Next-gen MacBook Pro "Penryn" chips revealed

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
The next evolution of Apple Inc.'s MacBook Pro professional notebook line, on track for the first quarter of 2008, will tap a new breed of Core 2 Duo processors, details of which have just leaked on the web.



Rooted in Intel's Penryn technology, the future processors will share the same underpinnings as the Santa Rosa-based chip designs found in today's MacBook Pro systems but will shrink the manufacturing size from 65 nanometers (nm) down to 45, simultaneously cooling the processors and clearing room for both a ramp-up of clock speeds as well as more on-chip features.



In speaking to developers at its IDF forum this week, Intel chief executive Paul Otellini said the initial line of Penryn processors will provide up to a 20 percent performance increase over the 65nm models they will replace. The new chips will also use halogen-free packaging, he added, yielding chips that will not only be more energy efficient but also better for the environment.



Previous reports have indicated that Intel plans to launch the first five Penryn-based mobile Core 2 Duo processors in January, and thanks to the increasingly reliable DigiTimes, there are now part numbers and pricing to go along with those chips. The cost of the new chips, when viewed alongside their corresponding clock frequencies, offers a near fail-safe method for determining which variants Apple will inevitably adopt for its professional notebook refresh.



The chips scheduled to launch in January will have the model names X9000 for the 2.8GHz CPU, T9500 for the 2.6GHz, T9300 for the 2.5GHz, T8300 for the 2.4GHz and T8100 for the 2.1GHz. They'll be priced at $851, $530, $316, $241 and $209 in 1000-unit tray quantities, respectively. All five of the chips will continue to make use of an 800MHz front-side bus like those in the current iteration of Apple's MacBook Pro line.



Of the five chips, the X9000 2.8GHz model is considered a mobile Core 2 Extreme processor, and it's unclear if Apple has any plans for that variant in a notebook system. In its brief history of using Intel processors, the Cupertino-based company has shied away from using the pricier, more power-hungry Extremes in its streamlined portable systems.



MacBook Pro-bound Intel Core 2 Duo Mobile Penryn specs and prices



On the other hand, the upcoming T9500 2.6GHz and T9300 2.5GHz Penryn chips are slated to arrive at exactly the same price points ($530 and $316) as the T7700 2.4GHz and T7500 2.2GHz Merom-based processors currently situated in the Mac maker's Santa Rosa-based MacBook Pro line, almost assuring their adoption in next year's models. The 2.6GHz and 2.5GHz chips will also sport 6MB of L2 Cache, differentiating them the 2.4GHz and 2.1GHz models, which contain only 3MB of L2 Cache.



Expectations for the next refresh to Apple's consumer-oriented 13-inch MacBook notebooks are less certain, however. Since the MacBook did not make the jump to Intel's Santa Rosa platform earlier this year, Apple effectively holds two options for progressing the portable line -- it could introduce a more cost-effective 65nm Merom-based line in the coming months or alternatively make the leap to the fresher 45nm Penryn-based chips early next year.
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  • Reply 1 of 50
    I think the MacBook market is marketed towards people who are more concerned with price than performance. If performance were the priority, surely the money to spend would be less of a priority?



    So that makes me thing Apple would use the less-costly 65nm chip in the next MacBook refresh.



    -=|Mgkwho
  • Reply 2 of 50
    The price differences don't make much sense. From 2.4 to 2.5GHz (plus more cache) is only $75, whereas 2.5 to 2.6GHz - only difference being .1Ghz - is $214. If these numbers are true, why would anyone buy the 2.6GHz because there would be (almost) no discernible difference? Based on that, I think the pricing/speed are not true.
  • Reply 3 of 50
    New Intel Chips are all fine & dandy



    - but when will we see a mid-range single-socket screenless Mac, for Stevessake?!!

  • Reply 4 of 50
    I'm just annoyed cause I need a new laptop, but I don't want to be outdated in 3 months *sigh*
  • Reply 5 of 50
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tomohr View Post


    I'm just annoyed cause I need a new laptop, but I don't want to be outdated in 3 months *sigh*





    C'est la vie
  • Reply 6 of 50
    yes, I think I will just wait till the day that leopard drops so I can have it a little while before they release the new chips so it seems like I didn't know it was going to happen
  • Reply 7 of 50
    looks like we might get new MBPs in January.



    MBs won't see Penryn update.....me thinks it's going to be SR update to MB line on January.



    Remember, it's not about how much it costs to buy chips to put in those books. it's about how to differentiate the market to be effective in both MB and MBP markets
  • Reply 8 of 50
    my laptop is almost a year old and it's still cruising along fine. clock speed isn't the only measure of performance. it's a 2.33 ghz c2d and it *seems* to run just as fast as the current models @ 2.4.



    i do wish i had the denser screen at 1680x1050.

    sadly, my TV [sharp aquos] is becoming obsolete faster than my laptop. [no hdmi 1.3, a portly 5.5" thick, and it's 10 months old]



    you can't wait for the NEXT great thing anymore, or you'll never buy anything.
  • Reply 9 of 50
    Yeh, my almost year-old MacBook Pro 2.33 C2D is running like a top. Not a single problem. I'd have to declare it the best Mac I've ever owned. Still I wouldn't mind a 2.8 GHz processor with more on-chip cache. If we were still using IBM or Moto chips, we would have had to wait two or three years for that .5 GHz jolt. Thank goodness for Intel inside.
  • Reply 10 of 50
    I agree that you can't always just wait for the next best thing, but when you can afford to wait knowing something's coming out around the corner, then why not? I sold my G4 iBook just last week, and am currently in the market for a Mac. But I don't know which one. I think it's still low end, maybe between the best Mini through MacBook to 24" iMac. But the the MacBook Pro looks not too far off pricewise. So I'm stuck and all the update rumours are only prolonging my wait. It's back to my AMD machine in the mean time.
  • Reply 11 of 50
    haggarhaggar Posts: 1,568member
    Will future Apple laptops allow people to remove the battery? Will users be required to sign up for an iTunes store account before they can use the laptop at all?
  • Reply 12 of 50
    19841984 Posts: 955member
    What happened to the subnotebook they were supposedly working on?
  • Reply 13 of 50
    mactelmactel Posts: 1,275member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by syklee26 View Post


    looks like we might get new MBPs in January.



    MBs won't see Penryn update.....me thinks it's going to be SR update to MB line on January.



    Remember, it's not about how much it costs to buy chips to put in those books. it's about how to differentiate the market to be effective in both MB and MBP markets



    Sure, and the MacBook Pro could differentiate a bit more if they offered a flash memory drive option.
  • Reply 14 of 50
    It will be interesting to see if this is the processor that Apple wants for an ultra lite notebook - probably in the Pro range.



    As for the MacBook, it could go with the lowest 2 speeds in this range, leaving the speed and L2 difference as the differentiation between the MB & MBP. It would seem that this approach would keep the engineering at the same level, making it cheaper and easier to update both.
  • Reply 15 of 50
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MacTel View Post


    Sure, and the MacBook Pro could differentiate a bit more if they offered a flash memory drive option.



    if i get a macbook pro with the current processer, is it possible to replace that processer with a new one?
  • Reply 16 of 50
    mactelmactel Posts: 1,275member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rich-Myster View Post


    if i get a macbook pro with the current processer, is it possible to replace that processer with a new one?



    From the second paragraph of the article I would believe so.
  • Reply 17 of 50
    If you know how to solder!
  • Reply 18 of 50
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
    I bought a MacBook Pro this year, I think I deserve a rebate since they are coming out with a new model so soon
  • Reply 19 of 50
    sweet so basically, what i think i'm going to do is yell at apple when it comes out and try to get them to replace the processer or something. hopefully this will work. i havn't even gotten my santa rosa one yet D: and i find out today it's going out of date in like 3 months. crazy.
  • Reply 20 of 50
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kenaustus View Post


    It will be interesting to see if this is the processor that Apple wants for an ultra lite notebook - probably in the Pro range.



    As for the MacBook, it could go with the lowest 2 speeds in this range, leaving the speed and L2 difference as the differentiation between the MB & MBP. It would seem that this approach would keep the engineering at the same level, making it cheaper and easier to update both.



    Presumably battery life would be better as well if Apple wen with Penryn in the MB vs. the SR meroms.
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