Apple contributes $100,000 to fight California's No on 8 battle

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    In addition to Apple's donation being in vain, they've also angered a lot of people. Obviously this applies to google as well. I for one am overjoyed that Prop. 8 passed. Marriage is between a man and a woman only. It is both a lie and a perversion to advocate marriage between the same sex. You can label me a bigot all you want but two people of the same sex cannot have a child together. A family can only come from the union of a man and woman.



    It's a sick and backwards society that condones and accommodates a perverted lifestyle like homosexuality, child molestation, pornography and sex before marriage.



    Aww, come on! We had just moved on!!! Now we're going to get pulled back on subject - d2mn!
  • Reply 1022 of 1351
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    There are some rules they are bound to if they wish to get a tax break as private schools with racially discriminatory admissions policies are not entitled to federal tax exemption per the IRS. This tax exemption was dropped from BJU in 1970. They tried to fight it and failed, but have since allowed blacks into their schools and as of 2005 allow interracial dating, but have no refilled for the exemption despite the likelihood of it being reinstated.



    You made my point for me - it's only racism if it exempts the minorities. Nobody gives a d2mn if it exempts the majority which is, still, by definition, racism.
  • Reply 1023 of 1351
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    But Zin says they all accept federal funds so, moot.



    He may be correct on that as I have no way to verify it. But the reason I was clarifying that it was any government funding, not just Federal, is because if it were just Federal there would have been many schools that would have rejected such funding in favour of only local/county/state so they could maintain their supremacist agenda.
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    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    You made my point for me - it's only racism if it exempts the minorities. Nobody gives a d2mn if it exempts the majority which is, still, by definition, racism.



    Huh? That isn't true. The KKK excludes all non-whites and whites who feel non-whites should have equal rights. That makes the KKK the minority, yet they are racist.
  • Reply 1025 of 1351
    tenobelltenobell Posts: 7,014member
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    You made my point for me - it's only racism if it exempts the minorities. Nobody gives a d2mn if it exempts the majority which is, still, by definition, racism.



    No, racism is defined by social and institutional power of one group over another group. The minority does not hold power over the majority.
  • Reply 1026 of 1351
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    Huh? That isn't true. The KKK excludes all non-whites and whites who feel non-whites should have equal rights. That makes the KKK the minority, yet they are racist.



    Nooo - the KKK is white so, therefore, majority and they are excluding ANYONE of color so, racist. There's plenty of organizations founded by minorities for minorities that don't explicitally prohibit whites but make sure they aren't at all welcome or encouraged and that's considered ok... It's a double standard...
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    tenobelltenobell Posts: 7,014member
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    Huh? That isn't true. The KKK excludes all non-whites and whites who feel non-whites should have equal rights. That makes the KKK the minority, yet they are racist.



    I would say what made the KKK racist is that they held power in their community over people they did not like. They were able to harass, torture, and kill free from punishment because they held the power structure in their community.



    Other than that its just prejudice and bigotry.
  • Reply 1028 of 1351
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    No, racism is defined by social and institutional power of one group over another group. The minority does not hold power over the majority.



    I said by definition not what the socially acceptable definition is.

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism
  • Reply 1029 of 1351
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    A family can only come from the union of a man and woman.



    So you define a family as ONLY being between the genetic offspring? So kids should never be adopted? How about infertile individuals? Should they not be allowed to get married because they can't produce offspring? How exactly do you recommend that eliminate all the orphans and sterile human abominations?
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    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    Nooo - the KKK is white so, therefore, majority and they are excluding ANYONE of color so, racist. There's plenty of organizations founded by minorities for minorities that don't explicitally prohibit whites but make sure they aren't at all welcome or encouraged and that's considered ok... It's a double standard...



    Okay, the Black Panthers. Racism is not a one way street. Racism is a prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on such a belief.
  • Reply 1031 of 1351
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    Okay, the Black Panthers. Racism is not a one way street. Racism is a prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on such a belief.



    Exactly my point...
  • Reply 1032 of 1351
    tenobelltenobell Posts: 7,014member
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    I said by definition not what the socially acceptable definition is.

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism



    Each dictionary defines it a bit differently. But originally racism is a macro concept of one groups power and control over another group. Generally based ethnic and cultural differences.
  • Reply 1033 of 1351
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    He may be correct on that as I have no way to verify it. But the reason I was clarifying that it was any government funding, not just Federal, is because if it were just Federal there would have been many schools that would have rejected such funding in favour of only local/county/state so they could maintain their supremacist agenda.



    That's right, I just used federally funded money instead of public funded money, but it's all the same pot in the end, since no public school is going to turn down federal funds. States are always looking for more federal money for education, and they would have to fund the federal portion if a school turned it down. The state isn't going to let that happen. But, that leaves private schools that do not accept public funds to do as they please.
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    tenobelltenobell Posts: 7,014member
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    Okay, the Black Panthers. Racism is not a one way street. Racism is a prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on such a belief.



    That's not really what racism is.



    Here is the United Nations definition of racial discrimination, which is the more traditional definition.



    The term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life.
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    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    That's right, I just used federally funded money instead of public funded money, but it's all the same pot in the end, since no public school is going to turn down federal funds. But, that leaves private schools that do not accept public funds to do as they please.



    It's the same pot if your crackpot. There are clear reasons why the 14th covers more than just Federal funding, which I have already stated twice. To have not stated that way would have allowed a loophole which wold have perpetuated segregation. Not seeing the difference does not mean their isn't one.
  • Reply 1036 of 1351
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    Each dictionary defines it a bit differently. But originally racism is a macro concept of one groups power and control over another group. Generally based ethnic and cultural differences.



    That's the social definition not the text book definition. Social definition are, by their nature, adjusted to reflect social situations. I'm talking about the word, not what society has to come to equate it with. Racism - as sol' said - is blind to race. Any race can be racist against any other race and it hasn't a single thing to do with how many or who is in charge. Saying it can only be done by the majority oppressing the minority is nothing but a cop-out and does nothing but to perpetuate racism for generations to come.



    EDIT: The UN doesn't define words - they politicize them... Find a real dictionary not some socio-political junk.
  • Reply 1037 of 1351
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    Nooo - the KKK is white so, therefore, majority and they are excluding ANYONE of color so, racist. There's plenty of organizations founded by minorities for minorities that don't explicitally prohibit whites but make sure they aren't at all welcome or encouraged and that's considered ok... It's a double standard...



    The Congressional Black Caucus
  • Reply 1038 of 1351
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    That's not really what racism is.



    Here is the United Nations definition of racial discrimination, which is the more traditional definition.



    The term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life.



    I like the UN defintion better, but I see the I posted from the OED as being the same, thought not nearly as complete or as well presented.
  • Reply 1039 of 1351
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    So you define a family as ONLY being between the genetic offspring? So kids should never be adopted? How about infertile individuals? Should they not be allowed to get married because they can't produce offspring? How exactly do you recommend that eliminate all the orphans and sterile human abominations?





    Gays cannot adopt in Arkansas.
  • Reply 1040 of 1351
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    EDIT: The UN doesn't define words - they politicize them... Find a real dictionary not some socio-political junk.



    I'd agree with that, but I do like the UN definition.
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