I have a copy of the 3rdQ 2008 conference call and nobody from Apple said anything like that.
But ofcause they did, it was all over the news too. I was listening live and I heard it. I also listened to it on podcast afterwards just to hear the exciting news one more time. Are you seriously trying to claim the F.O. did not say, what he was reported in the news to have said and what I heard he said? Just try google
Look everyone - the point here is this: Ofcause the product transition IS comming. Apple only needs to announce one more event this month to announce this product transition and they will have kept their promise. So the rumor sites is who I'm adressing when I'm asking if they have completely forgotten what we all know Apple said themselves.
The transition is comming this month - whatever it is. the F.O. would not say this so close to the announcement if they were not sure they could deliver.
The question is why the rumor sites are suffering from this short term memory lapse ?
The transition is comming this month - whatever it is. the F.O. would not say this so close to the announcement if they were not sure they could deliver.
The question is why the rumor sites are suffering from this short term memory lapse ?
If we assume the product transition hasn't happened and we also assume it's still going to happen, then I see how you assumed "late september:, but that is not what was stated. It's possible that the Centrino 2 delays have forced Apple to hold off on the notebook transition for month, moving it into October, instead of September.
Apple's next fiscal quarter (Q408)
Apple is targeting $7.8B in revenue and earnings per share of exactly $1.
There is a secret "product transition" that will affect Apple's product margins and drop them to about 30 percent, but which CFO Peter Oppenheimer can't talk about today. Whether this applies to the Mac, iPod, or another category is unclear.
Regarding the mystery transition, Apple doesn't want to leave a margin so high that it creates an "umbrella" for competitors to rest under in terms of price; it often releases products at a high price but lowers their costs later.
These state-of-the-art products will have technologies and features that others "can't match," Oppenheimer says.
I here am also dreaming for a blu-ray mac. With a 7+ GHz Quad Core Fiber Optics processor with DDR3 RAM with support up to 6GB of RAM, and a 1024GB SSD. With 30" LED screen. (Starting at $14,999)
All joking aside, I am looking for (in the iMac)
Blu-ray drive
Option for larger screen
Quad core processor (Nehalem coming soon!)
And any even better monitor! There is nothing wrong with the current one. It's ginormous, crazy bright, super duper contrast, wide color range, shiny , etc. Now... a glossy 30" monitor that's even brighter, higher contrast, with a wider color gamut (or whatever it's called) would be awesome a 30 bit monitor. hahahaha.
I here am also dreaming for a blu-ray mac. With a 7+ GHz Quad Core Fiber Optics processor with DDR3 RAM with support up to 6GB of RAM, and a 1024GB SSD. With 30" LED screen. (Starting at $14,999)
All joking aside, I am looking for (in the iMac)
Blu-ray drive
Option for larger screen
Quad core processor (Nehalem coming soon!)
And any even better monitor! There is nothing wrong with the current one. It's ginormous, crazy bright, super duper contrast, wide color range, shiny , etc. Now... a glossy 30" monitor that's even brighter, higher contrast, with a wider color gamut (or whatever it's called) would be awesome a 30 bit monitor. hahahaha.
2) Moving files over eSATA, USB2.0 and FW and Ethernet is much faster for copying files than burning to a disc or reading.
3) By EMP, I mean electromagnetic pulse. Optical media will not be affected by a such a pulse but all magnetic media is.
Here we go again. You seem to like to either distort or have a warped understanding of how we speak here:
1.) Never said it was-but CD drives were in computers even though DVD was not in the majority and replaced them. Remember CDs far outnumbered DVDs in 1999.
2.) And how would you play that file on your neighbors HD TV who most likely will have a BR in 2 years?
3.) Of course optical media woud not be affected- how could it? You think they will remove disc drives- dream on? Not for 10 years- at least.
But ofcause they did, it was all over the news too. I was listening live and I heard it. I also listened to it on podcast afterwards just to hear the exciting news one more time. Are you seriously trying to claim the F.O. did not say, what he was reported in the news to have said and what I heard he said? Just try google
Try these:
Apple Chief Financial Officer Peter Oppenheimer told analysts that a "future product transition" will lower gross margins from nearly 35 percent during the quarter that ended in June to about 30 percent in 2009."
During the Q&A, an analyst from STM Midwest asked, "Future product transition effect on gross margin; is there a corresponding effect on revenue growth in Sep. quarter?, Oppenheimer responded, "Revenue of about $7.8 billion; 25% growth over last Sep. Have included full quarter ASP impact of back-to-school promotion, future product transition that I can't discuss, and elasticity from shuffle price reduction. Very happy with our revenue growth; best Mac quarter ever, etc. etc."
If we assume the product transition hasn't happened and we also assume it's still going to happen, then I see how you assumed "late september:, but that is not what was stated. It's possible that the Centrino 2 delays have forced Apple to hold off on the notebook transition for month, moving it into October, instead of September.
Apple's next fiscal quarter (Q408)
Apple is targeting $7.8B in revenue and earnings per share of exactly $1.
There is a secret "product transition" that will affect Apple's product margins and drop them to about 30 percent, but which CFO Peter Oppenheimer can't talk about today. Whether this applies to the Mac, iPod, or another category is unclear.
Regarding the mystery transition, Apple doesn't want to leave a margin so high that it creates an "umbrella" for competitors to rest under in terms of price; it often releases products at a high price but lowers their costs later.
These state-of-the-art products will have technologies and features that others "can't match," Oppenheimer says.
Here we go again. You seem to like to either distort or have a warped understanding of how we speak here:
1.) Never said it was-but CD drives were in computers even though DVD was not in the majority and replaced them. Remember CDs far outnumbered DVDs in 1999.
2.) And how would you play that file on your neighbors HD TV who most likely will have a BR in 2 years?
3.) Of course optical media woud not be affected- how could it? You think they will remove disc drives- dream on? Not for 10 years- at least.
You might want to reverse that.
1) We ewre talking about the relevance of having an optical drive in a personal computer. When one tech in personal computers get trumped by other tech we tend to remove it. Apple seems to jump the gun and other OEMS tend to be bit behind on these matters. This is no way talking about VHS or any home entertainment setup. We are talking about the relevance of optical drive for the majority of users in computers today and the near future.
2) The same way play any other digital file: Stream it, put it on a network share, or copy it to a physical medium that can be transported (like an HDD or flash drive).
3) Oh man! I pointed out the one major benefit that optical media has over any magnetic media. It was a lark. What was your comment about DVDs surviving because BR can play DVDs? That has nothing to do with my comment.
As for your last comment, if you are referring to optical drives, then yes, it's inevitable they will leave notebooks within a couple years. Take a gander at a slim notebook optical drive. It takes up a considerable amount of the computer's overall volume. About 50% more than any 2.5" HDD, I'd say. DVDl drives are slow to read, very slow to write and use too much power compared to other standard storage mediums. You add BR to that and you an even bigger issue with power. If you think that DVD drives will be the average notebook in 10 years, then I'm just completely dumbfounded by that idea.
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Could you supply the reference to your quote?
I have a copy of the 3rdQ 2008 conference call and nobody from Apple said anything like that.
But ofcause they did, it was all over the news too. I was listening live and I heard it. I also listened to it on podcast afterwards just to hear the exciting news one more time. Are you seriously trying to claim the F.O. did not say, what he was reported in the news to have said and what I heard he said? Just try google
The transition is comming this month - whatever it is. the F.O. would not say this so close to the announcement if they were not sure they could deliver.
The question is why the rumor sites are suffering from this short term memory lapse ?
Could you supply the reference to your quote?
I have a copy of the 3rdQ 2008 conference call and nobody from Apple said anything like that.
Why?.
Why did people want DVD drives in 1999?
The transition is comming this month - whatever it is. the F.O. would not say this so close to the announcement if they were not sure they could deliver.
The question is why the rumor sites are suffering from this short term memory lapse ?
If we assume the product transition hasn't happened and we also assume it's still going to happen, then I see how you assumed "late september:, but that is not what was stated. It's possible that the Centrino 2 delays have forced Apple to hold off on the notebook transition for month, moving it into October, instead of September.
• The majority of consumers don't seem to use it often.
• HDD and flash are faster mediums that hold considerably more data.
DVDs will survive an EMP, but that isn't a real concern with most people.
1.) The majority of consumers used VHS in 1999 but Apple put a DVD drive in the iMac SE in Nov 1999.
2.) Doesn't matter 'cause you can't transport data as fast as you can on a disc i.e. HD movies from iMovieHD.
3.) You can play DVDs on BR drives so of course DVDs will survive.
1.) The majority of consumers used VHS in 1999 but Apple put a DVD drive in the iMac SE in Nov 1999.
2.) Doesn't matter 'cause you can't transport data as fast as you can on a disc i.e. HD movies from iMovieHD.
3.) You can play DVDs on BR drives so of course DVDs will survive.
Sometimes you just blow my mind, Teckstud.
1) VHS wasn't built into personal computers.
2) Moving files over eSATA, USB2.0 and FW and Ethernet is much faster for copying files than burning to a disc or reading.
3) By EMP, I mean electromagnetic pulse. Optical media will not be affected by a such a pulse but all magnetic media is.
Option a blu-ray drive to the iMac already.
I here am also dreaming for a blu-ray mac. With a 7+ GHz Quad Core Fiber Optics processor with DDR3 RAM with support up to 6GB of RAM, and a 1024GB SSD. With 30" LED screen. (Starting at $14,999)
All joking aside, I am looking for (in the iMac)
Blu-ray drive
Option for larger screen
Quad core processor (Nehalem coming soon!)
And any even better monitor! There is nothing wrong with the current one. It's ginormous, crazy bright, super duper contrast, wide color range, shiny
Option a blu-ray drive to the iMac already.
Buy an external drive and you will get better performance. A slot load Blu Ray drive will be slow as a snail.
Buy an external drive and you will get better performance. A slot load Blu Ray drive will be slow as a snail.
Really-tell why? Other computers have them- is that a Mac problem only?
I here am also dreaming for a blu-ray mac. With a 7+ GHz Quad Core Fiber Optics processor with DDR3 RAM with support up to 6GB of RAM, and a 1024GB SSD. With 30" LED screen. (Starting at $14,999)
All joking aside, I am looking for (in the iMac)
Blu-ray drive
Option for larger screen
Quad core processor (Nehalem coming soon!)
And any even better monitor! There is nothing wrong with the current one. It's ginormous, crazy bright, super duper contrast, wide color range, shiny
Wouldn't widescreen need to be 32"?
Wouldn't widescreen need to be 32"?
http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9...OQ&mco=MTI1NzM
Sometimes you just blow my mind, Teckstud.
1) VHS wasn't built into personal computers.
2) Moving files over eSATA, USB2.0 and FW and Ethernet is much faster for copying files than burning to a disc or reading.
3) By EMP, I mean electromagnetic pulse. Optical media will not be affected by a such a pulse but all magnetic media is.
Here we go again. You seem to like to either distort or have a warped understanding of how we speak here:
1.) Never said it was-but CD drives were in computers even though DVD was not in the majority and replaced them. Remember CDs far outnumbered DVDs in 1999.
2.) And how would you play that file on your neighbors HD TV who most likely will have a BR in 2 years?
3.) Of course optical media woud not be affected- how could it?
But ofcause they did, it was all over the news too. I was listening live and I heard it. I also listened to it on podcast afterwards just to hear the exciting news one more time. Are you seriously trying to claim the F.O. did not say, what he was reported in the news to have said and what I heard he said? Just try google
Try these:
Apple Chief Financial Officer Peter Oppenheimer told analysts that a "future product transition" will lower gross margins from nearly 35 percent during the quarter that ended in June to about 30 percent in 2009."
During the Q&A, an analyst from STM Midwest asked, "Future product transition effect on gross margin; is there a corresponding effect on revenue growth in Sep. quarter?, Oppenheimer responded, "Revenue of about $7.8 billion; 25% growth over last Sep. Have included full quarter ASP impact of back-to-school promotion, future product transition that I can't discuss, and elasticity from shuffle price reduction. Very happy with our revenue growth; best Mac quarter ever, etc. etc."
http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9...OQ&mco=MTI1NzM
OMG- that's so funny- I scroll down the page and the very first thing I read says "Do not buy this".
Seriously isn't that size outdated in that 16:9 would be 32" as most HD TVs are?
If we assume the product transition hasn't happened and we also assume it's still going to happen, then I see how you assumed "late september:, but that is not what was stated. It's possible that the Centrino 2 delays have forced Apple to hold off on the notebook transition for month, moving it into October, instead of September.
I believe what Oppenheimer said was, "We're delivering state of the art products at price points that can't be matched..." Notice the present tense.
Wouldn't widescreen need to be 32"?
be precise.
Here we go again. You seem to like to either distort or have a warped understanding of how we speak here:
1.) Never said it was-but CD drives were in computers even though DVD was not in the majority and replaced them. Remember CDs far outnumbered DVDs in 1999.
2.) And how would you play that file on your neighbors HD TV who most likely will have a BR in 2 years?
3.) Of course optical media woud not be affected- how could it?
You might want to reverse that.
1) We ewre talking about the relevance of having an optical drive in a personal computer. When one tech in personal computers get trumped by other tech we tend to remove it. Apple seems to jump the gun and other OEMS tend to be bit behind on these matters. This is no way talking about VHS or any home entertainment setup. We are talking about the relevance of optical drive for the majority of users in computers today and the near future.
2) The same way play any other digital file: Stream it, put it on a network share, or copy it to a physical medium that can be transported (like an HDD or flash drive).
3) Oh man! I pointed out the one major benefit that optical media has over any magnetic media. It was a lark. What was your comment about DVDs surviving because BR can play DVDs? That has nothing to do with my comment.
As for your last comment, if you are referring to optical drives, then yes, it's inevitable they will leave notebooks within a couple years. Take a gander at a slim notebook optical drive. It takes up a considerable amount of the computer's overall volume. About 50% more than any 2.5" HDD, I'd say. DVDl drives are slow to read, very slow to write and use too much power compared to other standard storage mediums. You add BR to that and you an even bigger issue with power. If you think that DVD drives will be the average notebook in 10 years, then I'm just completely dumbfounded by that idea.
? The majority of consumers don't seem to use it often.
? HDD and flash are faster mediums that hold considerably more data.
DVDs will survive an EMP, but that isn't a real concern with most people.
Hey when its just me and the cockroaches I want to have something decent to watch.
I seem to remember that the two are usually fairly close (but I could just be making that up).
10.5.5 is supposedly just around the corner...