Please let this thread know if the new version has the left and right buttons issue fixed, e.g. if you can click either one while leaving all fingers on the mouse.
From the official Apple page, it sure looks like there are two click sensors in front now...
I'll let you know personally, no problem. I know what issue your on about, it doesn't bother me as I naturally lift and click, but the less issues the better.
What do you mean by this though>> "it sure looks like there are two click sensors in front now" ?
No, I mean if Boot Camp doesn't have those drivers yet - or if they want to sell to an actual PC.
You said the magic word ? yet.
Unlike the camera, I can't see Apple not allowing this to work on a Mac with Windows installed. People would get pissed off if they had to get another wireless mouse, or any mouse. Particularly if they sell this as an option for a new machine.
It may take a little while, but I'm pretty sure it will be done.
That was in reference to MP3 players - my bluetooth keyboard is used for at least a couple of hours every day ands gets through only 4 batteries (one set) a year. Although - a chargeable system would be better - but more expensive.
I tried different types of chargable batteries, but none lasted terribly long. The problem is that except for lithium, they all self discharge too quickly. Even if the keyboard isn't being used, they go in a couple of weeks or so.
My batteries last a little over a half year. do you leave yours on, or turn it off? I leave mine on.
I tried different types of chargable batteries, but none lasted terribly long. The problem is that except for lithium, they all self discharge too quickly. Even if the keyboard isn't being used, they go in a couple of weeks or so.
My batteries last a little over a half year. do you leave yours on, or turn it off? I leave mine on.
I turn my BT keyboard off when I'm not using it and after 9 months I'm still on the original batteries that came with it when I bought it.
Why leave it on when your not there?
When I come back I just turn the keyboard on, wait like 1 second and press any key to wake up my mac, simple and saves battery power.
The BT mouse and keyboard turn themselves off if you leave them alone. The problem is that rechargeable batteries discharge themselves even when switched off.
It's no big deal though. I've a couple of sets. When the battery indicator says it's low, I stick a set on fast charge and usually before the existing set has run out, I've a fresh pair ready. Since I'm usually using a keyboard/mouse 10+ hours a day, 7 days a week, it's a well practised ritual.
Why make someone re-download boot camp when you can ship them the drivers on the CDs? I mean, it seems like a waste, because people will get the updated Boot Camp not knowing what it does, and people who buy the mouse might not even know BC was updated. Ship the Windows drivers with the mouse, save time & bandwidth.
Why make someone re-download boot camp when you can ship them the drivers on the CDs? I mean, it seems like a waste, because people will get the updated Boot Camp not knowing what it does, and people who buy the mouse might not even know BC was updated. Ship the Windows drivers with the mouse, save time & bandwidth.
All I meant by that was that it may take time for them to develop those drivers, assuming that they will.
How they distribute them is something else, and is anyones guess.
Considering Bootcamp is beta and it's not even certain Apple will use it in Leopard, shipping Windows drivers with the mouse would seem the lowest of priorities.
Considering Bootcamp is beta and it's not even certain Apple will use it in Leopard, shipping Windows drivers with the mouse would seem the lowest of priorities.
Apple have said the final version of BootCamp will be in Leopard - they generally keep their promises about software features.
"Apple will include technology in the next major release of Mac OS X, Leopard, that lets you install and run the Windows XP operating system on your Mac. Called Boot Camp (for now), you can download a public beta today."
That does not say that they will include Boot Camp. It says they will include a solution to let you run Windows but that isn't necessarily Boot Camp. Read between the lines. It leaves the door open for them including virtualization instead of having to reboot.
"Apple will include technology in the next major release of Mac OS X, Leopard, that lets you install and run the Windows XP operating system on your Mac. Called Boot Camp (for now), you can download a public beta today."
That does not say that they will include Boot Camp. It says they will include a solution to let you run Windows but that isn't necessarily Boot Camp. Read between the lines. It leaves the door open for them including virtualization instead of having to reboot.
Yes it does - it says Apple will include the technology in the Leopard
I believe they also said a few weeks ago (correct me if I'm wrong), that Leopard will NOT have any virtualization software, which would cause me to believe that they will simply be rebranding/finalizing Boot Camp.
I believe they also said a few weeks ago (correct me if I'm wrong), that Leopard will NOT have any virtualization software, which would cause me to believe that they will simply be rebranding/finalizing Boot Camp.
And Phil also said Apple wouldn't be supporting Windows on the Mac AT ALL...
"After Jobs' presentation, Apple Senior Vice President Phil Schiller addressed the issue of running Windows on Macs, saying there are no plans to sell or support Windows on an Intel-based Mac. "That doesn't preclude someone from running it on a Mac. They probably will," he said. "We won't do anything to preclude that.""
The Boot Camp page says they will include technology to allow running Windows on your Mac. It doesn't say Boot Camp is THE technology. So, IMO, be ready for Phil to eat his words again.
"Apple will include technology in the next major release of Mac OS X, Leopard, that lets you install and run the Windows XP operating system on your Mac. Called Boot Camp (for now), you can download a public beta today."
That does not say that they will include Boot Camp. It says they will include a solution to let you run Windows but that isn't necessarily Boot Camp. Read between the lines. It leaves the door open for them including virtualization instead of having to reboot.
And Phil also said Apple wouldn't be supporting Windows on the Mac AT ALL...
"After Jobs' presentation, Apple Senior Vice President Phil Schiller addressed the issue of running Windows on Macs, saying there are no plans to sell or support Windows on an Intel-based Mac. "That doesn't preclude someone from running it on a Mac. They probably will," he said. "We won't do anything to preclude that.""
The Boot Camp page says they will include technology to allow running Windows on your Mac. It doesn't say Boot Camp is THE technology. So, IMO, be ready for Phil to eat his words again.
Phil's statement was far more nebulous than the statement about Boot Camp. Boot Camp does not mean that Apple is SUPPORTING Windows, it just means that they are providing means for it to run ? a far different matter. Support means that they will actively help when someone has problems with Windows, again, completely different.
Even if they sell Windows in their stores, and on the website, it doesn't mean that Apple is supporting it. That will be left to MS, as that is what they do with the retail versions.
Apple would have to bundle windows with the Mac, or some other program to have to support it.
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Originally posted by nikster
Please let this thread know if the new version has the left and right buttons issue fixed, e.g. if you can click either one while leaving all fingers on the mouse.
From the official Apple page, it sure looks like there are two click sensors in front now...
I'll let you know personally, no problem. I know what issue your on about, it doesn't bother me as I naturally lift and click, but the less issues the better.
What do you mean by this though>> "it sure looks like there are two click sensors in front now" ?
Originally posted by ZachPruckowski
No, I mean if Boot Camp doesn't have those drivers yet - or if they want to sell to an actual PC.
You said the magic word ? yet.
Unlike the camera, I can't see Apple not allowing this to work on a Mac with Windows installed. People would get pissed off if they had to get another wireless mouse, or any mouse. Particularly if they sell this as an option for a new machine.
It may take a little while, but I'm pretty sure it will be done.
Originally posted by MacCrazy
That was in reference to MP3 players - my bluetooth keyboard is used for at least a couple of hours every day ands gets through only 4 batteries (one set) a year. Although - a chargeable system would be better - but more expensive.
I tried different types of chargable batteries, but none lasted terribly long. The problem is that except for lithium, they all self discharge too quickly. Even if the keyboard isn't being used, they go in a couple of weeks or so.
My batteries last a little over a half year. do you leave yours on, or turn it off? I leave mine on.
Originally posted by verucabong
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Originally posted by melgross
I tried different types of chargable batteries, but none lasted terribly long. The problem is that except for lithium, they all self discharge too quickly. Even if the keyboard isn't being used, they go in a couple of weeks or so.
My batteries last a little over a half year. do you leave yours on, or turn it off? I leave mine on.
I turn my BT keyboard off when I'm not using it and after 9 months I'm still on the original batteries that came with it when I bought it.
Why leave it on when your not there?
When I come back I just turn the keyboard on, wait like 1 second and press any key to wake up my mac, simple and saves battery power.
It's no big deal though. I've a couple of sets. When the battery indicator says it's low, I stick a set on fast charge and usually before the existing set has run out, I've a fresh pair ready. Since I'm usually using a keyboard/mouse 10+ hours a day, 7 days a week, it's a well practised ritual.
Originally posted by ecking
Why leave it on when your not there?
Lazyness!
Originally posted by melgross
You said the magic word ? yet.
Why make someone re-download boot camp when you can ship them the drivers on the CDs? I mean, it seems like a waste, because people will get the updated Boot Camp not knowing what it does, and people who buy the mouse might not even know BC was updated. Ship the Windows drivers with the mouse, save time & bandwidth.
Originally posted by ZachPruckowski
Why make someone re-download boot camp when you can ship them the drivers on the CDs? I mean, it seems like a waste, because people will get the updated Boot Camp not knowing what it does, and people who buy the mouse might not even know BC was updated. Ship the Windows drivers with the mouse, save time & bandwidth.
All I meant by that was that it may take time for them to develop those drivers, assuming that they will.
How they distribute them is something else, and is anyones guess.
Originally posted by aegisdesign
Considering Bootcamp is beta and it's not even certain Apple will use it in Leopard, shipping Windows drivers with the mouse would seem the lowest of priorities.
Apple have said the final version of BootCamp will be in Leopard - they generally keep their promises about software features.
Originally posted by MacCrazy
Apple have said the final version of BootCamp will be in Leopard - they generally keep their promises about software features.
No they have not.
http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
"Apple will include technology in the next major release of Mac OS X, Leopard, that lets you install and run the Windows XP operating system on your Mac. Called Boot Camp (for now), you can download a public beta today."
That does not say that they will include Boot Camp. It says they will include a solution to let you run Windows but that isn't necessarily Boot Camp. Read between the lines. It leaves the door open for them including virtualization instead of having to reboot.
Originally posted by aegisdesign
Read between the lines.
Perhaps you are reading too much between the lines, because in the same way their quote
Called Boot Camp (for now), you can download a public beta today.
would mean that they intend to finalize Boot Camp for Leopard and include it (probably under another name) as a Windows solution on a Mac.
Originally posted by PB
Perhaps you are reading too much between the lines, because in the same way their quote
would mean that they intend to finalize Boot Camp for Leopard and include it (probably under another name) as a Windows solution on a Mac.
Yes, so either way, they won't be including Boot Camp, it'll be something else.
Originally posted by aegisdesign
No they have not.
http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
"Apple will include technology in the next major release of Mac OS X, Leopard, that lets you install and run the Windows XP operating system on your Mac. Called Boot Camp (for now), you can download a public beta today."
That does not say that they will include Boot Camp. It says they will include a solution to let you run Windows but that isn't necessarily Boot Camp. Read between the lines. It leaves the door open for them including virtualization instead of having to reboot.
Yes it does - it says Apple will include the technology in the Leopard
Originally posted by mynamehere
I believe they also said a few weeks ago (correct me if I'm wrong), that Leopard will NOT have any virtualization software, which would cause me to believe that they will simply be rebranding/finalizing Boot Camp.
Yes.
Originally posted by PB
Yes.
And Phil also said Apple wouldn't be supporting Windows on the Mac AT ALL...
"After Jobs' presentation, Apple Senior Vice President Phil Schiller addressed the issue of running Windows on Macs, saying there are no plans to sell or support Windows on an Intel-based Mac. "That doesn't preclude someone from running it on a Mac. They probably will," he said. "We won't do anything to preclude that.""
http://news.com.com/Apple+throws+the...3-5733756.html
The Boot Camp page says they will include technology to allow running Windows on your Mac. It doesn't say Boot Camp is THE technology. So, IMO, be ready for Phil to eat his words again.
Originally posted by aegisdesign
No they have not.
http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
"Apple will include technology in the next major release of Mac OS X, Leopard, that lets you install and run the Windows XP operating system on your Mac. Called Boot Camp (for now), you can download a public beta today."
That does not say that they will include Boot Camp. It says they will include a solution to let you run Windows but that isn't necessarily Boot Camp. Read between the lines. It leaves the door open for them including virtualization instead of having to reboot.
It says exactly that. How can you not agree?
Originally posted by aegisdesign
And Phil also said Apple wouldn't be supporting Windows on the Mac AT ALL...
"After Jobs' presentation, Apple Senior Vice President Phil Schiller addressed the issue of running Windows on Macs, saying there are no plans to sell or support Windows on an Intel-based Mac. "That doesn't preclude someone from running it on a Mac. They probably will," he said. "We won't do anything to preclude that.""
http://news.com.com/Apple+throws+the...3-5733756.html
The Boot Camp page says they will include technology to allow running Windows on your Mac. It doesn't say Boot Camp is THE technology. So, IMO, be ready for Phil to eat his words again.
Phil's statement was far more nebulous than the statement about Boot Camp. Boot Camp does not mean that Apple is SUPPORTING Windows, it just means that they are providing means for it to run ? a far different matter. Support means that they will actively help when someone has problems with Windows, again, completely different.
Even if they sell Windows in their stores, and on the website, it doesn't mean that Apple is supporting it. That will be left to MS, as that is what they do with the retail versions.
Apple would have to bundle windows with the Mac, or some other program to have to support it.