Will it die faster than Sony's new $4,450 Vaio TT?
Also thanks for pointing that model put out to me- only $500 to add a blu-ray drive to it. Interesting not $1,000 as some self-annoited expert on here has claimed.
BTW- did you compare the specs between that which you mention and the MBA- it's embarrasing.
Also thanks for pointing that model put out to me- only $500 to add a blu-ray drive to it. Interesting not $1,000 as some self-annoited expert on here has claimed.
BTW- did you compare the specs between that which you mention and the MBA- it's embarrasing.
The Vaio uses a tray loading BD drive. Solpism said a slot loading drive like the Mac's use cost $1000.
The Vaio uses a slower processor. Apple could add more RAM and 256 SSD. That would raise the price of the MBA by $2000.
Is it possible you don't understand the market as well as Sony-Apple and others who sell similar notebooks.
And I suppose you haven't read or perhaps understand that the sales for the MBA are stagnant? I haven't read Sony sales reports for the TT or TZ. Have you?
The Vaio uses a tray loading BD drive. Solpism said a slot loading drive like the Mac's use cost $1000.
The Vaio uses a slower processor. Apple could add more RAM and 256 SSD. That would raise the price of the MBA by $2000.
So add it to the MacBookPro then. My point is -it's almost 2009 and no Mac has a blu-ray drive. Many of us want one. Just because you may not doesn't make it an undersirable option.
So add it to the MacBookPro then. My point is -it's almost 2009 and no Mac has a blu-ray drive. Many of us want one. Just because you may not doesn't make it an undersirable option.
I agree with Teckstud here. And if the MBP needs a thicker enclosure to accommodate a tray drive then so be it.
Apple's most expensive and technologically advanced laptop should have the most advanced optical drive available as well.
The Vaio uses a tray loading BD drive. Solpism said a slot loading drive like the Mac's use cost $1000.
After FuturePastNow pointed out that the drive uses a Panasonic UJ-225, I was able to find listings on Google Shopping for as low as $550. But how much would Apple charge if that is lowest end of the retail price range when we know that Apple sells their upgrades for considerably m7ore? And, of course, this still doesn't address the issue that this drive is a 12.7mm drive, not a 9.5mm drive in either a reader or burner.
PS: Imagine the uproar is Apple does release a BLu-ray option that is only a reader.
And I suppose you haven't read or perhaps understand that the sales for the MBA are stagnant? I haven't read Sony sales reports for the TT or TZ. Have you?
There's only one reason for that, they're at the end of their update cycle, and everyone is waiting for the update to them. It's normal. At the start of the update cycle, they sell like hotcakes and then a couple months later sales start slowing down.
Seriously, anyone else laughing at the $250 target?
Munster is on drugs!
Yeah I am not sure anyone should consult him for 401k advice. Apple's one year high is just about 200.00 not sure how he expect 250.00 when the market drops about 7% daily.
I expect AAPL to hit in the low 80's before the pain ends.
Seriously, anyone else laughing at the $250 target?
I am betting my savings (buying AAPL tomorrow) that he's actually quite right (for once).
Prediction:
The coming weeks* Apple will recover (slowly) from the massive hit their shares have taken lately.
By December AAPL will reach $170, fall to $150 in January and then start up again, reaching above $200 (if no split is issued) before summer. $250 within a year seems quite reasonable.
*given that the financial crisis doesn't get much deeper than today.
The above is based upon the massive growth potential Apple computers/iPhones has worldwide.
Despite their current success in the states, Apple is still a smallish player on the international market.
If Apple would reach anywhere near the market shares they have in the US in other countries their sales/earnings/stock price could easily triple.
I am betting my savings (buying AAPL tomorrow) that he's actually quite right (for once).
Prediction:
The coming weeks* Apple will recover (slowly) from the massive hit their shares have taken lately.
By December AAPL will reach $170, fall to $150 in January and then start up again, reaching above $200 (if no split is issued) before summer. $250 within a year seems quite reasonable.
*given that the financial crisis doesn't get much deeper than today.
The above is based upon the massive growth potential Apple computers/iPhones has worldwide.
Despite their current success in the states, Apple is still a smallish player on the international market.
If Apple would reach anywhere near the market shares they have in the US in other countries their sales/earnings/stock price could easily triple.
Of course this is just my opinion like everyone else but Apple stands no chance of seeing 170 anytime soon. Apple could come out with the best products on earth and the simple fact is people are not spending. This is expected to be the worst holiday buying season in the past two decades.
Apple has never seen 250.00 I certainly don't expect it to see 250.00 with the world economy this bad.
Consumers simply are not thinking about buying ipods and macbooks.
That has to be the most asinine and uncorroborated statement I have ever seen.
Best you troll elsewhere. We really couldn't give a rat's ass what you think
Exaggerated? Sure. Troll? No way.
He does have a point, right now the $1100 macbook doesn't have a DVD burner. PCs have that at half the price and less.
There's no question that Apple is very very often uncompetitive on specs on the low end models. Especially since Apple only bumps specs every few months - when the configuration is new it's usually not too bad, but after months of competitors lowering prices and raising specs almost continuously, the macs can get WAY out of date pretty fast.
Hopefully this new batch of releases will turn over a new leaf.
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Originally Posted by TenoBell
I'm not sure what you mean. Over the last two years everytime Intel has launched a major new architecture Apple was the first to use its best mobile chipsets. PC OEM often use slower chips with less L2 cache.
It seems obvious that what he means is that the base Apple models tend to lag way behind in ram, HD size, and optical drive specs. Unless the machine is insanely cheap, it seems criminal not to include DVD burning. And I have to agree that it's pretty unbelievable that Apple hasn't shipped a single machine at this late date that even includes BD as an OPTION.
Quote:
Originally Posted by teckstud
And I suppose you haven't read or perhaps understand that the sales for the MBA are stagnant?
Link?
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcarling
As long as it's available only as an external option, then I agree with you.
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Will it die faster than Sony's new $4,450 Vaio TT?
Also thanks for pointing that model put out to me- only $500 to add a blu-ray drive to it. Interesting not $1,000 as some self-annoited expert on here has claimed.
BTW- did you compare the specs between that which you mention and the MBA- it's embarrasing.
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...g_vinb_gglsrch
Also thanks for pointing that model put out to me- only $500 to add a blu-ray drive to it. Interesting not $1,000 as some self-annoited expert on here has claimed.
BTW- did you compare the specs between that which you mention and the MBA- it's embarrasing.
The Vaio uses a tray loading BD drive. Solpism said a slot loading drive like the Mac's use cost $1000.
The Vaio uses a slower processor. Apple could add more RAM and 256 SSD. That would raise the price of the MBA by $2000.
Slash the pr$ce of the MBA- forget the spec updates. The MacorexicBookAir will die a slooow and painful death if it's not priced lower.
I think they should make an entry level "netbook" version of the macbook air in a plastic case
11" MacBook nano
1.6 Ghz Core2Duo
2GB of 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM
80GB 4200-rpm PATA HD
available in 1 configuration, 9 different colors (plastic case)
available for $899
13" MacBook Air
1.8 Ghz Core2Duo
2GB of 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM
120GB 4200-rpm PATA HD
available for $1399
13" MacBook Air
2.0 Ghz Core2Duo
4GB of 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM
128GB SSD
available for $1999
P9500 (6M L2 Cache 2.53Ghz 1066 Mhz FSB 45nM) $348
T9400 (6M L2 Cache 2.53Ghz 1066 Mhz FSB 45nM) $316
P8600 (3M L2 Cache 2.40Ghz 1066 Mhz FSB 45nM) $241
P8400 (3M L2 Cache 2.26Ghz 1066 Mhz FSB 45nM) $209
what are these?
SP9400 (6M L2 Cache 2.40Ghz 1066 Mhz FSB 45nM) $316
SP9300 (6M L2 Cache 2.26Ghz 1066 Mhz FSB 45nM) $284
which CPU goes to macbook & Pro (or iMac) what is the difference between P & SP (i know current ones use T models)
and of course for high end BTOs are
Quad Cores
QX9300 (12M L2 Cache 2.53Ghz 1066 Mhz FSB 45nM) $1038
Q9100 (12M L2 Cache 2.26Ghz 1066 Mhz FSB 45nM) $851
Dual cores
X9100 (6M L2 Cache 3.06Ghz 1066 Mhz FSB 45nM) $851
X9000 (6M L2 Cache 2.80Ghz 1066 Mhz FSB 45nM) $851
Is it possible you don't understand the market as well as Sony-Apple and others who sell similar notebooks.
And I suppose you haven't read or perhaps understand that the sales for the MBA are stagnant? I haven't read Sony sales reports for the TT or TZ. Have you?
For $899 you'll get a single panel or a two panel MacBook touch... and you will like it!
You are joking right?
The Vaio uses a tray loading BD drive. Solpism said a slot loading drive like the Mac's use cost $1000.
The Vaio uses a slower processor. Apple could add more RAM and 256 SSD. That would raise the price of the MBA by $2000.
So add it to the MacBookPro then. My point is -it's almost 2009 and no Mac has a blu-ray drive. Many of us want one. Just because you may not doesn't make it an undersirable option.
So add it to the MacBookPro then. My point is -it's almost 2009 and no Mac has a blu-ray drive. Many of us want one. Just because you may not doesn't make it an undersirable option.
I agree with Teckstud here. And if the MBP needs a thicker enclosure to accommodate a tray drive then so be it.
Apple's most expensive and technologically advanced laptop should have the most advanced optical drive available as well.
The Vaio uses a tray loading BD drive. Solpism said a slot loading drive like the Mac's use cost $1000.
After FuturePastNow pointed out that the drive uses a Panasonic UJ-225, I was able to find listings on Google Shopping for as low as $550. But how much would Apple charge if that is lowest end of the retail price range when we know that Apple sells their upgrades for considerably m7ore? And, of course, this still doesn't address the issue that this drive is a 12.7mm drive, not a 9.5mm drive in either a reader or burner.
PS: Imagine the uproar is Apple does release a BLu-ray option that is only a reader.
And I suppose you haven't read or perhaps understand that the sales for the MBA are stagnant? I haven't read Sony sales reports for the TT or TZ. Have you?
There's only one reason for that, they're at the end of their update cycle, and everyone is waiting for the update to them. It's normal. At the start of the update cycle, they sell like hotcakes and then a couple months later sales start slowing down.
Munster is on drugs!
Seriously, anyone else laughing at the $250 target?
Munster is on drugs!
Yeah I am not sure anyone should consult him for 401k advice. Apple's one year high is just about 200.00 not sure how he expect 250.00 when the market drops about 7% daily.
I expect AAPL to hit in the low 80's before the pain ends.
PS: Imagine the uproar is Apple does release a BLu-ray option that is only a reader.
Why would that be? Was there an uproar when Apple only released DVD readers long before writers were available? or CD readers before CD writers?
Is it possible you don't understand the market as well as Sony-Apple and others who sell similar notebooks.
BTW--The market you speak of has tanked. Not even Apple could have predicted that- sorry to say.
I agree with Teckstud here. And if the MBP needs a thicker enclosure to accommodate a tray drive then so be it.
Apple's most expensive and technologically advanced laptop should have the most advanced optical drive available as well.
Thank god- at last!
That sentence is brilliant- you've summed it up.
Seriously, anyone else laughing at the $250 target?
Munster is on drugs!
Must be related to Herman and Lily.
Seriously, anyone else laughing at the $250 target?
I am betting my savings (buying AAPL tomorrow) that he's actually quite right (for once).
Prediction:
The coming weeks* Apple will recover (slowly) from the massive hit their shares have taken lately.
By December AAPL will reach $170, fall to $150 in January and then start up again, reaching above $200 (if no split is issued) before summer. $250 within a year seems quite reasonable.
*given that the financial crisis doesn't get much deeper than today.
The above is based upon the massive growth potential Apple computers/iPhones has worldwide.
Despite their current success in the states, Apple is still a smallish player on the international market.
If Apple would reach anywhere near the market shares they have in the US in other countries their sales/earnings/stock price could easily triple.
Apple's most expensive and technologically advanced laptop should have the most advanced optical drive available as well.
As long as it's available only as an external option, then I agree with you.
I am betting my savings (buying AAPL tomorrow) that he's actually quite right (for once).
Prediction:
The coming weeks* Apple will recover (slowly) from the massive hit their shares have taken lately.
By December AAPL will reach $170, fall to $150 in January and then start up again, reaching above $200 (if no split is issued) before summer. $250 within a year seems quite reasonable.
*given that the financial crisis doesn't get much deeper than today.
The above is based upon the massive growth potential Apple computers/iPhones has worldwide.
Despite their current success in the states, Apple is still a smallish player on the international market.
If Apple would reach anywhere near the market shares they have in the US in other countries their sales/earnings/stock price could easily triple.
Of course this is just my opinion like everyone else but Apple stands no chance of seeing 170 anytime soon. Apple could come out with the best products on earth and the simple fact is people are not spending. This is expected to be the worst holiday buying season in the past two decades.
Apple has never seen 250.00 I certainly don't expect it to see 250.00 with the world economy this bad.
Consumers simply are not thinking about buying ipods and macbooks.
That has to be the most asinine and uncorroborated statement I have ever seen.
Best you troll elsewhere. We really couldn't give a rat's ass what you think
Exaggerated? Sure. Troll? No way.
He does have a point, right now the $1100 macbook doesn't have a DVD burner. PCs have that at half the price and less.
There's no question that Apple is very very often uncompetitive on specs on the low end models. Especially since Apple only bumps specs every few months - when the configuration is new it's usually not too bad, but after months of competitors lowering prices and raising specs almost continuously, the macs can get WAY out of date pretty fast.
Hopefully this new batch of releases will turn over a new leaf.
I'm not sure what you mean. Over the last two years everytime Intel has launched a major new architecture Apple was the first to use its best mobile chipsets. PC OEM often use slower chips with less L2 cache.
It seems obvious that what he means is that the base Apple models tend to lag way behind in ram, HD size, and optical drive specs. Unless the machine is insanely cheap, it seems criminal not to include DVD burning. And I have to agree that it's pretty unbelievable that Apple hasn't shipped a single machine at this late date that even includes BD as an OPTION.
And I suppose you haven't read or perhaps understand that the sales for the MBA are stagnant?
Link?
As long as it's available only as an external option, then I agree with you.
What a horrible suggestion.