Looking for a good backup program

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in Mac Software edited January 2014
I am relatively new to the Mac and know it's time for a good backup program. I have looked and seen backup programs such as Silverkeeper and Retrospect. I will be backing up to a hard drive that's attached to a airdisk and at times as well to a Lacie Firewire drive. I keep the Lacie in a safe for a 2nd backup in case of fire/theft or failure of my main backup.

Also I keep a 3rd backup on DVD offsite but this one isn't backed up often.

The way I like to do my backups on my server drive is on a weekly basis do a complete system backup and on a daily basis at night do a backup of any data (safari favorites, documents, quickbooks data, etc).

I have been a PC user for years and used Acronis most of the time and would either do a system backup or select certain directories to backup. I tried a trial of Silverkeeper when i first got my system. Maybe I did something wrong but it seemed hard to use and seemed to only have the full system backup option. What are some backup programs I should try? I know TimeMachine is coming out but I at least need a good solution until Oct.
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  • Reply 1 of 25
    MarvinMarvin Posts: 14,230moderator
    Superduper:



    http://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDup...scription.html



    or carbon copy cloner (free but PPC):



    http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html



    I prefer Superduper and I've had no problems with it but I only use it for a one time clone and then I do manual backups.
  • Reply 2 of 25
    SuperDuper.
  • Reply 3 of 25
    sequitursequitur Posts: 1,901member
    I agree with Marvin and Carrier Wave: SuperDuper. After using several versions of Retrospect for about 4 years and SiverKeeper for awhile and finding them awkward at times, I started using Superduper. It doesn't have all the bells and whistles that other backup apps have, but it is easier to use.

    Several months ago, MacWorld had an article on backup programs and, while the mag didn't pick it for first place because others were more full featured (like archiving), it did say SuperDuper was one of the easiest to use. You can download a truncated version free. It does only full backups of the entire drive or of "Users'. To get the version that does incremental backups, it costs between $25 and $30.
  • Reply 4 of 25
    thegarthegar Posts: 92member
    SuperDuper can even make a bootable backup of your entire HD. So if something goes wrong, you can just boot up from your external HD. Works like a charm !
  • Reply 5 of 25
    aplnubaplnub Posts: 2,596member
    I SuperDuper my entire system every night and once a month to a NAS HDD on the network.
  • Reply 6 of 25
    With SuperDuper, is it fairly easy to pick which files, folders you want backed up? For example, from my boot disk I'd be content with my Mailboxes file from Library, my browser bookmarks from App Support, and my Address Book.
  • Reply 7 of 25
    sequitursequitur Posts: 1,901member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by theGAR View Post


    SuperDuper can even make a bootable backup of your entire HD. So if something goes wrong, you can just boot up from your external HD. Works like a charm !



    Bootable backup works only if you are using a Firewire hard drive, NOT USB.
  • Reply 8 of 25
    backtomacbacktomac Posts: 4,579member
    Super duper. Super easy. Pay the money and get the full version. That way the subsequent backups go quicker.
  • Reply 9 of 25
    you dont wanna pay



    get backup 3.0 it does the same incremential backup for free on any hard drive should they be FAT or NTSF ... unlike Super Dupper
  • Reply 10 of 25
    sequitursequitur Posts: 1,901member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GuillaumeB View Post


    you dont wanna pay



    get backup 3.0 it does the same incremential backup for free on any hard drive should they be FAT or NTSF ... unlike Super Dupper



    Free? Don't you have to subscribe to .Mac at around $100 a year?
  • Reply 11 of 25
    lafelafe Posts: 252member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sequitur View Post


    Bootable backup works only if you are using a Firewire hard drive, NOT USB.



    Huh? I use SuperDuper! once a week at least, and it always makes a bootable backbup on my favorite USB HDD. I've used it to recover from at least one disaster, too, so I assure you it works just fine.
  • Reply 12 of 25
    steste Posts: 119member
    I purchased SuperDuper recently, and so far it works like a charm. I backed up my entire HD last weekend (about 1 1/2-2 hours, via FW800), and did my first subsequent backup last night (7 minutes). Easy peasy.



    I currently own just one 500GB external HD, which I am backing everything up to. I also use this same external drive to store other large files (music, video) that, for reasons of space, I can't keep on my MBP. So far, I've placed all the storage files in one folder named, not unreasonably, Storage, and I've backed up using SuperDuper's Newer method to avoid having the storage files wiped.



    My question is simple: is this the best method to achieve my goals, or should I be looking into partitioning my external HD? I don't fancy buying a second external HD purely for backup purposes just yet.



    Thanks,



    Ste
  • Reply 13 of 25
    sequitursequitur Posts: 1,901member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lafe View Post


    Huh? I use SuperDuper! once a week at least, and it always makes a bootable backbup on my favorite USB HDD. I've used it to recover from at least one disaster, too, so I assure you it works just fine.



    I got that "No USB' from SD's site. However, when I used a USB HDD, the program 'Said" it could be used to reboot. I never had to reboot so I don't know from experience - just SuperDupers' caveate????????????

    A while back, an AI member "explained why USB boots don't work", so I 'm befuddled. Does it or doesn't it?
  • Reply 14 of 25
    vineavinea Posts: 5,585member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by markw10 View Post


    Also I keep a 3rd backup on DVD offsite but this one isn't backed up often.



    I use JungleDisk to do offsite backup to Amazon S3. $0.15 per gig/month storage + $0.20 per gig transfer. I haven't seen a bill above like $5 from Amazon so its not a wallet buster.



    I currently only save my iPhotos and smaller files to S3 and not iMovie stuff. Works well for me and a lot more convienient than any other offsite storage I could do. Since the files are encrypted with 256-bit AES its reasonably secure.



    http://www.jungledisk.com/



    I would imagine if you have 500GB of stuff this wouldn't work so well for you...but that's a lot of DVDs too...



    Vinea
  • Reply 15 of 25
    sequitursequitur Posts: 1,901member
    This is from SuperDuper's site. ShirtPocket.



    http://shirtpocket.com/SuperDuper/Su...scription.html



    System Requirements



    Mac OS X 10.3.9 or later (including 10.4 "Tiger")



    Please note that SuperDuper! is not designed to back up to CDs, DVDs or Tape, and needs a location (other than the boot volume) to store the backup - typically a volume on an internal or external (FireWire) drive.



    Note also that USB drives do not allow booting Power PC based Macintoshes under any version of Mac OS X: this is not a SuperDuper! limitation, but one of the OS. If you would like to boot from a backup stored on an external drive, and have a Power PC based Mac, please purchase a Mac compatible FireWire drive.



    It doesn't say anything about Intel Macs, so if you are using an Intel Mac, it may be possible to reboot with a USB HDD.
  • Reply 16 of 25
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sequitur View Post


    It doesn't say anything about Intel Macs, so if you are using an Intel Mac, it may be possible to reboot with a USB HDD.



    At this very moment I am backing up my macbook to a 500 GB Lacie usb 2.0 external disk using SD. When it is done, I will try to boot from it and report back here.
  • Reply 17 of 25
    sequitursequitur Posts: 1,901member
    I e-mailed Shirt Pocket about the USB reboot. This is the reply I got:



    Power PC Macs can't boot from USB drives, but Intel Macs can, assuming they're properly partitioned for the Mac.

    --

    Dave Nanian

    Shirt Pocket



    Well, that clears that up. Now all I need is an Intel Mac.



    Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow !!!!!!!!!
  • Reply 18 of 25
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sequitur View Post


    Power PC Macs can't boot from USB drives, but Intel Macs can, assuming they're properly partitioned for the Mac.



    Yup, both the core duo iMac and the core2duo macbook boot perfectly from their respective backup partition on the lacie usb2 external disk.
  • Reply 19 of 25
    Have a "Core Duo" iMac with the following (from DiskUtility) internal drive:



    \tName : \tWDC WD1600JS-40NGB2 Media

    \tType : \tDisk



    \tDisk Identifier : \tdisk0

    \tMedia Name : \tWDC WD1600JS-40NGB2 Media

    \tMedia Type : \tGeneric

    \tConnection Bus : \tSerial ATA 2

    \tConnection Type : \tInternal

    \tPartition Type : \tGUID_partition_scheme

    \tDevice Tree : \t/[email protected]/[email protected],2/[email protected]/[email protected]/@0:0

    \tWritable : \tYes

    \tEjectable : \tNo

    \tMac OS 9 Drivers Installed : \tNo

    \tLocation : \tInternal

    \tTotal Capacity : \t149.1 GB (160,041,885,696 Bytes)

    \tS.M.A.R.T. Status : \tVerified

    \tDisk Number : \t0

    \tPartition Number : \t0





    And, connected to it, through FireWire, is the following (from DiskUtility) external drive:



    \tName : \tLaCie Group SA

    \tType : \tDisk



    \tDisk Identifier : \tdisk1

    \tMedia Name : \tST316002 3A Media

    \tMedia Type : \tGeneric

    \tConnection Bus : \tFireWire

    \tConnection Type : \tExternal

    \tConnection ID : \t58629654000500590

    \tPartition Type : \tGUID_partition_scheme

    \tDevice Tree : \t/[email protected]/[email protected]/[email protected]/[email protected]/[email protected]/@0:0

    \tWritable : \tYes

    \tEjectable : \tYes

    \tMac OS 9 Drivers Installed : \tNo

    \tLocation : \tExternal

    \tTotal Capacity : \t149.1 GB (160,041,885,696 Bytes)

    \tS.M.A.R.T. Status : \tNot Supported

    \tDisk Number : \t1

    \tPartition Number : \t0



    They are partitioned (because I have BootCamp installed) the same and I regularly backup to the external FireWire drive. I have used CarbonCopyCloner, CopyCatX, Synchronize Pro, and SuperDuper. I have been trying for over a year to be able to generate a "Finder Usuable" and also "Bootable" backup. These backup volumes do show up when you cold-startup or restart with the "option" key down. This indicates they are supposed to be "Bootable". But what happens when you select one of them is that the boot process takes a little longer than usual; and then the volume that actually boots is its corresponding volume on the INTERNAL drive.



    It's almost like the initial evaluation of the 2 internal volumes AND the 2 external volumes says that all 4 ARE bootable; but something occurs a little later, during the boot process, that says whoops! Anyone have an idea how to get this done?



    Many Thanks,

    Bob
  • Reply 20 of 25
    I am new to backing up my hard drive and have never done it before. But I realize how critical it is so that you dont lose any important files/music/movies the list goes on. My question is that can I use SuperDuper! to backup my hard drive to my iPod, which i enabled disk use? Right now all I am doing is manually dragging important files over when i need them. Will SuperDuper! simplify and update everything for me automatically?
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