I'm curious if any education, government, or developer discounts will apply to the iPhone. I'm guessing no, but it might be worth waiting until the store reopens to see. I hope the online store does reopen 6pm locally so I can check before walking into my local AT&T store!
iPod discounts exist, but are minor.
80GB iPod retail: $349
Government: $328 (6%)
Developer: $314 (10%)
Not sure about Education, probably around Government.
You can't really spoof too much of this easily. Besides, very few people are going to even try.
I do understand that only a minority would even try, but it's not that hard, it's only a matter of knowing it can be done and using something that does it. Anonimizer servers abound. Opera even has user agent spoofing in the menu in the default install. No one would know that I am using Opera on OS X PPC if it tells the server that I am using Internet Explorer, meaning that it's going to get all three of those points wrong.
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Anyway, your IP reflects whether you are using NAT.
I think most people using a hardware router/firewall is using a NAT. As far as a server is concerned, the person is using the new IP.
[QUOTE=JeffDM;1103592]I do understand that only a minority would even try, but it's not that hard, it's only a matter of knowing it can be done and using something that does it. Anonimizer servers abound. Opera even has user agent spoofing in the menu in the default install. No one would know that I am using Opera on OS X PPC if it tells the server that I am using Internet Explorer, meaning that it's going to get all three of those points wrong.
That stuff probably wouldn't get past the store, if it is deliberately checking to see where you're from.
Safari lets you do that as well I believe.
Besides, it will still see the IP, and machine type. If you use servers, and have an account with them, that don't allow any of that through, the store wouldn't give you the page, because it wants that. It would shuffle you to a non store page.
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I think most people using a hardware router/firewall is using a NAT. As far as a server is concerned, the person is using the new IP.
Yes, for people like myself, and some others here. But, most people still don't have networks at home, and don't use any router.
I'd be willing to bet that the online store doesn't open at different times across the country. Anywone willing to take me up on that?
I don't want to bet. But couldn't the checkout/sign-up/activation/billing/shiping process alert the store: You might see a pop-up that says, "Hey, no fair, you are in 85308 zip code, and it's only 4.23 PM Mountain Time!"
I don't want to bet. But couldn't the checkout/sign-up/activation/billing/shiping process alert the store: You might see a pop-up that says, "Hey, no fair, you are in 85308 zip code, and it's only 4.23 PM Mountain Time!"
Well, for all they know, you could be in New York on business and ordering it to be shipped to you back home in Colorado, or whatever. They can't really make assumptions on zip code vs. time zone or they'd mess up people who just happened to be out of town at the time.
Well, for all they know, you could be in New York on business and ordering it to be shipped to you back home in Colorado, or whatever. They can't really make assumptions on zip code vs. time zone or they'd mess up people who just happened to be out of town at the time.
I'm not sure they care about that. As long as you're in the correct timezone.
1) Either the dock that comes with the iPhone already has a place for charging the Bluetooth earpiece or the Bluetooth earpiece comes with an iPhone/ earpiece dock. Those are the only two solutions that make any sense.
2) I would really like a dock that will charge/sync and iPhone in front and an iPod in back.
3) I predict that the medium size (480x272) videos that Apple has been releasing this week will be included on the iPhone for immediate playback prior to syncing and setting up.
I don't want to bet. But couldn't the checkout/sign-up/activation/billing/shiping process alert the store: You might see a pop-up that says, "Hey, no fair, you are in 85308 zip code, and it's only 4.23 PM Mountain Time!"
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Originally Posted by jennyg
Well, for all they know, you could be in New York on business and ordering it to be shipped to you back home in Colorado, or whatever. They can't really make assumptions on zip code vs. time zone or they'd mess up people who just happened to be out of town at the time.
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Originally Posted by melgross
I'm not sure they care about that. As long as you're in the correct timezone.
I think the simplest of those solutions is to monitor via the shipping address. If they go by IP address I could ask a friend or relative to purchase for me via the phone, IM, email.
However, I think Apple will open the store to everyone at the same time starting at 6pm PST. This would create a much higher demand at stores in ESTs, which will surely generate more press which in turn will cause purchasers in other time-zones to get even more frenzied for the device.
And Apple STILL doesn't tell us whether the keyboard can rotate to landscape orientation.
It doesn't. I'm fairly certain Jobs mentioned this all the way back in January, stating something to the effect that landscape mode only works when it makes sense to do so. A landscape virtual keyboard doesn't make sense because it would consume too much of the screen.
Of course, just like all the other questions, a hands-on demo this Friday will provide all the answers.
Does the keyboard rotate when you rotate the iPhone? Only in the Web browser. That’s a shame, because the rotated keyboard, stretching the full length of the screen, is much bigger and easier to use than the narrow version.
That keyboard does look a lot larger and therefore perhaps less error-prone. There's less left to see, but I bet they could make it work.
And Apple STILL doesn't tell us whether the keyboard can rotate to landscape orientation.
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Originally Posted by melgross
They would have no reason not to, and every reason to, I would suspect that as they show the phone revolving for other features, they would surely show it for this critical one as well. No phone reviewer has mentioned a horizontal keyboard layout.
Since they don't, it's not likely that it does.
But, this is one of the things that a software update/upgrade could correct, as it is just a program, and isn't hardwired.
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Originally Posted by BRussell
Just saw this picture from a new Pogue review.
Here's what Pogue says:
That keyboard does look a lot larger and therefore perhaps less error-prone. There's less left to see, but I bet they could make it work.
That keyboard does look a lot larger and therefore perhaps less error-prone. There's less left to see, but I bet they could make it work.
Per the recent video, I think Apple's solution to "make it work" is to use Dictionary.app to predict keys and expand their input area to surrounding keys that it assumes you won't possibly use.
I guess all those gamers and MySpace users buying iPhones are going to have to do away with their internet speak and resort to using English again.
That Pogue FAQ also has a tiny Easter egg in it (although some may say it's slightly rotten):
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At the moment, it communicates only with hands-free devices like Bluetooth headsets (including Apple’s very tiny one, coming in July)
No $130 BT headset and dual dock on launch, apparently.
Also, a better Easter egg:
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Can the iPhone receive songs, files, calendar appointments, contacts or software updates wirelessly? No, only from your computer through the U.S.B. charging cradle. But this is kind of neat: Unlike the iPod, there’s no “do not disconnect” message during syncing. You can yank the iPhone out of the cradle whenever you like — to answer a call, for example; syncing resumes when you’re done. You can also operate the iPhone while it is charging.
True(er) plug-and-play has finally made it to OS X?
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I'm curious if any education, government, or developer discounts will apply to the iPhone. I'm guessing no, but it might be worth waiting until the store reopens to see. I hope the online store does reopen 6pm locally so I can check before walking into my local AT&T store!
iPod discounts exist, but are minor.
80GB iPod retail: $349
Government: $328 (6%)
Developer: $314 (10%)
Not sure about Education, probably around Government.
OK, how does one sign up to be a 'developer?'
OK, how does one sign up to be a 'developer?'
Here:
http://developer.apple.com/products/
Jeff, you're going way past.
You can't really spoof too much of this easily. Besides, very few people are going to even try.
I do understand that only a minority would even try, but it's not that hard, it's only a matter of knowing it can be done and using something that does it. Anonimizer servers abound. Opera even has user agent spoofing in the menu in the default install. No one would know that I am using Opera on OS X PPC if it tells the server that I am using Internet Explorer, meaning that it's going to get all three of those points wrong.
Anyway, your IP reflects whether you are using NAT.
I think most people using a hardware router/firewall is using a NAT. As far as a server is concerned, the person is using the new IP.
Here:
http://developer.apple.com/products/
Thanks........ Almost signed up for the "free" membership. Then, conscience prevailed.
That stuff probably wouldn't get past the store, if it is deliberately checking to see where you're from.
Safari lets you do that as well I believe.
Besides, it will still see the IP, and machine type. If you use servers, and have an account with them, that don't allow any of that through, the store wouldn't give you the page, because it wants that. It would shuffle you to a non store page.
I think most people using a hardware router/firewall is using a NAT. As far as a server is concerned, the person is using the new IP.
Yes, for people like myself, and some others here. But, most people still don't have networks at home, and don't use any router.
I'd be willing to bet that the online store doesn't open at different times across the country. Anywone willing to take me up on that?
I don't want to bet. But couldn't the checkout/sign-up/activation/billing/shiping process alert the store: You might see a pop-up that says, "Hey, no fair, you are in 85308 zip code, and it's only 4.23 PM Mountain Time!"
I don't want to bet. But couldn't the checkout/sign-up/activation/billing/shiping process alert the store: You might see a pop-up that says, "Hey, no fair, you are in 85308 zip code, and it's only 4.23 PM Mountain Time!"
Well, for all they know, you could be in New York on business and ordering it to be shipped to you back home in Colorado, or whatever. They can't really make assumptions on zip code vs. time zone or they'd mess up people who just happened to be out of town at the time.
Well, for all they know, you could be in New York on business and ordering it to be shipped to you back home in Colorado, or whatever. They can't really make assumptions on zip code vs. time zone or they'd mess up people who just happened to be out of town at the time.
I'm not sure they care about that. As long as you're in the correct timezone.
2) I would really like a dock that will charge/sync and iPhone in front and an iPod in back.
3) I predict that the medium size (480x272) videos that Apple has been releasing this week will be included on the iPhone for immediate playback prior to syncing and setting up.
I don't want to bet. But couldn't the checkout/sign-up/activation/billing/shiping process alert the store: You might see a pop-up that says, "Hey, no fair, you are in 85308 zip code, and it's only 4.23 PM Mountain Time!"
Well, for all they know, you could be in New York on business and ordering it to be shipped to you back home in Colorado, or whatever. They can't really make assumptions on zip code vs. time zone or they'd mess up people who just happened to be out of town at the time.
I'm not sure they care about that. As long as you're in the correct timezone.
I think the simplest of those solutions is to monitor via the shipping address. If they go by IP address I could ask a friend or relative to purchase for me via the phone, IM, email.
However, I think Apple will open the store to everyone at the same time starting at 6pm PST. This would create a much higher demand at stores in ESTs, which will surely generate more press which in turn will cause purchasers in other time-zones to get even more frenzied for the device.
And Apple STILL doesn't tell us whether the keyboard can rotate to landscape orientation.
It doesn't. I'm fairly certain Jobs mentioned this all the way back in January, stating something to the effect that landscape mode only works when it makes sense to do so. A landscape virtual keyboard doesn't make sense because it would consume too much of the screen.
Of course, just like all the other questions, a hands-on demo this Friday will provide all the answers.
Here's what Pogue says:
Does the keyboard rotate when you rotate the iPhone? Only in the Web browser. That’s a shame, because the rotated keyboard, stretching the full length of the screen, is much bigger and easier to use than the narrow version.
That keyboard does look a lot larger and therefore perhaps less error-prone. There's less left to see, but I bet they could make it work.
And Apple STILL doesn't tell us whether the keyboard can rotate to landscape orientation.
They would have no reason not to, and every reason to, I would suspect that as they show the phone revolving for other features, they would surely show it for this critical one as well. No phone reviewer has mentioned a horizontal keyboard layout.
Since they don't, it's not likely that it does.
But, this is one of the things that a software update/upgrade could correct, as it is just a program, and isn't hardwired.
Just saw this picture from a new Pogue review.
Here's what Pogue says:
That keyboard does look a lot larger and therefore perhaps less error-prone. There's less left to see, but I bet they could make it work.
Yup, the Pogue FAQ has a lot of cool info in it.
That keyboard does look a lot larger and therefore perhaps less error-prone. There's less left to see, but I bet they could make it work.
Per the recent video, I think Apple's solution to "make it work" is to use Dictionary.app to predict keys and expand their input area to surrounding keys that it assumes you won't possibly use.
I guess all those gamers and MySpace users buying iPhones are going to have to do away with their internet speak and resort to using English again.
I guess all those gamers and MySpace users buying iPhones are going to have to do away with their internet speak and resort to using English again.
It's about damn time, I say. On the other hand, it's mentioned in the tutorial that the iPhone learns words that you type often, even proper nouns.
Yup, the Pogue FAQ has a lot of cool info in it.
If it's only in the browser, it hardly counts, does it?
This forum is taking up 80% of the typing I do in the browser. But that's only about 5% of the typing I do.
I doubt if many are going to do what we do here from out phones.
At the moment, it communicates only with hands-free devices like Bluetooth headsets (including Apple’s very tiny one, coming in July)
No $130 BT headset and dual dock on launch, apparently.
Also, a better Easter egg:
Can the iPhone receive songs, files, calendar appointments, contacts or software updates wirelessly? No, only from your computer through the U.S.B. charging cradle. But this is kind of neat: Unlike the iPod, there’s no “do not disconnect” message during syncing. You can yank the iPhone out of the cradle whenever you like — to answer a call, for example; syncing resumes when you’re done. You can also operate the iPhone while it is charging.
True(er) plug-and-play has finally made it to OS X?