Figures the crooks at Verizon would charge you for it. If they could, they would charge you to browse your own address book! As another already pointed out, Verizon cripples most standard features on a phone, then charges you for it.
What "standard" features are "crippled"? Isn't reception like the main feature for any phone?
Does Verizon charge you to replace a battery on any phone?
Isn't reception like the main feature for any phone?
AT&T's new 3G is pretty fast at times and not so fast at other times. I sit in my house and watch it switch from fast 3G, to slow 3G, to 2.5G, to no service at all in the course of 5 minutes, without moving from the same spot. It seems like they intentionally slow you down after a few minutes until you quit using the web. If I shut it off and log on again I get the same scenario - starts out fast and then slows to a crawl. Very frustrating.
You mean, like how AT&T/Apple "cock blocks" the following features on the iPhone:
1.) MMS. Every cheap flip phone in the last 5 years has picture messaging. Where is it on the almighty iPhone? Oh, and you don't have video messaging either on the iPhone.
2.) Voice dialing. Again, almost every phone today has this. For free. Where is it on the iPhone?
3.) Broadband tethering. All of Verizon's PDA's and many of their regular flip phones offer this as a feature. Why does AT&T and Apple "Cock Block" it on the iPhone? Perhaps somebody needs to "liberate" this feature on the iPhone?
4.) Removable battery. Want an extended life battery for your iPhone? Ooops...no dice. Want to change your battery out period? Better be prepared to shell out $85.95, plus the inconvenience of being without a phone while you ship your phone back to Apple headquarters. Verizon will sell you a battery for $39.99 and an extended battery for $49.99. Now who's nickel and diming who?
And this business about the AT&T iPhone price plans being cheaper is a lie. Let's compare:
With Verizon, you can get the 450 minute Premium Plan for $79.99, which includes UNLIMITED Nights and Weekends (not capped at 5,000 minutes like AT&T) and unlimited mobile to mobile, plus:
--Unlimited data
--Unlimited navigation, included turn-by-turn directions with actual voice navigation, not just a blue dot you have to follow on a Google Map
--Mobile E-mail
--Unlimited Text, Picture Messaging (something the iPhone can't do), unlimited Video Messaging (something the iPhone can't do) and unlimited instant messaging
--Unlimited access to the Vcast service, including ESPN MVP and news, weather and sports videos
Now what does AT&T give us for the iPhone?
For $69.99, you get unlimited data, unlimited mobile to mobile and 5,000 night and weekend minutes. And oohhhh visual voicemail! And rollover minutes! But you will pay OUT YOUR REAR FOR TEXT MESSAGING! To get unlimited messaging with AT&T, it's another $20. So it's really $89.99...meaning Verizon's plan are actually $10 cheaper.
Really? I'll have to try that next firmware update OTA. Snark aside, third-party apps and their respective updates != new features. But it is nice to get firmware updates via itunes without having to go back to the store, so suck it Verizon!
Verizon has firmware upgrade by OTA earlier than Apple.
You mean, like how AT&T/Apple "cock blocks" the following features on the iPhone:
1.) MMS. Every cheap flip phone in the last 5 years has picture messaging. Where is it on the almighty iPhone? Oh, and you don't have video messaging either on the iPhone.
2.) Voice dialing. Again, almost every phone today has this. For free. Where is it on the iPhone?
3.) Broadband tethering. All of Verizon's PDA's and many of their regular flip phones offer this as a feature. Why does AT&T and Apple "Cock Block" it on the iPhone? Perhaps somebody needs to "liberate" this feature on the iPhone?
4.) Removable battery. Want an extended life battery for your iPhone? Ooops...no dice. Want to change your battery out period? Better be prepared to shell out $85.95, plus the inconvenience of being without a phone while you ship your phone back to Apple headquarters. Verizon will sell you a battery for $39.99 and an extended battery for $49.99. Now who's nickel and diming who?
The only feature of what you listed that is blocked is tethering. Part of the reason for this is the iPhone having a capable browser is used on the data network more than any other phone on the market.
Replaceable battery is a dead horse people continue to beat on any list criticizing the iPhone.
Everything else you list is not necessarily a block. They are software upgrades than Apple can implement at any time.
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And this business about the AT&T iPhone price plans being cheaper is a lie. Let's compare:
With Verizon, you can get the 450 minute Premium Plan for $79.99, which includes UNLIMITED Nights and Weekends (not capped at 5,000 minutes like AT&T) and unlimited mobile to mobile, plus:
--Unlimited data
--Unlimited navigation, included turn-by-turn directions with actual voice navigation, not just a blue dot you have to follow on a Google Map
--Mobile E-mail
--Unlimited Text, Picture Messaging (something the iPhone can't do), unlimited Video Messaging (something the iPhone can't do) and unlimited instant messaging
--Unlimited access to the Vcast service, including ESPN MVP and news, weather and sports videos
It looks like the premium pricing plan you reference is for mid range feature phones - not smartphones. The smartphone pricing plans are more expensive and do not automatically include Mobile Web, VZnavigator, or Vcast.
1.) MMS. Every cheap flip phone in the last 5 years has picture messaging. Where is it on the almighty iPhone? Oh, and you don't have video messaging either on the iPhone.
It's called Email and it works well. I can send and receive MMS from any carrier this way and I don't have to pay additional charges.
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2.) Voice dialing. Again, almost every phone today has this. For free. Where is it on the iPhone?
Personally, I never used it and I don't know anyone who does. Having said that, it is currently available via an app and it could be added later (thank you software updates).
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3.) Broadband tethering. All of Verizon's PDA's and many of their regular flip phones offer this as a feature. Why does AT&T and Apple "Cock Block" it on the iPhone? Perhaps somebody needs to "liberate" this feature on the iPhone?
For those who need it, this would be an issue. If I needed the use of my laptop wirelessly that bad, I would get a card for it...
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4.) Removable battery. Want an extended life battery for your iPhone? Ooops...no dice. Want to change your battery out period? Better be prepared to shell out $85.95, plus the inconvenience of being without a phone while you ship your phone back to Apple headquarters. Verizon will sell you a battery for $39.99 and an extended battery for $49.99. Now who's nickel and diming who?
I have carried a cell phone for 17 years and I have never needed nor wanted to buy an additional/replacement battery.
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And this business about the AT&T iPhone price plans being cheaper is a lie. Let's compare:
With Verizon, you can get the 450 minute Premium Plan for $79.99, which includes UNLIMITED Nights and Weekends (not capped at 5,000 minutes like AT&T) and unlimited mobile to mobile, plus:
I have yet to meet anyone that could even approach 5,000 minutes (83 hours +) just on nights and weekends. Maybe there are people who do.
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--Unlimited data
--Unlimited navigation, included turn-by-turn directions with actual voice navigation, not just a blue dot you have to follow on a Google Map
--Mobile E-mail
--Unlimited Text, Picture Messaging (something the iPhone can't do), unlimited Video Messaging (something the iPhone can't do) and unlimited instant messaging
--Unlimited access to the Vcast service, including ESPN MVP and news, weather and sports videos
Again, the iPhone can do picture messaging (it is unlimited, too). I have had phones that shot video. I used it for the first month and then never touched it. The quality was just too bad. Also, I tried the V-Cast service and it was worthless. I'll take real web sites thank you.
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Now what does AT&T give us for the iPhone?
For $69.99, you get unlimited data, unlimited mobile to mobile and 5,000 night and weekend minutes. And oohhhh visual voicemail! And rollover minutes! But you will pay OUT YOUR REAR FOR TEXT MESSAGING! To get unlimited messaging with AT&T, it's another $20. So it's really $89.99...meaning Verizon's plan are actually $10 cheaper.
Apparently, visual voice mail is good enough that Verizon has copied...er, come out with it's own version now. I like having rollover minutes. When I need extra time they are there, when I don't they add up.
I'll take AT&T's service on the iPhone (even if it does lack a few features I would never use) over any crap phone Verizon offers.
1.) You bitch about Verizon yet your iPhone's reception at home is sub-par? How was it with Verizon - I bet no problem.
2.) You know and note that the iPhone is GSM and then bitch that is doesn't work on CDMA Verizon? makes no sense.
3.) Verizon has to cripple most phones because they have GSM feature that won't work with CDMA. example- the Razr.
4.) Verizon charges for the software- where? monthly?
5.) Can you get SMS pix on your iPhone from any other cariers including Verizon?
6.)How's AT&T's notorious lousy customer service? AT&T is ranked near the bottom according to Consumers Reports.
1) I have excellent reception with AT&T - just as good as I had with Verizon.
2) I think he was pointing out to someone else that the iPhone is GSM. They had asked about getting Verizon to work on the iPhone now that they have visual voice mail.
3) What features are directly related to GSM and can't be offered on a CDMA phone (other than SIM related stuff)?
4) If you go to Get It Now it costs to get software (or features). Also, I never received any significant software upgrades on a Verizon phone. So I guess it's fair to say they don't charge for that.
5) Customer service with AT&T has been great. Don't believe everything you read in Consumer Reports. That magazine is a joke.
I have had a cell phone since 1991 (all with batteries) and I have never had to change batteries. Ever.
How many of them were smart phones?
I certainly haven't been owning phones for that long, but my personal experience is a strong downward trend in battery life. I think it's in part due to demands on size and capability is outstripping efficiency gains and battery improvement by a large margin. My first phone lasted about a week on a charge. My second one lasted maybe 3-4 days on a charge. iPhone lasts me maybe a day.
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5) Customer service with AT&T has been great. Don't believe everything you read in Consumer Reports. That magazine is a joke.
It's not just Consumer Reports saying that. Every survey I've seen says that. You'll need a better argument than yours to credibly counter those surveys. A single person's personal experience has little weight against surveys.
When I had Verizon, I couldn't put music on my phone from my collection. I had to buy it from Verizon. Ringtones were two or three dollars.
The reception was good (I had the Moto e815), but I have had the same quality of service with AT&T and the iPhone.
I have had a cell phone since 1991 (all with batteries) and I have never had to change batteries. Ever.
1.) You can now- that is if you would want music on a phone to begin with.
2.) That depends where you live- Verizon is more consistent.
3.) How long did you have the phone- not 17 years? And it still doesn't matter because with the iPhone if you had to change the battery regardless - with Apple you will be charged $83!!!!!
Replaceable battery is a dead horse people continue to beat on any list criticizing the iPhone.
Everything else you list is not necessarily a block. They are software upgrades than Apple can implement at any time.
It looks like the premium pricing plan you reference is for mid range feature phones - not smartphones. The smartphone pricing plans are more expensive and do not automatically include Mobile Web, VZnavigator, or Vcast.
With a Verizon smartphone- you don't necessarily even need to get a DATA plan!
With the IPhone and AT&T - you have no choice.
And the replaceable battery is not a dead horse- what other phone is that you cannot replace it! without a charge of $83??
AT&T's new 3G is pretty fast at times and not so fast at other times. I sit in my house and watch it switch from fast 3G, to slow 3G, to 2.5G, to no service at all in the course of 5 minutes, without moving from the same spot. It seems like they intentionally slow you down after a few minutes until you quit using the web. If I shut it off and log on again I get the same scenario - starts out fast and then slows to a crawl. Very frustrating.
This sounds like a hardware problem more so than anything else, and if it is found that the chipset in the iPhone are defective, Apple will have to reimburse you.
The only feature of what you listed that is blocked is tethering. Part of the reason for this is the iPhone having a capable browser is used on the data network more than any other phone on the market.
This is debatable as Allaboutsymbian posted that the N95 had the most widely used browser. Nokia and Apple use the same webkit and the browsers might not be identifying themselves properly. Still, I would say that the iPhone is in the top 2 or 3 phones used to surf the Internet.
It's called Email and it works well. I can send and receive MMS from any carrier this way and I don't have to pay additional charges.
He is talking about MMS, not email. You used symantics to make your point but he is correct that the iPhone lacks features that have been around for years.
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Personally, I never used it and I don't know anyone who does. Having said that, it is currently available via an app and it could be added later (thank you software updates).
It is a very handy feature especially when used with a BT headset.
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For those who need it, this would be an issue. If I needed the use of my laptop wirelessly that bad, I would get a card for it...
So you would rather spend money on a feature that has been around since the beginning of the mobile revolution? Back in the day, the earliest Nokia's saw the need for this feature.
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I have carried a cell phone for 17 years and I have never needed nor wanted to buy an additional/replacement battery.
Fair enough. Battery technology has changed but not at the pace of devices they power.
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I have yet to meet anyone that could even approach 5,000 minutes (83 hours +) just on nights and weekends. Maybe there are people who do.
No comment. Get a teenager and watch your minutes soar.
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Again, the iPhone can do picture messaging (it is unlimited, too). I have had phones that shot video. I used it for the first month and then never touched it. The quality was just too bad. Also, I tried the V-Cast service and it was worthless. I'll take real web sites thank you.
Wrong. The iPhone can send emails with attachments that include pictures as the payload. It can not send real MMS, as this requires a different server, and configuration. as for the video in phones, obviously you have never used a Nokia N82, or N95. The video quality is 30 fps and very good.
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Apparently, visual voice mail is good enough that Verizon has copied...er, come out with it's own version now. I like having rollover minutes. When I need extra time they are there, when I don't they add up.
If you are going to play the "copy" game, it can be said that Apple copied touch screen interfaces, or copied 3G technology, etc....
I certainly haven't been owning phones for that long, but my personal experience is a strong downward trend in battery life. I think it's in part due to demands on size and capability is outstripping efficiency gains and battery improvement by a large margin. My first phone lasted about a week on a charge. My second one lasted maybe 3-4 days on a charge. iPhone lasts me maybe a day.
Exactly. My iPhone lasts almost the entire day. My N82 will go about 3 or 4 days without a charge and my E61, about a week. Earlier non-smart phones did not have the overhead that the new phones now incorporate.
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It's not just Consumer Reports saying that. Every survey I've seen says that. You'll need a better argument than yours to credibly counter those surveys. A single person's personal experience has little weight against surveys.
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Figures the crooks at Verizon would charge you for it. If they could, they would charge you to browse your own address book! As another already pointed out, Verizon cripples most standard features on a phone, then charges you for it.
What "standard" features are "crippled"? Isn't reception like the main feature for any phone?
Does Verizon charge you to replace a battery on any phone?
Isn't reception like the main feature for any phone?
AT&T's new 3G is pretty fast at times and not so fast at other times. I sit in my house and watch it switch from fast 3G, to slow 3G, to 2.5G, to no service at all in the course of 5 minutes, without moving from the same spot. It seems like they intentionally slow you down after a few minutes until you quit using the web. If I shut it off and log on again I get the same scenario - starts out fast and then slows to a crawl. Very frustrating.
Does Verizon charge you to replace a battery on any phone?
Unless you are under warranty and have a defective battery all carriers will charge you for a replacement battery.
You mean, like how AT&T/Apple "cock blocks" the following features on the iPhone:
1.) MMS. Every cheap flip phone in the last 5 years has picture messaging. Where is it on the almighty iPhone? Oh, and you don't have video messaging either on the iPhone.
2.) Voice dialing. Again, almost every phone today has this. For free. Where is it on the iPhone?
3.) Broadband tethering. All of Verizon's PDA's and many of their regular flip phones offer this as a feature. Why does AT&T and Apple "Cock Block" it on the iPhone? Perhaps somebody needs to "liberate" this feature on the iPhone?
4.) Removable battery. Want an extended life battery for your iPhone? Ooops...no dice. Want to change your battery out period? Better be prepared to shell out $85.95, plus the inconvenience of being without a phone while you ship your phone back to Apple headquarters. Verizon will sell you a battery for $39.99 and an extended battery for $49.99. Now who's nickel and diming who?
And this business about the AT&T iPhone price plans being cheaper is a lie. Let's compare:
With Verizon, you can get the 450 minute Premium Plan for $79.99, which includes UNLIMITED Nights and Weekends (not capped at 5,000 minutes like AT&T) and unlimited mobile to mobile, plus:
--Unlimited data
--Unlimited navigation, included turn-by-turn directions with actual voice navigation, not just a blue dot you have to follow on a Google Map
--Mobile E-mail
--Unlimited Text, Picture Messaging (something the iPhone can't do), unlimited Video Messaging (something the iPhone can't do) and unlimited instant messaging
--Unlimited access to the Vcast service, including ESPN MVP and news, weather and sports videos
Now what does AT&T give us for the iPhone?
For $69.99, you get unlimited data, unlimited mobile to mobile and 5,000 night and weekend minutes. And oohhhh visual voicemail! And rollover minutes! But you will pay OUT YOUR REAR FOR TEXT MESSAGING! To get unlimited messaging with AT&T, it's another $20. So it's really $89.99...meaning Verizon's plan are actually $10 cheaper.
Really? I'll have to try that next firmware update OTA. Snark aside, third-party apps and their respective updates != new features. But it is nice to get firmware updates via itunes without having to go back to the store, so suck it Verizon!
Verizon has firmware upgrade by OTA earlier than Apple.
http://www.intomobile.com/2007/10/18...e-updates.html
Cock Blocked? How?
You mean, like how AT&T/Apple "cock blocks" the following features on the iPhone:
1.) MMS. Every cheap flip phone in the last 5 years has picture messaging. Where is it on the almighty iPhone? Oh, and you don't have video messaging either on the iPhone.
2.) Voice dialing. Again, almost every phone today has this. For free. Where is it on the iPhone?
3.) Broadband tethering. All of Verizon's PDA's and many of their regular flip phones offer this as a feature. Why does AT&T and Apple "Cock Block" it on the iPhone? Perhaps somebody needs to "liberate" this feature on the iPhone?
4.) Removable battery. Want an extended life battery for your iPhone? Ooops...no dice. Want to change your battery out period? Better be prepared to shell out $85.95, plus the inconvenience of being without a phone while you ship your phone back to Apple headquarters. Verizon will sell you a battery for $39.99 and an extended battery for $49.99. Now who's nickel and diming who?
The only feature of what you listed that is blocked is tethering. Part of the reason for this is the iPhone having a capable browser is used on the data network more than any other phone on the market.
Replaceable battery is a dead horse people continue to beat on any list criticizing the iPhone.
Everything else you list is not necessarily a block. They are software upgrades than Apple can implement at any time.
And this business about the AT&T iPhone price plans being cheaper is a lie. Let's compare:
With Verizon, you can get the 450 minute Premium Plan for $79.99, which includes UNLIMITED Nights and Weekends (not capped at 5,000 minutes like AT&T) and unlimited mobile to mobile, plus:
--Unlimited data
--Unlimited navigation, included turn-by-turn directions with actual voice navigation, not just a blue dot you have to follow on a Google Map
--Mobile E-mail
--Unlimited Text, Picture Messaging (something the iPhone can't do), unlimited Video Messaging (something the iPhone can't do) and unlimited instant messaging
--Unlimited access to the Vcast service, including ESPN MVP and news, weather and sports videos
It looks like the premium pricing plan you reference is for mid range feature phones - not smartphones. The smartphone pricing plans are more expensive and do not automatically include Mobile Web, VZnavigator, or Vcast.
What "standard" features are "crippled"? Isn't reception like the main feature for any phone?
Does Verizon charge you to replace a battery on any phone?
When I had Verizon, I couldn't put music on my phone from my collection. I had to buy it from Verizon. Ringtones were two or three dollars.
The reception was good (I had the Moto e815), but I have had the same quality of service with AT&T and the iPhone.
I have had a cell phone since 1991 (all with batteries) and I have never had to change batteries. Ever.
1.) MMS. Every cheap flip phone in the last 5 years has picture messaging. Where is it on the almighty iPhone? Oh, and you don't have video messaging either on the iPhone.
It's called Email and it works well. I can send and receive MMS from any carrier this way and I don't have to pay additional charges.
2.) Voice dialing. Again, almost every phone today has this. For free. Where is it on the iPhone?
Personally, I never used it and I don't know anyone who does. Having said that, it is currently available via an app and it could be added later (thank you software updates).
3.) Broadband tethering. All of Verizon's PDA's and many of their regular flip phones offer this as a feature. Why does AT&T and Apple "Cock Block" it on the iPhone? Perhaps somebody needs to "liberate" this feature on the iPhone?
For those who need it, this would be an issue. If I needed the use of my laptop wirelessly that bad, I would get a card for it...
4.) Removable battery. Want an extended life battery for your iPhone? Ooops...no dice. Want to change your battery out period? Better be prepared to shell out $85.95, plus the inconvenience of being without a phone while you ship your phone back to Apple headquarters. Verizon will sell you a battery for $39.99 and an extended battery for $49.99. Now who's nickel and diming who?
I have carried a cell phone for 17 years and I have never needed nor wanted to buy an additional/replacement battery.
And this business about the AT&T iPhone price plans being cheaper is a lie. Let's compare:
With Verizon, you can get the 450 minute Premium Plan for $79.99, which includes UNLIMITED Nights and Weekends (not capped at 5,000 minutes like AT&T) and unlimited mobile to mobile, plus:
I have yet to meet anyone that could even approach 5,000 minutes (83 hours +) just on nights and weekends. Maybe there are people who do.
--Unlimited data
--Unlimited navigation, included turn-by-turn directions with actual voice navigation, not just a blue dot you have to follow on a Google Map
--Mobile E-mail
--Unlimited Text, Picture Messaging (something the iPhone can't do), unlimited Video Messaging (something the iPhone can't do) and unlimited instant messaging
--Unlimited access to the Vcast service, including ESPN MVP and news, weather and sports videos
Again, the iPhone can do picture messaging (it is unlimited, too). I have had phones that shot video. I used it for the first month and then never touched it. The quality was just too bad. Also, I tried the V-Cast service and it was worthless. I'll take real web sites thank you.
Now what does AT&T give us for the iPhone?
For $69.99, you get unlimited data, unlimited mobile to mobile and 5,000 night and weekend minutes. And oohhhh visual voicemail! And rollover minutes! But you will pay OUT YOUR REAR FOR TEXT MESSAGING! To get unlimited messaging with AT&T, it's another $20. So it's really $89.99...meaning Verizon's plan are actually $10 cheaper.
Apparently, visual voice mail is good enough that Verizon has copied...er, come out with it's own version now. I like having rollover minutes. When I need extra time they are there, when I don't they add up.
I'll take AT&T's service on the iPhone (even if it does lack a few features I would never use) over any crap phone Verizon offers.
1.) You bitch about Verizon yet your iPhone's reception at home is sub-par? How was it with Verizon - I bet no problem.
2.) You know and note that the iPhone is GSM and then bitch that is doesn't work on CDMA Verizon? makes no sense.
3.) Verizon has to cripple most phones because they have GSM feature that won't work with CDMA. example- the Razr.
4.) Verizon charges for the software- where? monthly?
5.) Can you get SMS pix on your iPhone from any other cariers including Verizon?
6.)How's AT&T's notorious lousy customer service? AT&T is ranked near the bottom according to Consumers Reports.
1) I have excellent reception with AT&T - just as good as I had with Verizon.
2) I think he was pointing out to someone else that the iPhone is GSM. They had asked about getting Verizon to work on the iPhone now that they have visual voice mail.
3) What features are directly related to GSM and can't be offered on a CDMA phone (other than SIM related stuff)?
4) If you go to Get It Now it costs to get software (or features). Also, I never received any significant software upgrades on a Verizon phone. So I guess it's fair to say they don't charge for that.
5) Customer service with AT&T has been great. Don't believe everything you read in Consumer Reports. That magazine is a joke.
I have had a cell phone since 1991 (all with batteries) and I have never had to change batteries. Ever.
How many of them were smart phones?
I certainly haven't been owning phones for that long, but my personal experience is a strong downward trend in battery life. I think it's in part due to demands on size and capability is outstripping efficiency gains and battery improvement by a large margin. My first phone lasted about a week on a charge. My second one lasted maybe 3-4 days on a charge. iPhone lasts me maybe a day.
5) Customer service with AT&T has been great. Don't believe everything you read in Consumer Reports. That magazine is a joke.
It's not just Consumer Reports saying that. Every survey I've seen says that. You'll need a better argument than yours to credibly counter those surveys. A single person's personal experience has little weight against surveys.
It's called Email and it works well. I can send and receive MMS from any carrier this way and I don't have to pay additional charges.
I'll take AT&T's service on the iPhone (even if it does lack a few features I would never use) over any crap phone Verizon offers.
1.)No one send MMS pix to an email address. If it goes to your phone number - how do you get it?
2.)It doesn't matter how good is AT&T's service if the connection sucks. Remember your connection is the most important thing on any phone- bar none.
When I had Verizon, I couldn't put music on my phone from my collection. I had to buy it from Verizon. Ringtones were two or three dollars.
The reception was good (I had the Moto e815), but I have had the same quality of service with AT&T and the iPhone.
I have had a cell phone since 1991 (all with batteries) and I have never had to change batteries. Ever.
1.) You can now- that is if you would want music on a phone to begin with.
2.) That depends where you live- Verizon is more consistent.
3.) How long did you have the phone- not 17 years? And it still doesn't matter because with the iPhone if you had to change the battery regardless - with Apple you will be charged $83!!!!!
Replaceable battery is a dead horse people continue to beat on any list criticizing the iPhone.
Everything else you list is not necessarily a block. They are software upgrades than Apple can implement at any time.
It looks like the premium pricing plan you reference is for mid range feature phones - not smartphones. The smartphone pricing plans are more expensive and do not automatically include Mobile Web, VZnavigator, or Vcast.
With a Verizon smartphone- you don't necessarily even need to get a DATA plan!
With the IPhone and AT&T - you have no choice.
And the replaceable battery is not a dead horse- what other phone is that you cannot replace it! without a charge of $83??
Unless you are under warranty and have a defective battery all carriers will charge you for a replacement battery.
No- I talking about a service charge for changing it.
And the battery cost $80? And you cannot change it yourself if need be- is that not a major inconvenience?
Unless you are under warranty and have a defective battery all carriers will charge you for a replacement battery.
No- I talking about a service charge for changing it.
And the battery cost $83? And you can't replace it yourself- is that not an inconvenience?
AT&T's new 3G is pretty fast at times and not so fast at other times. I sit in my house and watch it switch from fast 3G, to slow 3G, to 2.5G, to no service at all in the course of 5 minutes, without moving from the same spot. It seems like they intentionally slow you down after a few minutes until you quit using the web. If I shut it off and log on again I get the same scenario - starts out fast and then slows to a crawl. Very frustrating.
This sounds like a hardware problem more so than anything else, and if it is found that the chipset in the iPhone are defective, Apple will have to reimburse you.
The only feature of what you listed that is blocked is tethering. Part of the reason for this is the iPhone having a capable browser is used on the data network more than any other phone on the market.
This is debatable as Allaboutsymbian posted that the N95 had the most widely used browser. Nokia and Apple use the same webkit and the browsers might not be identifying themselves properly. Still, I would say that the iPhone is in the top 2 or 3 phones used to surf the Internet.
It's called Email and it works well. I can send and receive MMS from any carrier this way and I don't have to pay additional charges.
He is talking about MMS, not email. You used symantics to make your point but he is correct that the iPhone lacks features that have been around for years.
Personally, I never used it and I don't know anyone who does. Having said that, it is currently available via an app and it could be added later (thank you software updates).
It is a very handy feature especially when used with a BT headset.
For those who need it, this would be an issue. If I needed the use of my laptop wirelessly that bad, I would get a card for it...
So you would rather spend money on a feature that has been around since the beginning of the mobile revolution? Back in the day, the earliest Nokia's saw the need for this feature.
I have carried a cell phone for 17 years and I have never needed nor wanted to buy an additional/replacement battery.
Fair enough. Battery technology has changed but not at the pace of devices they power.
I have yet to meet anyone that could even approach 5,000 minutes (83 hours +) just on nights and weekends. Maybe there are people who do.
No comment. Get a teenager and watch your minutes soar.
Again, the iPhone can do picture messaging (it is unlimited, too). I have had phones that shot video. I used it for the first month and then never touched it. The quality was just too bad. Also, I tried the V-Cast service and it was worthless. I'll take real web sites thank you.
Wrong. The iPhone can send emails with attachments that include pictures as the payload. It can not send real MMS, as this requires a different server, and configuration. as for the video in phones, obviously you have never used a Nokia N82, or N95. The video quality is 30 fps and very good.
Apparently, visual voice mail is good enough that Verizon has copied...er, come out with it's own version now. I like having rollover minutes. When I need extra time they are there, when I don't they add up.
If you are going to play the "copy" game, it can be said that Apple copied touch screen interfaces, or copied 3G technology, etc....
How many of them were smart phones?
I certainly haven't been owning phones for that long, but my personal experience is a strong downward trend in battery life. I think it's in part due to demands on size and capability is outstripping efficiency gains and battery improvement by a large margin. My first phone lasted about a week on a charge. My second one lasted maybe 3-4 days on a charge. iPhone lasts me maybe a day.
Exactly. My iPhone lasts almost the entire day. My N82 will go about 3 or 4 days without a charge and my E61, about a week. Earlier non-smart phones did not have the overhead that the new phones now incorporate.
It's not just Consumer Reports saying that. Every survey I've seen says that. You'll need a better argument than yours to credibly counter those surveys. A single person's personal experience has little weight against surveys.
Exactly.