In Ballmer's defense, he didn't say had a 60-80% marketshare, he said he'd rather have a higher market share than a lower one. Of course he would. This is just good CEO-speak. If we examine what Jobs has said and what he implied I'm certain we can find more quotes. As for chair throwing, Ballmer has that one beat.
What Ballmer said was obviously misleading. He's belittleing a potential 3% market-share by Apple compared to his 4.6% -- and he's pushing the almighty Windows!
Ballmer is a right bastard and a deceiver. Sure every Exec. must be adept at "CEO-speak" but the things MS execs say are downright misleading, and in some cases false. Remember when Bill Gates said that people were hacking the Mac everyday and that he "challenged anyone to do that on the PC?" Well challenge accepted, and challenge completed. That's the reality. PCs get hacked daily. Macs only get hacked in $10,000 contests where the computer will open any link sent to it in an e-mail.
What Ballmer said was obviously misleading. He's belittleing a potential 3% market-share by Apple compared to his 4.6% -- and he's pushing the almighty Windows!
Ballmer is a right bastard and a deceiver. Sure every Exec. must be adept at "CEO-speak" but the things MS execs say are downright misleading, and in some cases false. Remember when Bill Gates said that people were hacking the Mac everyday and that he "challenged anyone to do that on the PC?" Well challenge accepted, and challenge completed. That's the reality. PCs get hacked daily. Macs only get hacked in $10,000 contests where the computer will open any link sent to it in an e-mail.
Liars.
-Clive
What the hell is wrong with you?
Did Ballmer bang your sister and never call her back?
Steve said his only looking to get 1% market share the first year, and ballmer in the other hand says they will get 3% lol ohh my god am so lucky i dont hold MSFT shares anymore, really what a dum as, and now that cingular is offering unlimitted text just for $5 trust me thats a another way to say good bey even to nextel
famous 2 way radio and welcome to iphone, text is the future trust me more private and even school teens will be able to use it right from class rooms, with out no one knowing it
"It's sort of a funny question," he said when asked by USA Today whether he wished consumers were as passionate about Microsoft as they are towards Apple, the iPod, and now iPhone. "Would I trade 96 percent of the market for 4 percent of the market? (Laughter.) I want to have products that appeal to everybody."
Microsoft Chief Executive Steve Ballmer | Photo Credits: AP
"Now we'll get a chance to go through this again in phones and music players," Ballmer continued. "There's no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance. It's a $500 subsidized item. They may make a lot of money. But if you actually take a look at the 1.3 billion phones that get sold, I'd prefer to have our software in 60 percent or 70 percent or 80 percent of them, than I would to have 2 percent or 3 percent, which is what Apple might get."
I believe Ballmer is referring to Microsoft's mobile Window software being currently used in smartphones. He is saying iPhone can't compete against that, hence he is not worry.
While I don't agree with his arrogant quote here, he may have a good point and we just have to see how well iPhone will take off when it comes to June.
I never thought I'd hear a MS exec say EXPLICITLY that they think that having huge market share is more important than making money.
Ballmer is even more of an idiot than I thought he was...
A frequent mistake of the nakedly greedy businessman, Corporatus neandertalis.
That quantity is better than quality, that market share is better than market changing, that it is better to run 1000 McDonald's than 1 great restaurant.
This aesthetism and commensurate ethos would be laughable and/pitiable if not for the havoc it can create. It made Enron not just an interesting MBA experiment, but it made Enron powerful (illusion) and persoanlly and social destructive to a great number of people. This ethos creates the banality that lets banks, investment firms and their dependents play the economy like it is some game.
I don't want to be overly dramatic, but Balmer is an icon of a very bad strain within business that allows mean spirited people to become successful and powerful without having actually added much to their culture or society. They can't add to life so they tear other people and other companies down. And rather than concentrating on good products, they concentrate on profits and statistics. That kind of business life is easier and doesn't require much of a moral compass.
So laugh at the monkey dance, but don't allow similar people that you see everyday in business think that they are getting away with anything.
Sorry, gordon, you beat me to it, but I didn't read your post!
60, 70 or 80% Did I miss the part where Ballmer suddenly had a vision of 25 years in the future on the planet Microsucksotamia? Only like 20 million phones are smart phones which run some sort of actual OS and less than 1 million of those run a Winblows Mobile. Of course he would LIKE to see his company have that much market share, who wouldn't (for their own company, not M$). But that is just regular Ballmer spouting off his delusional ideas. Why is he not in a white, padded room yet?
I find it amusing that Balmer seems to be attempting to imitate Jobs in yet another way: The Reality Distortion Field. Unfortunately, like most attempts by Microsoft employees to duplicate previously proven technology, he fails quite miserably at his original goal. He has, however, PERFECTED the Reality Denial Field. Good job Stevie B.! Keep up the... uh... wor... eh.. well, keep doing stuff... .... .. - no, never mind, just stop trying. Thanks.
Poor Stevie... he actually thinks people buy his products because they want to. How many EU aniti-trust suits will it take for you to realize you have a monopoly on OS stand alone sales... start looking in people's homes and you'll see what people choose when they have a choice.
Exactly. If more Window sofware and games work on Mac i cant see a single reason to use window
A frequent mistake of the nakedly greedy businessman, Corporatus neandertalis.
That quantity is better than quality, that market share is better than market changing, that it is better to run 1000 McDonald's than 1 great restaurant.
This aesthetism and commensurate ethos would be laughable and/pitiable if not for the havoc it can create. It made Enron not just an interesting MBA experiment, but it made Enron powerful (illusion) and persoanlly and social destructive to a great number of people. This ethos creates the banality that lets banks, investment firms and their dependents play the economy like it is some game.
I don't want to be overly dramatic, but Balmer is an icon of a very bad strain within business that allows mean spirited people to become successful and powerful without having actually added much to their culture or society. They can't add to life so they tear other people and other companies down. And rather than concentrating on good products, they concentrate on profits and statistics. That kind of business life is easier and doesn't require much of a moral compass.
So laugh at the monkey dance, but don't allow similar people that you see everyday in business think that they are getting away with anything.
Sorry, gordon, you beat me to it, but I didn't read your post!
Wow this AI article/headline actually had a smattering of personal opinion in it. It almost felt like it was written engadget style instead of like it was important news. I liked it. This place doesn't alwas need to take itself so seriously.
"It's sort of a funny question," he said when asked by USA Today whether he wished consumers were as passionate about Microsoft as they are towards Apple, the iPod, and now iPhone. "Would I trade 96 percent of the market for 4 percent of the market? (Laughter.) I want to have products that appeal to everybody."
Face it, Microsoft makes crapware too. I will choose better designed software, music player & phone regardless of the popularity. Yes, give me 5%, thats the cream at the top. The curds can go to microsofts crapware division.
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In Ballmer's defense, he didn't say had a 60-80% marketshare, he said he'd rather have a higher market share than a lower one. Of course he would. This is just good CEO-speak. If we examine what Jobs has said and what he implied I'm certain we can find more quotes. As for chair throwing, Ballmer has that one beat.
What Ballmer said was obviously misleading. He's belittleing a potential 3% market-share by Apple compared to his 4.6% -- and he's pushing the almighty Windows!
Ballmer is a right bastard and a deceiver. Sure every Exec. must be adept at "CEO-speak" but the things MS execs say are downright misleading, and in some cases false. Remember when Bill Gates said that people were hacking the Mac everyday and that he "challenged anyone to do that on the PC?" Well challenge accepted, and challenge completed. That's the reality. PCs get hacked daily. Macs only get hacked in $10,000 contests where the computer will open any link sent to it in an e-mail.
Liars.
-Clive
I sure wish the hell he pony up for a toupee - he is one fugly, monkey jumpin S_B
Didn't some Brit figure out a few years back that chicken manure helped grow hair?
If that were true, Ballmer would be completely covered with hair.
Oh dear. Imagine Ballmer trying to teach that 85-year old to use Zune. The old chap could die!
yes, i hope he has some "zuneagra" to help him with that squirt feature.......
What Ballmer said was obviously misleading. He's belittleing a potential 3% market-share by Apple compared to his 4.6% -- and he's pushing the almighty Windows!
Ballmer is a right bastard and a deceiver. Sure every Exec. must be adept at "CEO-speak" but the things MS execs say are downright misleading, and in some cases false. Remember when Bill Gates said that people were hacking the Mac everyday and that he "challenged anyone to do that on the PC?" Well challenge accepted, and challenge completed. That's the reality. PCs get hacked daily. Macs only get hacked in $10,000 contests where the computer will open any link sent to it in an e-mail.
Liars.
-Clive
What the hell is wrong with you?
Did Ballmer bang your sister and never call her back?
famous 2 way radio and welcome to iphone, text is the future trust me more private and even school teens will be able to use it right from class rooms, with out no one knowing it
...really what a dum as...
Ahhhh, irony.
gc
"It's sort of a funny question," he said when asked by USA Today whether he wished consumers were as passionate about Microsoft as they are towards Apple, the iPod, and now iPhone. "Would I trade 96 percent of the market for 4 percent of the market? (Laughter.) I want to have products that appeal to everybody."
Microsoft Chief Executive Steve Ballmer | Photo Credits: AP
"Now we'll get a chance to go through this again in phones and music players," Ballmer continued. "There's no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance. It's a $500 subsidized item. They may make a lot of money. But if you actually take a look at the 1.3 billion phones that get sold, I'd prefer to have our software in 60 percent or 70 percent or 80 percent of them, than I would to have 2 percent or 3 percent, which is what Apple might get."
I believe Ballmer is referring to Microsoft's mobile Window software being currently used in smartphones. He is saying iPhone can't compete against that, hence he is not worry.
While I don't agree with his arrogant quote here, he may have a good point and we just have to see how well iPhone will take off when it comes to June.
Microsoft Chief Executive Steve Ballmer: "Now we'll get a chance to go through this again in phones and music players,"
Translation: We've made a killing copying Apple's Mac OS and now we'll get a chance to go through this again by copying the iPhone and iPod.
What the hell is wrong with you?
Did Ballmer bang your sister and never call her back?
Ballmer has sex with humans??
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Ballmer is even more of an idiot than I thought he was...
A frequent mistake of the nakedly greedy businessman, Corporatus neandertalis.
That quantity is better than quality, that market share is better than market changing, that it is better to run 1000 McDonald's than 1 great restaurant.
This aesthetism and commensurate ethos would be laughable and/pitiable if not for the havoc it can create. It made Enron not just an interesting MBA experiment, but it made Enron powerful (illusion) and persoanlly and social destructive to a great number of people. This ethos creates the banality that lets banks, investment firms and their dependents play the economy like it is some game.
I don't want to be overly dramatic, but Balmer is an icon of a very bad strain within business that allows mean spirited people to become successful and powerful without having actually added much to their culture or society. They can't add to life so they tear other people and other companies down. And rather than concentrating on good products, they concentrate on profits and statistics. That kind of business life is easier and doesn't require much of a moral compass.
So laugh at the monkey dance, but don't allow similar people that you see everyday in business think that they are getting away with anything.
Sorry, gordon, you beat me to it, but I didn't read your post!
Poor Stevie... he actually thinks people buy his products because they want to. How many EU aniti-trust suits will it take for you to realize you have a monopoly on OS stand alone sales... start looking in people's homes and you'll see what people choose when they have a choice.
Exactly. If more Window sofware and games work on Mac i cant see a single reason to use window
Balmer's 85 year old uncle would probably be best served by an iPod shuffle rather than a Zune.
Apple has a product that meets his needs and Microsoft doesn't.
Microsoft currently has only 4-5% of the phone market.
Microsoft's mobile division isn't very profitable
Ballmer believes Apple will capture 3-4% of the market.
Ballmer believes Apple's iPhone will be profitable.
Microsoft only makes complex music players.
Microsoft has been in the phone market for years and still only makes complex smartphones.
Apple has expanded the ipod range to meet a wide rage of needs and price points.
Apple will expand it's iPhone line to meet a wide rage of needs and price points.
WILD SPECULATION
In 5 years Microsoft will have 5-10% of the phone market and Apple will have 30-40%.
Oh, and Bill Gates is way smarter. Steve is lucky Bill gave him a nice job.
A frequent mistake of the nakedly greedy businessman, Corporatus neandertalis.
That quantity is better than quality, that market share is better than market changing, that it is better to run 1000 McDonald's than 1 great restaurant.
This aesthetism and commensurate ethos would be laughable and/pitiable if not for the havoc it can create. It made Enron not just an interesting MBA experiment, but it made Enron powerful (illusion) and persoanlly and social destructive to a great number of people. This ethos creates the banality that lets banks, investment firms and their dependents play the economy like it is some game.
I don't want to be overly dramatic, but Balmer is an icon of a very bad strain within business that allows mean spirited people to become successful and powerful without having actually added much to their culture or society. They can't add to life so they tear other people and other companies down. And rather than concentrating on good products, they concentrate on profits and statistics. That kind of business life is easier and doesn't require much of a moral compass.
So laugh at the monkey dance, but don't allow similar people that you see everyday in business think that they are getting away with anything.
Sorry, gordon, you beat me to it, but I didn't read your post!
So true. Very nice post.
"It's sort of a funny question," he said when asked by USA Today whether he wished consumers were as passionate about Microsoft as they are towards Apple, the iPod, and now iPhone. "Would I trade 96 percent of the market for 4 percent of the market? (Laughter.) I want to have products that appeal to everybody."
Face it, Microsoft makes crapware too. I will choose better designed software, music player & phone regardless of the popularity. Yes, give me 5%, thats the cream at the top. The curds can go to microsofts crapware division.
Cheers Ballmer!