Apple's new AirPort, Time Capsule add dual-band networking

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in Current Mac Hardware edited January 2014
Apple on Tuesday refreshed its AirPort Extreme and Time Capsule wireless products by adding a new Guest Network feature and support for simultaneous 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz dual-band networking. Time Capsule drives are now also accessible over the Internet for MobileMe subscribers.



The new Guest Network feature, available on the new AirPort Extreme and Time Capsule, allows you to set up a secondary network for friends and visitors with Internet-only access so you don't have to hand out your WiFi password.



Meanwhile, the new combined 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz mode allows your AirPort base stations to simultaneously support iPhones and other 802.11b/g devices operating at 2.4 GHz, while also broadcasting 802.11n wide signals in the 5GHz band to maximize throughput for notebooks and devices such as Apple TV.



Previous-generation AirPort Extreme and Time Capsule models can only run in one mode or the other, providing either wide compatibility or the highest possible network performance, but not both.



Also new to Time Capsule -- and oddly omitted from any of Apple's press-releases -- is that MobileMe subscribers using Mac OS X 10.5.x Leopard can now now access all of their files on their Time Capsule drive over the Internet.



You need only to register their Time Capsule with your MobileMe account. The Time Capsule drive will then appear in the Finder sidebar of your Mac just like any other attached drive.



"It's like having your own personal file server wherever you go," Apple says.



The new Time Capsule, which combines an 802.11n router and server-grade hard disk for automatic wireless back-up with Time Machine, and is immediately available in two models: a 500GB model for $299 and a 1TB model for $499.



The rear of Apple's AirPort Extreme.



The rear of Apple's Time Capsule backup appliance.



The AirPort Extreme Base Station is also available immediately for a suggested retail price of $179.
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  • Reply 1 of 48
    utisnum1utisnum1 Posts: 138member
    No 2TB? Geez, way to disappoint.
  • Reply 2 of 48
    tetzel1517tetzel1517 Posts: 204member
    The Guest Network and dual-band networking features are very, very nice, (I'm definitely going to get the new AE) but Apple is really stretching credibility to suggest that a 1TB hard drive is worth $320.
  • Reply 3 of 48
    sigs21sigs21 Posts: 82member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tetzel1517 View Post


    The Guest Network and dual-band networking features are very, very nice, (I'm definitely going to get the new AE) but Apple is really stretching credibility to suggest that a 1TB hard drive is worth $320.





    sure wish I could just load Iphoto and Itunes on it and play off all my macs.. come on apple..





    Will go get the new extreme and keep my old one to ..
  • Reply 4 of 48
    o4blackwrxo4blackwrx Posts: 383member
    I wonder if the other airport extreme n versions could be updated (even for a fee) to support guest and dual band. I would love to use dual band, all my devices except my wife's and my 3G's are N and I hate running at g just for iPhone's! I just can't justify a $200 upgrade for these features.
  • Reply 5 of 48
    mrjoec123mrjoec123 Posts: 223member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by O4BlackWRX View Post


    I wonder if the other airport extreme n versions could be updated (even for a fee) to support guest and dual band. I would love to use dual band, all my devices except my wife's and my 3G's are N and I hate running at g just for iPhone's! I just can't justify a $200 upgrade for these features.



    I've been running two different Airport Basestations for this reason. The n serves up my laptop; the G, plugged into my n via Ethernet, serves up another g network for the iPhones and guests who come over the house. That way, my laptop always gets maximum bandwidth. The Apple TV and mini are plugged into the Airport via Ethernet, so they never interfere.
  • Reply 6 of 48
    andi86andi86 Posts: 3member
    I so want one of these! But i don't see the point in having an adsl router, which i then have to connect into this in order to use it as a wireless access point! If apple where to add the capabilities into it for it to function as an adsl modem/router combo, i would buy it in a flash!



    I don't need anymore clutter!
  • Reply 7 of 48
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,425member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by UTisNUM1 View Post


    No 2TB? Geez, way to disappoint.



    Availability. Apple's not magic I doubt they could get the quantity they need and at 300 dollars the 2TB WD drive would mean at the least a $599 Time Capsule
  • Reply 8 of 48
    utisnum1utisnum1 Posts: 138member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hmurchison View Post


    Availability. Apple's not magic I doubt they could get the quantity they need and at 300 dollars the 2TB WD drive would mean at the least a $599 Time Capsule



    It should at least have been an upgrade. I have a 1TB Time Capsule and it has only 300MB left, This is spanned through my small business.
  • Reply 9 of 48
    breezebreeze Posts: 96member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    Apple on Tuesday refreshed its AirPort Extreme and Time Capsule wireless products by adding a new Guest Network feature and support for simultaneous 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz dual-band networking.



    The new Guest Network feature allows you to set up a secondary network for friends and visitors with Internet-only access so you don't have to hand out your WiFi password.



    Meanwhile, the new combined 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz mode allows your AirPort base stations to simultaneously support iPhones and other 802.11b/g devices operating at 2.4 GHz, while also broadcasting 802.11n wide signals in the 5GHz band to maximize throughput for notebooks and devices such as Apple TV.



    Previous-generation AirPort Extreme and Time Capsule models can only run in one mode or the other, providing either wide compatibility or the highest possible network performance, but not both



    The new Time Capsule, which combines an 802.11n router and server-grade hard disk for automatic wireless back-up with Time Machine, and is immediately available in two models: a 500GB model for $299 and a 1TB model for $499.



    The rear of Apple's AirPort Extreme.



    The rear of Apple's Time Capsule backup appliance.



    The AirPort Extreme Base Station is also available immediately for a suggested retail price of $179.





    Any idea if a firmware upgrade will be available for older Time Capsules?





    If not, I have a new (sealed box) 1TB model that I will sell for $100 less than current price, to anyone interested
  • Reply 10 of 48
    tetzel1517tetzel1517 Posts: 204member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mrjoec123 View Post


    I've been running two different Airport Basestations for this reason. The n serves up my laptop; the G, plugged into my n via Ethernet, serves up another g network for the iPhones and guests who come over the house. That way, my laptop always gets maximum bandwidth. The Apple TV and mini are plugged into the Airport via Ethernet, so they never interfere.



    If I get the new base station, would it be possible to use my current one as an extender? I'd like to hook my Blu-Ray up to it to access BD Live content
  • Reply 11 of 48
    breezebreeze Posts: 96member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tetzel1517 View Post


    If I get the new base station, would it be possible to use my current one as an extender? I'd like to hook my Blu-Ray up to it to access BD Live content



    Yes, follow the below listed link titled : Using the AirPort Admin Utility to create a WDS network with multiple base stations





    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107454
  • Reply 12 of 48
    wigginwiggin Posts: 2,265member
    Is the guest access new? I'm pretty sure the Extreme I bought last year already had an option for guest access. I just assumed the TC and Express also had it already. Or am I missing something?
  • Reply 13 of 48
    jsonjson Posts: 54member
    I wonder if the AE (and TC) has a new wlan chipset to be able to handle the "dual band" functionality.... if so maybe the performance has gone up too.....



    I guess I'll have to wait until "someone" buys one and takes it apart.
  • Reply 14 of 48
    nasseraenasserae Posts: 3,167member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by UTisNUM1 View Post


    It should at least have been an upgrade. I have a 1TB Time Capsule and it has only 300MB left, This is spanned through my small business.



    You can always attach external HD to you TC or AE. You can even use a powered USB port to connect an external HDD and a printer.
  • Reply 15 of 48
    tetzel1517tetzel1517 Posts: 204member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by breeze View Post


    Yes, follow the below listed link titled : Using the AirPort Admin Utility to create a WDS network with multiple base stations





    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107454



    Excellent! But it leads to another question: I want to take advantage of the dual-band features on the new base station. Will my devices know to connect via the new base station and not the old one, or does it not matter? I'm worried that if they somehow go to the older base station, then all my wireless-N devices would be forced to work at wireless-G speeds.
  • Reply 16 of 48
    breezebreeze Posts: 96member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tetzel1517 View Post


    Excellent! But it leads to another question: I want to take advantage of the dual-band features on the new base station. Will my devices know to connect via the new base station and not the old one, or does it not matter? I'm worried that if they somehow go to the older base station, then all my wireless-N devices would be forced to work at wireless-G speeds.



    I'm sure that's a common situation that has a solution, in light of the ability to have two protocols available simultaneously. The new Time Capsule manual should address these situations, however, Apple product specialists are always pretty helpful if you call and ask for specific walkthrough, setup and configuration help too.
  • Reply 17 of 48
    irchsirchs Posts: 86member
    Any QoS features or anything like that?
  • Reply 18 of 48
    hillstoneshillstones Posts: 1,490member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AnDi86 View Post


    I so want one of these! But i don't see the point in having an adsl router, which i then have to connect into this in order to use it as a wireless access point! If apple where to add the capabilities into it for it to function as an adsl modem/router combo, i would buy it in a flash!



    I don't need anymore clutter!



    No one else would buy it. Not everyone has DSL.
  • Reply 19 of 48
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    The new Guest Network feature allows you to set up a secondary network for friends and visitors with Internet-only access so you don't have to hand out your WiFi password.



    THANK YOU APPLE!



    I just bought a new LinkSys router because it had QOS. Turns out it's completely unusable, and it locks up all the time (DHCP just stops working). Guest access is worth more to me than QOS, so that's that.



    For those of you that have a Time Capsule, can you hear it? I have an Apple TV and it bothers me that I can hear the drive from across the room (yes, very good ears). Does the TC spin down the drive when it's not being used?



    Maury
  • Reply 20 of 48
    boogabooga Posts: 1,082member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Maury Markowitz View Post


    THANK YOU APPLE!



    I just bought a new LinkSys router because it had QOS. Turns out it's completely unusable, and it locks up all the time (DHCP just stops working). Guest access is worth more to me than QOS, so that's that.



    For those of you that have a Time Capsule, can you hear it? I have an Apple TV and it bothers me that I can hear the drive from across the room (yes, very good ears). Does the TC spin down the drive when it's not being used?



    Maury



    Time Capsule noise: I don't know-- it's usually located on the other side of the house. Unlike AppleTV which has to be close to the TV, you can put the time capsule in the basement, closet, attic, kitchen cabinets...
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