Jaguar Free? This rumor says so!

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in macOS edited January 2014
Anyone know the reliability of macosxrumors.com? They claim to have sources within Apple who say that Jaguar will be 10.2, and that the update will be offered in exactly the same way as 10.1 was.



I want to believe, but I'm not familiar with this site's track record. Anyone care to comment?



<a href="http://www.macosxrumors.com/"; target="_blank">http://www.macosxrumors.com/</a>;
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  • Reply 1 of 48
    kecksykecksy Posts: 1,002member
    Like I've been saying all along. Apple wants EVERYONE to be running Jaguar so developers will have a reason to write apps that use Jaguar's new features.



    Apple also wants EVERYONE to enjoy the improved speed and usability of Jaguar so MOST EVERYONE will remain loyal mac users.



    Apple also wants EVERYONE running Jaguar so they don't have to offer support for EVERYONE running multiple versions of OS X.



    Free is good. Apple doesn't really need to money from OS sales. The above benifits are much tastier. Apple is smart.
  • Reply 2 of 48
    jethrojethro Posts: 34member
    [quote]Originally posted by Keeksy:

    <strong>Like I've been saying all along. Apple wants EVERYONE to be running Jaguar so developers will have a reason to write apps that use Jaguar's new features.

    </strong><hr></blockquote>



    I just can't see Apple passing up the money they'd make by charging for an upgrade in this economy. The stockholders would crucify them.



    I do think they'll have two-tier pricing to encourage upgrades though, with current owners being able to upgrade for some amount less than $129. If I had to guess it'd be $79 which is around what they sell the educational version for.
  • Reply 3 of 48
    relicrelic Posts: 4,735member
    Do you think a company that charges $400 for a 512mb upgrade is going to give anything for free. Even if 10.0 and 10.1 were only public betas. Yes they were, you can't tell me OSX was designed to run that slow. Resizing my browser window feels like I'm rendering a 20gig movie.
  • Reply 4 of 48
    [quote]Originally posted by Relic:

    <strong>Do you think a company that charges $400 for a 512mb upgrade is going to give anything for free. Even if 10.0 and 10.1 were only public betas. Yes they were, you can't tell me OSX was designed to run that slow. Resizing my browser window feels like I'm rendering a 20gig movie.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    OS X 10.0 and 10.1 were NOT public betas! What hardware are you running 10.1 on? OS X 10.1.5 runs perfectly fast on my iBook 500MHz with 384MB of RAM.
  • Reply 5 of 48
    What I think the rumor is: Wish projection
  • Reply 6 of 48
    franckfranck Posts: 135member
    [quote]Originally posted by graphiteman:

    <strong>



    OS X 10.0 and 10.1 were NOT public betas! What hardware are you running 10.1 on? OS X 10.1.5 runs perfectly fast on my iBook 500MHz with 384MB of RAM.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I'm running MacOS X an a B/W G3 400MHz/512MB, and "FAST" is definitely NOT the word I would choose.

    It's not as sluggish as 10.0 but still slow (during Window manipulation)...

    more over, it'a a memory hog: 512MB and still swapping.
  • Reply 7 of 48
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,341member
    Nooooooooooooooooooo we MUST pay for Jaguar. It's the RIGHT thing to do!
  • Reply 8 of 48
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    How is it the "right" thing to do?
  • Reply 9 of 48
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,341member
    [quote]Originally posted by groverat:

    <strong>How is it the "right" thing to do?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Apple needs money. Things of it as altruism in motion.



    <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
  • Reply 10 of 48
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />



    Because you know Apple cares all about you.
  • Reply 11 of 48
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    [quote]Originally posted by hmurchison:

    <strong>



    Apple needs money. Things of it as altruism in motion.



    <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>



    Apple has money. They charge too much for their hardware, so I'm not worried about them not having enough money.
  • Reply 12 of 48
    Does any one remember the release of 10.1



    I believe that like 10.1 there will be a charge but it will probably be more like "if you currently own 10 then the upgrade will be $29.99 other wise it will be 129.99. apple will gladly give out 10.2 but as in 10.1 there will be more than 100Mb of upgrades and they will need to realease a cd. Looking back if you remember the 9.1 update, it was almost 150Mb download. Apple learns from its mistakes and that size of an public update caused huge problems. Apple will need to use CDs and package it. this costs money and they will have to charge a minimal fee for the distrabution. I think it is more than likely that they will not reem current OS X users simply because they are working through a difficult spot. it is not easy to release such a significant change to an os and not scare off cusomers. they have been very good about making this as painless as posible and I think it will be in their best intrest to continue that trend.
  • Reply 13 of 48
    mimacmimac Posts: 871member
    Apple has shed loads of ca$h!

    If Jaguar is not a free upgrade then you're looking at a minimal fee for it + probably "shipping cost" for a cdrom.

    Apple want to get their hardware in everyones face, an excellent software package is all part of the sell, and if this means minimal cost to its established user base then it can only boost confidence in people looking to make the switch or those who are about to make their first "computer" purchase.

    Think about it,you go to the computer store and see a wintel machine with sh*t loads of free software (abeit some pretty useless stuff thown in), then check out the Macs - where's all that free software I was gonna get with the PC? <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> ... MORE SELLS
  • Reply 14 of 48
    r@venr@ven Posts: 24member
    I'm not paying for any updates until they fix window positioning in ALL applications. This is one area where Microsuck Windows has an advantage. It seems like pretty basic stuff to me, but if I have to hide the dock/shrink it one more time because the program window has moved behind the dock i'll go nuts!!!!!!



    Is it too much to ask to have a maximise button that actually works, and uses the entire available space wthout sitting behind the dock????



    The only app I've used that doesn't seem to do this, is OmniWeb.



    Any ideas? <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
  • Reply 15 of 48
    kim kap solkim kap sol Posts: 2,987member
    [quote]Originally posted by r@ven:

    <strong>

    The only app I've used that doesn't seem to do this, is OmniWeb.



    Any ideas? <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>



    Cocoa app!



    'nother reason why cocoa rules over carbon.



    Devs are lazy. Cocoa allows devs to be lazy and still get apps to behave correctly.
  • Reply 16 of 48
    keyboardf12keyboardf12 Posts: 1,379member
    yep. devs are real lazy. how lazy of them to not want to rewrite 100,000 lines of code they have written over the past few years in a foreign new language that cuts off their cross platform abilities. and their os 9 customers.



    yep real lazy.
  • Reply 17 of 48
    buonrottobuonrotto Posts: 6,368member
    [quote]Originally posted by EmAn:

    <strong>



    Apple has money. They charge too much for their hardware, so I'm not worried about them not having enough money.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    True, that. But no one is buying their hardware right now so...
  • Reply 18 of 48
    r@venr@ven Posts: 24member
    All i want is a proper maximise button. Try maximise on a Microsoft box if you dare, and you'll instantly see what I mean.



    I'm not asking people to switch to Microsoft. I just want some basic functionality.



    [ 06-26-2002: Message edited by: r@ven ]</p>
  • Reply 19 of 48
    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
    [quote]Originally posted by r@ven:

    <strong>All i want is a proper maximise button. Try maximise on a Microsoft box if you dare, and you'll instantly see what I mean.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    My god, you're right! Having a single window take over my *entire screen*, with *inches* of wasted space around the actual content is *exactly* what I was looking for! Thanks!







    [quote]<strong>

    I'm not asking people to switch to Microsoft. I just want some basic functionality.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    You mean like intelligent actions instead of brain dead knee jerk overkill?



    I *hate* maximize on Windows. Just because the original UI designers were too freakin' lazy to code up something worth using, everything thinks it's just The Way Things Are(tm). Bollocks.
  • Reply 20 of 48
    the g5the g5 Posts: 42member
    [quote]Originally posted by Junkyard Dawg:

    <strong>Anyone know the reliability of macosxrumors.com? They claim to have sources within Apple who say that Jaguar will be 10.2, and that the update will be offered in exactly the same way as 10.1 was.



    I want to believe, but I'm not familiar with this site's track record. Anyone care to comment?



    <a href="http://www.macosxrumors.com/"; target="_blank">http://www.macosxrumors.com/</a></strong><hr></blockquote>;



    i dont' visit that site, but if it's anything like spymac, i would just believe it when i see it.
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