Apple contributes $100,000 to fight California's No on 8 battle

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  • Reply 921 of 1351
    In regards to this thread, I can argue against sodomy and homosexuality from both a secular and religious standpoint.

    without supernatural belief, the lust is of no biological function other than to quench animalistic lusts, in doing so it absolves the respect for each-others natural design and order, regardless of the willing submission of the other person. Love requires respect, and committing sex outside the natural method shows total abuse of the person for your own please. Even if the person submits to the abuse and sodomy, it is not a loving act, it is the use of another body in unnatural ways to fulfill perverted base desires, there have been cases of cannibals who have had their "partners" submit to them being eaten alive, this is a similarly immoral and disgusting violation regardless of both participants consent and has effects on society and weak willed minds. A general collapse of moral values and self control and the descent into utter chaos, as we can gradually see.

    From the Spiritual perspective it is obviously wrong also, a violation of our divine design and order. Our organs have a very real biological assignment and function/role which we should respect and not abuse. Life is precious and the function by which we produce new life should be valued as sacred (as even obama says). There is a clear order we should respect. Love is about respect, and if sex involves respect, then we would follow it's natural and right place and function.

    Marriage is a sacred commitment for the support and creation of new human life into the world - trying to give sodomy this sacred title is disgusting, sickening and shameful.

    God is love, and wants us to live in love with both sexes. That is the point, same sex excludes the respect of our natural and sacred design and order, for the sake of pursuing strange base lusts. Love would return our society to balance, right order, respect, decency, holiness, purity and goodness, but the lack of love and respect in the west especially now has lead to moral and social chaos and degeneration.

    We should at least try to understand this, and turn from violent and reckless lusts and ways, and return to humility, holiness, love and respect of life.
  • Reply 922 of 1351
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    Originally Posted by tonton View Post


    Isn't age supposed to bring wisdom? Evidently not if Fox News has any say.



    Marxist!?



    How can our education system and media fail so miserably?



    The above is a quote from a Communist nation. Nuf said?
  • Reply 923 of 1351
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    Originally Posted by zinfella View Post


    The above is a quote from a Communist nation. Nuf said?



    You sir, are beyond any manner of doubt the most complete fucking imbecile I've ever seen or heard of. Since you obviously know less than nothing about Marxism or its history, I would suggest you read a goddamn book just once in your life, but I know you're incapable of it. Apparently all you can read are bullet points on a Fox News screen. Just in case you're capable of deciphering what I'm writing, even if it's not accompanied by drool, Senator Obama is the last thing but a Marxist. He would, on the normal human political spectrum, be considered center-right. The Rethuglicans jumped off the extreme right end of the political spectrum years ago, into whackaloonia, they've led this country and the world into disaster, and they're going down big time!



    And oh, yeah: Prop 8 is going down, too: the (Republican) Mayor of San Diego just came out against it!
  • Reply 924 of 1351
    zoolookzoolook Posts: 657member
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    Originally Posted by 3rd Reich View Post






    This from a company who had a rainbow Apple logo in the past. With the company so close to the city of Nancy boys ( San Francisco) got to figure of them whispered the idea to Jobs when they were sharing a night of love. He is way too thin and stylish to be hetro.



    The Republik of Kalifornia is already the laughing stock of the nation leting the Nancy's marry will only add fuel to the fire. Why should a lousy 2 % of the population dictate terms to the majority?



    Ban gay marriage and execute those 4 judges who saw that we voted against this before and told us our votes do not count



    What a waste of money.



    For you Nancy boys who want gay marriage go suck a pickle



    Coming from a user whose Pseudonym is '3rd Reich', you're not going to win a lot of converts.



    Incidentally, It'd be great if all the right-wing idiots just took their states and formed their own country, and let the 'liberal' states do the same.



    In case you aren't aware, that includes Hawaii , California , Oregon , Washington , Minnesota , Wisconsin , Michigan , Illinois , New York , and all of the Northeastern states. After this election, it might include Colorado and New Mexico . This split would be beneficial to the nation, especially to the people of the new Liberal America (or Amerika as you might say).



    To sum up briefly: You get Texas , Oklahoma and all the slave states; the liberals get stem cell research, the best beaches, and the best ski resorts. They also get the Statue of Liberty; you get Dollywood, they get Intel and Microsoft; you get WorldCom. They get Stanford, Harvard, Princeton, Yale , Cal Tech, MIT and Columbia ; you get Ole' Miss. The liberals get 85 percent of America 's venture capital and entrepreneurs; you get Alabama . The "nancy's" get two-thirds of the tax revenue; you get to pay your fair share for one.



    Since the liberal state's aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than that of the Christian Coalition, they get a bunch of happy families and you get a bunch of under-educated single moms. And of course, homosexual couples seem to stay together longer than hetrosexual one's too.



    The 'nancy' States will control 80 percent of the country's fresh water, 90 percent of pineapple and lettuce, 92 percent of the nation's fresh fruit, 97 percent of America's quality wines (you can serve French wines at your state dinners), 90 percent of all cheese, 90 percent of the high tech industry, most of the U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, and all the Ivy League and Seven Sister schools. Plus New England, the Great Lakes and Yosemite , thank you very much.



    In the Red States, you will have to cope with 88 percent of all obese Americans and their projected health care costs, 92 percent of all U.S. mosquitoes, 100 percent of tornadoes, 94 percent of hurricanes, 99 percent of Southern Baptists, virtually 100 percent of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University , and Clemson and idiots who believe in the 3rd Reich.



    Additionally, in the Red States, 38 percent actually believe Jonah was swallowed by a whale; 62 percent believe life is sacred unless it involves the death penalty or gun ownership; 44 percent claim that evolution is only a theory; 53 percent insist that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11; and 61 percent of you crazy bastards believe you have higher moral standards than those of us on the left.



    By the way, we're taking all the good pot, too. You get that dirt weed from Mexico and Kansas ditches.
  • Reply 925 of 1351
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    Originally Posted by Mac-sochist View Post


    You sir, are beyond any manner of doubt the most complete fucking imbecile I've ever seen or heard of. Since you obviously know less than nothing about Marxism or its history, I would suggest you read a goddamn book just once in your life, but I know you're incapable of it. Apparently all you can read are bullet points on a Fox News screen. Just in case you're capable of deciphering what I'm writing, even if it's not accompanied by drool, Senator Obama is the last thing but a Marxist. He would, on the normal human political spectrum, be considered center-right. The Rethuglicans jumped off the extreme right end of the political spectrum years ago, into whackaloonia, they've led this country and the world into disaster, and they're going down big time!



    And oh, yeah: Prop 8 is going down, too: the (Republican) Mayor of San Diego just came out against it!



    You can't even contain yourself, you have to throw insults, what a moron you are. Obama has let it slip that he want so "spread the wealth", a Marxist/socialist idea, straight out of Karl Marx, the author of the Communist Manefesto. He has said that he wants to remake the Supreme Court because they have done nothing to facilitate taking from one segment of society and giving it to others. He has said:



    ?We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we?ve set,? he said Wednesday. ?We?ve got to have a civilian national security force that?s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.?



    That is a violation of the federal Posse Comitatus act. He wants to kill capitalism and replace it with socialism. All of his ideas have ben tried over and again, around the World, and they have NEVER worked, not even once.



    He has socialist and communist friends, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, etc, and he also said that he hung out with socialist professors while in college. He worked on legislation in Illinois with Ayers to go soft on criminals.



    The majority of this country IS center-right, which is why McGovern, Gore, and Kerry didn't make it.



    I damn well know what a Marxist is, I've been around a very long time.
  • Reply 926 of 1351
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Zoolook View Post


    Coming from a user whose Pseudonym is '3rd Reich', you're not going to win a lot of converts.



    Incidentally, It'd be great if all the right-wing idiots just took their states and formed their own country, and let the 'liberal' states do the same.



    In case you aren't aware, that includes Hawaii , California , Oregon , Washington , Minnesota , Wisconsin , Michigan , Illinois , New York , and all of the Northeastern states. After this election, it might include Colorado and New Mexico . This split would be beneficial to the nation, especially to the people of the new Liberal America (or Amerika as you might say).



    To sum up briefly: You get Texas , Oklahoma and all the slave states; the liberals get stem cell research, the best beaches, and the best ski resorts. They also get the Statue of Liberty; you get Dollywood, they get Intel and Microsoft; you get WorldCom. They get Stanford, Harvard, Princeton, Yale , Cal Tech, MIT and Columbia ; you get Ole' Miss. The liberals get 85 percent of America 's venture capital and entrepreneurs; you get Alabama . The "nancy's" get two-thirds of the tax revenue; you get to pay your fair share for one.



    Since the liberal state's aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than that of the Christian Coalition, they get a bunch of happy families and you get a bunch of under-educated single moms. And of course, homosexual couples seem to stay together longer than hetrosexual one's too.



    The 'nancy' States will control 80 percent of the country's fresh water, 90 percent of pineapple and lettuce, 92 percent of the nation's fresh fruit, 97 percent of America's quality wines (you can serve French wines at your state dinners), 90 percent of all cheese, 90 percent of the high tech industry, most of the U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, and all the Ivy League and Seven Sister schools. Plus New England, the Great Lakes and Yosemite , thank you very much.



    In the Red States, you will have to cope with 88 percent of all obese Americans and their projected health care costs, 92 percent of all U.S. mosquitoes, 100 percent of tornadoes, 94 percent of hurricanes, 99 percent of Southern Baptists, virtually 100 percent of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University , and Clemson and idiots who believe in the 3rd Reich.



    Additionally, in the Red States, 38 percent actually believe Jonah was swallowed by a whale; 62 percent believe life is sacred unless it involves the death penalty or gun ownership; 44 percent claim that evolution is only a theory; 53 percent insist that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11; and 61 percent of you crazy bastards believe you have higher moral standards than those of us on the left.



    By the way, we're taking all the good pot, too. You get that dirt weed from Mexico and Kansas ditches.



    Best... Post... EVER!!!!!
  • Reply 927 of 1351
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Zoolook View Post


    Coming from a user whose Pseudonym is '3rd Reich', you're not going to win a lot of converts.



    Incidentally, It'd be great if all the right-wing idiots just took their states and formed their own country, and let the 'liberal' states do the same.



    In case you aren't aware, that includes Hawaii , California , Oregon , Washington , Minnesota , Wisconsin , Michigan , Illinois , New York , and all of the Northeastern states. After this election, it might include Colorado and New Mexico . This split would be beneficial to the nation, especially to the people of the new Liberal America (or Amerika as you might say).



    To sum up briefly: You get Texas , Oklahoma and all the slave states; the liberals get stem cell research, the best beaches, and the best ski resorts. They also get the Statue of Liberty; you get Dollywood, they get Intel and Microsoft; you get WorldCom. They get Stanford, Harvard, Princeton, Yale , Cal Tech, MIT and Columbia ; you get Ole' Miss. The liberals get 85 percent of America 's venture capital and entrepreneurs; you get Alabama . The "nancy's" get two-thirds of the tax revenue; you get to pay your fair share for one.



    Since the liberal state's aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than that of the Christian Coalition, they get a bunch of happy families and you get a bunch of under-educated single moms. And of course, homosexual couples seem to stay together longer than hetrosexual one's too.



    The 'nancy' States will control 80 percent of the country's fresh water, 90 percent of pineapple and lettuce, 92 percent of the nation's fresh fruit, 97 percent of America's quality wines (you can serve French wines at your state dinners), 90 percent of all cheese, 90 percent of the high tech industry, most of the U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, and all the Ivy League and Seven Sister schools. Plus New England, the Great Lakes and Yosemite , thank you very much.



    In the Red States, you will have to cope with 88 percent of all obese Americans and their projected health care costs, 92 percent of all U.S. mosquitoes, 100 percent of tornadoes, 94 percent of hurricanes, 99 percent of Southern Baptists, virtually 100 percent of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University , and Clemson and idiots who believe in the 3rd Reich.



    Additionally, in the Red States, 38 percent actually believe Jonah was swallowed by a whale; 62 percent believe life is sacred unless it involves the death penalty or gun ownership; 44 percent claim that evolution is only a theory; 53 percent insist that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11; and 61 percent of you crazy bastards believe you have higher moral standards than those of us on the left.



    By the way, we're taking all the good pot, too. You get that dirt weed from Mexico and Kansas ditches.



    Exactly what I would expect from a drug infested Liberal, nonsense.
  • Reply 928 of 1351
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    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    Best... Post... EVER!!!!!



    You have very low standards.
  • Reply 929 of 1351
    Time for more rewarding activities. It was fun, until you guys started getting nasty. That includes you, Solipism.
  • Reply 930 of 1351
    zoolookzoolook Posts: 657member
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    Originally Posted by zinfella View Post


    Exactly what I would expect from a drug infested Liberal, nonsense.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by zinfella View Post


    You have very low standards.



    Actually, everything there happens to be true. It particularly makes me laugh when your political compatriots go on about 'socialism' and the 'redistribution of wealth', when in fact for the last 50 or 60 years (longer in fact), the 'liberals' have been bailing out the Red States to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars. Farming subsidies, tax breaks for sweatshop call centers, disproportionate investment in rural schools and towns... spreading the wealth around for the last 60 years, has meant hardworking "drug infested liberals" have been sending, what amounts to aid to the conservative states. In fact, if you took the top 10 most right wing states and put them together, it'd be a third world country, and yet they seem to set the political agenda. Well, hopefully, that's about to change.





    It'll irk you to read that and you won't agree, but if you do just a teeny-weeny bit of research, you'll find it's all too true.
  • Reply 931 of 1351
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    Originally Posted by zinfella View Post


    You can't even contain yourself, you have to throw insults, what a moron you are. Obama has let it slip that he want so "spread the wealth", a Marxist/socialist idea, straight out of Karl Marx, the author of the Communist Manefesto. He has said that he wants to remake the Supreme Court because they have done nothing to facilitate taking from one segment of society and giving it to others. He has said:



    “We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set,” he said Wednesday. “We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.”



    That is a violation of the federal Posse Comitatus act. He wants to kill capitalism and replace it with socialism. All of his ideas have ben tried over and again, around the World, and they have NEVER worked, not even once.



    He has socialist and communist friends, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, etc, and he also said that he hung out with socialist professors while in college. He worked on legislation in Illinois with Ayers to go soft on criminals.



    The majority of this country IS center-right, which is why McGovern, Gore, and Kerry didn't make it.



    I damn well know what a Marxist is, I've been around a very long time.



    Your taking his statement out of it's context, and superimposing over another to fit your agenda, though it's really just parroting Fox News' Liza Lott. If you want to redefine everything, then paying any taxes whatsoever IS a redistribution of wealth, but do think that taxes shouldn't be paid by anyone? How will the federal, state and local gov'ts function? A bake sale? A car wash? A raffle? (actually most states have that last one, but we call it a lottery)



    Their is nothing socialist or communist about the Democrat party. They just don't feel that the trickle down method is effective. In fact, I implore you to show me evidence of how the trickle method of giving the rich breaks has ever helped the lower classes.



    PS: Calling someone a moron in same sentence that you pooh-pooh someone for calling you names is ironic and/or hypocritical.
  • Reply 932 of 1351
    To the frightened zinfella-LOL You are so uninformed it's hillarious.You don't know anything but right-wing slogans that are based on scare tactics not facts.I would love to see your expression as your informed about what your yelling about! He He! National Guard militia gonna round you up,Sir!
  • Reply 933 of 1351
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    Originally Posted by zinfella View Post


    Time for more rewarding activities. It was fun, until you guys started getting nasty. That includes you, Solipism.



    Thank you for including me.
  • Reply 934 of 1351
    zoolookzoolook Posts: 657member
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    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    Thank you for including me.



    Lucky you... I got left out!
  • Reply 935 of 1351
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    Originally Posted by Zoolook View Post


    Lucky you... I got left out!



    Don't fret, he called you a "drug infested Liberal".
  • Reply 936 of 1351
    zoolookzoolook Posts: 657member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    Don't fret, he called you a "drug infested Liberal".



    Oh, was that supposed to be an insult?
  • Reply 937 of 1351
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    Originally Posted by zinfella View Post


    The above is a quote from a Communist nation. Nuf said?



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    How can anyone be so uneducated and uninformed?



    You might want to check on Hong Kong's world ranking in terms of free market capitalism.



    Here. I'm sure you won't click the link, as you are obviously uninformed by choice.



    Quote:

    Hong Kong's economy is 90.3 percent free, according to our 2008 assessment, which makes it the world's freest economy. Its overall score is 0.3 percentage point lower than last year, mainly reflecting a lower monetary freedom score. Hong Kong is ranked 1st out of 30 countries in the Asia?Pacific region, and its overall score is well above the regional average.



    You sir, have proved, beyond any doubt whatsoever, your complete and utter ignorance.



    Oh, and I am an American citizen, who has cast his vote for Obama.



    I'm also a Californian, but unfortunately, not having been a California resident for six out of the last 12 months, I cannot vote for state measures. Nevertheless, six of my family members and dozens of friends are all voting NO on Prop. 8. None of my friends are in support of this discriminatory measure.
  • Reply 938 of 1351
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    Originally Posted by zinfella View Post


    You have very low standards.



    Worst...Post...Ever!!!!
  • Reply 939 of 1351
    paxmanpaxman Posts: 4,729member
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    Originally Posted by Zoolook View Post


    In the Red States, you will have to cope with 88 percent of all obese Americans and their projected health care costs, 92 percent of all U.S. mosquitoes, 100 percent of tornadoes, 94 percent of hurricanes, 99 percent of Southern Baptists, virtually 100 percent of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University , and Clemson and idiots who believe in the 3rd Reich.



    Additionally, in the Red States, 38 percent actually believe Jonah was swallowed by a whale; 62 percent believe life is sacred unless it involves the death penalty or gun ownership; 44 percent claim that evolution is only a theory; 53 percent insist that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11; and 61 percent of you crazy bastards believe you have higher moral standards than those of us on the left.



    By the way, we're taking all the good pot, too. You get that dirt weed from Mexico and Kansas ditches.



    The above and the rest of your post - ! I wonder where zinfella, the bitter old man, lives. Other than in his delusionary fantasy world, I mean.
  • Reply 940 of 1351
    paxmanpaxman Posts: 4,729member
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    Originally Posted by zinfella View Post


    Time for more rewarding activities. It was fun, until you guys started getting nasty. That includes you, Solipism.



    He's hurt, now. After dishing it out in the rudest most dismissive terms himself, he's gone into a sulk. Poor zinfella.
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