Re: multitouch: I think Apple has specific patents on capacitive multitouch, there are other forms of it, one involves reading the internal reflection of the glass panel with an array of sensors. I think Microsoft's surface uses an infrared light and camera to see where objects are touching the table.
Apple doesn't have any patents that would stop other capacitive touchscreen phones coming out. You bet that Samsung are working on a sequal to the Omnia with multitouch.
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As is customary with most Nokia phone introductions, the N97 lacks support for AT&T's 3G network.
It supports HSDPA on 900/1900/2100Mhz. Doesn't that cover AT&T?
Personally, I'm looking forward to the N97. The iPhone has too many limitations to satisfy a nerd like me - especially as I've got an iPod touch anyway. I've currently got a Nokia N95 8GB and I'm very happy with it, apart from the lack of a keyboard.
Folks, we know Apple is listening, they're not re-acting as fast as we'd like, but they are listening.
All this does, is help Apple to decide what features they NEED to come out with. If we all complain enough about features we'd like, and the competition comes out with them, then Apple will give much more serious look at these features.
Apple will get beat to many "cool" features for phones, it's whether or not, these features really matter to folks.
Some features are ? wants, while some features / requests are needs. I believe Apple looks at all of these and decides which is the most important at the time and makes them part of the new iPhone.
If Apple came out with a phone that did EVERYTHING we wanted it to do, WE'D want more with the next new model, because after all, it doesn't do this ? what ever to hell "this" is.
This is good for us and for Apple, so sit back and enjoy the ride, I promise you'll be glad you did.
In case you haven't noticed, Apple stock is a GREAT buy!
The gentleman who criticize this subject being brought up are not history scholars obviously. I recall lectures at University in the history of art department referencing the volume of 'oil on canvas' being heavily influenced over the centuries by such matters too. Don't forget to add in the development of the camera, the development of film, the development of moving pictures ... all had massive uptake due to, shall we say, 'visual art'. The VHS tape deck's success over the superior rival is attributed to the same thing as it was far cheaper and quality wasn't the main concern for 'those uses'.
Apple should not do anything to encourage porn openly, but speaking as a share holder, Apple should not do anything to prevent whatever use an owner wishes in this area. I totally agree with you, history shows if some iPhone knock off makes porn usage very simple it may do a 'VHS over Beta' repeat.
Thank you, finally someone with a grip on reality.
Porn has been a major drive in technology, if people choose to blinker themselves from that fact then so be it, but spare me the insults.
I was involved in early web porn developments, the servers we used were some of the fastest on the planet, with hundreds of thousands of daily visitors drawing high bandwidth content, it had to be. No other industry came close to the technological demands we had, or had the money sloshing around to drive technology forward.
During that time 90% of search terms were for sex, and not only was it popular, it was VERY VERY profitable, even video conferencing as a technology was pushed forward by sex, and many of todays popular web apps (such as digg and facebook)have concepts that were born from porn some 15 years ago, like it or not, believe me or not.
Thank you, finally someone with a grip on reality.
Porn has been a major drive in technology, if people choose to blinker themselves from that fact then so be it, but spare me the insults.
I was involved in early web porn developments, the servers we used were some of the fastest on the planet, with hundreds of thousands of daily visitors drawing high bandwidth content, it had to be. No other industry came close to the technological demands we had, or had the money sloshing around to drive technology forward.
During that time 90% of search terms were for sex, and not only was it popular, it was VERY VERY profitable, even video conferencing as a technology was pushed forward by sex, and many of todays popular web apps (such as digg and facebook)have concepts that were born from porn some 15 years ago, like it or not, believe me or not.
You are right on point with your post. When 3G came out, we joked that it stood for: Girl, Games, Gaming. It seems that the gaming missed the mark, games are floundering but girls are alive and kicking.
Thank you, finally someone with a grip on reality.
Porn has been a major drive in technology, if people choose to blinker themselves from that fact then so be it, but spare me the insults.
I was involved in early web porn developments, the servers we used were some of the fastest on the planet, with hundreds of thousands of daily visitors drawing high bandwidth content, it had to be. No other industry came close to the technological demands we had, or had the money sloshing around to drive technology forward.
During that time 90% of search terms were for sex, and not only was it popular, it was VERY VERY profitable, even video conferencing as a technology was pushed forward by sex, and many of todays popular web apps (such as digg and facebook)have concepts that were born from porn some 15 years ago, like it or not, believe me or not.
Yes, I did register just to reply to your comments. Many folks here (most?) probably want Apple news. We don't need some creepy forum poster dying to bring up masturbation and porn. Go somewhere else. I don't intend to speak for the rest of the posters here, but is there nowhere we can go without some perv bringing up porn?
Great. Porn makes money. So does crack and prostitution. Porn has corrupted the world, is morally wrong, and endangers my children. I haven't been reading AppleInsider too long, but if people like you are the makeup of this board, I may have misjudged the site.
Jumping off of my soapbox, you are creepy. The fact that you feel the need to equate porn with success is truly what is sad.
Yes, I did register just to reply to your comments. Many folks here (most?) probably want Apple news. We don't need some creepy forum poster dying to bring up masturbation and porn. Go somewhere else. I don't intend to speak for the rest of the posters here, but is there nowhere we can go without some perv bringing up porn?
Great. Porn makes money. So does crack and prostitution. Porn has corrupted the world, is morally wrong, and endangers my children. I haven't been reading AppleInsider too long, but if people like you are the makeup of this board, I may have misjudged the site.
Jumping off of my soapbox, you are creepy. The fact that you feel the need to equate porn with success is truly what is sad.
Not everyone who looks at porn is"creepy" or "immoral" or "perverted" or"endangers children" or whatever other nonsense you just said. If you are uncomfortable with the human form I'm sorry to say but you are the odd one out.
Porn is a relevant topic, I 'was' having a sensible discussion as to the potential affects porn may have on the adoption of the iphone until you randomly accused me of being "an idiot" for mentioning sex.
I dont believe I have mentioned porn once in the many years I have viewed this site until today.
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The fact that you feel the need to equate porn with success is truly what is sad
The fact that I spoke the truth? Would you rather I lied to you?
Not everyone who looks at porn is"creepy" or "immoral" or "perverted" or"endangers children" or whatever other nonsense you just said. If you are uncomfortable with the human form I'm sorry to say but you are the odd one out.
Porn is a relevant topic, I 'was' having a sensible discussion as to the potential affects porn may have on the adoption of the iphone until you randomly accused me of being "an idiot" for mentioning sex.
I have no problem with the human form. It's the EXPLICIT use of the human form. (Do you even know what porn is?) And I called you an idiot for bringing up porn and masturbation, not sex. Porn is no more relevant than slavery or drug addiction.
But hey, you keep telling yourself whatever you need to make yourself comfortable with it. If I'm the odd man out, then thank you.
I'll never own another Nokia phone as long as I live. The one I have now, is really pretty horrid. And get this, nowhere in the instruction manual, and I mean NOWHERE, does it tell you how to perform one of the most basic functions of ANY phone: How to adjust the volume. Really, if that is as much thought as they put into their products, I'll pass.
In case you are still trying to work the volume thing out, its the two buttons on the side of the device. Just like the iphone, which does not even come with a manual.
Yes, I did register just to reply to your comments. Many folks here (most?) probably want Apple news. We don't need some creepy forum poster dying to bring up masturbation and porn. Go somewhere else. I don't intend to speak for the rest of the posters here, but is there nowhere we can go without some perv bringing up porn?
Great. Porn makes money. So does crack and prostitution. Porn has corrupted the world, is morally wrong, and endangers my children. I haven't been reading AppleInsider too long, but if people like you are the makeup of this board, I may have misjudged the site.
Jumping off of my soapbox, you are creepy. The fact that you feel the need to equate porn with success is truly what is sad.
Anyone who thinks that way about porn is CREEPY!
I think you might want to go somewhere else, Frank, you're weirding us all out.
I have no problem with the human form. It's the EXPLICIT use of the human form. (Do you even know what porn is?) And I called you an idiot for bringing up porn and masturbation, not sex. Porn is no more relevant than slavery or drug addiction.
I love the way you try and associate sex with racism. nice, real parallels there!
Listen I have many immoral things I must get on with, nice talking to you.
I love the way you try and associate sex with racism. nice, real parallels there!
Listen I have many immoral things I must get on with, nice talking to you.
Sorry pinhead, I was relating these things in reference to the iPhone.
To each his own, and I guess you and your buddy are right, this may not be the board for me. I feel sorry for your spouses, though I'm guessing you don't have one or your wouldn't be a porn fiend. You'd be amazed at what a healthy marriage can do for your lovelife.
Sorry pinhead, I was relating these things in reference to the iPhone.
To each his own, and I guess you and your buddy are right, this may not be the board for me. I feel sorry for your spouses, though I'm guessing you don't have one or your wouldn't be a porn fiend. You'd be amazed at what a healthy marriage can do for your lovelife.
God bless you.
Ever do your sexy wife from behind? How immoral! How'd you find the internet, anyway?
In case you are still trying to work the volume thing out, its the two buttons on the side of the device. Just like the iphone, which does not even come with a manual.
Sorry pinhead, I was relating these things in reference to the iPhone.
To each his own, and I guess you and your buddy are right, this may not be the board for me. I feel sorry for your spouses, though I'm guessing you don't have one or your wouldn't be a porn fiend. You'd be amazed at what a healthy marriage can do for your lovelife.
God bless you.
Ah, the God angle. Surely you can add some anti-gay rhetoric as well.
Jody, you should just stop posting about the iPhone.
It's clear that you don't know what you're talking about, and even your resources don't say what you're saying.
The fact that Google has an app on the iPhone that 30-55 year old people don't know how ONE multi touch gesture works doesn't mean most users don't know multi-touch is there.
And another thing, some apps are more important than others.
I defy you to show me a study that says most iPhone users don't know about multi-touch gesture uses on the web browser! (remember, it's not fair to limit the study to old people that have trouble with hi-tech devices)
Let's have a look at that Nokia device and see how you navigate over-sized webpages and understand what you're doing.
And as for the iPhone being all JPegs when it was shown, I'd remind you that Jobs was reported to be in peoples offices actually using the phone. Apple didn't run around propping it up in front of the media to stop the stock from sliding and trying to put a hold on customers fleeing the company like Nokia is doing. Apple was hiding it from view so competitors would keep flailing and guys like Balmer would keep saying stupid stuff that proved they have no idea what they, Motorola, Palm, Nokia and Rimm are talking about.
using technologies bought and paid for by immoral porn barons at a guess
You've heard the saying " A man is known by the company he keeps. "
It is reasonably safe to say that pornographers, virus writers, identity phishers, software pirates and spammers are pretty much cut from the same cloth which is why their activities are often interlinked.
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Re: multitouch: I think Apple has specific patents on capacitive multitouch, there are other forms of it, one involves reading the internal reflection of the glass panel with an array of sensors. I think Microsoft's surface uses an infrared light and camera to see where objects are touching the table.
Apple doesn't have any patents that would stop other capacitive touchscreen phones coming out. You bet that Samsung are working on a sequal to the Omnia with multitouch.
As is customary with most Nokia phone introductions, the N97 lacks support for AT&T's 3G network.
It supports HSDPA on 900/1900/2100Mhz. Doesn't that cover AT&T?
Personally, I'm looking forward to the N97. The iPhone has too many limitations to satisfy a nerd like me - especially as I've got an iPod touch anyway. I've currently got a Nokia N95 8GB and I'm very happy with it, apart from the lack of a keyboard.
32GB onboard + 32GB microSDHC should be fun.
All this does, is help Apple to decide what features they NEED to come out with. If we all complain enough about features we'd like, and the competition comes out with them, then Apple will give much more serious look at these features.
Apple will get beat to many "cool" features for phones, it's whether or not, these features really matter to folks.
Some features are ? wants, while some features / requests are needs. I believe Apple looks at all of these and decides which is the most important at the time and makes them part of the new iPhone.
If Apple came out with a phone that did EVERYTHING we wanted it to do, WE'D want more with the next new model, because after all, it doesn't do this ? what ever to hell "this" is.
This is good for us and for Apple, so sit back and enjoy the ride, I promise you'll be glad you did.
In case you haven't noticed, Apple stock is a GREAT buy!
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The gentleman who criticize this subject being brought up are not history scholars obviously. I recall lectures at University in the history of art department referencing the volume of 'oil on canvas' being heavily influenced over the centuries by such matters too. Don't forget to add in the development of the camera, the development of film, the development of moving pictures ... all had massive uptake due to, shall we say, 'visual art'. The VHS tape deck's success over the superior rival is attributed to the same thing as it was far cheaper and quality wasn't the main concern for 'those uses'.
Apple should not do anything to encourage porn openly, but speaking as a share holder, Apple should not do anything to prevent whatever use an owner wishes in this area. I totally agree with you, history shows if some iPhone knock off makes porn usage very simple it may do a 'VHS over Beta' repeat.
Thank you, finally someone with a grip on reality.
Porn has been a major drive in technology, if people choose to blinker themselves from that fact then so be it, but spare me the insults.
I was involved in early web porn developments, the servers we used were some of the fastest on the planet, with hundreds of thousands of daily visitors drawing high bandwidth content, it had to be. No other industry came close to the technological demands we had, or had the money sloshing around to drive technology forward.
During that time 90% of search terms were for sex, and not only was it popular, it was VERY VERY profitable, even video conferencing as a technology was pushed forward by sex, and many of todays popular web apps (such as digg and facebook)have concepts that were born from porn some 15 years ago, like it or not, believe me or not.
Thank you, finally someone with a grip on reality.
Porn has been a major drive in technology, if people choose to blinker themselves from that fact then so be it, but spare me the insults.
I was involved in early web porn developments, the servers we used were some of the fastest on the planet, with hundreds of thousands of daily visitors drawing high bandwidth content, it had to be. No other industry came close to the technological demands we had, or had the money sloshing around to drive technology forward.
During that time 90% of search terms were for sex, and not only was it popular, it was VERY VERY profitable, even video conferencing as a technology was pushed forward by sex, and many of todays popular web apps (such as digg and facebook)have concepts that were born from porn some 15 years ago, like it or not, believe me or not.
You are right on point with your post. When 3G came out, we joked that it stood for: Girl, Games, Gaming. It seems that the gaming missed the mark, games are floundering but girls are alive and kicking.
Thank you, finally someone with a grip on reality.
Porn has been a major drive in technology, if people choose to blinker themselves from that fact then so be it, but spare me the insults.
I was involved in early web porn developments, the servers we used were some of the fastest on the planet, with hundreds of thousands of daily visitors drawing high bandwidth content, it had to be. No other industry came close to the technological demands we had, or had the money sloshing around to drive technology forward.
During that time 90% of search terms were for sex, and not only was it popular, it was VERY VERY profitable, even video conferencing as a technology was pushed forward by sex, and many of todays popular web apps (such as digg and facebook)have concepts that were born from porn some 15 years ago, like it or not, believe me or not.
Yes, I did register just to reply to your comments. Many folks here (most?) probably want Apple news. We don't need some creepy forum poster dying to bring up masturbation and porn. Go somewhere else. I don't intend to speak for the rest of the posters here, but is there nowhere we can go without some perv bringing up porn?
Great. Porn makes money. So does crack and prostitution. Porn has corrupted the world, is morally wrong, and endangers my children. I haven't been reading AppleInsider too long, but if people like you are the makeup of this board, I may have misjudged the site.
Jumping off of my soapbox, you are creepy. The fact that you feel the need to equate porn with success is truly what is sad.
Yes, I did register just to reply to your comments. Many folks here (most?) probably want Apple news. We don't need some creepy forum poster dying to bring up masturbation and porn. Go somewhere else. I don't intend to speak for the rest of the posters here, but is there nowhere we can go without some perv bringing up porn?
Great. Porn makes money. So does crack and prostitution. Porn has corrupted the world, is morally wrong, and endangers my children. I haven't been reading AppleInsider too long, but if people like you are the makeup of this board, I may have misjudged the site.
Jumping off of my soapbox, you are creepy. The fact that you feel the need to equate porn with success is truly what is sad.
Not everyone who looks at porn is"creepy" or "immoral" or "perverted" or"endangers children" or whatever other nonsense you just said. If you are uncomfortable with the human form I'm sorry to say but you are the odd one out.
Porn is a relevant topic, I 'was' having a sensible discussion as to the potential affects porn may have on the adoption of the iphone until you randomly accused me of being "an idiot" for mentioning sex.
I dont believe I have mentioned porn once in the many years I have viewed this site until today.
The fact that you feel the need to equate porn with success is truly what is sad
The fact that I spoke the truth? Would you rather I lied to you?
Not everyone who looks at porn is"creepy" or "immoral" or "perverted" or"endangers children" or whatever other nonsense you just said. If you are uncomfortable with the human form I'm sorry to say but you are the odd one out.
Porn is a relevant topic, I 'was' having a sensible discussion as to the potential affects porn may have on the adoption of the iphone until you randomly accused me of being "an idiot" for mentioning sex.
I have no problem with the human form. It's the EXPLICIT use of the human form. (Do you even know what porn is?) And I called you an idiot for bringing up porn and masturbation, not sex. Porn is no more relevant than slavery or drug addiction.
But hey, you keep telling yourself whatever you need to make yourself comfortable with it. If I'm the odd man out, then thank you.
I'll never own another Nokia phone as long as I live. The one I have now, is really pretty horrid. And get this, nowhere in the instruction manual, and I mean NOWHERE, does it tell you how to perform one of the most basic functions of ANY phone: How to adjust the volume. Really, if that is as much thought as they put into their products, I'll pass.
In case you are still trying to work the volume thing out, its the two buttons on the side of the device. Just like the iphone, which does not even come with a manual.
Yes, I did register just to reply to your comments. Many folks here (most?) probably want Apple news. We don't need some creepy forum poster dying to bring up masturbation and porn. Go somewhere else. I don't intend to speak for the rest of the posters here, but is there nowhere we can go without some perv bringing up porn?
Great. Porn makes money. So does crack and prostitution. Porn has corrupted the world, is morally wrong, and endangers my children. I haven't been reading AppleInsider too long, but if people like you are the makeup of this board, I may have misjudged the site.
Jumping off of my soapbox, you are creepy. The fact that you feel the need to equate porn with success is truly what is sad.
Anyone who thinks that way about porn is CREEPY!
I think you might want to go somewhere else, Frank, you're weirding us all out.
I have no problem with the human form. It's the EXPLICIT use of the human form. (Do you even know what porn is?) And I called you an idiot for bringing up porn and masturbation, not sex. Porn is no more relevant than slavery or drug addiction.
I love the way you try and associate sex with racism. nice, real parallels there!
Listen I have many immoral things I must get on with, nice talking to you.
I love the way you try and associate sex with racism. nice, real parallels there!
Listen I have many immoral things I must get on with, nice talking to you.
Sorry pinhead, I was relating these things in reference to the iPhone.
To each his own, and I guess you and your buddy are right, this may not be the board for me. I feel sorry for your spouses, though I'm guessing you don't have one or your wouldn't be a porn fiend. You'd be amazed at what a healthy marriage can do for your lovelife.
God bless you.
Sorry pinhead, I was relating these things in reference to the iPhone.
To each his own, and I guess you and your buddy are right, this may not be the board for me. I feel sorry for your spouses, though I'm guessing you don't have one or your wouldn't be a porn fiend. You'd be amazed at what a healthy marriage can do for your lovelife.
God bless you.
Ever do your sexy wife from behind? How immoral!
In case you are still trying to work the volume thing out, its the two buttons on the side of the device. Just like the iphone, which does not even come with a manual.
Maybe he can't read. Simply pathetic.
Ever do your sexy wife from behind? How immoral!
using technologies bought and paid for by immoral porn barons at a guess
Sorry pinhead, I was relating these things in reference to the iPhone.
To each his own, and I guess you and your buddy are right, this may not be the board for me. I feel sorry for your spouses, though I'm guessing you don't have one or your wouldn't be a porn fiend. You'd be amazed at what a healthy marriage can do for your lovelife.
God bless you.
Ah, the God angle. Surely you can add some anti-gay rhetoric as well.
I just don't like Nokia phones, I prefer Blackberries and now iphones.
Great post. Honest and to the point. Worthy of respect. I may disagree with you but I think this is the best post I have ever read by you.
And three, multitouch is only used in a couple of apps. And as research has shown, most users don't even know it is there.
Jody, you should just stop posting about the iPhone.
It's clear that you don't know what you're talking about, and even your resources don't say what you're saying.
The fact that Google has an app on the iPhone that 30-55 year old people don't know how ONE multi touch gesture works doesn't mean most users don't know multi-touch is there.
And another thing, some apps are more important than others.
I defy you to show me a study that says most iPhone users don't know about multi-touch gesture uses on the web browser! (remember, it's not fair to limit the study to old people that have trouble with hi-tech devices)
Let's have a look at that Nokia device and see how you navigate over-sized webpages and understand what you're doing.
And as for the iPhone being all JPegs when it was shown, I'd remind you that Jobs was reported to be in peoples offices actually using the phone. Apple didn't run around propping it up in front of the media to stop the stock from sliding and trying to put a hold on customers fleeing the company like Nokia is doing. Apple was hiding it from view so competitors would keep flailing and guys like Balmer would keep saying stupid stuff that proved they have no idea what they, Motorola, Palm, Nokia and Rimm are talking about.
Spanked and put to bed, see ya Jody.
using technologies bought and paid for by immoral porn barons at a guess
You've heard the saying " A man is known by the company he keeps. "
It is reasonably safe to say that pornographers, virus writers, identity phishers, software pirates and spammers are pretty much cut from the same cloth which is why their activities are often interlinked.