It'll be interesting to see what that meeting is about.
There were 2 earlier Quicktime rumours that went nowhere... but also have potential
1) Quicktime was being entirely rewritten, from the ground up, in cocoa.... etc
2) Apple doesn't just want to download a movie, but rather all the extras as well... like a DVD does.
I'm wondering whether the Final Cut meeting could be concerned with a new method of creating menus (ie: interactivity) for films.
Naturally, could easily be way, way off.
Whatever it is, it has to be something more than a triviality. From what I'm reading, a major upgrade would be out of the question though. That will likely wait until NAB, when they usually show one.
The xBox-flavored ones can, yes. Difference is, the HD DVDs can actually do something once they get online, while blu-Ray won't get internet-based features until they reach their Profile 2.0 status this time next year. That's HD DVD's big advantage by the way; it's a finished format
Yes, but that's not standard. You have to pay, what? $120 to $150, extra for it, and it isn't proving popular, with only 120 thousand sold. Barely a blip.
No it wasn't. I said, in so many words, that the reason the Blu Ray disk sales don't totally dwarf HD-DVD disks in sales is a direct correlation to the fact that many of the Blu Ray players that, the user I was speaking with was saying that "Blu Ray sold X amount more" of, is because many of those are strictly gaming consoles. Not strictly Players. If that # was all stand alone blu ray players yes it would probably totally obliterate HD-DVD like that user claimed Blu Ray should have been.
And then you came in and said something to me that looked as if I was saying something different than I was.
So no it really wasn't that clear to me. I don't think you knew who I was talking to, or something.
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Originally Posted by pt123
With so many more Blu-ray plays sold than HD-DVD, shouldn't Blu-ray be outselling HD-DVD by much more than HD-DVD? Especially since the Playstation 3, which is AppleTV and more, is selling for such a great price.
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Probably because there are a vast amount of PS3's are gaming consoles, and not movie players. Duh.. Even though the games are on Blu Ray disks they don't count as blu ray movies. Add them to the equation however and your imaginary ratio would probably be close to accurate.
Well however I look at it today - it's all the same thing weather games be movies, or PS3 being all stand alone players. If either happened Blu Ray would obliterate HD-DVD.
No it wasn't. I said, in so many words, that the reason the Blu Ray disk sales don't totally dwarf HD-DVD disks in sales is a direct correlation to the fact that many of the Blu Ray players that, the user I was speaking with was saying that "Blu Ray sold X amount more" of, is because many of those are strictly gaming consoles. Not strictly Players. If that # was all stand alone blu ray players yes it would probably totally obliterate HD-DVD like that user claimed Blu Ray should have been.
And then you came in and said something to me that looked as if I was saying something different than I was.
So no it really wasn't that clear to me. I don't think you knew who I was talking to, or something.
I had said originally, that the large number of BD players sold as part of the PS3 sales was considered to be responsible, to a good degeee for the 2 to 1 sales advantage of BD. Your response seemed to say that it wasn't so, that buyers of the PS3 were rarely buying BD disks, because, in a somewhat convoluted sentence, most of the PS3 consoles sold were game machines (re-read how your sentence came out) and so had almost no effect on sales.
I simply refered to that statement, and said that I was sorry if I misinterpreted your meaning.
I kind of thought it would end there, with your saying, apology accepted.\
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Well however I look at it today - it's all the same thing weather games be movies, or PS3 being all stand alone players. If either happened Blu Ray would obliterate HD-DVD.
Seriously though, I get a kick out of all this arguing over BR vs HD-DVD, when I'm sitting here looking at an SDTV and a large movie collection that is still approximately half DVD, half VHS. Nobody I know, family or friends, owns an HDTV yet, still too expensive. I've seen the HD demo displays in Best Buy, etc; right now I don't see the level of quality improvement over DVD offsetting the cost of investment.
I'm one of the technological atheists who's going to sit back and wait for the dust to settle, or just wait for an affordable (sub $150) multi-format player.
Yes, but that's not standard. You have to pay, what? $120 to $150, extra for it, and it isn't proving popular, with only 120 thousand sold. Barely a blip.
They've sold 300,000 xBox HD DVD add-ons as of November. When you consider there's only 370,000 dedicated Blu-Ray players, then 300,000 decided HD DVD players is certainly more than a "blip". Then you've got the other 578,000 standalone HD DVD players sold, plus of course the 3.4 million PS3 owners who ended up with a Blu-Ray player by happenstance (less than half of which who use it obviously - given that Blu-Ray disc sales are twice that of HD DVD, not 4.3 times that of HD DVD). I'm not sure what any of this has to do with what we were talking about though, which was internet accessibility and features.
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So Blu-Ray has room for a better Sony root kit?
Seriously though, I get a kick out of all this arguing over BR vs HD-DVD, when I'm sitting here looking at an SDTV and a large movie collection that is still approximately half DVD, half VHS. Nobody I know, family or friends, owns an HDTV yet, still too expensive. I've seen the HD demo displays in Best Buy, etc; right now I don't see the level of quality improvement over DVD offsetting the cost of investment.
I'm one of the technological atheists who's going to sit back and wait for the dust to settle, or just wait for an affordable (sub $150) multi-format player.
If you don't appreciate the quality difference, then there's no sense in upgrading. The trouble with this format war is that most consumers don't appreciate the quality improvement over what they have now, so nobody's buying. The only reason HDTVs are really starting to take off is because you can hardly buy a television anymore that isn't HD. I don't think High Definition discs are really going to take off until the same becomes true of DVD players - that playback of all formats just becomes a standard feature, rather than a luxury item.
They've sold 300,000 xBox HD DVD add-ons as of November. When you consider there's only 370,000 dedicated Blu-Ray players, then 300,000 decided HD DVD players is certainly more than a "blip". Then you've got the other 578,000 standalone HD DVD players sold, plus of course the 3.4 million PS3 owners who ended up with a Blu-Ray player by happenstance (less than half of which who use it obviously - given that Blu-Ray disc sales are twice that of HD DVD, not 4.3 times that of HD DVD). I'm not sure what any of this has to do with what we were talking about though, which was internet accessibility and features.
That's not an official number. 120 thousand had been purchased by the end of October. That's official. This number is an estimate. How close to that actual sales will come, won't be known for a few more weeks. A little spin perhaps?
A $14 disc holding 25-50GB is no good compared to a $50 16GB flash drive
BTW remember when CDs were $20 then they were $15 then they were $10.. now what are they? pennys??
Yes but it took nigh a decade to get to that point. I'm not waiting a decade and dealing with the problems thare are inevitable for optical tech waiting for Blu-ray to become affordable. Optical has always been the cheap but slow technology and Blu-ray and HD DVD do not change that. Both are slow as molasses compared to Flash and HDD storage. I'm not buying Quad Core computers only to be hobbled by a slow optical drive. No thanks.
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Originally Posted by melgross
Yes, but that's not standard. You have to pay, what? $120 to $150, extra for it, and it isn't proving popular, with only 120 thousand sold. Barely a blip.
Clearly more than 120k have been sold and these are all dedicated to watching movies unlike "packing" a BD player into a PS3 and hoping that people give a shit about watching movies.
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Originally Posted by Cory Bauer
If you don't appreciate the quality difference, then there's no sense in upgrading. The trouble with this format war is that most consumers don't appreciate the quality improvement over what they have now, so nobody's buying. The only reason HDTVs are really starting to take off is because you can hardly buy a television anymore that isn't HD. I don't think High Definition discs are really going to take off until the same becomes true of DVD players - that playback of all formats just becomes a standard feature, rather than a luxury item.
True and quite honestly it's going to take larger screens as well. I can appreciate 720 HD on my 32 in screen but it only looks marginally better than upscaled DVD for many titles. I really think we're going to need to see low cost 42 and 50" sets before people can see obvious qualitative advantages.
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Originally Posted by melgross
That's not an official number. 120 thousand had been purchased by the end of October. That's official. This number is an estimate. How close to that actual sales will come, won't be known for a few more weeks. A little spin perhaps?
I don't know if it's Spin. If we were all forced to use nothing but "official" numbers half the posts in this thread would be invalid. The Xbox add on had the price decrease and bundle and it began to be sold a lot. The numbers should be well over 200k.
Again though it appears to be a fruitless battle though. Once you have a Universal player the need to worry about the war is over. I don't worry about buying DVD-R or DVD+R discs anymore because my drive handles both. Once affordable Universal players are out and someone develops Universal recorders we're aces.
Yes but it took nigh a decade to get to that point. I'm not waiting a decade and dealing with the problems thare are inevitable for optical tech waiting for Blu-ray to become affordable. Optical has always been the cheap but slow technology and Blu-ray and HD DVD do not change that. Both are slow as molasses compared to Flash and HDD storage. I'm not buying Quad Core computers only to be hobbled by a slow optical drive. No thanks.
HDD's are not reccommended for storage over a year or so. Studies have shown that HDD's that are sitting on the shef are just as likely to fail as drives being used every day.
For longer term storage of important data, I'd prefer an optical disk, and that's what we do in the photo industry.
No matter how you store, depending on the life of the method, you still must make a "copy to=" schedule.
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Clearly more than 120k have been sold and these are all dedicated to watching movies unlike "packing" a BD player into a PS3 and hoping that people give a shit about watching movies.
Well, 3.4 (min) consoles having been sold means that even a relatively small percentage watching movies would be a big number.
The 2 to 1 movies sales advantage comes from somewhere, despite Toshiba bribing Paramount with $150 million to drop BD sales.
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I don't know if it's Spin. If we were all forced to use nothing but "official" numbers half the posts in this thread would be invalid. The Xbox add on had the price decrease and bundle and it began to be sold a lot. The numbers should be well over 200k.
I won't deny the 200 number is likely to be correct, but the only number published has been the 120 one for sales through October.
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Again though it appears to be a fruitless battle though. Once you have a Universal player the need to worry about the war is over. I don't worry about buying DVD-R or DVD+R discs anymore because my drive handles both. Once affordable Universal players are out and someone develops Universal recorders we're aces.
When a universal player comes out that is cheap enough to make a difference, then yes, that's the way to go.
The industry may be huge but it's shrinking...fast. I've actually seen 1080p porn and it is awful. These are not naurally pretty girls and the extra resolution brings out a lot of details that aren't sexy. Porn is moving onto the Internet and I think everyone is pretty happy about it.
They've sold 300,000 xBox HD DVD add-ons as of November. When you consider there's only 370,000 dedicated Blu-Ray players, then 300,000 decided HD DVD players is certainly more than a "blip". Then you've got the other 578,000 standalone HD DVD players sold, plus of course the 3.4 million PS3 owners who ended up with a Blu-Ray player by happenstance (less than half of which who use it obviously - given that Blu-Ray disc sales are twice that of HD DVD, not 4.3 times that of HD DVD). I'm not sure what any of this has to do with what we were talking about though, which was internet accessibility and features.
If you don't appreciate the quality difference, then there's no sense in upgrading. The trouble with this format war is that most consumers don't appreciate the quality improvement over what they have now, so nobody's buying. The only reason HDTVs are really starting to take off is because you can hardly buy a television anymore that isn't HD. I don't think High Definition discs are really going to take off until the same becomes true of DVD players - that playback of all formats just becomes a standard feature, rather than a luxury item.
1999 Senate Hearings on HDTV and the switch over [originally set for 2004] made it a requirement that all televisions sold would have to be HD compliant and affordable to the general consumer.
We haven't seen either yet. They have a year to drive down prices.
They were given an extension to gain ROI and it's been long enough.
1999 Senate Hearings on HDTV and the switch over [originally set for 2004] made it a requirement that all televisions sold would have to be HD compliant and affordable to the general consumer.
We haven't seen either yet. They have a year to drive down prices.
They were given an extension to gain ROI and it's been long enough.
Yes it has been long enough. My latest Costco passport has plenty of HDTV options. Nice to see 42" HDTV coming down to $899. My next HDTV is going to be 50" minimum. I don't care if I have to go DLP Rear Projection to get good 1080p performance.
Yes it has been long enough. My latest Costco passport has plenty of HDTV options. Nice to see 42" HDTV coming down to $899. My next HDTV is going to be 50" minimum. I don't care if I have to go DLP Rear Projection to get good 1080p performance.
With Costco and Best Buy adding a lot of HDTV offerings its clear they want to be first in the market for their consumers.
I agree about the DLP to get 1080p performance.
I'll never forget standing in the Magnolia Hifi Store in Bellevue, WA in 1999 watching the Space Shuttle launch on HDTV 1080p plasma displays costing $25k. They were for the "early" adopter or so Hitachi and other executives claimed at the hearing.
The Senators weren't amused.
Then came GW and 9/11 and all this progression was pushed into the corner and overlooked.
Soooo, use your HD DVD player for computer purposes much? Somebody definitely put his foot deep into his mouth here and it's not me.
P.S. The best-selling Blu-ray player is the PS3, which -- surprise -- can access the net. It can even do it wirelessly out of the box if you already have a wireless router. Can your beloved HD DVD players do that?
Sorry bud but try watching picture in picture on the PS3- can't! HD DVD people watch it all the time- it's a real cinema machine not a gaming device that happens to play movie discs. Foot in your mouth! And just because a PS3 can do what you state why can't all blu ray machines do it too? OUCH!!!
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It'll be interesting to see what that meeting is about.
There were 2 earlier Quicktime rumours that went nowhere... but also have potential
1) Quicktime was being entirely rewritten, from the ground up, in cocoa.... etc
2) Apple doesn't just want to download a movie, but rather all the extras as well... like a DVD does.
I'm wondering whether the Final Cut meeting could be concerned with a new method of creating menus (ie: interactivity) for films.
Naturally, could easily be way, way off.
Whatever it is, it has to be something more than a triviality. From what I'm reading, a major upgrade would be out of the question though. That will likely wait until NAB, when they usually show one.
The xBox-flavored ones can, yes. Difference is, the HD DVDs can actually do something once they get online, while blu-Ray won't get internet-based features until they reach their Profile 2.0 status this time next year. That's HD DVD's big advantage by the way; it's a finished format
Yes, but that's not standard. You have to pay, what? $120 to $150, extra for it, and it isn't proving popular, with only 120 thousand sold. Barely a blip.
What?
It's pretty clear.
It's pretty clear.
No it wasn't. I said, in so many words, that the reason the Blu Ray disk sales don't totally dwarf HD-DVD disks in sales is a direct correlation to the fact that many of the Blu Ray players that, the user I was speaking with was saying that "Blu Ray sold X amount more" of, is because many of those are strictly gaming consoles. Not strictly Players. If that # was all stand alone blu ray players yes it would probably totally obliterate HD-DVD like that user claimed Blu Ray should have been.
And then you came in and said something to me that looked as if I was saying something different than I was.
So no it really wasn't that clear to me. I don't think you knew who I was talking to, or something.
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With so many more Blu-ray plays sold than HD-DVD, shouldn't Blu-ray be outselling HD-DVD by much more than HD-DVD? Especially since the Playstation 3, which is AppleTV and more, is selling for such a great price.
Probably because there are a vast amount of PS3's are gaming consoles, and not movie players. Duh.. Even though the games are on Blu Ray disks they don't count as blu ray movies. Add them to the equation however and your imaginary ratio would probably be close to accurate.
Well however I look at it today - it's all the same thing weather games be movies, or PS3 being all stand alone players. If either happened Blu Ray would obliterate HD-DVD.
No it wasn't. I said, in so many words, that the reason the Blu Ray disk sales don't totally dwarf HD-DVD disks in sales is a direct correlation to the fact that many of the Blu Ray players that, the user I was speaking with was saying that "Blu Ray sold X amount more" of, is because many of those are strictly gaming consoles. Not strictly Players. If that # was all stand alone blu ray players yes it would probably totally obliterate HD-DVD like that user claimed Blu Ray should have been.
And then you came in and said something to me that looked as if I was saying something different than I was.
So no it really wasn't that clear to me. I don't think you knew who I was talking to, or something.
I had said originally, that the large number of BD players sold as part of the PS3 sales was considered to be responsible, to a good degeee for the 2 to 1 sales advantage of BD. Your response seemed to say that it wasn't so, that buyers of the PS3 were rarely buying BD disks, because, in a somewhat convoluted sentence, most of the PS3 consoles sold were game machines (re-read how your sentence came out) and so had almost no effect on sales.
I simply refered to that statement, and said that I was sorry if I misinterpreted your meaning.
I kind of thought it would end there, with your saying, apology accepted.
Well however I look at it today - it's all the same thing weather games be movies, or PS3 being all stand alone players. If either happened Blu Ray would obliterate HD-DVD.
Yes.
I actually never saw your original post. I must have skimmed past it when reading down to the intended original recipient of my statement.
Happens.
Seriously though, I get a kick out of all this arguing over BR vs HD-DVD, when I'm sitting here looking at an SDTV and a large movie collection that is still approximately half DVD, half VHS. Nobody I know, family or friends, owns an HDTV yet, still too expensive. I've seen the HD demo displays in Best Buy, etc; right now I don't see the level of quality improvement over DVD offsetting the cost of investment.
I'm one of the technological atheists who's going to sit back and wait for the dust to settle, or just wait for an affordable (sub $150) multi-format player.
Yes, but that's not standard. You have to pay, what? $120 to $150, extra for it, and it isn't proving popular, with only 120 thousand sold. Barely a blip.
They've sold 300,000 xBox HD DVD add-ons as of November. When you consider there's only 370,000 dedicated Blu-Ray players, then 300,000 decided HD DVD players is certainly more than a "blip". Then you've got the other 578,000 standalone HD DVD players sold, plus of course the 3.4 million PS3 owners who ended up with a Blu-Ray player by happenstance (less than half of which who use it obviously - given that Blu-Ray disc sales are twice that of HD DVD, not 4.3 times that of HD DVD). I'm not sure what any of this has to do with what we were talking about though, which was internet accessibility and features.
So Blu-Ray has room for a better Sony root kit?
Seriously though, I get a kick out of all this arguing over BR vs HD-DVD, when I'm sitting here looking at an SDTV and a large movie collection that is still approximately half DVD, half VHS. Nobody I know, family or friends, owns an HDTV yet, still too expensive. I've seen the HD demo displays in Best Buy, etc; right now I don't see the level of quality improvement over DVD offsetting the cost of investment.
I'm one of the technological atheists who's going to sit back and wait for the dust to settle, or just wait for an affordable (sub $150) multi-format player.
If you don't appreciate the quality difference, then there's no sense in upgrading. The trouble with this format war is that most consumers don't appreciate the quality improvement over what they have now, so nobody's buying. The only reason HDTVs are really starting to take off is because you can hardly buy a television anymore that isn't HD. I don't think High Definition discs are really going to take off until the same becomes true of DVD players - that playback of all formats just becomes a standard feature, rather than a luxury item.
They've sold 300,000 xBox HD DVD add-ons as of November. When you consider there's only 370,000 dedicated Blu-Ray players, then 300,000 decided HD DVD players is certainly more than a "blip". Then you've got the other 578,000 standalone HD DVD players sold, plus of course the 3.4 million PS3 owners who ended up with a Blu-Ray player by happenstance (less than half of which who use it obviously - given that Blu-Ray disc sales are twice that of HD DVD, not 4.3 times that of HD DVD). I'm not sure what any of this has to do with what we were talking about though, which was internet accessibility and features.
That's not an official number. 120 thousand had been purchased by the end of October. That's official. This number is an estimate. How close to that actual sales will come, won't be known for a few more weeks. A little spin perhaps?
The 100 GB disk by Hitatachi already works with existing Blu Ray heads. All that was needed was a firmware update. PS3 was the guinea pig.
LINKY please ?
Irony?
A $14 disc holding 25-50GB is no good compared to a $50 16GB flash drive
BTW remember when CDs were $20 then they were $15 then they were $10.. now what are they? pennys??
Yes but it took nigh a decade to get to that point. I'm not waiting a decade and dealing with the problems thare are inevitable for optical tech waiting for Blu-ray to become affordable. Optical has always been the cheap but slow technology and Blu-ray and HD DVD do not change that. Both are slow as molasses compared to Flash and HDD storage. I'm not buying Quad Core computers only to be hobbled by a slow optical drive. No thanks.
Yes, but that's not standard. You have to pay, what? $120 to $150, extra for it, and it isn't proving popular, with only 120 thousand sold. Barely a blip.
Clearly more than 120k have been sold and these are all dedicated to watching movies unlike "packing" a BD player into a PS3 and hoping that people give a shit about watching movies.
If you don't appreciate the quality difference, then there's no sense in upgrading. The trouble with this format war is that most consumers don't appreciate the quality improvement over what they have now, so nobody's buying. The only reason HDTVs are really starting to take off is because you can hardly buy a television anymore that isn't HD. I don't think High Definition discs are really going to take off until the same becomes true of DVD players - that playback of all formats just becomes a standard feature, rather than a luxury item.
True and quite honestly it's going to take larger screens as well. I can appreciate 720 HD on my 32 in screen but it only looks marginally better than upscaled DVD for many titles. I really think we're going to need to see low cost 42 and 50" sets before people can see obvious qualitative advantages.
That's not an official number. 120 thousand had been purchased by the end of October. That's official. This number is an estimate. How close to that actual sales will come, won't be known for a few more weeks. A little spin perhaps?
I don't know if it's Spin. If we were all forced to use nothing but "official" numbers half the posts in this thread would be invalid. The Xbox add on had the price decrease and bundle and it began to be sold a lot. The numbers should be well over 200k.
Again though it appears to be a fruitless battle though. Once you have a Universal player the need to worry about the war is over. I don't worry about buying DVD-R or DVD+R discs anymore because my drive handles both. Once affordable Universal players are out and someone develops Universal recorders we're aces.
LINKY please ?
I don't know about that one, but this one certainly looks interesting:
http://www.smarthousenews.com.au/Com...orage/A3X2P7W8
Sort of blows the entire 50 GB 30 GB battle out of the water, doesn't it?
Yes but it took nigh a decade to get to that point. I'm not waiting a decade and dealing with the problems thare are inevitable for optical tech waiting for Blu-ray to become affordable. Optical has always been the cheap but slow technology and Blu-ray and HD DVD do not change that. Both are slow as molasses compared to Flash and HDD storage. I'm not buying Quad Core computers only to be hobbled by a slow optical drive. No thanks.
HDD's are not reccommended for storage over a year or so. Studies have shown that HDD's that are sitting on the shef are just as likely to fail as drives being used every day.
For longer term storage of important data, I'd prefer an optical disk, and that's what we do in the photo industry.
No matter how you store, depending on the life of the method, you still must make a "copy to=" schedule.
Clearly more than 120k have been sold and these are all dedicated to watching movies unlike "packing" a BD player into a PS3 and hoping that people give a shit about watching movies.
Well, 3.4 (min) consoles having been sold means that even a relatively small percentage watching movies would be a big number.
The 2 to 1 movies sales advantage comes from somewhere, despite Toshiba bribing Paramount with $150 million to drop BD sales.
I don't know if it's Spin. If we were all forced to use nothing but "official" numbers half the posts in this thread would be invalid. The Xbox add on had the price decrease and bundle and it began to be sold a lot. The numbers should be well over 200k.
I won't deny the 200 number is likely to be correct, but the only number published has been the 120 one for sales through October.
Again though it appears to be a fruitless battle though. Once you have a Universal player the need to worry about the war is over. I don't worry about buying DVD-R or DVD+R discs anymore because my drive handles both. Once affordable Universal players are out and someone develops Universal recorders we're aces.
When a universal player comes out that is cheap enough to make a difference, then yes, that's the way to go.
Not correct- the porn DVD industry is huge. Is is not only internet. They are sold in the millions. Put down the pipe yourself.
Financial Times says otherwise.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2ca67f30-c...b5df10621.html
The industry may be huge but it's shrinking...fast. I've actually seen 1080p porn and it is awful. These are not naurally pretty girls and the extra resolution brings out a lot of details that aren't sexy. Porn is moving onto the Internet and I think everyone is pretty happy about it.
They've sold 300,000 xBox HD DVD add-ons as of November. When you consider there's only 370,000 dedicated Blu-Ray players, then 300,000 decided HD DVD players is certainly more than a "blip". Then you've got the other 578,000 standalone HD DVD players sold, plus of course the 3.4 million PS3 owners who ended up with a Blu-Ray player by happenstance (less than half of which who use it obviously - given that Blu-Ray disc sales are twice that of HD DVD, not 4.3 times that of HD DVD). I'm not sure what any of this has to do with what we were talking about though, which was internet accessibility and features.
If you don't appreciate the quality difference, then there's no sense in upgrading. The trouble with this format war is that most consumers don't appreciate the quality improvement over what they have now, so nobody's buying. The only reason HDTVs are really starting to take off is because you can hardly buy a television anymore that isn't HD. I don't think High Definition discs are really going to take off until the same becomes true of DVD players - that playback of all formats just becomes a standard feature, rather than a luxury item.
1999 Senate Hearings on HDTV and the switch over [originally set for 2004] made it a requirement that all televisions sold would have to be HD compliant and affordable to the general consumer.
We haven't seen either yet. They have a year to drive down prices.
They were given an extension to gain ROI and it's been long enough.
1999 Senate Hearings on HDTV and the switch over [originally set for 2004] made it a requirement that all televisions sold would have to be HD compliant and affordable to the general consumer.
We haven't seen either yet. They have a year to drive down prices.
They were given an extension to gain ROI and it's been long enough.
Yes it has been long enough. My latest Costco passport has plenty of HDTV options. Nice to see 42" HDTV coming down to $899. My next HDTV is going to be 50" minimum. I don't care if I have to go DLP Rear Projection to get good 1080p performance.
Yes it has been long enough. My latest Costco passport has plenty of HDTV options. Nice to see 42" HDTV coming down to $899. My next HDTV is going to be 50" minimum. I don't care if I have to go DLP Rear Projection to get good 1080p performance.
With Costco and Best Buy adding a lot of HDTV offerings its clear they want to be first in the market for their consumers.
I agree about the DLP to get 1080p performance.
I'll never forget standing in the Magnolia Hifi Store in Bellevue, WA in 1999 watching the Space Shuttle launch on HDTV 1080p plasma displays costing $25k. They were for the "early" adopter or so Hitachi and other executives claimed at the hearing.
The Senators weren't amused.
Then came GW and 9/11 and all this progression was pushed into the corner and overlooked.
Soooo, use your HD DVD player for computer purposes much? Somebody definitely put his foot deep into his mouth here and it's not me.
P.S. The best-selling Blu-ray player is the PS3, which -- surprise -- can access the net. It can even do it wirelessly out of the box if you already have a wireless router. Can your beloved HD DVD players do that?
Sorry bud but try watching picture in picture on the PS3- can't! HD DVD people watch it all the time- it's a real cinema machine not a gaming device that happens to play movie discs. Foot in your mouth! And just because a PS3 can do what you state why can't all blu ray machines do it too? OUCH!!!