Alcohol's just another recreational drug, one of the differences being that people joke about it more than any of the others (heroin, crystal meth etc). I enjoy alcohol in extreme moderation; please excuse the oxymoron.
I enjoy a glass of wine with a meal, or after a long day because it's relaxing. Any more than one though, and I feel none too good.
"Straight edge" is a fad. Are you a fad follower, or do you prefer to think about what you say and do?... that's just funny.
What are you babbling about now?
I was being sarcastic about straight-edge people in general being "different" and "unique" by not drinking. You're looking for an identity just like anyone else, and you found it through being distinguished as someone who doesn't drink. You guys are a real drag, and frankly tend to compensate in either of two ways: One way is with other addictions that you try to justify (like "needing" prescription drugs). And if you don't, then you try to justify your straight-edgeness with annoying phobias of "not being in control." Now let me tell you, that's when it starts to affect the people around you, when they can't go out and have fun because someone's little identity might be compromised by having a girlfriend or boyfriend that drinks. Even though the straight-edger claims to be "worried" about him or her, he's really worried about his own precarious little place in the world.
Anyway, I went to a bar last night and sipped a framboise and a magic hat for hours.
Well, I assume you're in excellent health since you don't drink, which is why I drink for you...
And as far as the women, well, it usually works out great. Lately I've found myself passing out instead sticking to the objective. It's like there's always a point in the night where you have a choice of slowing down and keeping a sense of coherence or you can completely disregard your conscience and get fuckin' destroyed. For about three weeks now, I've been simply saying, "Fuck it." Hence the reason for my three week slump...
Every now and again i'll buy a bottle of red-wine and drink the whole thing as fast as possible. It makes me totally numb, and I just lie on the floor and let my mind wander.
Apart from that i try to have a few beers in the week, im trying 'Boddingtons' this week - i believe a moderate amount of alcohol in the system is good for you - and a few more if out with friends.
Actually i hate getting drunk on most things, the 'type' of drunkness feels horrible, but red-wine drunkeness is very nice. i also find Vodka and red-bull is nice to get drunk on.
Every now and again i'll buy a bottle of red-wine and drink the whole thing as fast as possible. It makes me totally numb, and I just lie on the floor and let my mind wander.
I was being sarcastic about straight-edge people in general being "different" and "unique" by not drinking. You're looking for an identity just like anyone else, and you found it through being distinguished as someone who doesn't drink. You guys are a real drag, and frankly tend to compensate in either of two ways: One way is with other addictions that you try to justify (like "needing" prescription drugs). And if you don't, then you try to justify your straight-edgeness with annoying phobias of "not being in control." Now let me tell you, that's when it starts to affect the people around you, when they can't go out and have fun because someone's little identity might be compromised by having a girlfriend or boyfriend that drinks. Even though the straight-edger claims to be "worried" about him or her, he's really worried about his own precarious little place in the world.
Anyway, I went to a bar last night and sipped a framboise and a magic hat for hours.
I enjoyed it.
What are you talking about? I have no "straight edge" lifestyle or connections other than having heard about it from someone. That's it. I don't care what you do with yourself, but you go through a lot of mental gymnastics to justify the actions of others who don't drink.
I have a beer or two maybe once every month or two or three. Now and then, a beer simply sounds tasty to me, and other than some champagne on rare special occasions, beer is the only thing I drink. Anything stronger than beer usually doesn't taste that good to me -- when I can clearly taste alcohol, it tastes pretty obnoxious to me. I occasionally try a bit of wine, but haven't yet managed to develop a taste for it, and I'm not so worried about "fitting in" to struggle to do so.
Never once has anyone ever been correct when they've offered me an exotic mixed drink saying, "and you can't even taste the alcohol!" Oh yes, I can!
The only thing that bothers me about people who drink a lot more than I do is if they've reached the point of health problems, relationship problems, or dependency. It also seems a bit sad to me when someone's idea of a "good time" is to get plastered or otherwise drugged into an extreme state, when someone can't separate the idea of relaxing or having fun from some form of intoxication.
What are you talking about? I have no "straight edge" lifestyle or connections other than having heard about it from someone. That's it. I don't care what you do with yourself, but you seem to need a lot of justification for not drinking.
I'm just annoyed by some of the attitudes and related-problems of anti-alcohol people. For instance, what exactly were you so "right" about that you never drink? If you're not old enough yet, have a history of alcoholism in the family, just can't handle liquor, or just plain don't like it, I can understand. But in my experience, young people who refuse to ever drink-- not even a glass of wine during the holidays-- do so to stand out. That said, frat-boy types who at 23 or 24 are still talking about "tapping a barrel" and "getting drunk with my boys" annoy me even more.
I'm just annoyed by some of the attitudes and related-problems of anti-alcohol people. For instance, what exactly were you so "right" about that you never drink? If you're not old enough yet, have a history of alcoholism in the family, just can't handle liquor, or just plain don't like it, I can understand. But in my experience, young people who refuse to ever drink-- not even a glass of wine during the holidays-- do so to stand out. That said, frat-boy types who at 23 or 24 are still talking about "tapping a barrel" and "getting drunk with my boys" annoy me even more.
I suppose I should either be flattered by your impression that I'm a "frat boy", or insulted perhaps due to my inadvertently seeming younger than I am. I'm not that young, other than if you compare me to MelGross...
I don't drink because I've seen others do really stupid and/or violent things after over-imbibing, and I suppose because my father set a good example and did not drink in front of me either. Finally, I simply turn my energies that would otherwise be dulled by alcohol toward creative endeavors. I never met a creative person who was "more creative" drunk than sober.
I try to have one glass of red wine per night. I work at a hospital and every Cardiologist I speak with tells me this is excellent.
Have a google on Red Wine and health
Cheers....here's to my health!
What do all the studies say about cumulative liver and brain damage? I understand that alcohol may either increase blood flow or reduce build up of harmful prions, or whatever... but what could you get from alcohol that you couldn't get from eating extremely spicy Thai or Mexican food (other than gas)?
I can't imagine life without beer or wine. We brew our own beer and have gone to vineyards all over the world. I certainly understand one's desire to not drink, if there's a fear of becoming alcoholic, like if it runs in your family for example. But if you believe that drinking is only about people getting stupid and clumsy, it's a shame that you haven't been exposed to some of the nicer things in life. I drink regularly, but I've been drunk (BAC > .05) probably only once or twice in 10 years (since college). And even then my BAC was probably < .10, i.e., 5-6 drinks over several hours. One need not equate "drinking" with binge drinking.
I suppose I should either be flattered by your impression that I'm a "frat boy", or insulted perhaps due to my inadvertently seeming younger than I am. I'm not that young, other than if you compare me to MelGross...
I was speaking generally there. (But yeah you do seem a little on the young side).
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I don't drink because I've seen others do really stupid and/or violent things after over-imbibing, and I suppose because my father set a good example and did not drink in front of me either.
You don't drink because some people drink too much?
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Finally, I simply turn my energies that would otherwise be dulled by alcohol toward creative endeavors. I never met a creative person who was "more creative" drunk than sober.
Drinking isn't just about getting drunk. That seems to be your big hang-up here.
People can drink in moderation-- like me last night.
I was speaking generally there. (But yeah you do seem a little on the young side).
You don't drink because some people drink too much?
Drinking isn't just about getting drunk. That seems to be your big hang-up here.
People can drink in moderation-- like me last night.
- Umm... OK. Thanks. \
- I made a decision not to drink. I wonder how many people actually decided they wanted to drink or if they just wanted to fit in with their peers? Peer pressure is an insidious bugger.
- Drinking isn't always about getting drunk, but it often is.
Enjoy yourself. I've never tried to talk anyone out of drinking, it's a personal decision as far as I'm concerned.
I wonder how many people actually decided they wanted to drink or if they just wanted to fit in with their peers? Peer pressure is an insidious bugger.
Yes, binge drinking is a problem.
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- Drinking isn't always about getting drunk, but it often is.
So?
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- I made a decision not to drink. Enjoy yourself. I've never tried to talk anyone out of drinking, it's a personal decision as far as I'm concerned.
I won't press you if you want to keep your reasons to yourself. That's private. But this *is* a thread that you started about people's reasons for drinking or not drinking, and your reasons don't really make any sense honestly.
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I enjoy a glass of wine with a meal, or after a long day because it's relaxing. Any more than one though, and I feel none too good.
I drink to your health.
And to get women in bed.
And how has that worked for you?
What are you babbling about now?
I was being sarcastic about straight-edge people in general being "different" and "unique" by not drinking. You're looking for an identity just like anyone else, and you found it through being distinguished as someone who doesn't drink. You guys are a real drag, and frankly tend to compensate in either of two ways: One way is with other addictions that you try to justify (like "needing" prescription drugs). And if you don't, then you try to justify your straight-edgeness with annoying phobias of "not being in control." Now let me tell you, that's when it starts to affect the people around you, when they can't go out and have fun because someone's little identity might be compromised by having a girlfriend or boyfriend that drinks. Even though the straight-edger claims to be "worried" about him or her, he's really worried about his own precarious little place in the world.
Anyway, I went to a bar last night and sipped a framboise and a magic hat for hours.
I enjoyed it.
Alcohol is a drug. It has a nice buzz to it, and it doesn't really harm anyone else.
Pardon me?
And how has that worked for you?
Well, I assume you're in excellent health since you don't drink, which is why I drink for you...
And as far as the women, well, it usually works out great. Lately I've found myself passing out instead sticking to the objective. It's like there's always a point in the night where you have a choice of slowing down and keeping a sense of coherence or you can completely disregard your conscience and get fuckin' destroyed. For about three weeks now, I've been simply saying, "Fuck it." Hence the reason for my three week slump...
Pardon me?
I believe he is refering to the fact that other recreational drugs are regulated, supposedly, because of the actions of individuals on those drugs...
Apart from that i try to have a few beers in the week, im trying 'Boddingtons' this week - i believe a moderate amount of alcohol in the system is good for you - and a few more if out with friends.
Actually i hate getting drunk on most things, the 'type' of drunkness feels horrible, but red-wine drunkeness is very nice. i also find Vodka and red-bull is nice to get drunk on.
Every now and again i'll buy a bottle of red-wine and drink the whole thing as fast as possible. It makes me totally numb, and I just lie on the floor and let my mind wander.
It ain't LSD son!
What are you babbling about now?
I was being sarcastic about straight-edge people in general being "different" and "unique" by not drinking. You're looking for an identity just like anyone else, and you found it through being distinguished as someone who doesn't drink. You guys are a real drag, and frankly tend to compensate in either of two ways: One way is with other addictions that you try to justify (like "needing" prescription drugs). And if you don't, then you try to justify your straight-edgeness with annoying phobias of "not being in control." Now let me tell you, that's when it starts to affect the people around you, when they can't go out and have fun because someone's little identity might be compromised by having a girlfriend or boyfriend that drinks. Even though the straight-edger claims to be "worried" about him or her, he's really worried about his own precarious little place in the world.
Anyway, I went to a bar last night and sipped a framboise and a magic hat for hours.
I enjoyed it.
What are you talking about? I have no "straight edge" lifestyle or connections other than having heard about it from someone. That's it. I don't care what you do with yourself, but you go through a lot of mental gymnastics to justify the actions of others who don't drink.
Never once has anyone ever been correct when they've offered me an exotic mixed drink saying, "and you can't even taste the alcohol!" Oh yes, I can!
The only thing that bothers me about people who drink a lot more than I do is if they've reached the point of health problems, relationship problems, or dependency. It also seems a bit sad to me when someone's idea of a "good time" is to get plastered or otherwise drugged into an extreme state, when someone can't separate the idea of relaxing or having fun from some form of intoxication.
What are you talking about? I have no "straight edge" lifestyle or connections other than having heard about it from someone. That's it. I don't care what you do with yourself, but you seem to need a lot of justification for not drinking.
I'm just annoyed by some of the attitudes and related-problems of anti-alcohol people. For instance, what exactly were you so "right" about that you never drink? If you're not old enough yet, have a history of alcoholism in the family, just can't handle liquor, or just plain don't like it, I can understand. But in my experience, young people who refuse to ever drink-- not even a glass of wine during the holidays-- do so to stand out. That said, frat-boy types who at 23 or 24 are still talking about "tapping a barrel" and "getting drunk with my boys" annoy me even more.
Have a google on Red Wine and health
Cheers....here's to my health!
Never once has anyone ever been correct when they've offered me an exotic mixed drink saying, "and you can't even taste the alcohol!" Oh yes, I can!
Ever tried the IRN-BRU WKD?
Nice, about the only thing that I cant discern any alcohol in.
I'm just annoyed by some of the attitudes and related-problems of anti-alcohol people. For instance, what exactly were you so "right" about that you never drink? If you're not old enough yet, have a history of alcoholism in the family, just can't handle liquor, or just plain don't like it, I can understand. But in my experience, young people who refuse to ever drink-- not even a glass of wine during the holidays-- do so to stand out. That said, frat-boy types who at 23 or 24 are still talking about "tapping a barrel" and "getting drunk with my boys" annoy me even more.
I suppose I should either be flattered by your impression that I'm a "frat boy", or insulted perhaps due to my inadvertently seeming younger than I am. I'm not that young, other than if you compare me to MelGross...
I don't drink because I've seen others do really stupid and/or violent things after over-imbibing, and I suppose because my father set a good example and did not drink in front of me either. Finally, I simply turn my energies that would otherwise be dulled by alcohol toward creative endeavors. I never met a creative person who was "more creative" drunk than sober.
I try to have one glass of red wine per night. I work at a hospital and every Cardiologist I speak with tells me this is excellent.
Have a google on Red Wine and health
Cheers....here's to my health!
What do all the studies say about cumulative liver and brain damage? I understand that alcohol may either increase blood flow or reduce build up of harmful prions, or whatever... but what could you get from alcohol that you couldn't get from eating extremely spicy Thai or Mexican food (other than gas)?
I suppose I should either be flattered by your impression that I'm a "frat boy", or insulted perhaps due to my inadvertently seeming younger than I am. I'm not that young, other than if you compare me to MelGross...
I was speaking generally there. (But yeah you do seem a little on the young side).
I don't drink because I've seen others do really stupid and/or violent things after over-imbibing, and I suppose because my father set a good example and did not drink in front of me either.
You don't drink because some people drink too much?
Finally, I simply turn my energies that would otherwise be dulled by alcohol toward creative endeavors. I never met a creative person who was "more creative" drunk than sober.
Drinking isn't just about getting drunk. That seems to be your big hang-up here.
People can drink in moderation-- like me last night.
I was speaking generally there. (But yeah you do seem a little on the young side).
You don't drink because some people drink too much?
Drinking isn't just about getting drunk. That seems to be your big hang-up here.
People can drink in moderation-- like me last night.
- Umm... OK. Thanks.
- I made a decision not to drink. I wonder how many people actually decided they wanted to drink or if they just wanted to fit in with their peers? Peer pressure is an insidious bugger.
- Drinking isn't always about getting drunk, but it often is.
Enjoy yourself. I've never tried to talk anyone out of drinking, it's a personal decision as far as I'm concerned.
I wonder how many people actually decided they wanted to drink or if they just wanted to fit in with their peers? Peer pressure is an insidious bugger.
Yes, binge drinking is a problem.
- Drinking isn't always about getting drunk, but it often is.
So?
- I made a decision not to drink. Enjoy yourself. I've never tried to talk anyone out of drinking, it's a personal decision as far as I'm concerned.
I won't press you if you want to keep your reasons to yourself. That's private. But this *is* a thread that you started about people's reasons for drinking or not drinking, and your reasons don't really make any sense honestly.