Apple wouldn't really surprise me with this. They dropped their low end iBook at $999 and replaced it with the low end MacBook at $1099. More than a year later, it's the same price.
Exactly. Welcome to the dark side of Apple. Granted though the low-end 17 inch iMac had integrated graphics, among other things, and was, in my mind, a hobbled machine. It never even was an option for me.
Exactly. Welcome to the dark side of Apple. Granted though the low-end 17 inch iMac had integrated graphics, among other things, and was, in my mind, a hobbled machine. It never even was an option for me.
For all we know, Apple may have found that not many of the $999 iMacs are selling, even though they're just under a grand.
I hate to use a car analogy but at the end of a model year, it seems frequently that the low end models with the fewest options are the ones left over.
1 Gig of RAM would be criminal for any computer over $700 these days, a total mismatch for any processor you'd expect in the iMac's pricerange (fast dual core processors, I imagine).
I don't know - somehow I believe that they are going to bring down the 24" imac at 1799 price point to introduce a "one more thing" imac at 30" and 2199 or a 24" and a BD-ROM at 2199. Either way, something else is afoot with the iMac. When His Steveness suggested "off the charts" iMac, I am sure he did not just see a metallic iMac. This would also have an HDCP compliant DVI or HDMI port of some sort.
Also the .Mac stuff - man, everyone talks about more space etc. Why not ".Mac is your mac on the net" ? Already SJ has said that Leopard has the ability to bring remote logons to your home mac - it would only be fitting to make this available with .Mac today.
I don't know - somehow I believe that they are going to bring down the 24" imac at 1799 price point to introduce a "one more thing" imac at 30" and 2199...
That would be sweet. I'm in the market for a 30" display. If I could get that and a nice new Mac to go with it for $2199, I might actually consider getting an iMac, even though I hate the all-in-one concept. Somehow I doubt it will happen this year.
Of course - well may be when u put it that way, it may be more like 2499 (mac mini 699 + 30" 1799). Guess I have to start begging the wife big time, about now.
What I don't understand is that the iMac looks nice and all when it stands up without anything else attached. It becomes ugly and untenable when you connect a USB printer, Scanner, external drive and a camera. Now not everyone (i mean no one really) likes to disconnect and connect cables everytime they use these devices.
Why not provide the power cord with all the ports at the other end (much like the power + the unfortunately closed down Marathon Reporter kind of device at the other end so that all the ugliness is hidden under the desk rather than above and on the sides of the iMac ? I believe this compromises the design to a large extent.
I think the combo drive is dead folks, i do not see the point in including it anymore.
I also think that a look at the MBP's is the best indication of the way that the new iMacs will be split...
20": 2.2GHz
* 2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
* 1GB memory
* 160GB hard drive1
* 8x double-layer SuperDrive
* NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics with 128MB SDRAM
$1,199.00
20" 2.4GHz
* 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
* 2GB memory
* 250GB hard drive1
* 8x double-layer SuperDrive
* NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics with 256MB SDRAM
$1,499.00
24" 2.4GHz
* 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
* 2GB memory
* 500GB hard drive1
* 8x double-layer SuperDrive
* NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics with 512MB SDRAM
$1,799.00
I agree with these specs the most however I think 500GB HD may be pushing it, I wasn't aware the 8600 has a 512MB version but if it does and it's available that would be awesome. That best one seems too close to a Mac Pro's specs (aside from the processor) to me.
What is this talk of thorny bushes, shamrocks, and shenanigans? Sounds lik e time for a Susan McKeown standard Ord Mhle Gra (A Thousand Times My Love).
that was WAY more confusing than my original post, which i admit, was pretty confusing.
combo drives are dead.
3 price points. 20", souped up 20", and 24".
hardware bumps and a lot better ilife and .mac integration with iphone (video streaming and what not)
I hope not. I don't want to pay for 2GB that I will throw away and replace with 3 or 4 GB (depending upon CPU support).
I would prefer a high-end machine with MAX RAM or none at all.
Apple might go to the pricing scheme they now have for the Mac Pro. Have a base price, and allow customers pick and choose the options, such as cpu speed, GPU (they offered two for the 24"), memory, HHD, etc.
For all we know, Apple may have found that not many of the $999 iMacs are selling, even though they're just under a grand.
I hate to use a car analogy but at the end of a model year, it seems frequently that the low end models with the fewest options are the ones left over.
The biggest buyers of the 17" have been the K-12 school systems. They have been moving, on the high school level at least, to the 20" models.
I hope they dont take Mac Pro scheme and learned from their losses.
That system only works well for USA residents or countries with an Apple Store. But for the rest its a pain in the butt cause it restrict options.
For an example, Latin America. You are forced to buy from distribuitors stock models, no BTO allowed, this situation it not only happen in my area, also in Asia, even some countries in Europe.
I used to sell a lot of entry level G5 Towers, now I have sold only 5 stock machines and 2 USA orders for 8cores.
It was way different for a customer to pay for a G5 2.3 Dual Core tower $2,600.00 than pay $3,150.00 for a 2.66 quad Mac Pro.
Its expensive to buy a Mac here cause the taxes and the shipping, Still dont understand people in USA complaining about prices when those folks earn so much money, sure they have a higher cost in some services/stuff but its kind of lame.
A 512 8600GT would be sweet on the 24", I really dont care HD DVD or Blue Ray, when it becomes an standard in a couple of years I will buy a stand alone player/recorder. No need to worry about.
I hope they dont take Mac Pro scheme and learned from their losses.
That system only works well for USA residents or countries with an Apple Store. But for the rest its a pain in the butt cause it restrict options.
For an example, Latin America. You are forced to buy from distribuitors stock models, no BTO allowed, this situation it not only happen in my area, also in Asia, even some countries in Europe.
I used to sell a lot of entry level G5 Towers, now I have sold only 5 stock machines and 2 USA orders for 8cores.
It was way different for a customer to pay for a G5 2.3 Dual Core tower $2,600.00 than pay $3,150.00 for a 2.66 quad Mac Pro.
Its expensive to buy a Mac here cause the taxes and the shipping, Still dont understand people in USA complaining about prices when those folks earn so much money, sure they have a higher cost in some services/stuff but its kind of lame.
A 512 8600GT would be sweet on the 24", I really dont care HD DVD or Blue Ray, when it becomes an standard in a couple of years I will buy a stand alone player/recorder. No need to worry about.
I'm sorry for you guys that don't have an Apple store, but that doesn't mean that we should have the same problems you have.
I don't agree that Apple should go for the lowest common denominator. The biggest market for its goods are right here.
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Apple wouldn't really surprise me with this. They dropped their low end iBook at $999 and replaced it with the low end MacBook at $1099. More than a year later, it's the same price.
Exactly. Welcome to the dark side of Apple. Granted though the low-end 17 inch iMac had integrated graphics, among other things, and was, in my mind, a hobbled machine. It never even was an option for me.
Exactly. Welcome to the dark side of Apple. Granted though the low-end 17 inch iMac had integrated graphics, among other things, and was, in my mind, a hobbled machine. It never even was an option for me.
For all we know, Apple may have found that not many of the $999 iMacs are selling, even though they're just under a grand.
I hate to use a car analogy but at the end of a model year, it seems frequently that the low end models with the fewest options are the ones left over.
Also the .Mac stuff - man, everyone talks about more space etc. Why not ".Mac is your mac on the net" ? Already SJ has said that Leopard has the ability to bring remote logons to your home mac - it would only be fitting to make this available with .Mac today.
12 more hours are unbearable.
I don't know - somehow I believe that they are going to bring down the 24" imac at 1799 price point to introduce a "one more thing" imac at 30" and 2199...
That would be sweet. I'm in the market for a 30" display. If I could get that and a nice new Mac to go with it for $2199, I might actually consider getting an iMac, even though I hate the all-in-one concept. Somehow I doubt it will happen this year.
What I don't understand is that the iMac looks nice and all when it stands up without anything else attached. It becomes ugly and untenable when you connect a USB printer, Scanner, external drive and a camera. Now not everyone (i mean no one really) likes to disconnect and connect cables everytime they use these devices.
Why not provide the power cord with all the ports at the other end (much like the power + the unfortunately closed down Marathon Reporter kind of device at the other end so that all the ugliness is hidden under the desk rather than above and on the sides of the iMac ? I believe this compromises the design to a large extent.
I think the combo drive is dead folks, i do not see the point in including it anymore.
I also think that a look at the MBP's is the best indication of the way that the new iMacs will be split...
20": 2.2GHz
* 2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
* 1GB memory
* 160GB hard drive1
* 8x double-layer SuperDrive
* NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics with 128MB SDRAM
$1,199.00
20" 2.4GHz
* 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
* 2GB memory
* 250GB hard drive1
* 8x double-layer SuperDrive
* NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics with 256MB SDRAM
$1,499.00
24" 2.4GHz
* 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
* 2GB memory
* 500GB hard drive1
* 8x double-layer SuperDrive
* NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics with 512MB SDRAM
$1,799.00
I agree with these specs the most however I think 500GB HD may be pushing it, I wasn't aware the 8600 has a 512MB version but if it does and it's available that would be awesome. That best one seems too close to a Mac Pro's specs (aside from the processor) to me.
kcd
Santa Rosa treatment for the AIO iMac:
New case design
4MB L2 cache Core 2 Duo
800 MHz FSB
AirPort Extreme 802.11g/n, Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR
New keyboard design
$1199
20-inch
2.2 GHz Core 2 Duo
1GB memory
160GB hard drive
8x DL SuperDrive
NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS graphics with 256MB SDRAM
$1499
20-inch
2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo
1GB memory
250GB hard drive
8x DL SuperDrive
NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT graphics with 256MB SDRAM
$1799
24-inch
2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo
2GB memory
500GB hard drive
16x DL SuperDrive (Blu-ray option?)
NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT graphics with 256MB SDRAM
What is this talk of thorny bushes, shamrocks, and shenanigans? Sounds lik e time for a Susan McKeown standard Ord Mhle Gra (A Thousand Times My Love).
that was WAY more confusing than my original post, which i admit, was pretty confusing.
combo drives are dead.
3 price points. 20", souped up 20", and 24".
hardware bumps and a lot better ilife and .mac integration with iphone (video streaming and what not)
none of this fancy shmancy multi touch. too early
kcd
"Top-end will hopefully ship with 2GB RAM."
I hope not. I don't want to pay for 2GB that I will throw away and replace with 3 or 4 GB (depending upon CPU support).
I would prefer a high-end machine with MAX RAM or none at all.
Apple might go to the pricing scheme they now have for the Mac Pro. Have a base price, and allow customers pick and choose the options, such as cpu speed, GPU (they offered two for the 24"), memory, HHD, etc.
That would be the best way.
For all we know, Apple may have found that not many of the $999 iMacs are selling, even though they're just under a grand.
I hate to use a car analogy but at the end of a model year, it seems frequently that the low end models with the fewest options are the ones left over.
The biggest buyers of the 17" have been the K-12 school systems. They have been moving, on the high school level at least, to the 20" models.
If the mini is updated, I hope they put in a real graphics card.
I'm guessing quad core with higher res displays along with new cases for the iMac.
If the mini is updated, I hope they put in a real graphics card.
Never happen. If they did that, they would have to change the entire case design to something bigger, and then it wouldn't be the Mini anymore.
Maybe the Maxi.
That system only works well for USA residents or countries with an Apple Store. But for the rest its a pain in the butt cause it restrict options.
For an example, Latin America. You are forced to buy from distribuitors stock models, no BTO allowed, this situation it not only happen in my area, also in Asia, even some countries in Europe.
I used to sell a lot of entry level G5 Towers, now I have sold only 5 stock machines and 2 USA orders for 8cores.
It was way different for a customer to pay for a G5 2.3 Dual Core tower $2,600.00 than pay $3,150.00 for a 2.66 quad Mac Pro.
Its expensive to buy a Mac here cause the taxes and the shipping, Still dont understand people in USA complaining about prices when those folks earn so much money, sure they have a higher cost in some services/stuff but its kind of lame.
A 512 8600GT would be sweet on the 24", I really dont care HD DVD or Blue Ray, when it becomes an standard in a couple of years I will buy a stand alone player/recorder. No need to worry about.
Maybe Mac Pro will be given a new partner, a screen with a camera....
Not likely as most pro users have multiple displays, and having mulitple displays with built-in iSight cams would be a waste..
Because of this, I really don't see the Cinema Displays ever including built in cams.
Not likely as most pro users have multiple displays, and having mulitple displays with built-in iSight cams would be a waste..
Because of this, I really don't see the Cinema Displays ever including built in cams.
Amen to that ! Of course this also means iSight would be available as a separate option
Then again, they may have a way of mounting the isight into the frame should you need one.
A 512 8600GT would be sweet on the 24"....
hmm, i wonder if there will be a 512MB GPU in the top-end machine, considering the MBP might have one that has been crippled to 256....
I hope they dont take Mac Pro scheme and learned from their losses.
That system only works well for USA residents or countries with an Apple Store. But for the rest its a pain in the butt cause it restrict options.
For an example, Latin America. You are forced to buy from distribuitors stock models, no BTO allowed, this situation it not only happen in my area, also in Asia, even some countries in Europe.
I used to sell a lot of entry level G5 Towers, now I have sold only 5 stock machines and 2 USA orders for 8cores.
It was way different for a customer to pay for a G5 2.3 Dual Core tower $2,600.00 than pay $3,150.00 for a 2.66 quad Mac Pro.
Its expensive to buy a Mac here cause the taxes and the shipping, Still dont understand people in USA complaining about prices when those folks earn so much money, sure they have a higher cost in some services/stuff but its kind of lame.
A 512 8600GT would be sweet on the 24", I really dont care HD DVD or Blue Ray, when it becomes an standard in a couple of years I will buy a stand alone player/recorder. No need to worry about.
I'm sorry for you guys that don't have an Apple store, but that doesn't mean that we should have the same problems you have.
I don't agree that Apple should go for the lowest common denominator. The biggest market for its goods are right here.