Sunil, yeah, I know those companies. You don't have to be 15 going on 20 to know them. But most people here are not a PC fan as you are, or someone who is techie like I am , even with PC's, though I don't like them as much as you do.
It's just the opposite, the youngest readers are the least likely to be familiar with those companies, or the dozens of other do it yourself Taiwan, Korean, or Chinese based PC companies.
Mostly it's the readability of all those PC-hardware enthusiast sites. Just loads and loads of text, a lot of black and neon green with some yellow, at least 3 flashing boxes screaming at you that you either (a)won some lottery or (b)are now able to buy the latest 8880000GTXXXXULTRAMOTRF9KINGUBERBEASTLYTHING. For most Mac users, god bless you all, probably the breaking point are the 10-15 page reviews of a graphic cards, with each page containing like 8 charts at least.
They're useful - for example, after going through 80 charts, I know that card A @ 500mhz is actually going to give me an average of 2fps more at F.E.A.R at 4xAA 16AF over card B @ 510mhz. But apparently card B whoops card A's ass at Oblivion (0xAA 8XAF Medium settings), clocking a GPU-crunching 3fps more.
While we're spec-whoring I'd say... Just think of OSX 10.5 Leopard 64bit running on NForce590 chipset on Gigabyte DQ6-mobos with Conroe 6400 OC'ed with Zalman fan to 3.0ghz stable, X-Fi sound cards (let's give a nod to Creative for what it's worth), 12X or more DVDplusminus-RW, and a sweet nVidia 7950GT 512mb... Alongside 4GB RAM. Awwww yeah. 8)
Yeah, it'd be almost as nice as a Mac Pro yet give you hours of fun chasing down compatability issues and hacked drivers from people with L337 sounding handles. Then you can go on Mac forums and call people fanbois for otherwise having a life.
Yeah, it'd be almost as nice as a Mac Pro yet give you hours of fun chasing down compatability issues and hacked drivers from people with L337 sounding handles. Then you can go on Mac forums and call people fanbois for otherwise having a life.
Umm, no... I go on Mac forums and then get called a PC fanboi. Mac fandom is fine. I don't think I have really ever came out here and blasted people for being Macheads. Not in the past year, I'm definitely sure.
I take my kool-aid every night with my pills. (sounds sarcastic but actually I'm not being sarcastic).
Anyway, overall, nVidia is the brand to go with - nForce chipsets for motherboards, GeForce graphics cards, all have very excellent drivers and a very tiny registry tweak unlocks the built-in overclocking dialog box for the GPU. I wouldn't use a Creative X-Fi or whatever in reality, I haven't bought anything from them since the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_Blaster_AWE64
Macs, PCs, whatever, we got PPCs running VirtualPC Windows, Macs with Intels running Windows and Linux and Solaris and stuff with Parallels and VMWare... nVidias in Macs and PCs.... iPods and iTunes mainly for PCs... It's an orgy of cross-compatibility nowadays...
Yeah, it'd be almost as nice as a Mac Pro yet give you hours of fun chasing down compatability issues and hacked drivers from people with L337 sounding handles. Then you can go on Mac forums and call people fanbois for otherwise having a life.
I would prefer a Mac Pro 8) But after blowing out my credit card with a PowerPC G5 single and a 20" screen a few years ago and having to run back to mama and papa, the Mac Pro remains in the distance. Actually, it would be way overblown for what I got the G5 for originally, trying to produce trance dance music with Ableton Live, Rewire and Reason. With most of these Universal now an iMac core2 duo 20inch would be perfect. Also because I was figuring out how the frack I was going to take my music to gigs to perform live, lugging a bloody G5 around. iMac Core2Duo 20inch, 4-channel Behringer mixer, "DJ quality" Sony headphones, A nice 6-octave or so Midi Keyboard, a few small M-Audio external boxes, Sustain pedal, I'll be in the mix sweet.... One day... Reason and Live are fantastic dance music tools without the overcomplication (for me at least) of Logic. Dualcore CPUs, 24bit, 48khz, banging beats, thumping bass, and shivering trancedelic riffs.
I'm a fanboi... of LIFE. That sounds lame, huh....
Yeah, it'd be almost as nice as a Mac Pro yet give you hours of fun chasing down compatability issues and hacked drivers from people with L337 sounding handles. Then you can go on Mac forums and call people fanbois for otherwise having a life.
Yeah, that is the difference.
Sometimes it's a blessing not being able to do all of that. I can just get on with it.
Yeah, that is the difference...Sometimes it's a blessing not being able to do all of that. I can just get on with it.
Well, definitely from 2000-2005 my increased use of Macs helped me progressively produce better dance music and also got me higher-end web design/admin/production gigs.
I had to sell a lot of my Mac gear because of manic overspending over 2003-2004. Since the middle of 2005 my parents have had a hell of a lot of retirement arrangements to make so I've gradually let them use our/ their iBookG4 most of the time. Completely takes the headaches away from my brother and I when we used to have to help them use Windoze in the 90's.
The above is also the reason why I went AMD64 middle of 2005 through mid-2006 and am on a old Toshiba laptop lent to me by my cousin-in-law. Typing now on the iBook G4 for a while though, and it's just like, damn, Macs *are* sweet. PC for gaming and tinkering around (also fun) but Macs for when you need to *produce*. And for parents/ relatives/ friends so that you don't have to support them as much anymore. Also gMail is a f*king real blessing, I tells ya.
Oh, Melgross, congrats on the post-6000 mark. Looks like your notching up to 7000, you crazy bastard ...
Oh, was going to post here, can't wait for Leopard, even if its 10.5.0 - I'm sure it will run nice on this hardware, 5400rpm drive, G4 933mhz (don't laugh), at least the iBook's got 640MB RAM. It will be a nice move from 10.3.9 but it will take a little time to update the User stuff on 10.5.0. Maybe I'll wait till shipping discs are 10.5.3 or something. We'll see. I aim to get a legal copy of 10.5.0 (my 10.3.9 is legal, had a bit of dodginess with pirated 10.4)...
Oh, Melgross, congrats on the post-6000 mark. Looks like your notching up to 7000, you crazy bastard ...
Oh, was going to post here, can't wait for Leopard, even if its 10.5.0 - I'm sure it will run nice on this hardware, 5400rpm drive, G4 933mhz (don't laugh), at least the iBook's got 640MB RAM. It will be a nice move from 10.3.9 but it will take a little time to update the User stuff on 10.5.0. Maybe I'll wait till shipping discs are 10.5.3 or something. We'll see. I aim to get a legal copy of 10.5.0 (my 10.3.9 is legal, had a bit of dodginess with pirated 10.4)...
Thanks. I may be crazy, but I do know who my parents are.
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I'm no expert, just a specwhore some of the time...
I agree with you there.
Sunil, yeah, I know those companies. You don't have to be 15 going on 20 to know them. But most people here are not a PC fan as you are, or someone who is techie like I am , even with PC's, though I don't like them as much as you do.
It's just the opposite, the youngest readers are the least likely to be familiar with those companies, or the dozens of other do it yourself Taiwan, Korean, or Chinese based PC companies.
Mostly it's the readability of all those PC-hardware enthusiast sites. Just loads and loads of text, a lot of black and neon green with some yellow, at least 3 flashing boxes screaming at you that you either (a)won some lottery or (b)are now able to buy the latest 8880000GTXXXXULTRAMOTRF9KINGUBERBEASTLYTHING. For most Mac users, god bless you all, probably the breaking point are the 10-15 page reviews of a graphic cards, with each page containing like 8 charts at least.
They're useful - for example, after going through 80 charts, I know that card A @ 500mhz is actually going to give me an average of 2fps more at F.E.A.R at 4xAA 16AF over card B @ 510mhz. But apparently card B whoops card A's ass at Oblivion (0xAA 8XAF Medium settings), clocking a GPU-crunching 3fps more.
While we're spec-whoring I'd say... Just think of OSX 10.5 Leopard 64bit running on NForce590 chipset on Gigabyte DQ6-mobos with Conroe 6400 OC'ed with Zalman fan to 3.0ghz stable, X-Fi sound cards (let's give a nod to Creative for what it's worth), 12X or more DVDplusminus-RW, and a sweet nVidia 7950GT 512mb... Alongside 4GB RAM. Awwww yeah. 8)
Yeah, it'd be almost as nice as a Mac Pro yet give you hours of fun chasing down compatability issues and hacked drivers from people with L337 sounding handles. Then you can go on Mac forums and call people fanbois for otherwise having a life.
Yeah, it'd be almost as nice as a Mac Pro yet give you hours of fun chasing down compatability issues and hacked drivers from people with L337 sounding handles. Then you can go on Mac forums and call people fanbois for otherwise having a life.
Umm, no... I go on Mac forums and then get called a PC fanboi. Mac fandom is fine. I don't think I have really ever came out here and blasted people for being Macheads. Not in the past year, I'm definitely sure.
I take my kool-aid every night with my pills. (sounds sarcastic but actually I'm not being sarcastic).
Anyway, overall, nVidia is the brand to go with - nForce chipsets for motherboards, GeForce graphics cards, all have very excellent drivers and a very tiny registry tweak unlocks the built-in overclocking dialog box for the GPU. I wouldn't use a Creative X-Fi or whatever in reality, I haven't bought anything from them since the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_Blaster_AWE64
Macs, PCs, whatever, we got PPCs running VirtualPC Windows, Macs with Intels running Windows and Linux and Solaris and stuff with Parallels and VMWare... nVidias in Macs and PCs.... iPods and iTunes mainly for PCs... It's an orgy of cross-compatibility nowadays...
Yeah, it'd be almost as nice as a Mac Pro yet give you hours of fun chasing down compatability issues and hacked drivers from people with L337 sounding handles. Then you can go on Mac forums and call people fanbois for otherwise having a life.
I would prefer a Mac Pro 8) But after blowing out my credit card with a PowerPC G5 single and a 20" screen a few years ago and having to run back to mama and papa, the Mac Pro remains in the distance. Actually, it would be way overblown for what I got the G5 for originally, trying to produce trance dance music with Ableton Live, Rewire and Reason. With most of these Universal now an iMac core2 duo 20inch would be perfect. Also because I was figuring out how the frack I was going to take my music to gigs to perform live, lugging a bloody G5 around. iMac Core2Duo 20inch, 4-channel Behringer mixer, "DJ quality" Sony headphones, A nice 6-octave or so Midi Keyboard, a few small M-Audio external boxes, Sustain pedal, I'll be in the mix sweet.... One day... Reason and Live are fantastic dance music tools without the overcomplication (for me at least) of Logic. Dualcore CPUs, 24bit, 48khz, banging beats, thumping bass, and shivering trancedelic riffs.
I'm a fanboi... of LIFE.
Yeah, it'd be almost as nice as a Mac Pro yet give you hours of fun chasing down compatability issues and hacked drivers from people with L337 sounding handles. Then you can go on Mac forums and call people fanbois for otherwise having a life.
Yeah, that is the difference.
Sometimes it's a blessing not being able to do all of that. I can just get on with it.
Yeah, that is the difference...Sometimes it's a blessing not being able to do all of that. I can just get on with it.
Well, definitely from 2000-2005 my increased use of Macs helped me progressively produce better dance music and also got me higher-end web design/admin/production gigs.
I had to sell a lot of my Mac gear because of manic overspending over 2003-2004. Since the middle of 2005 my parents have had a hell of a lot of retirement arrangements to make so I've gradually let them use our/ their iBookG4 most of the time. Completely takes the headaches away from my brother and I when we used to have to help them use Windoze in the 90's.
The above is also the reason why I went AMD64 middle of 2005 through mid-2006 and am on a old Toshiba laptop lent to me by my cousin-in-law. Typing now on the iBook G4 for a while though, and it's just like, damn, Macs *are* sweet. PC for gaming and tinkering around (also fun) but Macs for when you need to *produce*. And for parents/ relatives/ friends so that you don't have to support them as much anymore. Also gMail is a f*king real blessing, I tells ya.
Oh, was going to post here, can't wait for Leopard, even if its 10.5.0 - I'm sure it will run nice on this hardware, 5400rpm drive, G4 933mhz (don't laugh), at least the iBook's got 640MB RAM. It will be a nice move from 10.3.9 but it will take a little time to update the User stuff on 10.5.0. Maybe I'll wait till shipping discs are 10.5.3 or something. We'll see. I aim to get a legal copy of 10.5.0 (my 10.3.9 is legal, had a bit of dodginess with pirated 10.4)...
Oh, Melgross, congrats on the post-6000 mark. Looks like your notching up to 7000, you crazy bastard
Oh, was going to post here, can't wait for Leopard, even if its 10.5.0 - I'm sure it will run nice on this hardware, 5400rpm drive, G4 933mhz (don't laugh), at least the iBook's got 640MB RAM. It will be a nice move from 10.3.9 but it will take a little time to update the User stuff on 10.5.0. Maybe I'll wait till shipping discs are 10.5.3 or something. We'll see. I aim to get a legal copy of 10.5.0 (my 10.3.9 is legal, had a bit of dodginess with pirated 10.4)...
Thanks. I may be crazy, but I do know who my parents are.