Apple authorizes MMS on the iPhone, but not for US users

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  • Reply 41 of 110
    mjtomlinmjtomlin Posts: 1,876member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BlackSummerNight View Post


    Now the tethering plans is where they really rape people.



    Yeah, no doubt. And that is my original point, if all they are really interested in is making money, then tethering would have been an option from the get go. So I still say they were a bit concerned about network congestion.
  • Reply 42 of 110
    paxmanpaxman Posts: 4,603member
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    Originally Posted by Enigmafan420 View Post


    Nope-you are never going to convince me-I am a College Grad-there is a reason phone calls (and text messages) are not appropriate in class-NOTHING is that important.



    I am not sure I would use it much even if it was FREE-to me it is no less rude when someone in a restaurant or movie theatre is typing away on their cell phones than it is to carry on a full blown conversation.



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5VQQ...eature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KaDCB1wSeQ



    ;-)
  • Reply 43 of 110
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mjtomlin View Post


    The iPhone is perfectly capable of MMS texting, just as it is perfectly capable of tethering. The fact of the matter is, AT&T doesn't have a plan that allows either of these on the iPhone. (Although, AT&T is supposed to release a tethering plan soon, if it hasn't already.) That was probably a decision both Apple and AT&T made to try and make sure the options that were available worked without issue. The iPhone was and still is in its infancy (well an 800lb. infant gorilla anyway). It will continue to mature and hopefully features and options will be added.



    This issue has come up before and more than likely it relates to bandwidth issues and network congestion. With mobile Safari being able to render normal web pages, they were afraid of users wreaking havoc on the cell network, which if you all remember actually happened after all those shiny new iPhone 3Gs were sold in such a short amount of time. Add on top of that MMS texting and bandwidth hogging phone tethering and you're left with a fried network.



    I believe once AT&T gets the network up to speed to support all this data coming from all the iPhone users (and other 3G users) in the US, they will begin to offer more of the same options as other phones. Of course the monthly rates will go up and more people will whine about it, but at least the options will be there.



    For those of you quick to blame Apple, if this 3rd party developer and mobile provider in Sweden can offer up MMS without needing Apple's assistance (only blessing), why hasn't AT&T in the US?



    That makes sense, Scandinavian countries in general have a much more capable wireless network than the U.S. According to one previous poster they can even use the same 3G network on their computers without paying additional fees.
  • Reply 44 of 110


    OUCH!



    Those were funny-and make my point :O
  • Reply 45 of 110
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    Originally Posted by paxman View Post


    Sure, I agree. Hard to avoid though. I pay for the privilege of having voicemail - included in an option package. But I can only receive 3 messages. To be able to hold more I need to upgrade my extras package. When I asked what exactly they needed 10 extra dollars for, the sales guy gave me a load of vapor and finally came up with 'storage'. I told him I get several gb's from google for zero so why should I pay $10 per month to store max 10 paltry voice messages. He shrugged (what else could he do?) and I didn't pay. Two years and many frustrations with 'your mailbox is full', later - I am still pissed. My plan is up in Jan so guess what will be under the tree for me? Yup, a lovely new phone, a new plan and a whole new bunch of services that'll make me go to sleep at night grinding my teeth.



    Can't believe you only get THREE messages stored. BRUTAL-What carrier is that?
  • Reply 46 of 110
    I don't see why the people who say "JUST USE EMAIL" don't want this. Let those of us who want to use MMS use it, and you keep using email.....sheesh.
  • Reply 47 of 110
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    Originally Posted by BlackSummerNight View Post


    I don't see why the people who say "JUST USE EMAIL" don't want this. Let those of us who want to use MMS use it, and you keep using email.....sheesh.



    I just DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR IT-$30/month for data should be all inclusive.



    And when I had it w/T-Mobile, I used maybe 10 messages per month, so no, an addition $30 (for my family plan) isn't worth it!
  • Reply 48 of 110
    On ATT, MMS/SMS are treated the same, as far as plans goes. If you have a SMS plan, then MMS are included. It's like that for all their phone that can do MMS and SMS.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Enigmafan420 View Post


    I just DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR IT-$30/month for data should be all inclusive.



    And when I had it w/T-Mobile, I used maybe 10 messages per month, so no, an addition $30 (for my family plan) isn't worth it!



  • Reply 49 of 110
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BlackSummerNight View Post


    On ATT, MMS/SMS are treated the same, as far as plans goes. If you have a SMS plan, then MMS are included. It's like that for all their phone that can do MMS and SMS.



    Yeah I know-but NONE are included-at least with the 2G you got 200 message, now you get ZERO (for $10/month more)
  • Reply 50 of 110
    So you don't want the extra charge for SMS or MMS. You are right, with the 3G, you have to pay extra for SMS. But for those who would like it, they already have a txt plan.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Enigmafan420 View Post


    Yeah I know-but NONE are included-at least with the 2G you got 200 message, no you get ZERO (for $10/month more)



    You're better off with no txt plan if you only get about 10 a month. It's only one buck.
  • Reply 51 of 110
    lafelafe Posts: 252member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Stormchild View Post


    Honestly, why does SMS even exist? The implementation is so terrible in every possible way.



    I can explain why it exists . . .



    If people pay for it, it will exist, no matter how sucky or unfair it is.



    The main reason (in the US at least) is simply: teenagers. They use it like crazy,

    so their parents pay for it. They can text in areas where phone

    use is not normally allowed (movie theatre, church, school, etc.) and send

    their friends thousands of questions about who likes whom, who talked

    to whom about whom, who said what about whom, and so on.



    I speak from experience, as my daughter sends and receives about

    8000 SMS messages per month.



    The scary thing about this phenomenon is that it is allowing young people

    to communicate without speaking, which I find very weird. My daughter will

    actually sit in the same room or vehicle with a friend, and they will text each

    other incessantly, even though they are close enough that a word (or a

    whisper if it's a secret) would work just fine.
  • Reply 52 of 110
    So why not get rid of email and IM too?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lafe View Post


    I can explain why it exists . . .



    If people pay for it, it will exist, no matter how sucky or unfair it is.



    The main reason (in the US at least) is simply: teenagers. They use it like crazy,

    so their parents pay for it. They can text in areas where phone

    use is not normally allowed (movie theatre, church, school, etc.) and send

    their friends thousands of questions about who likes whom, who talked

    to whom about whom, who said what about whom, and so on.



    I speak from experience, as my daughter sends and receives about

    8000 SMS messages per month.



    The scary thing about this phenomenon is that it is allowing young people

    to communicate without speaking, which I find very weird. My daughter will

    actually sit in the same room or vehicle with a friend, and they will text each

    other incessantly, even though they are close enough that a word (or a

    whisper if it's a secret) would work just fine.



  • Reply 53 of 110
    I understand there are ways to get around this but it should just be there.



    2 of my friends just switched to ATT and didn't get the iPhone because of this, it is one of those features that they wanted.
  • Reply 54 of 110
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BlackSummerNight View Post


    So you don't want the extra charge for SMS or MMS. You are right, with the 3G, you have to pay extra for SMS. But for those who would like it, they already have a txt plan.



    You're better off with no txt plan if you only get about 10 a month. It's only one buck.



    Actually 10 a month would be $2, they are now 20 cents (!) each.



    So I just have text completely turned off and pay nothing-and I don't get any SPAM from AT$T either
  • Reply 55 of 110
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    Originally Posted by genericposts View Post


    What backwards phones are you talking about. Phones had email (at least phones in Europe and the rest of the forward thinking cellular world) before there was MMS.



    Talking about the US. Also, btw, much of Asian markets (and even European markets) do a TON of MMS.
  • Reply 56 of 110
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mjtomlin View Post


    So as I stated in my last post... If this 3rd party developer and mobile provider in Sweden can offer up MMS without needing Apple's assistance (only blessing), why hasn't AT&T in the US?



    Another point... Isn't phone tethering another lucrative option? Why doesn't AT&T offer that? Is Apple standing in the way of that as well? It's AT&Ts end user agreement that forbids tethering.



    So the argument of revenue stream doesn't hold up, because AT&T could stand to make a lot more money off of iPhone tethering plans.



    Why hasn't AT&T come out with a minutes tracking app?



    They could, and as far as I know there's nothing in the SDK that wouldn't allow them to do this.



    I still hold that this is more Apple than AT&T.
  • Reply 57 of 110
    Fuck em, buy a black berry.
  • Reply 58 of 110
    tenobelltenobell Posts: 7,014member
    Far more emails are sent world wide than SMS/MMS. Smartphones are the fastest growing segment of mobile phones and generally they all now come with email clients.



    If MMS was something so critically needed the iPhone would not sell as well as it has without it.
  • Reply 59 of 110
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    Originally Posted by bloggerblog View Post


    Then why was tethering pulled from the app store? Many of AT&T's current phones support tethering, why was the iPhone singled-out?

    Maybe this image will help:





    Because tethering for AT&T is another revenue stream, NetShare wasn't created with this in mind. However, the short answer to this is that AT&T and Apple are going to have tethering for the iPhone. AT&T has even SAID that it's coming. It's just a matter of time.



    Again, I guarantee that the lack of MMS is not b/c of AT&T, but b/c of Apple.
  • Reply 60 of 110
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post


    Far more emails are sent world wide than SMS/MMS. Smartphones are the fastest growing segment of mobile phones and generally they all now come with email clients.



    If MMS was something so critically needed the iPhone would not sell as well as it has without it.



    And your numbers come from... where? Does it factor out Desktop emails, Notebook emails, PDA emails?



    Beyond smartphone users (which comprise of a very small percentage of the overall U.S. wireless cellular market), how many of your friends TRULY use email on their handsets? i'm betting it's about ZERO.



    w00master
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