I am a longtime user of iWork. I would use Pages mainly for its page layout though. I would get frustrated with using it as a basic word processor. I used Text edit for most of my letters. I can't wait for my copy of Pages 08'. I am going to love the new contextual menus! I cannot think of one reason to fire up my old MS Word/Excel anymore! I hope Google Documents continues to improve---thats what I use to open all of the MS Office email attachments. Can't wait for Leopard!!!
Word *will not* open regular Pages documents, though, as far as I've tested, Word will open any Pages document I've exported to .doc format without flaw. You can copy text from Pages into Word, but you'll lose minor formatting (the high end stuff like tracked changes and notes, not boldface, italics, line spacing, and all that).
I don't do layout with word processing programs, so I must admit that I don't plan on testing how Pages deals with masking or adding images to text. Instead, I just take the text I've written in Word and import it to InDesign for layout with images. However, the original Pages worked fine for basic layouts, so I assume Pages '08 will provide more of the same.
And speaking of InDesign: It *will not* recognize Pages documents (so you can't place text from Pages via the menu command). However, it *will* recognize and place text from Word documents exported from Pages. In addition, you can copy the text from a Pages document and paste it directly into an InDesign page with no loss of formatting. According to InDesign, it is "Placing RTF Text," so Pages must copy text as RTF by default. So, getting text from Pages to InDesign: simple with a few easy workarounds. Honestly, however, I expect an import plug-in for Pages coming for InDesign very soon if there already isn't one.
Word *will not* open regular Pages documents, though, as far as I've tested, Word will open any Pages document I've exported to .doc format without flaw. You can copy text from Pages into Word, but you'll lose minor formatting (the high end stuff like tracked changes and notes, not boldface, italics, line spacing, and all that).
And speaking of InDesign: It *will not* recognize Pages documents (so you can't place text from Pages via the menu command). However, it *will* recognize and place text from Word documents exported from Pages. In addition, you can copy the text from a Pages document and paste it directly into an InDesign page with no loss of formatting. According to InDesign, it is "Placing RTF Text," so Pages must copy text as RTF by default. So, getting text from Pages to InDesign: simple with a few easy workarounds. Honestly, however, I expect an import plug-in for Pages coming for InDesign very soon if there already isn't one.
Hmm, although it isn't a deal breaker for me, it seems odd that you lose the track changes function when going from Pages to Word, but not the other way around. That seems like something that Apple should be fixing with an update soon.
As for InDesign, I guess it was too much to ask for native support up-front. Still, I bet Adobe announces a plug-in for Pages text support in the near future. Adobe is pretty good about that.
I'm new to iWork and havn't even opened the demo that came with my powerbook back in '06. I am downloading the demo to '08 now and plan of ridding myself of the MS umbrella completely if the two documents I must open every month work. I had to buy Office '04 just for this purpose. I would much rather give my money to a company that will actually listen to their customers and improve their products.
Keep up the work Apple and you'll keep me as a loyal customer for years to come.
I'm new to iWork and havn't even opened the demo that came with my powerbook back in '06. I am downloading the demo to '08 now and plan of ridding myself of the MS umbrella completely if the two documents I must open every month work. I had to buy Office '04 just for this purpose. I would much rather give my money to a company that will actually listen to their customers and improve their products.
Keep up the work Apple and you'll keep me as a loyal customer for years to come.
i just got my new macbook a few weeks ago along with ilife & a licensed (not demo) iwork.
you think i could qualify for a free upgrade to both?
thanks!
Check out http://www.apple.com/ilife/uptodate to see if you qualify for iLife upgrade. I just called support and got iLife for $10 because I purchased my computer a week ago.
I gotta say I've been mostly impressed with iWork too... v1.0 of pages was a little on the shaky side but Apple addressed most of the peoples 'must have' features that were missing...
Keynote has always blown me away... even if it lacked some of the features people were accustom to having and over the various releases it's only gotten better and better and better... I really wish I still had a need to utilize it...
One thing that to this day I would LOVE for Apple to roll out is a 'keynote player engine' for Windows... Yea I know it would be more than just a little work but it would be SO cool to be able to send a truly DROOL-WORTHY Keynote presentation to a Windows user and let them turn green with envy and have them demand to know why they can't do stuff...
The new Pages is phenomenal. I'll be using it exclusively over Word. I didn't think I would ever find something to replace it, Apple has proven me wrong. And the new Numbers is great too. I don't use Keynote much.
Now if only they incorporated note-taking into Pages... I can just use Schoolhouse for that though. I'm a happy camper.
One thing that to this day I would LOVE for Apple to roll out is a 'keynote player engine' for Windows... Yea I know it would be more than just a little work but it would be SO cool to be able to send a truly DROOL-WORTHY Keynote presentation to a Windows user and let them turn green with envy and have them demand to know why they can't do stuff...
Dave
I would love that too. A lot of places have windows PCs hooked to projectors, and I'd love to be able to plug in a USB drive thingy and go to it, rather than having to to bring my laptop along. Perhaps it depends too heavily on Mac-specific features?
I would love that too. A lot of places have windows PCs hooked to projectors, and I'd love to be able to plug in a USB drive thingy and go to it, rather than having to to bring my laptop along. Perhaps it depends too heavily on Mac-specific features?
Yep yep yep... Giving Apple the benefit of the doubt I too feel its too dependent on OS X core technologies... but then again, Apple is notorious for all but ignoring 'the business environment'... It shows with its implementation of ActiveDirectory and its lackluster SMB support (both of these were 'past issues' I had so they may have been fixed) One particularly nasty bug was tripped off with a combination of Office 2004 Excel and opening/editing a spreadsheet followed by someone else on the net opening the file as readonly... things got VERY screwed up and went unfixed for the better part of A YEAR...
Hmm, although it isn't a deal breaker for me, it seems odd that you lose the track changes function when going from Pages to Word, but not the other way around. That seems like something that Apple should be fixing with an update soon.
I think you misunderstood, donebylee. Pages will *export* flawlessly to Word .doc format via Pages' export function (all formatting will be translated, as will changes and comments information). However, using the "copy and paste" function from Pages to Word or vice versa will give you only the formatted text (which, of course, includes only the text's font, size, style, and that sort of thing). As far as I know, however, using the copy/paste function will *never* bring along additional "document-specific" information like changes and comments, regardless of what word-processing software you're using.
I've just tried to export some of the included templates with a few adjustments that I've made. With one very small change in test format (i.e. added brackets to one word which can be deleted) it worked flawlessly. I am going to purchase my copy of iWork '08 and rid myself of MS altogether. I find many keyboard shortcuts thesame thoughout all other Apple applications which is also a big plus!!
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Please post back with InDesign results as well..
Right on. Even a modest degree of interoperability with InDesign would be an attractive ? and useful ? feature.
Numbers can't open non-XML Excel spreadsheets...too bad.
Yes it can. Just tried it with the demo.
Where's the link to the 30 day trial?
http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite....ork08Trial.dmg
http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite....ork08Trial.dmg
Gracias.
Word *will not* open regular Pages documents, though, as far as I've tested, Word will open any Pages document I've exported to .doc format without flaw. You can copy text from Pages into Word, but you'll lose minor formatting (the high end stuff like tracked changes and notes, not boldface, italics, line spacing, and all that).
I don't do layout with word processing programs, so I must admit that I don't plan on testing how Pages deals with masking or adding images to text. Instead, I just take the text I've written in Word and import it to InDesign for layout with images. However, the original Pages worked fine for basic layouts, so I assume Pages '08 will provide more of the same.
And speaking of InDesign: It *will not* recognize Pages documents (so you can't place text from Pages via the menu command). However, it *will* recognize and place text from Word documents exported from Pages. In addition, you can copy the text from a Pages document and paste it directly into an InDesign page with no loss of formatting. According to InDesign, it is "Placing RTF Text," so Pages must copy text as RTF by default. So, getting text from Pages to InDesign: simple with a few easy workarounds. Honestly, however, I expect an import plug-in for Pages coming for InDesign very soon if there already isn't one.
A bit more of an update:
Word *will not* open regular Pages documents, though, as far as I've tested, Word will open any Pages document I've exported to .doc format without flaw. You can copy text from Pages into Word, but you'll lose minor formatting (the high end stuff like tracked changes and notes, not boldface, italics, line spacing, and all that).
And speaking of InDesign: It *will not* recognize Pages documents (so you can't place text from Pages via the menu command). However, it *will* recognize and place text from Word documents exported from Pages. In addition, you can copy the text from a Pages document and paste it directly into an InDesign page with no loss of formatting. According to InDesign, it is "Placing RTF Text," so Pages must copy text as RTF by default. So, getting text from Pages to InDesign: simple with a few easy workarounds. Honestly, however, I expect an import plug-in for Pages coming for InDesign very soon if there already isn't one.
Hmm, although it isn't a deal breaker for me, it seems odd that you lose the track changes function when going from Pages to Word, but not the other way around. That seems like something that Apple should be fixing with an update soon.
As for InDesign, I guess it was too much to ask for native support up-front. Still, I bet Adobe announces a plug-in for Pages text support in the near future. Adobe is pretty good about that.
Keep up the work Apple and you'll keep me as a loyal customer for years to come.
I'm new to iWork and havn't even opened the demo that came with my powerbook back in '06. I am downloading the demo to '08 now and plan of ridding myself of the MS umbrella completely if the two documents I must open every month work. I had to buy Office '04 just for this purpose. I would much rather give my money to a company that will actually listen to their customers and improve their products.
Keep up the work Apple and you'll keep me as a loyal customer for years to come.
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i just got my new macbook a few weeks ago along with ilife & a licensed (not demo) iwork.
you think i could qualify for a free upgrade to both?
thanks!
Check out http://www.apple.com/ilife/uptodate to see if you qualify for iLife upgrade. I just called support and got iLife for $10 because I purchased my computer a week ago.
Keynote has always blown me away... even if it lacked some of the features people were accustom to having and over the various releases it's only gotten better and better and better... I really wish I still had a need to utilize it...
One thing that to this day I would LOVE for Apple to roll out is a 'keynote player engine' for Windows... Yea I know it would be more than just a little work but it would be SO cool to be able to send a truly DROOL-WORTHY Keynote presentation to a Windows user and let them turn green with envy and have them demand to know why they can't do stuff...
Dave
Now if only they incorporated note-taking into Pages... I can just use Schoolhouse for that though. I'm a happy camper.
One thing that to this day I would LOVE for Apple to roll out is a 'keynote player engine' for Windows... Yea I know it would be more than just a little work but it would be SO cool to be able to send a truly DROOL-WORTHY Keynote presentation to a Windows user and let them turn green with envy and have them demand to know why they can't do stuff...
Dave
I would love that too. A lot of places have windows PCs hooked to projectors, and I'd love to be able to plug in a USB drive thingy and go to it, rather than having to to bring my laptop along. Perhaps it depends too heavily on Mac-specific features?
I would love that too. A lot of places have windows PCs hooked to projectors, and I'd love to be able to plug in a USB drive thingy and go to it, rather than having to to bring my laptop along. Perhaps it depends too heavily on Mac-specific features?
Yep yep yep... Giving Apple the benefit of the doubt I too feel its too dependent on OS X core technologies... but then again, Apple is notorious for all but ignoring 'the business environment'... It shows with its implementation of ActiveDirectory and its lackluster SMB support (both of these were 'past issues' I had so they may have been fixed) One particularly nasty bug was tripped off with a combination of Office 2004 Excel and opening/editing a spreadsheet followed by someone else on the net opening the file as readonly... things got VERY screwed up and went unfixed for the better part of A YEAR...
Apple pointed to MS and vice-versa
Dave
Hmm, although it isn't a deal breaker for me, it seems odd that you lose the track changes function when going from Pages to Word, but not the other way around. That seems like something that Apple should be fixing with an update soon.
I think you misunderstood, donebylee. Pages will *export* flawlessly to Word .doc format via Pages' export function (all formatting will be translated, as will changes and comments information). However, using the "copy and paste" function from Pages to Word or vice versa will give you only the formatted text (which, of course, includes only the text's font, size, style, and that sort of thing). As far as I know, however, using the copy/paste function will *never* bring along additional "document-specific" information like changes and comments, regardless of what word-processing software you're using.