The launch of Sony's PlayStation 3 games console got off to a feeble start last night with officials, media and security outnumbering customers for most of the evening.
Over 500 retailers around the country threw open their doors as the clock struck 12:00am, expecting the frenzy that accompanied the games console's overseas debuts.
But most stores were virtually deserted, despite the 20,000 pre-orders Sony said it had received.
Even at the official launch event held at Myer's Pitt Street store in Sydney's CBD and attended by Sony's local managing director, Michael Ephraim, media and security outnumbered PS3 fans until at least 11:00pm.
At midnight, about 40 PS3 buyers had arrived to collect their consoles, causing distress for the army of camera crews who turned up expecting to capture launch mayhem.
Desperate producers unashamedly asked the crowd to fake excitement when the cameras were rolling, while a team from 2Day FM let out bogus cheers to convince their radio listeners that a launch extravaganza was underway.
No offence but although those hardware makers aren't tiny none of them are among the top 5. At the end of the day none of them push the necessary volumes to compete against the CE producers on the Blu-Ray side.
Similarly when more movies and more support lies with the opposition remind me again what is the incentive to pick HD-DVD? At the end of the day Blu-Ray is improving and it still has the support.
there are three pages and read through all to get a good glimpse of the current status. Although, the guide was very informative all around, but the best part for me was the actual list of movie release schedules around the world, which makes many bd exclusives to the HD exclusives in different parts of the world which can be available for rest of the HD-DVD supporters everywhere.
Desperate producers unashamedly asked the crowd to fake excitement when the cameras were rolling, while a team from 2Day FM let out bogus cheers to convince their radio listeners that a launch extravaganza was underway.
is pathetic then i agree.
if you are implying that Sony had enough product to ensure the demand was met, was pathetic... then i dont agree.
there are three pages and read through all to get a good glimpse of the current status. Although, the guide was very informative all around, but the best part for me was the actual list of movie release schedules around the world, which makes many bd exclusives to the HD exclusives in different parts of the world which can be available for rest of the HD-DVD supporters everywhere.
im sorry but within the first few line i had to augh at the SPIN from that site
// By comparison the HD DVD launch went off without a hitch, while the Blu-ray launch was plagued with ?problems?.//
un like the small "problems" of HD-DVD selling less and less while BD sells more and more
I think he's implying that demand itself was pathetic.
Which is silly, because in one night in Europe, Sony sold twice the amount of PS3s that it sold for the entire month of December in the US, which in itself was one of the most successful launches ever, outdoing both the PS2 and the XBOX 360, and only being surpassed by the Wii.
Which is silly, because in one night in Europe, Sony sold twice the amount of PS3s that it sold for the entire month of December in the US, which in itself was one of the most successful launches ever, outdoing both the PS2 and the XBOX 360, and only being surpassed by the Wii.
im sorry but within the first few line i had to augh at the SPIN from that site
// By comparison the HD DVD launch went off without a hitch, while the Blu-ray launch was plagued with ?problems?.//
un like the small "problems" of HD-DVD selling less and less while BD sells more and more
well come on.. the thread needs a stir!
LOL.... you kids have too much energy. If you want something to stir about.... go do some digging on the net inquiring about latest BD-J development. I've read BDA will mandate BD-J 1.1 on all BD hardwares from Oct.2007, which means all the standalone players... including some 2nd gen BD players will not meet the spec. Most immediate impact is that any movie with BD-J (IME) authoring will not be available on BD, but would be HD-DVD exclusive until end of 2007(mostly Warner titles; such as Batman Begins, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Harry Potter, Matrix, etc...).
Anyway, it's a good news that BD will finally get a interactive BD-J capability, but it is coming later part of 2007 or early 2008 and may possibly add into the cost of the hardware to add at least 256MB of flashrom storage as a starter.
Oh, no! 256MB of flash RAM! Which costs, what, $1-2 for manufacturers nowadays? However will we survive such a massive price hike?
lol.... you can't just dump in the chips and expect them to work....... if it was that easy, they can just pass out the usb flash sticks instead. Anyway, the cost isn't as important as the functionality and the time it takes to acquire it.
Which is silly, because in one night in Europe, Sony sold twice the amount of PS3s that it sold for the entire month of December in the US, which in itself was one of the most successful launches ever, outdoing both the PS2 and the XBOX 360, and only being surpassed by the Wii.
520,000 units isn't quite pathetic.
you need to look beyond those numbers. the ps3 so far is a huge failure. the only thing keeping it alive is the possibility that bluray will take over for good.
go check out what just happened for the European launch of the system
you need to look beyond those numbers. the ps3 so far is a huge failure. the only thing keeping it alive is the possibility that bluray will take over for good.
go check out what just happened for the European launch of the system
"you need to look beyond those huge numbers of all those units the ps3 is selling. it's a huge failure, because I, Elixir, nutjob fanboy extraordinaire, say so."
Go check out what just happened for the European launch of the system, by the way, Elixir, they moved a phenomenal number of units.
"you need to look beyond those huge numbers of all those units the ps3 is selling. it's a huge failure, because I, Elixir, nutjob fanboy extraordinaire, say so."
Go check out what just happened for the European launch of the system, by the way, Elixir, they moved a phenomenal number of units.
Just curious what happened with European launch?........ I don't think anyone has posted credible data on how many were sold. At least the press seems to believe there will be about 1/2 million PS3 units available/shipped in Europe, but no one knows how many have been sold.... I just checked amazon.co.uk site and PS3 is till available for online order.... Which makes me believe that the launch wasn't a sell out for sure. Just wait few more days for the real story, and I don't think it will be too good for the Sony fans.
you need to look beyond those numbers. the ps3 so far is a huge failure. the only thing keeping it alive is the possibility that bluray will take over for good.
go check out what just happened for the European launch of the system
a failure compared to what exactly sold more than the PS1 on launch...
sold more than the PS2 on Launch
sold more than the xbox on launch
sold more than the xbox360 on launch
not yet sold as many as the wii, but catching up all the time
see a pattern? point me to the failure part PLEASE oh enlightened one
once again i'm in the twilight zone. every single gaming and media source is showing events were thousands were expected and only 40 people showed up, i'm looking at numbers for australia saying it might be below 20k (less than the wii and the 360). i'm hearing nothing but bad press all over the place and yet of course in here people are saying it was a successful launch.
you spin it just like the horrible pr department at sony spins it. unreal.
you need to look beyond those numbers. the ps3 so far is a huge failure. the only thing keeping it alive is the possibility that bluray will take over for good.
go check out what just happened for the European launch of the system
If they sold a half million units they did great. But personally I think the VGCharts numbers suspect...
Blu-ray can't save a game platform. Only games saves a game platform. We'll see how it pans out but the game is early yet.
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#1&2 are rather redundant. If you have 7/8 major studios then of course you're going to have more movies.
#3 references 7 hardware providers.
Toshiba, Microsoft, HP, Alco/Venturer, ED Digital, Onkyo, Meridian, Lite-on for HD DVD aren't slouches either
#4 and 5 are marketing blather.
But Neilson numbers surely aren't marketing blather...
http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...hp?startpage=2
Looks like Blu-ray vs. HD DVD disc sales ratio has widened to about 4 to 1...
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=6984
Pwnage. Pure and simple.
Pwnage. Pure and simple.
I'll certainly concur that the numbers are correct. I mean the 90 days of 2007 pretty much had HD DVD doing everything to lose their lead.
- No big name titles released
- Universal goes into a shell
- Warner and Paramount releases slow to a crawl
I don't see the HD DVD Promotions Group panicking however. They're moving things along. April kicks off a good month of titles. Next up for me will beChildren of Men
Happy Feet
The Departed
Smoking Aces
Things are about to pick up.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/games/...e#contentSwap1
The launch of Sony's PlayStation 3 games console got off to a feeble start last night with officials, media and security outnumbering customers for most of the evening.
Over 500 retailers around the country threw open their doors as the clock struck 12:00am, expecting the frenzy that accompanied the games console's overseas debuts.
But most stores were virtually deserted, despite the 20,000 pre-orders Sony said it had received.
Even at the official launch event held at Myer's Pitt Street store in Sydney's CBD and attended by Sony's local managing director, Michael Ephraim, media and security outnumbered PS3 fans until at least 11:00pm.
At midnight, about 40 PS3 buyers had arrived to collect their consoles, causing distress for the army of camera crews who turned up expecting to capture launch mayhem.
Desperate producers unashamedly asked the crowd to fake excitement when the cameras were rolling, while a team from 2Day FM let out bogus cheers to convince their radio listeners that a launch extravaganza was underway.
This is pathetic
#1&2 are rather redundant. If you have 7/8 major studios then of course you're going to have more movies.
#3 references 7 hardware providers.
Toshiba, Microsoft, HP, Alco/Venturer, ED Digital, Onkyo, Meridian, Lite-on for HD DVD aren't slouches either
#4 and 5 are marketing blather.
No offence but although those hardware makers aren't tiny none of them are among the top 5. At the end of the day none of them push the necessary volumes to compete against the CE producers on the Blu-Ray side.
Similarly when more movies and more support lies with the opposition remind me again what is the incentive to pick HD-DVD? At the end of the day Blu-Ray is improving and it still has the support.
http://www.hd-world.net/Buyerguide.html
there are three pages and read through all to get a good glimpse of the current status. Although, the guide was very informative all around, but the best part for me was the actual list of movie release schedules around the world, which makes many bd exclusives to the HD exclusives in different parts of the world which can be available for rest of the HD-DVD supporters everywhere.
This is pathetic
if you mean
Desperate producers unashamedly asked the crowd to fake excitement when the cameras were rolling, while a team from 2Day FM let out bogus cheers to convince their radio listeners that a launch extravaganza was underway.
is pathetic then i agree.
if you are implying that Sony had enough product to ensure the demand was met, was pathetic... then i dont agree.
Here's a good objective guide to help you assess history and current status of the HD movie format war.
http://www.hd-world.net/Buyerguide.html
there are three pages and read through all to get a good glimpse of the current status. Although, the guide was very informative all around, but the best part for me was the actual list of movie release schedules around the world, which makes many bd exclusives to the HD exclusives in different parts of the world which can be available for rest of the HD-DVD supporters everywhere.
im sorry but within the first few line i had to augh at the SPIN from that site
// By comparison the HD DVD launch went off without a hitch, while the Blu-ray launch was plagued with ?problems?.//
un like the small "problems" of HD-DVD selling less and less while BD sells more and more
well come on.. the thread needs a stir!
if you are implying that Sony had enough product to ensure the demand was met, was pathetic... then i dont agree.
I think he's implying that demand itself was pathetic.
edit: re-reading his post I think he's just talking about the journalists being pathetic. Sorry murch, I'll try to quit speaking for you now.
I think he's implying that demand itself was pathetic.
Which is silly, because in one night in Europe, Sony sold twice the amount of PS3s that it sold for the entire month of December in the US, which in itself was one of the most successful launches ever, outdoing both the PS2 and the XBOX 360, and only being surpassed by the Wii.
520,000 units isn't quite pathetic.
Which is silly, because in one night in Europe, Sony sold twice the amount of PS3s that it sold for the entire month of December in the US, which in itself was one of the most successful launches ever, outdoing both the PS2 and the XBOX 360, and only being surpassed by the Wii.
520,000 units isn't quite pathetic.
thank you
im sorry but within the first few line i had to augh at the SPIN from that site
// By comparison the HD DVD launch went off without a hitch, while the Blu-ray launch was plagued with ?problems?.//
un like the small "problems" of HD-DVD selling less and less while BD sells more and more
well come on.. the thread needs a stir!
LOL.... you kids have too much energy. If you want something to stir about.... go do some digging on the net inquiring about latest BD-J development. I've read BDA will mandate BD-J 1.1 on all BD hardwares from Oct.2007, which means all the standalone players... including some 2nd gen BD players will not meet the spec. Most immediate impact is that any movie with BD-J (IME) authoring will not be available on BD, but would be HD-DVD exclusive until end of 2007(mostly Warner titles; such as Batman Begins, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Harry Potter, Matrix, etc...).
Anyway, it's a good news that BD will finally get a interactive BD-J capability, but it is coming later part of 2007 or early 2008 and may possibly add into the cost of the hardware to add at least 256MB of flashrom storage as a starter.
Oh, no! 256MB of flash RAM! Which costs, what, $1-2 for manufacturers nowadays? However will we survive such a massive price hike?
lol.... you can't just dump in the chips and expect them to work....... if it was that easy, they can just pass out the usb flash sticks instead. Anyway, the cost isn't as important as the functionality and the time it takes to acquire it.
Which is silly, because in one night in Europe, Sony sold twice the amount of PS3s that it sold for the entire month of December in the US, which in itself was one of the most successful launches ever, outdoing both the PS2 and the XBOX 360, and only being surpassed by the Wii.
520,000 units isn't quite pathetic.
you need to look beyond those numbers. the ps3 so far is a huge failure. the only thing keeping it alive is the possibility that bluray will take over for good.
go check out what just happened for the European launch of the system
you need to look beyond those numbers. the ps3 so far is a huge failure. the only thing keeping it alive is the possibility that bluray will take over for good.
go check out what just happened for the European launch of the system
"you need to look beyond those huge numbers of all those units the ps3 is selling. it's a huge failure, because I, Elixir, nutjob fanboy extraordinaire, say so."
Go check out what just happened for the European launch of the system, by the way, Elixir, they moved a phenomenal number of units.
"you need to look beyond those huge numbers of all those units the ps3 is selling. it's a huge failure, because I, Elixir, nutjob fanboy extraordinaire, say so."
Go check out what just happened for the European launch of the system, by the way, Elixir, they moved a phenomenal number of units.
Just curious what happened with European launch?........ I don't think anyone has posted credible data on how many were sold. At least the press seems to believe there will be about 1/2 million PS3 units available/shipped in Europe, but no one knows how many have been sold.... I just checked amazon.co.uk site and PS3 is till available for online order.... Which makes me believe that the launch wasn't a sell out for sure. Just wait few more days for the real story, and I don't think it will be too good for the Sony fans.
you need to look beyond those numbers. the ps3 so far is a huge failure. the only thing keeping it alive is the possibility that bluray will take over for good.
go check out what just happened for the European launch of the system
a failure compared to what exactly sold more than the PS1 on launch...
sold more than the PS2 on Launch
sold more than the xbox on launch
sold more than the xbox360 on launch
not yet sold as many as the wii, but catching up all the time
see a pattern? point me to the failure part PLEASE oh enlightened one
you spin it just like the horrible pr department at sony spins it. unreal.
i'm hearing nothing but bad press all over the place and yet of course in here people are saying it was a successful launch.
So, . . . what makes a PS3 launch successful?
a) Lots of people show up to hear about it.
b) Lots of people just go out and buy it.
you need to look beyond those numbers. the ps3 so far is a huge failure. the only thing keeping it alive is the possibility that bluray will take over for good.
go check out what just happened for the European launch of the system
If they sold a half million units they did great. But personally I think the VGCharts numbers suspect...
Blu-ray can't save a game platform. Only games saves a game platform. We'll see how it pans out but the game is early yet.
Vinea