Well, I have received an offer today with the 2GB RAM, 250 GB HD configuration for a total of 1450 USD (including 3 year international warranty) from my dealer. And, no matter how I look at it, it is tempting.
That's a special deal and not what it costs from Lenovo. A third party dealer could do the same thing with a Mac if they chose to.
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How I figure it kills the MacBook? Well, the primary market for a 13" device is people wanting a small (and maybe affordable) laptop, not a workstation replacement. I do need things in a small laptop that I require outdoors or at a customer's location (like UMTS if they do not allow me on their network, the ability to capture video and photos) in the smallest package possible. Based on this requirement the MacBook fails on all accounts (almost as much as the MBA)... no UMTS (and no means to add it via ExpressCard), thanks to the iPhone lockdown no tethering there either, no ports, but a stupid optical drive I have not used in a lifetime (as it is substandard anyhow). Just a lot of weight and shiny metal for big money... a price point at which you can get fully equipped 17" workstations elsewhere (a lot uglier, I know). I love OS X and I accept a certain Apple premium, I just think that this time they went far too far. And I have a certain impression that they have lost track of their line-up as well.
You've narrowed your requirements down to some very specifics that the X200 can provide. In turn down playing the advantages of the MacBook. This is called stacking the deck.
If the X200 is a better tool for your specific needs that's fine. But that does not make it an over all better machine than the MacBook.
People too often like to throw out PC's as cheaper with better specs. When you actually look at them. The reality is they have compromised somewhere the same as Apple has had to compromise somewhere with the Mac. The idea is to find the compromise that fits your need.
Firewire in not just for camcoders. Its a must have when using external HD's with laptops !!!
valid point...
many of them also use to utilize the port (remember there are only two USB ports) lots of mac users (us) specifically look for firewire external hard drive, so use that fire wire as well
What do you think the move to NVIDIA means for Apple's long-game? Attracting PC gamers seems pointless. I'm thinking that they have have high expectations of OpenCL being about to really boost the performance for their machines, but do you have a better idea?
PS: As much as I like the new machine method and the performance 'statements' of the NIVIDIA chips, I have doubts about both and will be waiting a couple months until I update my current Mac notebook. Mostly, I don't trust NVIDIA enough to jump into a new Mac right now.
I think that 10.6 has something to do with it. But if they are right, and Nvidia approched THEM, which seems likely, as Apple is the first to not only get this chip, but to have even SEEN it, then Apple might have said "Yum, we can use that".
Yeah, I don't trust Nvidia. The rumors that have been flying around is that they were getting out of the chipset business altogether. I guess not.
If they pull a cheapie fast one again like they did with the solder connections on ALL of the current chips (not these new ones), then that will be a problem.
This could attract PC game COMPANIES. Then the gamers will follow. After John Carmack, and others have been loudly complaining about the graphics performance for years, this will cut down on one of their complaints about Apple.
I think its a good move. It's been brought up that this could inspire Intel to increase their work on integrated graphics as well.
It did help to increase the price of the new Macbooks, though I think that a big component of that was the new cases.
Apple has been sued before over the fact that they would advertize new features on the OS, but older machines, or lower end machines couldn't utilize them, or they just ran damned slow.
This could also be an attempt to alleviate that problem when 10.6 does come out next year.
I thought Macs were supposed to be user-friendly. Removing Target Disk Mode de-friendly-izes them so much it makes owners obtain and use an obscure screwdriver and other geek tools.
You are making the big mistake of using reason here. Apple fanboys will justify any nonsense on Apple's behalf, even if a deaf, dumb and blind person would be able to identify them as nonsense.
People list what they need FW for (all reasonable) and get all kinds of friendly condescending bullshit: Move your FW disks into a USB case, buy a bigger Mac, buy a heavier Mac, buy a more expensive Mac, buy an old Mac, use eBay, get an engineering degree and mess with the guts of the damn thing yourself, anything and then some... barely a single person with the decency, reason and attitude to even imagine others could have a reasonable need and - HE forbid - Apple might have made a mistake. Just imagine all these great lemmings would be with Scientology... measuring the brain activity of tomatoes would be more popular than baseball.
DVCPRO HD from tape or p2? Because your unfairly skewing the argument under the assumption that the OP knows nothing of what you speak. Obviously taking dvcpro hd files through usb from a p2 reader is nothing to write home about, that isn't real time transfer the way you need for dv or hdv from tape. Your post is misdirection.
Its not misdirection. This argument is about transferring video over USB. I'm pointing out it is possible.
Yes transferring a digital file is not real time like running a tape. Its not real time because data transfer is much faster. But that's just an advantage of that method.
One can't provide confidence, but the Torx costs $4, and is available as a tip for a couple of bucks in almost any hardware store. The SATA case costs $29.95, and can be bought in a number of places.
I have to say though, that most of the time, if the disk is corrupted enough so that the machine won't boot from it or the drive won't mount, it's also too corrupted for target disk mode as well. I've tried it a number of times on people's machines, and it only worked a few times. The other times, I had to take the disk out, use equipment to do a bit by bit copy to another drive (putting the contents in a folder). Then I used software to try and extract files. Not easy, and lots of stuff gets lost forever, unless you want to spend in the high three figures, or four figures, to get it recovered.
For just transferring information, Ethernet works best, and is faster than FW 800, if you use GB Ethernet, which is pretty cheap, and common, these days.
You sure about that? On paper gigabit ethernet is faster but my experience copying large amounts of data is that they're either about the same of FW800 is faster.
Again, some of this shock and outrage would have been molified if apple just told people to never buy firewire devices years ago and just said 'we're keeping this for legacy stuff'.
Then we'd all have known not to buy firewire 400 drives or other things.
To me, it's a bit of a slap in the face. I have a firewire 800, 400, USB external RAID backup that I use for all sorts of things. Its awesome. for kicks once, I tried using it on USB.
LOL. USB SUCKS.
I kind of wish my external raid used esata b/c it's faster than fw 800, but i figured apple wouldn't ever obsolete firewire, so i'd be ok. I even stupidly figured eventually MBs would get firewire800, so i could just keep using it.
I'd have ponied up the extra 50 or 100 bucks to get esata if i'd known they were going to stop using it.
Am I alone? Evidently not. Apple screwed the pooch and they should fix this ASAP. Preferably by adding FW800 instead of 400.
Never, ever figure that an interface standard won't be replaced. Never, ever!
Apple pioneered SCSI for mainstream computers for many years, then they dropped it like a hot potato. You want me to tell you of the problems that ensued?
I have two FW towers, now in the Attic of Old Machinery Museum I maintain upstairs.
I don't miss them. I much prefer my E-SATA.
Goodby to FW. RIP in lower priced machines.
It will live on in the pro machines for a while yet.
But, next year comes USB 3, far superior to USB 2, and even in some respects FW.
Then also next year comes Power Over SATA and E-SATA, which kills FW cold for drives.
When those two are out, Apple should take them up, as pro equipment will.
We should start seeing them on Apple's machines next year, along with Duispay Port.
It's going to be a whole new world of connectors out there, learn to love it, we will have several years before they all change again.
BTW, I've already spoken with two of my DJ/creator pals in Tokyo, and while they are both disappointed about the lack of FW in the new MacBooks, they understand the move, are not going bonkers over it, and one is already committing to buy a new MBP, and the other is contemplating snatching up the 2.4GHz black MacBook while supplies last. Really, that is the attitude some of you need.
rawhead if Apple had left the black Macbook @ $999 I probably would have but I think I detest the white plastic Macbook more than having a alu Macbook without Firewire.
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Hmmm! Interesting point.
'murch, he's got you on that one.
Yeah..I realize there's no right or wrong ..it all depends on the persepective but every now and then you gotta let a little nerd rage out.
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does anyone remember the audience applauding at any point during the announcements? I remember several pregnant pauses, ones i thought were built-in in anticipation of an audience response, that were met with silence. I know this wasn't a mac fanboy mwsf keynote audience, but i've seen earlier press event video and the audience showed its approval at numerous points. this time, not so much...
Yes...I kind of new this was coming when Apple moved to Intel hardware. The surprise or belief that "anything can come" was gone. Everyone who follows computing closely knows Intel's roadmap and thus we already know what Apple's going to go with. Though the nvidia transition was interesting.
Never, ever figure that an interface standard won't be replaced. Never, ever!
Apple pioneered SCSI for mainstream computers for many years, then they dropped it like a hot potato. You want me to tell you of the problems that ensued?
I don't think they will really listen to anything you've said.
The answer will come accusing you of mindlessly going along with whatever Steve Jobs tells you.
What do you mean it doesn't work RELIABLY with USB? It doesn't work AT ALL.
Copy over ethernet.
Or do what I do....use a 4GB USB key.
You can use ethernet and a 4gb key to transfer files before your mac hits the OS? Amazing! Or you're yet another person that doesn't understand the advantage of target disk mode.
Nope, I didn't try this software yet but I will give it a try. I think it will be very useful since it looks simple to use yet powerful.
Also they have: Carbon Copy Cloner that is also useful. Mike Bombich has done a great job there
Thank You Very Much!
I recommend SuperDuper over CCC. CCC sometimes has problems with Permissions amongst others, though it's generally pretty good (and cheap). But SuperDuper is more reliable.
You are making the big mistake of using reason here. Apple fanboys will justify any nonsense on Apple's behalf, even if a deaf, dumb and blind person would be able to identify them as nonsense.
People list what they need FW for (all reasonable) and get all kinds of friendly condescending bullshit: Move your FW disks into a USB case, buy a bigger Mac, buy a heavier Mac, buy a more expensive Mac, buy an old Mac, use eBay, get an engineering degree and mess with the guts of the damn thing yourself, anything and then some... barely a single person with the decency, reason and attitude to even imagine others could have a reasonable need and - HE forbid - Apple might have made a mistake. Just imagine all these great lemmings would be with Scientology... measuring the brain activity of tomatoes would be more popular than baseball.
Ah, they do this in the PC world as well. You can't even get FW on most PCs.
You sure about that? On paper gigabit ethernet is faster but my experience copying large amounts of data is that they're either about the same of FW800 is faster.
Not in my experience. You can connect two Macs with an Ethernet cable (buy a CAT 5e or 6), and it works quickly.
All that I know for sure is I will not spend one bloody dime on an Apple notebook until FireWire is back on the MacBook. I'm not going to spend an extra $500 to get the MacBook Pro.
I've been a Mac user for 10 years, and for the first time ever I am considering buying a Dell.
Hey, think about it. That's the best way to get back at a vendor. Buy from someone else and tell them too bad you pissed me off! As I'll always say that if HP, Sony etc. are using the FW port then Apple should too. Hey HP makes several laptops in the sub $900 range, and maybe lower, that have FW. And as for target mode it's saved me many times. You can talk about USB and Intel, but Microsoft is one of the biggest fans of USB. I guess Apple is tying to act like them too. Hell Apple might as well bring the great Satan himself, Bill Gates on board so he and Steve can be buddy-buddy. Think back to the first 15" Macbook Pro. It only had one firewire port. It wasn't long until it was back. If everyone who's not happy will voice their opinion on Apple's website maybe they'll listen. Sometimes the best way to let them know is just don't buy their crap. Buy from their biggest competitor. As for me no second FW port on the MBP and none on the MB = I'm not buying their crap. Maybe Apple as seller has forgotten the big rule THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT! What the consumers want they SHOULD get, NOT rammed down their throat. The only way to make them learn we're not gonna take it any more is hit them in their wallets.
Its not misdirection. This argument is about transferring video over USB. I'm pointing out it is possible.
Yes transferring a digital file is not real time like running a tape. Its not real time because data transfer is much faster. But that's just an advantage of that method.
Yeah that's an advantage. However most people's argument isn't about transferring video over usb, its about transferring video over usb from devices that need realtime, something that isn't possible with usb at all. Something that tons of camcorders old and new support.
I used to tell people "you should have a bought a mac, any camcorder can work with a mac" when they showed me firewire camcorders and owned pcs that didn't have them. Now it looks like the shoe is on the other foot.
Say what you want about firewire's longevity, but now was much too soon.
Yeah, with all the "down with the old standards" going on, I want to ask - why is there still a frecking COMBO DRIVE in Mac Mini? I mean, ALL OF THE OPTICAL DRIVES HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WRITE DVD FOR YEARS! Yet they're okay with that as long as it fits Apple. But firewire - oh no, we gotta remove it quick.
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Hmm, have you looked at something like http://www.bombich.com/software/netrestore.html - just carry an Airport Extreme, hook up the machine in question to the network and install away?
Nope, I didn't try this software yet but I will give it a try. I think it will be very useful since it looks simple to use yet powerful.
Also they have: Carbon Copy Cloner that is also useful. Mike Bombich has done a great job there
Thank You Very Much!
Well, I have received an offer today with the 2GB RAM, 250 GB HD configuration for a total of 1450 USD (including 3 year international warranty) from my dealer. And, no matter how I look at it, it is tempting.
That's a special deal and not what it costs from Lenovo. A third party dealer could do the same thing with a Mac if they chose to.
How I figure it kills the MacBook? Well, the primary market for a 13" device is people wanting a small (and maybe affordable) laptop, not a workstation replacement. I do need things in a small laptop that I require outdoors or at a customer's location (like UMTS if they do not allow me on their network, the ability to capture video and photos) in the smallest package possible. Based on this requirement the MacBook fails on all accounts (almost as much as the MBA)... no UMTS (and no means to add it via ExpressCard), thanks to the iPhone lockdown no tethering there either, no ports, but a stupid optical drive I have not used in a lifetime (as it is substandard anyhow). Just a lot of weight and shiny metal for big money... a price point at which you can get fully equipped 17" workstations elsewhere (a lot uglier, I know). I love OS X and I accept a certain Apple premium, I just think that this time they went far too far. And I have a certain impression that they have lost track of their line-up as well.
You've narrowed your requirements down to some very specifics that the X200 can provide. In turn down playing the advantages of the MacBook. This is called stacking the deck.
If the X200 is a better tool for your specific needs that's fine. But that does not make it an over all better machine than the MacBook.
People too often like to throw out PC's as cheaper with better specs. When you actually look at them. The reality is they have compromised somewhere the same as Apple has had to compromise somewhere with the Mac. The idea is to find the compromise that fits your need.
Firewire in not just for camcoders. Its a must have when using external HD's with laptops !!!
valid point...
many of them also use to utilize the port (remember there are only two USB ports) lots of mac users (us) specifically look for firewire external hard drive, so use that fire wire as well
Speaking of...
What do you think the move to NVIDIA means for Apple's long-game? Attracting PC gamers seems pointless. I'm thinking that they have have high expectations of OpenCL being about to really boost the performance for their machines, but do you have a better idea?
PS: As much as I like the new machine method and the performance 'statements' of the NIVIDIA chips, I have doubts about both and will be waiting a couple months until I update my current Mac notebook. Mostly, I don't trust NVIDIA enough to jump into a new Mac right now.
I think that 10.6 has something to do with it. But if they are right, and Nvidia approched THEM, which seems likely, as Apple is the first to not only get this chip, but to have even SEEN it, then Apple might have said "Yum, we can use that".
Yeah, I don't trust Nvidia. The rumors that have been flying around is that they were getting out of the chipset business altogether. I guess not.
If they pull a cheapie fast one again like they did with the solder connections on ALL of the current chips (not these new ones), then that will be a problem.
This could attract PC game COMPANIES. Then the gamers will follow. After John Carmack, and others have been loudly complaining about the graphics performance for years, this will cut down on one of their complaints about Apple.
I think its a good move. It's been brought up that this could inspire Intel to increase their work on integrated graphics as well.
It did help to increase the price of the new Macbooks, though I think that a big component of that was the new cases.
Apple has been sued before over the fact that they would advertize new features on the OS, but older machines, or lower end machines couldn't utilize them, or they just ran damned slow.
This could also be an attempt to alleviate that problem when 10.6 does come out next year.
I thought Macs were supposed to be user-friendly. Removing Target Disk Mode de-friendly-izes them so much it makes owners obtain and use an obscure screwdriver and other geek tools.
You are making the big mistake of using reason here. Apple fanboys will justify any nonsense on Apple's behalf, even if a deaf, dumb and blind person would be able to identify them as nonsense.
People list what they need FW for (all reasonable) and get all kinds of friendly condescending bullshit: Move your FW disks into a USB case, buy a bigger Mac, buy a heavier Mac, buy a more expensive Mac, buy an old Mac, use eBay, get an engineering degree and mess with the guts of the damn thing yourself, anything and then some... barely a single person with the decency, reason and attitude to even imagine others could have a reasonable need and - HE forbid - Apple might have made a mistake. Just imagine all these great lemmings would be with Scientology... measuring the brain activity of tomatoes would be more popular than baseball.
DVCPRO HD from tape or p2? Because your unfairly skewing the argument under the assumption that the OP knows nothing of what you speak. Obviously taking dvcpro hd files through usb from a p2 reader is nothing to write home about, that isn't real time transfer the way you need for dv or hdv from tape. Your post is misdirection.
Its not misdirection. This argument is about transferring video over USB. I'm pointing out it is possible.
Yes transferring a digital file is not real time like running a tape. Its not real time because data transfer is much faster. But that's just an advantage of that method.
One can't provide confidence, but the Torx costs $4, and is available as a tip for a couple of bucks in almost any hardware store. The SATA case costs $29.95, and can be bought in a number of places.
I have to say though, that most of the time, if the disk is corrupted enough so that the machine won't boot from it or the drive won't mount, it's also too corrupted for target disk mode as well. I've tried it a number of times on people's machines, and it only worked a few times. The other times, I had to take the disk out, use equipment to do a bit by bit copy to another drive (putting the contents in a folder). Then I used software to try and extract files. Not easy, and lots of stuff gets lost forever, unless you want to spend in the high three figures, or four figures, to get it recovered.
For just transferring information, Ethernet works best, and is faster than FW 800, if you use GB Ethernet, which is pretty cheap, and common, these days.
You sure about that? On paper gigabit ethernet is faster but my experience copying large amounts of data is that they're either about the same of FW800 is faster.
Hmmm! Interesting point.
'murch, he's got you on that one.
If you work as photographer for several Vogue magazines in the world (as I did) it's the wrong color and material. And 15" is too big.
Again, some of this shock and outrage would have been molified if apple just told people to never buy firewire devices years ago and just said 'we're keeping this for legacy stuff'.
Then we'd all have known not to buy firewire 400 drives or other things.
To me, it's a bit of a slap in the face. I have a firewire 800, 400, USB external RAID backup that I use for all sorts of things. Its awesome. for kicks once, I tried using it on USB.
LOL. USB SUCKS.
I kind of wish my external raid used esata b/c it's faster than fw 800, but i figured apple wouldn't ever obsolete firewire, so i'd be ok. I even stupidly figured eventually MBs would get firewire800, so i could just keep using it.
I'd have ponied up the extra 50 or 100 bucks to get esata if i'd known they were going to stop using it.
Am I alone? Evidently not. Apple screwed the pooch and they should fix this ASAP. Preferably by adding FW800 instead of 400.
Never, ever figure that an interface standard won't be replaced. Never, ever!
Apple pioneered SCSI for mainstream computers for many years, then they dropped it like a hot potato. You want me to tell you of the problems that ensued?
I have two FW towers, now in the Attic of Old Machinery Museum I maintain upstairs.
I don't miss them. I much prefer my E-SATA.
Goodby to FW. RIP in lower priced machines.
It will live on in the pro machines for a while yet.
But, next year comes USB 3, far superior to USB 2, and even in some respects FW.
Then also next year comes Power Over SATA and E-SATA, which kills FW cold for drives.
When those two are out, Apple should take them up, as pro equipment will.
We should start seeing them on Apple's machines next year, along with Duispay Port.
It's going to be a whole new world of connectors out there, learn to love it, we will have several years before they all change again.
BTW, I've already spoken with two of my DJ/creator pals in Tokyo, and while they are both disappointed about the lack of FW in the new MacBooks, they understand the move, are not going bonkers over it, and one is already committing to buy a new MBP, and the other is contemplating snatching up the 2.4GHz black MacBook while supplies last. Really, that is the attitude some of you need.
rawhead if Apple had left the black Macbook @ $999 I probably would have but I think I detest the white plastic Macbook more than having a alu Macbook without Firewire.
Hmmm! Interesting point.
'murch, he's got you on that one.
Yeah..I realize there's no right or wrong ..it all depends on the persepective but every now and then you gotta let a little nerd rage out.
does anyone remember the audience applauding at any point during the announcements? I remember several pregnant pauses, ones i thought were built-in in anticipation of an audience response, that were met with silence. I know this wasn't a mac fanboy mwsf keynote audience, but i've seen earlier press event video and the audience showed its approval at numerous points. this time, not so much...
Yes...I kind of new this was coming when Apple moved to Intel hardware. The surprise or belief that "anything can come" was gone. Everyone who follows computing closely knows Intel's roadmap and thus we already know what Apple's going to go with. Though the nvidia transition was interesting.
Never, ever figure that an interface standard won't be replaced. Never, ever!
Apple pioneered SCSI for mainstream computers for many years, then they dropped it like a hot potato. You want me to tell you of the problems that ensued?
I don't think they will really listen to anything you've said.
The answer will come accusing you of mindlessly going along with whatever Steve Jobs tells you.
What do you mean it doesn't work RELIABLY with USB? It doesn't work AT ALL.
Copy over ethernet.
Or do what I do....use a 4GB USB key.
You can use ethernet and a 4gb key to transfer files before your mac hits the OS? Amazing! Or you're yet another person that doesn't understand the advantage of target disk mode.
Nope, I didn't try this software yet but I will give it a try. I think it will be very useful since it looks simple to use yet powerful.
Also they have: Carbon Copy Cloner that is also useful. Mike Bombich has done a great job there
Thank You Very Much!
I recommend SuperDuper over CCC. CCC sometimes has problems with Permissions amongst others, though it's generally pretty good (and cheap). But SuperDuper is more reliable.
You are making the big mistake of using reason here. Apple fanboys will justify any nonsense on Apple's behalf, even if a deaf, dumb and blind person would be able to identify them as nonsense.
People list what they need FW for (all reasonable) and get all kinds of friendly condescending bullshit: Move your FW disks into a USB case, buy a bigger Mac, buy a heavier Mac, buy a more expensive Mac, buy an old Mac, use eBay, get an engineering degree and mess with the guts of the damn thing yourself, anything and then some... barely a single person with the decency, reason and attitude to even imagine others could have a reasonable need and - HE forbid - Apple might have made a mistake. Just imagine all these great lemmings would be with Scientology... measuring the brain activity of tomatoes would be more popular than baseball.
Ah, they do this in the PC world as well. You can't even get FW on most PCs.
Used your parallel printer lately?
You sure about that? On paper gigabit ethernet is faster but my experience copying large amounts of data is that they're either about the same of FW800 is faster.
Not in my experience. You can connect two Macs with an Ethernet cable (buy a CAT 5e or 6), and it works quickly.
All that I know for sure is I will not spend one bloody dime on an Apple notebook until FireWire is back on the MacBook. I'm not going to spend an extra $500 to get the MacBook Pro.
I've been a Mac user for 10 years, and for the first time ever I am considering buying a Dell.
Hey, think about it. That's the best way to get back at a vendor. Buy from someone else and tell them too bad you pissed me off! As I'll always say that if HP, Sony etc. are using the FW port then Apple should too. Hey HP makes several laptops in the sub $900 range, and maybe lower, that have FW. And as for target mode it's saved me many times. You can talk about USB and Intel, but Microsoft is one of the biggest fans of USB. I guess Apple is tying to act like them too. Hell Apple might as well bring the great Satan himself, Bill Gates on board so he and Steve can be buddy-buddy. Think back to the first 15" Macbook Pro. It only had one firewire port. It wasn't long until it was back. If everyone who's not happy will voice their opinion on Apple's website maybe they'll listen. Sometimes the best way to let them know is just don't buy their crap. Buy from their biggest competitor. As for me no second FW port on the MBP and none on the MB = I'm not buying their crap. Maybe Apple as seller has forgotten the big rule THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT! What the consumers want they SHOULD get, NOT rammed down their throat. The only way to make them learn we're not gonna take it any more is hit them in their wallets.
Its not misdirection. This argument is about transferring video over USB. I'm pointing out it is possible.
Yes transferring a digital file is not real time like running a tape. Its not real time because data transfer is much faster. But that's just an advantage of that method.
Yeah that's an advantage. However most people's argument isn't about transferring video over usb, its about transferring video over usb from devices that need realtime, something that isn't possible with usb at all. Something that tons of camcorders old and new support.
I used to tell people "you should have a bought a mac, any camcorder can work with a mac" when they showed me firewire camcorders and owned pcs that didn't have them. Now it looks like the shoe is on the other foot.
Say what you want about firewire's longevity, but now was much too soon.
If you work as photographer for several Vogue magazines in the world (as I did) it's the wrong color and material. And 15" is too big.
Really? Welcome to the club, in the early '70's I did work for Vogue here in the states with Scavullo. Never got a cover though.
Ah, they do this in the PC world as well. You can't even get FW on most PCs.
Used your parallel printer lately?
Its used also in RIPS but those live long attached to PowerMacs or Mac Pros.