Spare me the "Pros can afford these prices" rant. I know that. However, with Macromedia swallowed up I'm definitely sensing that Adobe doesn't feel it has to hold the line on pricing anymore.
Upgrades are from previous versions of the CS suite. I haven't seen any upgrade pricing for people who only own Photoshop. That tells me that Adobe isn't concerned about any potential threat to Photoshop on either platform.
For those who keep saying that they wish Quark would go away, be careful what you wish for.
Because the existence of Quark is probably the only thing keeping CS pricing from moving even higher.
Spare me the "Pros can afford these prices" rant. I know that. However, with Macromedia swallowed up I'm definitely sensing that Adobe doesn't feel it has to hold the line on pricing anymore.
Upgrades are from previous versions of the CS suite. I haven't seen any upgrade pricing for people who only own Photoshop. That tells me that Adobe isn't concerned about any potential threat to Photoshop on either platform.
For those who keep saying that they wish Quark would go away, be careful what you wish for.
Because the existence of Quark is probably the only thing keeping CS pricing from moving even higher.
No, you're wrong on that. There is upgrade pricing for PhotoShop owners for both the CS 3 and PhotoShop as a standalone product. Click on upgrade and choose your option.
Residents of the US and Canada are the lucky bastards who pay about 62% of the price EU residents have to pay.
There was a time, about 5 years ago.
We had to pay about 2499 euro for one copy of Quark Xpress while a US citizen payed less than $1,000 for the same product. (Okay, Quark chocked on it because every European designer in his right mind jumped ship and Quark lowered the price to 1999 euro and eventually 1499 euro in 2005)
So please stop complaining or come over to this side of the pond.
Spare me the "Pros can afford these prices" rant. I know that. However, with Macromedia swallowed up I'm definitely sensing that Adobe doesn't feel it has to hold the line on pricing anymore.
Upgrades are from previous versions of the CS suite. I haven't seen any upgrade pricing for people who only own Photoshop. That tells me that Adobe isn't concerned about any potential threat to Photoshop on either platform.
For those who keep saying that they wish Quark would go away, be careful what you wish for.
Because the existence of Quark is probably the only thing keeping CS pricing from moving even higher.
i'm not sure i get this. i ordered the design premium and it comes with all the usual adobe design apps and a macromedia apps flash and dreamweaver. last i checked, the $599 price was less than it would have cost me in the past to update all these apps to a new suite. is it really that expensive? maybe if it was just the normal design apps it would have been considered fairly expensive, but to upgrade from cs2 basic to cs3 with the macro apps seems like a decent deal to me.
Residents of the US and Canada are the lucky bastards who pay about 62% of the price EU residents have to pay.
There was a time, about 5 years ago.
We had to pay about 2499 euro for one copy of Quark Xpress while a US citizen payed less than $1,000 for the same product. (Okay, Quark chocked on it because every European designer in his right mind jumped ship and Quark lowered the price to 1999 euro and eventually 1499 euro in 2005)
So please stop complaining or come over to this side of the pond.
Nah, I feel pretty safe at night here. Besides, I like to vacation there and everything is freekn expensive over there. I think I paid 40 euro just to breathe the air last time I was over there.
No, you're wrong on that. There is upgrade pricing for PhotoShop owners for both the CS 3 and PhotoShop as a standalone product. Click on upgrade and choose your option.
You don't expand your market share by upgrades. You retain marketshare.
New buyers will have to invest heavily to use this stuff.
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Spare me the "Pros can afford these prices" rant. I know that. However, with Macromedia swallowed up I'm definitely sensing that Adobe doesn't feel it has to hold the line on pricing anymore.
Upgrades are from previous versions of the CS suite. I haven't seen any upgrade pricing for people who only own Photoshop. That tells me that Adobe isn't concerned about any potential threat to Photoshop on either platform.
For those who keep saying that they wish Quark would go away, be careful what you wish for.
Because the existence of Quark is probably the only thing keeping CS pricing from moving even higher.
It is definitely expensive.
Spare me the "Pros can afford these prices" rant. I know that. However, with Macromedia swallowed up I'm definitely sensing that Adobe doesn't feel it has to hold the line on pricing anymore.
Upgrades are from previous versions of the CS suite. I haven't seen any upgrade pricing for people who only own Photoshop. That tells me that Adobe isn't concerned about any potential threat to Photoshop on either platform.
For those who keep saying that they wish Quark would go away, be careful what you wish for.
Because the existence of Quark is probably the only thing keeping CS pricing from moving even higher.
No, you're wrong on that. There is upgrade pricing for PhotoShop owners for both the CS 3 and PhotoShop as a standalone product. Click on upgrade and choose your option.
In the past, there was an "upgrade from Photoshop" price where you could get the whole suite.
What I meant was an upgrade path for people who only had Photoshop to move to the entire CS suite.
In the past, there was an "upgrade from Photoshop" price where you could get the whole suite.
Again, read the upgrade tabs. There is an upgrade path from just PhotoShop to the entire suite.
It is definitely expensive.
No it's not, at least not for you.
In the EU it is expensive, even before our VAT.
Residents of the US and Canada are the lucky bastards who pay about 62% of the price EU residents have to pay.
There was a time, about 5 years ago.
We had to pay about 2499 euro for one copy of Quark Xpress while a US citizen payed less than $1,000 for the same product. (Okay, Quark chocked on it because every European designer in his right mind jumped ship and Quark lowered the price to 1999 euro and eventually 1499 euro in 2005)
So please stop complaining or come over to this side of the pond.
It is definitely expensive.
Spare me the "Pros can afford these prices" rant. I know that. However, with Macromedia swallowed up I'm definitely sensing that Adobe doesn't feel it has to hold the line on pricing anymore.
Upgrades are from previous versions of the CS suite. I haven't seen any upgrade pricing for people who only own Photoshop. That tells me that Adobe isn't concerned about any potential threat to Photoshop on either platform.
For those who keep saying that they wish Quark would go away, be careful what you wish for.
Because the existence of Quark is probably the only thing keeping CS pricing from moving even higher.
i'm not sure i get this. i ordered the design premium and it comes with all the usual adobe design apps and a macromedia apps flash and dreamweaver. last i checked, the $599 price was less than it would have cost me in the past to update all these apps to a new suite. is it really that expensive? maybe if it was just the normal design apps it would have been considered fairly expensive, but to upgrade from cs2 basic to cs3 with the macro apps seems like a decent deal to me.
No it's not, at least not for you.
In the EU it is expensive, even before our VAT.
Residents of the US and Canada are the lucky bastards who pay about 62% of the price EU residents have to pay.
There was a time, about 5 years ago.
We had to pay about 2499 euro for one copy of Quark Xpress while a US citizen payed less than $1,000 for the same product. (Okay, Quark chocked on it because every European designer in his right mind jumped ship and Quark lowered the price to 1999 euro and eventually 1499 euro in 2005)
So please stop complaining or come over to this side of the pond.
Nah, I feel pretty safe at night here. Besides, I like to vacation there and everything is freekn expensive over there. I think I paid 40 euro just to breathe the air last time I was over there.
No, you're wrong on that. There is upgrade pricing for PhotoShop owners for both the CS 3 and PhotoShop as a standalone product. Click on upgrade and choose your option.
You don't expand your market share by upgrades. You retain marketshare.
New buyers will have to invest heavily to use this stuff.
Again, read the upgrade tabs. There is an upgrade path from just PhotoShop to the entire suite.
I'll check more closely. The Canadian Apple Store only lists the upgrade from CS ($499) and the full version ($1499.)