They're also waiting for AMD's R600 which has been delayed.
There's always the Radeon X850 and the X1950.
How about the nVidia GeForce 7950 GX2?
I agree that it's a good idea to have the new MP available when the new pro apps ship but since Adobe CS3 could ship before the end of this month, it'd be good to have it ready by then. If not then, certainly on April 15. Apple isn't going to hold up the new MP for a graphics card.
Predicting what will happen with the mini looks tricky:
It seems kind of obvious that it would wait for Santa Rosa graphics, but
1. that would be the absolute only reason for it to wait (Robson in the mini's quite unlikely, faster Meroms and the faster bus are not a priority for it)
2. there are plenty of reasons for the mini to be updated sooner: the segments it's supposed to tend to are lacking for Apple, and they're important segments for switcher-grabbing, and shouldn't be neglected till friggin' June or July (wouldn't that also mean missing some US high sales season?); slipping in a Core 2 Duo is extremely easy and quite noticeable (again, www.hardmac.com/articles/69); I don't know why, but Apple doesn't update many of its lines at the same time, and the iMac, the MBP, and the MB are a priority for Santa Rosa (not to mention that the mini has absolutely always been at least one step behind, processorwise, to the iMac).
So, July at the earliest for Santa Rosa in the mini, and that leaves enough time for a small update to it in the meantime, say, at least a couple of the following
early March
-Core 2 Duo
-Superdrives for all
-better specs in general (memory, or hard drive)
-a desktop hard drive
-lower price
-something!
and then Santa Rosa in late July or in August, more than 4.5 months later?
Also, wouldn't a Core 2 Duo and some other improvements help the GMA out with the graphics, in the meantime?
Doesn't it make more sense to update the mini slightly now, and then more seriously in July or August rather than leaving it in its sorry state till June? The Apple dudes (both Jobs and another guy that gave a press release) hinted something about "seeing us soon for new Mac stuff," and the mini looks like one of the likeliest candidates (there are better reasons for the MB, MBP, and iMac to wait for Santa Rosa; Leopard's looking like June; iPhone's coming June; ...)
If so why hasn't Apple dropped the prices of minis?
hahahhahahhahaha
ahahhahahahha
ahhhhh
why?
Business 101. Main motive - Profit. If they can make more money. Why the hell not? Also, they were bragging about their successful upselling last reporting season.. Clearly no chance in the world of a 15inch MB. No chance. Shareholders would kill them.
Business 101. Main motive - Profit. If they can make more money. Why the hell not? Also, they were bragging about their successful upselling last reporting season.. Clearly no chance in the world of a 15inch MB. No chance. Shareholders would kill them.
Do you remember last quarter when Mac growth stalled and the stock went down even though they blew away the estimates? Are you sure you want to keep peddling last years technology? We can always go back to PPC. The g4s were like $75 a chip.
IMHO only if there is another compelling reason for people to upgrade to a MacBook Pro will Apple release a 15" MacBook. One such reason could be a true 1080p HD crisp hi-res multitouch screen on the MacBook Pro (using resolution independence) vs. a normal, current resolution screen on the plain MacBook.
Won't my Macbook Pro's multitouch screen get all greasy-looking? I can see wiping off the iPhone every so often with a handy-wipe, but a 15" screen?
Heck, that would be neat, but just "testing" my finger jumping around on the screen I've got on my TiBook, it seems like it would get pretty tiring. With the current design, my hands barely move, even when I go from typing to tracking (4-5" max).
Unless Shigeru Miyamoto and Steve Jobs are conspiring to make the world exercise more...
Too true ... 2007 is only a little more than 2 months old and we're already complaining that it's "the year of HD" all over again. I think with all of their record profits from the last few years, Apple has the cash to wait out more than a quarter to release new products. I think they have the time to release Leopard at WWDC with the major kinks ironed out. The wait to release iWork / iLife '07 is pretty good evidence that Apple is going to change the software and how it' distributed. That said, I think Apple will probably have most of their fun in the summer and fall. With Leopard and the iPhone due out in only 3 months, I think we'll see a surge in product updates after that. The iPod will probably get a boost after the iPhone is out (maybe October?). I get the feeling they probably have the 6G iPod done (and have had it done for a while), but are waiting to see how multi-touch goes over before giving the mass production order. I reamin ever the optimist ... Apple is going to revolutionize 2007 so much, you'll swear it's 2008
This is just a rough patch for us Mac customers/fans. Waiting for Santa Rosa. Waiting for iPhone. Waiting for Leopard. Waiting for iLife 07. Not as bad as waiting for Godot. But still...
Leopard won't come until WWDC. And if it does, we'll be lucky. I'm actually thinking it'll be announced then but won't ship until July. iLife will be ready for June, requiring 10.4.9 at least. iPhone may arrive in May, but WWDC seems a good bet.
As others have said, Mac Pros can be updated to Octos at any time. But with the lower clock speed, benefits will be dubious for most users. Other than that, everything else is waiting for Santa Rosa. (Well, the mini could get a C2D in the meantime--and it probably will, so that people won't expect it to have Santa Rosa anytime soon. But that's it.)
Apple is probably hurting itself by linking so many of its products to the laptop platform. In fact, it has no desktop platform at all: one server (Mac Pro), and four laptops (MB, MBP, mini, iMac). It takes zero advantage from the one place Intel focuses on: the desktop space.
WRT the laptop-based machines, not only are supplies contrained when Intel releases a product like C2D or Santa Rosa, but Apple further strangles itself by having four of its products linked to that. Plus, we get these looooooooooooong waits in between updates, and then everything is updated at once.
Apple could score big by migrating the iMac to Conroe: faster bus, faster CPUs, cheaper prices, more supply, freeing supply for the very important MB/MBP segment (mini can wait in situations like this). It would take some engineering skill to get a chip that hot into a form that constrained...but then again, that's what Apple is known for. (Of course, Apple could also release a minitower, but there are threads a-plenty for that discussion already.)
The iPhone and the addition of a subnotebook would also "break things up."
The wait is particularly tough for me. Barely a week goes by without our formerly rock-solid G4 tower freezing or crashing. Sometimes it just shuts down in the middle of a task and needs to be restarted. I'm amazed everytime it recovers from something like that; every time, I think it's just died. But it keeps on chugging. But the constant CPR (back-ups) is getting tiresome.
This is just a rough patch for us Mac customers/fans. Waiting for Santa Rosa. Waiting for iPhone. Waiting for Leopard. Waiting for iLife 07. Not as bad as waiting for Godot. But still...
Waiting is always the hardest part
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Leopard won't come until WWDC. And if it does, we'll be lucky. I'm actually thinking it'll be announced then but won't ship until July. iLife will be ready for June, requiring 10.4.9 at least. iPhone may arrive in May, but WWDC seems a good bet.
As others have said, Mac Pros can be updated to Octos at any time. But with the lower clock speed, benefits will be dubious for most users. Other than that, everything else is waiting for Santa Rosa. (Well, the mini could get a C2D in the meantime--and it probably will, so that people won't expect it to have Santa Rosa anytime soon. But that's it.)
You know what's weird, It's not even Spring yet and already people are talking about it being delayed until Summer, which in itself is odd. Despite what happened with the AppleTV, I'm going to take Apple's word on this one, they code fast and they are trying to give Developers everything they will need to finish coding their Apps for compatibility. Translation: All of Apple's Beta Testing is internal.
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Apple is probably hurting itself by linking so many of its products to the laptop platform. In fact, it has no desktop platform at all: one server (Mac Pro), and four laptops (MB, MBP, mini, iMac). It takes zero advantage from the one place Intel focuses on: the desktop space.
WRT the laptop-based machines, not only are supplies contrained when Intel releases a product like C2D or Santa Rosa, but Apple further strangles itself by having four of its products linked to that. Plus, we get these looooooooooooong waits in between updates, and then everything is updated at once.
Um, did you just call the Mac Pro a server? The category it falls under is Workstation, if you want a server go look at the Xserve. Apart from that, yes Apple tends to focus more on Laptops and Laptop Sized Desktops, but that is their strong point. Truthfully, outside of those that need raw horsepower for their line of work, I really don't see why anyone would buy a Desktop these days. Anyways, Intel's laptop chips are going to a much better cause then the Desktop ones.
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Apple could score big by migrating the iMac to Conroe: faster bus, faster CPUs, cheaper prices, more supply, freeing supply for the very important MB/MBP segment (mini can wait in situations like this). It would take some engineering skill to get a chip that hot into a form that constrained...but then again, that's what Apple is known for. (Of course, Apple could also release a minitower, but there are threads a-plenty for that discussion already.)
The iPhone and the addition of a subnotebook would also "break things up."
Apple has nothing to really gain from Conroe. Most people don't know or don't care about which is which, they care about a computer that works.
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The wait is particularly tough for me. Barely a week goes by without our formerly rock-solid G4 tower freezing or crashing. Sometimes it just shuts down in the middle of a task and needs to be restarted. I'm amazed everytime it recovers from something like that; every time, I think it's just died. But it keeps on chugging. But the constant CPR (back-ups) is getting tiresome.
I really hope it lasts until June.
Bleh, you should get a new Mac when you need it. May I suggest the iMac
Welcome to My Thoughts (Ignore the Hypnotic Circles)
About the Mac Mini, if it was going to be updated just like that, they would've done it by now. It's a pawn in Apple's game of chess, and what purpose it really serves I don't know or care.
Leopard I have a feeling that it will come in April if not later this month (though later this month would be far better than April ) and if not that, well Apple has up to June 20th for it to be considered a Spring Launch so don't count them out.
As for new Macs, if anything I expect to see a Subnotebook, Laptops are Apple's specialty these days and Desktops don't matter as much. They have no incentive to provide a Desktop for gamers seeing as how Games are not their strong point at this point in time.
But what do you think of the other points in my post?
Here is what I believe about a possible mini update, following the points you raised before.
-- Core 2 Duo: yes.
-- Superdrives for all: no.
-- better specs in general (memory, or hard drive): let's say yes.
-- a desktop hard drive: no, unless Apple decides to change the form factor.
-- lower price: no.
-- something: ?
-- and then Santa Rosa in late July or in August, more than 4.5 months later: I think no. If the mini gets a Core 2 Duo this month or so, I don't see it updated again before autumn (October-November). The mini is not the flagship of the consumer lines. This is the iMac and Apple has surprised us before by updating the iMac, not the mini.
-- Doesn't it make more sense to update the mini slightly now, and then more seriously in July or August rather than leaving it in its sorry state till June: it does make sense to update the mini now, but not again this summer. Why Apple would do this?
Here is what I believe about a possible mini update, following the points you raised before.
-- Core 2 Duo: yes.
-- Superdrives for all: no.
-- better specs in general (memory, or hard drive): let's say yes.
-- a desktop hard drive: no, unless Apple decides to change the form factor.
-- lower price: no.
-- something: ?
-- and then Santa Rosa in late July or in August, more than 4.5 months later: I think no. If the mini gets a Core 2 Duo this month or so, I don't see it updated again before autumn (October-November). The mini is not the flagship of the consumer lines. This is the iMac and Apple has surprised us before by updating the iMac, not the mini.
-- Doesn't it make more sense to update the mini slightly now, and then more seriously in July or August rather than leaving it in its sorry state till June: it does make sense to update the mini now, but not again this summer. Why Apple would do this?
Right. I agree--that is kind of what I tried to say, but I wasn't very clear:
1. I think the mini will be updated sooner rather than later, and was addressing the attachment people seem to have to Santa Rosa in the mini--so, if Santa Rosa will come to it, it'll be after another, sooner update.
2. as to the update, I think it will either be a small one, with about two of the things I said, or a more radical redesign, which I think the mini could use (so it isn't so limited in what can be put in), as I describe at http://forums.appleinsider.com/showt...t=70618&page=2, but most probably the small one.
So, would you agree to mini update in March, with the next one September-November? I need a computer by March 25th, so I'm hoping. If the update comes the 27th, I'm counting on a comforting condolences PM from you .
Bleh, you should get a new Mac when you need it. May I suggest the iMac
Sebastian
You may. But we're mostly considering MacBooks. We're hoping our tower survives a few more months because I despise the GMA 950, and IG in general. I do a decent amount of video work, but it's all for myself and family (so I can't really justify the extra cost of a MBP, just for the graphics card). A dedicated graphics chip makes a big difference. I've done tests on video clips at the Apple store, and performance on more than a few tasks isn't significantly better than my current tower (867 G4). It tends to be much better on the low-end MBP, despite the meager difference in processor speed. But I'm willing to give Santa Rosa a try--hence the waiting.
And in general I agree, we'll buy when we need to. I hope we won't need to buy until June.
You may. But we're mostly considering MacBooks. We're hoping our tower survives a few more months because I despise the GMA 950, and IG in general. I do a decent amount of video work, but it's all for myself and family (so I can't really justify the extra cost of a MBP, just for the graphics card). A dedicated graphics chip makes a big difference. I've done tests on video clips at the Apple store, and performance on more than a few tasks isn't significantly better than my current tower (867 G4). It tends to be much better on the low-end MBP, despite the meager difference in processor speed. But I'm willing to give Santa Rosa a try--hence the waiting.
And in general I agree, we'll buy when we need to. I hope we won't need to buy until June.
Well if you despise the GMA and don't need portability the 17" iMac ($1199) is about $100 cheaper then the Macbook Model I picked, and the 20" iMac is the same price as the black Macbook. Both use ATI Cards, and the 20" is still a good chunk of Screen Estate.
From the sound of things your G4 is doing what my HP was doing after only a year though, and that drove me nuts. So from my estimate, from the November, this is the 4th Month since it's introduction... hmm, you may not have to wait long. It kind of makes me sad to know that soon my Macbook Core 2 Duo will be yesterdays news.
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The Mac Pro cannot be announced at any time. They are waiting for Adobe and the completion of some of Apple's new high-end software packages.
They're also waiting for AMD's R600 which has been delayed.
They're also waiting for AMD's R600 which has been delayed.
There's always the Radeon X850 and the X1950.
How about the nVidia GeForce 7950 GX2?
I agree that it's a good idea to have the new MP available when the new pro apps ship but since Adobe CS3 could ship before the end of this month, it'd be good to have it ready by then. If not then, certainly on April 15. Apple isn't going to hold up the new MP for a graphics card.
It seems kind of obvious that it would wait for Santa Rosa graphics, but
1. that would be the absolute only reason for it to wait (Robson in the mini's quite unlikely, faster Meroms and the faster bus are not a priority for it)
2. there are plenty of reasons for the mini to be updated sooner: the segments it's supposed to tend to are lacking for Apple, and they're important segments for switcher-grabbing, and shouldn't be neglected till friggin' June or July (wouldn't that also mean missing some US high sales season?); slipping in a Core 2 Duo is extremely easy and quite noticeable (again, www.hardmac.com/articles/69); I don't know why, but Apple doesn't update many of its lines at the same time, and the iMac, the MBP, and the MB are a priority for Santa Rosa (not to mention that the mini has absolutely always been at least one step behind, processorwise, to the iMac).
So, July at the earliest for Santa Rosa in the mini, and that leaves enough time for a small update to it in the meantime, say, at least a couple of the following
early March
-Core 2 Duo
-Superdrives for all
-better specs in general (memory, or hard drive)
-a desktop hard drive
-lower price
-something!
and then Santa Rosa in late July or in August, more than 4.5 months later?
Also, wouldn't a Core 2 Duo and some other improvements help the GMA out with the graphics, in the meantime?
Doesn't it make more sense to update the mini slightly now, and then more seriously in July or August rather than leaving it in its sorry state till June? The Apple dudes (both Jobs and another guy that gave a press release) hinted something about "seeing us soon for new Mac stuff," and the mini looks like one of the likeliest candidates (there are better reasons for the MB, MBP, and iMac to wait for Santa Rosa; Leopard's looking like June; iPhone's coming June; ...)
The Apple dudes (both Jobs and another guy that gave a press release) hinted something about "seeing us soon for new Mac stuff," ...
NAB, perhaps?
If so why hasn't Apple dropped the prices of minis?
hahahhahahhahaha
ahahhahahahha
ahhhhh
why?
Business 101. Main motive - Profit. If they can make more money. Why the hell not? Also, they were bragging about their successful upselling last reporting season.. Clearly no chance in the world of a 15inch MB. No chance. Shareholders would kill them.
hahahhahahhahaha
ahahhahahahha
ahhhhh
why?
Business 101. Main motive - Profit. If they can make more money. Why the hell not? Also, they were bragging about their successful upselling last reporting season.. Clearly no chance in the world of a 15inch MB. No chance. Shareholders would kill them.
Do you remember last quarter when Mac growth stalled and the stock went down even though they blew away the estimates? Are you sure you want to keep peddling last years technology? We can always go back to PPC. The g4s were like $75 a chip.
IMHO only if there is another compelling reason for people to upgrade to a MacBook Pro will Apple release a 15" MacBook. One such reason could be a true 1080p HD crisp hi-res multitouch screen on the MacBook Pro (using resolution independence) vs. a normal, current resolution screen on the plain MacBook.
Won't my Macbook Pro's multitouch screen get all greasy-looking? I can see wiping off the iPhone every so often with a handy-wipe, but a 15" screen?
Heck, that would be neat, but just "testing" my finger jumping around on the screen I've got on my TiBook, it seems like it would get pretty tiring. With the current design, my hands barely move, even when I go from typing to tracking (4-5" max).
Unless Shigeru Miyamoto and Steve Jobs are conspiring to make the world exercise more...
Thoughts?
It's always quiet before the storm.
Too true ... 2007 is only a little more than 2 months old and we're already complaining that it's "the year of HD" all over again. I think with all of their record profits from the last few years, Apple has the cash to wait out more than a quarter to release new products. I think they have the time to release Leopard at WWDC with the major kinks ironed out. The wait to release iWork / iLife '07 is pretty good evidence that Apple is going to change the software and how it' distributed. That said, I think Apple will probably have most of their fun in the summer and fall. With Leopard and the iPhone due out in only 3 months, I think we'll see a surge in product updates after that. The iPod will probably get a boost after the iPhone is out (maybe October?). I get the feeling they probably have the 6G iPod done (and have had it done for a while), but are waiting to see how multi-touch goes over before giving the mass production order. I reamin ever the optimist ... Apple is going to revolutionize 2007 so much, you'll swear it's 2008
Leopard won't come until WWDC. And if it does, we'll be lucky. I'm actually thinking it'll be announced then but won't ship until July. iLife will be ready for June, requiring 10.4.9 at least. iPhone may arrive in May, but WWDC seems a good bet.
As others have said, Mac Pros can be updated to Octos at any time. But with the lower clock speed, benefits will be dubious for most users. Other than that, everything else is waiting for Santa Rosa. (Well, the mini could get a C2D in the meantime--and it probably will, so that people won't expect it to have Santa Rosa anytime soon. But that's it.)
Apple is probably hurting itself by linking so many of its products to the laptop platform. In fact, it has no desktop platform at all: one server (Mac Pro), and four laptops (MB, MBP, mini, iMac). It takes zero advantage from the one place Intel focuses on: the desktop space.
WRT the laptop-based machines, not only are supplies contrained when Intel releases a product like C2D or Santa Rosa, but Apple further strangles itself by having four of its products linked to that. Plus, we get these looooooooooooong waits in between updates, and then everything is updated at once.
Apple could score big by migrating the iMac to Conroe: faster bus, faster CPUs, cheaper prices, more supply, freeing supply for the very important MB/MBP segment (mini can wait in situations like this). It would take some engineering skill to get a chip that hot into a form that constrained...but then again, that's what Apple is known for. (Of course, Apple could also release a minitower, but there are threads a-plenty for that discussion already.)
The iPhone and the addition of a subnotebook would also "break things up."
The wait is particularly tough for me. Barely a week goes by without our formerly rock-solid G4 tower freezing or crashing. Sometimes it just shuts down in the middle of a task and needs to be restarted. I'm amazed everytime it recovers from something like that; every time, I think it's just died. But it keeps on chugging. But the constant CPR (back-ups) is getting tiresome.
I really hope it lasts until June.
NAB, perhaps?
Perhaps indeed.
But what do you think of the other points in my post?
This is just a rough patch for us Mac customers/fans. Waiting for Santa Rosa. Waiting for iPhone. Waiting for Leopard. Waiting for iLife 07. Not as bad as waiting for Godot. But still...
Waiting is always the hardest part
Leopard won't come until WWDC. And if it does, we'll be lucky. I'm actually thinking it'll be announced then but won't ship until July. iLife will be ready for June, requiring 10.4.9 at least. iPhone may arrive in May, but WWDC seems a good bet.
As others have said, Mac Pros can be updated to Octos at any time. But with the lower clock speed, benefits will be dubious for most users. Other than that, everything else is waiting for Santa Rosa. (Well, the mini could get a C2D in the meantime--and it probably will, so that people won't expect it to have Santa Rosa anytime soon. But that's it.)
You know what's weird, It's not even Spring yet and already people are talking about it being delayed until Summer, which in itself is odd. Despite what happened with the AppleTV, I'm going to take Apple's word on this one, they code fast and they are trying to give Developers everything they will need to finish coding their Apps for compatibility. Translation: All of Apple's Beta Testing is internal.
Apple is probably hurting itself by linking so many of its products to the laptop platform. In fact, it has no desktop platform at all: one server (Mac Pro), and four laptops (MB, MBP, mini, iMac). It takes zero advantage from the one place Intel focuses on: the desktop space.
WRT the laptop-based machines, not only are supplies contrained when Intel releases a product like C2D or Santa Rosa, but Apple further strangles itself by having four of its products linked to that. Plus, we get these looooooooooooong waits in between updates, and then everything is updated at once.
Um, did you just call the Mac Pro a server? The category it falls under is Workstation, if you want a server go look at the Xserve. Apart from that, yes Apple tends to focus more on Laptops and Laptop Sized Desktops, but that is their strong point. Truthfully, outside of those that need raw horsepower for their line of work, I really don't see why anyone would buy a Desktop these days. Anyways, Intel's laptop chips are going to a much better cause then the Desktop ones.
Apple could score big by migrating the iMac to Conroe: faster bus, faster CPUs, cheaper prices, more supply, freeing supply for the very important MB/MBP segment (mini can wait in situations like this). It would take some engineering skill to get a chip that hot into a form that constrained...but then again, that's what Apple is known for. (Of course, Apple could also release a minitower, but there are threads a-plenty for that discussion already.)
The iPhone and the addition of a subnotebook would also "break things up."
Apple has nothing to really gain from Conroe. Most people don't know or don't care about which is which, they care about a computer that works.
The wait is particularly tough for me. Barely a week goes by without our formerly rock-solid G4 tower freezing or crashing. Sometimes it just shuts down in the middle of a task and needs to be restarted. I'm amazed everytime it recovers from something like that; every time, I think it's just died. But it keeps on chugging. But the constant CPR (back-ups) is getting tiresome.
I really hope it lasts until June.
Bleh, you should get a new Mac when you need it. May I suggest the iMac
Sebastian
About the Mac Mini, if it was going to be updated just like that, they would've done it by now. It's a pawn in Apple's game of chess, and what purpose it really serves I don't know or care.
Leopard I have a feeling that it will come in April if not later this month (though later this month would be far better than April
As for new Macs, if anything I expect to see a Subnotebook, Laptops are Apple's specialty these days and Desktops don't matter as much. They have no incentive to provide a Desktop for gamers seeing as how Games are not their strong point at this point in time.
Sebastian
But what do you think of the other points in my post?
Here is what I believe about a possible mini update, following the points you raised before.
-- Core 2 Duo: yes.
-- Superdrives for all: no.
-- better specs in general (memory, or hard drive): let's say yes.
-- a desktop hard drive: no, unless Apple decides to change the form factor.
-- lower price: no.
-- something: ?
-- and then Santa Rosa in late July or in August, more than 4.5 months later: I think no. If the mini gets a Core 2 Duo this month or so, I don't see it updated again before autumn (October-November). The mini is not the flagship of the consumer lines. This is the iMac and Apple has surprised us before by updating the iMac, not the mini.
-- Doesn't it make more sense to update the mini slightly now, and then more seriously in July or August rather than leaving it in its sorry state till June: it does make sense to update the mini now, but not again this summer. Why Apple would do this?
Here is what I believe about a possible mini update, following the points you raised before.
-- Core 2 Duo: yes.
-- Superdrives for all: no.
-- better specs in general (memory, or hard drive): let's say yes.
-- a desktop hard drive: no, unless Apple decides to change the form factor.
-- lower price: no.
-- something: ?
-- and then Santa Rosa in late July or in August, more than 4.5 months later: I think no. If the mini gets a Core 2 Duo this month or so, I don't see it updated again before autumn (October-November). The mini is not the flagship of the consumer lines. This is the iMac and Apple has surprised us before by updating the iMac, not the mini.
-- Doesn't it make more sense to update the mini slightly now, and then more seriously in July or August rather than leaving it in its sorry state till June: it does make sense to update the mini now, but not again this summer. Why Apple would do this?
Right. I agree--that is kind of what I tried to say, but I wasn't very clear:
1. I think the mini will be updated sooner rather than later, and was addressing the attachment people seem to have to Santa Rosa in the mini--so, if Santa Rosa will come to it, it'll be after another, sooner update.
2. as to the update, I think it will either be a small one, with about two of the things I said, or a more radical redesign, which I think the mini could use (so it isn't so limited in what can be put in), as I describe at http://forums.appleinsider.com/showt...t=70618&page=2, but most probably the small one.
So, would you agree to mini update in March, with the next one September-November? I need a computer by March 25th, so I'm hoping. If the update comes the 27th, I'm counting on a comforting condolences PM from you
So, would you agree to mini update in March, with the next one September-November? I need a computer by March 25th, so I'm hoping.
Yes, if I was Apple I would do that. But then what do I know? All you can read here from people like me is just educated speculation.
If the update comes the 27th, I'm counting on a comforting condolences PM from you
Sorry, I cannot promise it. I will be without computer those days.
Bleh, you should get a new Mac when you need it. May I suggest the iMac
Sebastian
You may. But we're mostly considering MacBooks. We're hoping our tower survives a few more months because I despise the GMA 950, and IG in general. I do a decent amount of video work, but it's all for myself and family (so I can't really justify the extra cost of a MBP, just for the graphics card). A dedicated graphics chip makes a big difference. I've done tests on video clips at the Apple store, and performance on more than a few tasks isn't significantly better than my current tower (867 G4). It tends to be much better on the low-end MBP, despite the meager difference in processor speed. But I'm willing to give Santa Rosa a try--hence the waiting.
And in general I agree, we'll buy when we need to. I hope we won't need to buy until June.
You may. But we're mostly considering MacBooks. We're hoping our tower survives a few more months because I despise the GMA 950, and IG in general. I do a decent amount of video work, but it's all for myself and family (so I can't really justify the extra cost of a MBP, just for the graphics card). A dedicated graphics chip makes a big difference. I've done tests on video clips at the Apple store, and performance on more than a few tasks isn't significantly better than my current tower (867 G4). It tends to be much better on the low-end MBP, despite the meager difference in processor speed. But I'm willing to give Santa Rosa a try--hence the waiting.
And in general I agree, we'll buy when we need to. I hope we won't need to buy until June.
Well if you despise the GMA and don't need portability the 17" iMac ($1199) is about $100 cheaper then the Macbook Model I picked, and the 20" iMac is the same price as the black Macbook. Both use ATI Cards, and the 20" is still a good chunk of Screen Estate.
From the sound of things your G4 is doing what my HP was doing after only a year though, and that drove me nuts. So from my estimate, from the November, this is the 4th Month since it's introduction... hmm, you may not have to wait long. It kind of makes me sad to know that soon my Macbook Core 2 Duo will be yesterdays news.
Sebastian