breaks the efficiency of the line. That's going to cost more money to artificially create a difference between the MacBook and MB Pro.
I don't believe the iBook replacement will have an iSight camera
Yes it will.
Apple is selling MacBooks to more than just education. They should however offer computers without iSight to those who need them that way.
Originally posted by TenoBell
Yes it will.
Apple is selling MacBooks to more than just education. They should however offer computers without iSight to those who need them that way.
The easy solution:
Stick one of those over it. Voila.
For a more sturdy solution:
And if you *REALLY* want it gone...
Originally posted by a_greer
My prediction:
I think the low end one may be Core solo, same as the Mini. Other than that, I'm with you on the rest of your prediction.
Originally posted by Lust
They want "mac" in the names of all of their computers. They didn't change the name of the iMac because "Mac" was already in the name so there wasn't really any reason to. Besides, what would they change it to? MacMac?
How long until they discover they now need to rename the iPod to... the MacPod!!!