Minor wierd things about Jaguar 6C115
So I'm running 10.2 build 6C115. These question are addressed other people using this OS.
I've got a PowerBook G4 550 (2nd Generation with 16 MB VRAM). I notice that when I scroll in a program like Explorer, Word, or anything else with live scrolling, there is this strange, light chirping sound that emanates from either the hard drive or the GPU. It sounds like a hard drive accessing, but not really. It might be, but I'm not sure. Is virtual memory being used for VRAM or something? Or does my GPU make noise when it's under heavy use? This is kind of weird. Performance is great, I'm just curious about the sound.
Also, my hard drive makes a kind of heavy access noise, a loud click followed by some short stubble, that it didn't use to make. It's kind of strange. I wonder what they changed that makes it do that.
But over all, I've only been using it for a few hours so I can't say much about it. But Quartz Extreme runs very well, apparently -- the new Finder is very cool. I like how it does not open Sherlock when you hit command-F in the Finder, but opens a new, simplified "Find" dialog, and Sherlock has become a more specialized app. That's cool.
I still miss pop-up folders, big time. My FruitMenu and my ASM no longer function so I'll have to wait for updates on these essentials -- although I still think Apple is lame for not buying FruitMenu and ASM and building them right into 10.2, because they should be there. Thankfully WindowShade X still works! Although I think that it, too, ought to be built-in.
VirtualPC seems to run a bit less sluggishly with Quartz Extreme but still perhaps not as nice as under 9.
Overall, 10.2 is very nice, and is what we've been waiting for. This is what 10.0 should have been like, I think, and I hate it that Apple is charging us extra for what we should have had in the first place. But then again, I didn't pay for it, so, F.U. Steve!! (The computer itself was expensive enough!)
-=PH=-
I've got a PowerBook G4 550 (2nd Generation with 16 MB VRAM). I notice that when I scroll in a program like Explorer, Word, or anything else with live scrolling, there is this strange, light chirping sound that emanates from either the hard drive or the GPU. It sounds like a hard drive accessing, but not really. It might be, but I'm not sure. Is virtual memory being used for VRAM or something? Or does my GPU make noise when it's under heavy use? This is kind of weird. Performance is great, I'm just curious about the sound.
Also, my hard drive makes a kind of heavy access noise, a loud click followed by some short stubble, that it didn't use to make. It's kind of strange. I wonder what they changed that makes it do that.
But over all, I've only been using it for a few hours so I can't say much about it. But Quartz Extreme runs very well, apparently -- the new Finder is very cool. I like how it does not open Sherlock when you hit command-F in the Finder, but opens a new, simplified "Find" dialog, and Sherlock has become a more specialized app. That's cool.
I still miss pop-up folders, big time. My FruitMenu and my ASM no longer function so I'll have to wait for updates on these essentials -- although I still think Apple is lame for not buying FruitMenu and ASM and building them right into 10.2, because they should be there. Thankfully WindowShade X still works! Although I think that it, too, ought to be built-in.
VirtualPC seems to run a bit less sluggishly with Quartz Extreme but still perhaps not as nice as under 9.
Overall, 10.2 is very nice, and is what we've been waiting for. This is what 10.0 should have been like, I think, and I hate it that Apple is charging us extra for what we should have had in the first place. But then again, I didn't pay for it, so, F.U. Steve!! (The computer itself was expensive enough!)
-=PH=-
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IIRC, that clicking when scrolling was in 9.
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In full-screen mode, it does blit directly to the frame buffer (since CoreGraphics allows you to do this once you've captured a display). But in windowed mode, it uses CopyBits to draw into the window - so it is very much using the Quartz compositor in windowed mode. Quartz Extreme would indeed help in this case.
<strong>Also, I'll bet your speed boost in Virtual PC was actually a placebo effect. VCP already uses calls to blit directly to the screen, effectively bypassing the slowness of Quartz's double-buffer.</strong><hr></blockquote>
If Jaguar was more optimized and efficient and was allowing VPC to get more processor time, that would cause a speedup.
<strong>Are you sure the noises you're hearing aren't the new (old) sound effects?
IIRC, that clicking when scrolling was in 9.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Oh yeah, definitely, it's not a sound effect like that. When I put my Sennheisers on, I can't even hear the effect at all since the headphones block the light sound. But with them off, especially if I lean close to the keyboard, I can hear it very distinctly. Weird.
I mean, I'm not really complaining, but it's just damn weird.
<strong>Ok, so I justin installed Jagwire, and my only minor complaint is that it killed my addressbook. Gone. While I have a backup, I can't manage to find a way to export from my 10.1.5 addressbook on my ibook. Nor can I import it under 10.2. Very frustrating, because I think I am just overlooking something.
Has this happened to anyone else? I don't want my address book to get flushed when I install Jaguar..
What are you worried about? I mean, a professional software developer would never install a beta OS on their test machine, so obviously you don't have any mission-critical data on the machine to lose.
And certainly you're not yet another f---ing 14-year-old software pirate. Of course not.
Make a folder, name it 'Addresses'.
Open Address Book. Hit Cmd-A (or menu item Edit->Select All).
Drag the items to the folder you made in the Finder.
Drop.
You now have a VCard directory that should be importable to Address Book in Jaguar, no matter what.
the sherlock rox. what i think is funny though is that the new file finder look almsot exactly the same as the one on an old LC2 on like os 6 or something.
<strong>i like the new busy sign, the pinwheel thing.
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brad, could you make a movie of that, please ?
<strong>brad, could you make a movie of that, please ?</strong><hr></blockquote>No-can-do.
Though, I might capture it with my video camera later.
Why? The new cursors' alpha channel and greater than 16x16 size prevent Snapz from capturing them correctly. No worries, though, as Andrew is working on a 10.2-only version of Snapz that will properly capture the new cursors. Once 1.0.6 gets out the door, all efforts will be devoted to the newer version.
<strong>Though, I might capture it with my video camera later.
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k'
thanks a bunch
<strong>I like how it now has a 'timer' after you select shutdown or restart, you at least know the computer hasent frozen up at this point now.</strong><hr></blockquote>
image ?
<strong>I think he means that spinning bar thing.</strong><hr></blockquote>
ha ?
I don't have Jaguar, so could someone make a screenshot, please ?