Apple sells more notebooks than desktops and those didn't get any more USB, and actually lost FW400, so I doubt that is the reason for the addition.
This was to be expected since the device charges and syncs through the headphone jack and the connectors had to be changed to allow input from the headphone cable. You might think that normal headphones shouldn't be able to work but the L and R audio out hasn't changed, probably so regular headphones can work as well (I am referring more to the other iPods that use this quad-connector), but the connector to charge and sync probably has changed. At least the simple, short USB-to-3.5mm quad headphone jack will be a very, very cheap item on Monoprice next month.
As an IT tech mostly Apple, gsx global anyone (we get paid to maintain our gear), most guess as well as tech sites thatbexta USB is for iphone developers as many use them for this reason as you can't develop on the PC.
Just a thought. Do I love being tied in to headphone, no. Perhaps others will come along. Foe the iPhone I have learned to deal with them and they are not that bad. Might get one for novelty as well as size.
That's not true, actually. To fast-forward you double-click and hold after the second click. To fast rewind you triple click and hold. Funny that the Apple Store employee would get it wrong.
To be fair, they don't know much but it's not their fault but Apple marketing. Example, Peo care and one to one used to be one program and the teachers knew motion, FCP, shake, Logic, now all they know is iLife as the market dictates that. All if not most are new switchers mom pop students wanting to use their .mac and iWeb, iPhoto. Mac specialist need to review the one page tear sheet. Probably hadn't seen it but just saw the info card.
Why can't we all accept that in a few weeks someone will release an adapater that provides the remote functions and a 3.5jack for non-Apple headphones?
As for the post, I wonder how much Apple is influencing/investing in battery design? They made a trade off in capacity for size for the shuffle, but capacity will always be something they'll want to increase. With $20 billion lying around, I'd hope they're engaging some battery manufacturers to improve their R&D.
The problem is not in the adapter. Apple took away the functionality of the clickwheel and replaced it with some sort of triple button system and green light flashing one has to memorize and practice for couple hours before it can be really used in full. They could add this remote as a feature on the Apple earphones and keep the clickwheel. That way one could swap those cheap earbuds with any other headset without worrying about the adapter, jack, remote function. They have sacrificed user comfort for size - not a good deal in my opinion.
That's not true, actually. To fast-forward you double-click and hold after the second click. To fast rewind you triple click and hold. Funny that the Apple Store employee would get it wrong.
I overheard an Apple store employee last night tell a potential iMac customer that it's new keyboard was all she needed but if she wanted the other one she could buy it separately.
That's not true, actually. To fast-forward you double-click and hold after the second click. To fast rewind you triple click and hold. Funny that the Apple Store employee would get it wrong.
You missed the point of BeaverbookG4's comment. He wants the ability to skip forward or back a few seconds at a time, rather than one track at a time:
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Originally Posted by BeaverbookG4
I was really excited about this new generation... Until my father bought one, and found out that there was NO fast forward OR rewind function (as in skipping seconds through songs)
I personally think that this feature is almost completely useless on my 1Gen Shuffle, but apparently not everyone feels the same.
The last picture in the article is what the thing will look like after the first time you forget you left it in your pocket and it goes through the washing machine with the rest of your laundry.
Makes me think of the SNL skit with Fred Armisen playing Steve Jobs stopping by as a guest on the news segment. Every few seconds he announced a new smaller and smaller device until he was finally holding up his empty fingers, pretending their was a tiny device there.
Before, the Shuffle had battery power, but no memory. Now they have memory and no battery life. It looks to me as though there's room in there for a thicker battery. "Up to ten hours" means 6-8 in my book. Not enough if you're traveling
Before, the Shuffle had battery power, but no memory. Now they have memory and no battery life. It looks to me as though there's room in there for a thicker battery. "Up to ten hours" means 6-8 in my book. Not enough if you're traveling
Considering the 1st and 2nd gen Shuffles had 12 hours it's only 2 hours difference, but that is only 17% less. I don't think are indicative of actual audio playback for iPod, but if we add 20% to your assumed times we get 7.2-9.6 hours. Not much of a change. Apple did well to reduce the battery by about half while keeping so much usage, but I surely would have wanted and equal or longer lasting battery, too. Though 10 hours is more than enough for my workout needs for a a couple weeks.
The nice thing about the new shuffle, other than better handling of playlists, is the fact that your player can be deep within your clothing and you can still control the thing. This is a feature no other iPod tackles and very useful when performing sports, working around the house or anywhere where the wires can get caught, or when you don't want the iPod exposed (as in "come and get me!"). I think the controls will be a non issue once people have used it for a few days. The headphones? I agree with the complaints but there is an easy way around the problem until third party headphones arrive, namely stick with your existing set up. I wouldn't be surprised if the cable control feature becomes a standard option on all future iPods.
Makes me think of the SNL skit with Fred Armisen playing Steve Jobs stopping by as a guest on the news segment. Every few seconds he announced a new smaller and smaller device until he was finally holding up his empty fingers, pretending their was a tiny device there.
That's so true- it reminds the other post who asked whether or not this was an April Fool's joke released to early.
They can't even display it in the store properly, it's so small- an Apple salesman has to whip it out from their pockets with that strange USB connector attached to it and no headphones. You can't demo the sound and features?????
The problem is not in the adapter. Apple took away the functionality of the clickwheel and replaced it with some sort of triple button system and green light flashing one has to memorize and practice for couple hours before it can be really used in full. They could add this remote as a feature on the Apple earphones and keep the clickwheel. That way one could swap those cheap earbuds with any other headset without worrying about the adapter, jack, remote function. They have sacrificed user comfort for size - not a good deal in my opinion.
And in addition, the main advantage of the shuffle (small size, simplicity), to me, is defeated by having to attach an adapter to it, to say nothing of the cost. I used to use wired remotes with the hard drive based iPods. They cost $50, the same as the 1GB 2nd gen shuffle. And they didn't last that long, with the clips eventually breaking.
The nice thing about the new shuffle, other than better handling of playlists, is the fact that your player can be deep within your clothing and you can still control the thing. This is a feature no other iPod tackles and very useful when performing sports, working around the house or anywhere where the wires can get caught, or when you don't want the iPod exposed (as in "come and get me!").
Right - as if no one is going to know you're carrying an iPod as you wear white, ear bud headphones. The fact is the exact opposite would occur.
The nice thing about the new shuffle, other than better handling of playlists, is the fact that your player can be deep within your clothing and you can still control the thing. This is a feature no other iPod tackles and very useful when performing sports, working around the house or anywhere where the wires can get caught, or when you don't want the iPod exposed (as in "come and get me!").
I wouldn't say that. That's the whole purpose of the wired remote that's always been available, and used to be included with the hard drive based iPods. iPhones and iPod Touches also have controls built into included earbuds.
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So, Samsung now provides ARM processor, RAM, and flash memory on a single package?
Apple sells more notebooks than desktops and those didn't get any more USB, and actually lost FW400, so I doubt that is the reason for the addition.
This was to be expected since the device charges and syncs through the headphone jack and the connectors had to be changed to allow input from the headphone cable. You might think that normal headphones shouldn't be able to work but the L and R audio out hasn't changed, probably so regular headphones can work as well (I am referring more to the other iPods that use this quad-connector), but the connector to charge and sync probably has changed. At least the simple, short USB-to-3.5mm quad headphone jack will be a very, very cheap item on Monoprice next month.
As an IT tech mostly Apple, gsx global anyone (we get paid to maintain our gear), most guess as well as tech sites thatbexta USB is for iphone developers as many use them for this reason as you can't develop on the PC.
Just a thought. Do I love being tied in to headphone, no. Perhaps others will come along. Foe the iPhone I have learned to deal with them and they are not that bad. Might get one for novelty as well as size.
Peace
That's not true, actually. To fast-forward you double-click and hold after the second click. To fast rewind you triple click and hold. Funny that the Apple Store employee would get it wrong.
To be fair, they don't know much but it's not their fault but Apple marketing. Example, Peo care and one to one used to be one program and the teachers knew motion, FCP, shake, Logic, now all they know is iLife as the market dictates that. All if not most are new switchers mom pop students wanting to use their .mac and iWeb, iPhoto. Mac specialist need to review the one page tear sheet. Probably hadn't seen it but just saw the info card.
Peace
Why can't we all accept that in a few weeks someone will release an adapater that provides the remote functions and a 3.5jack for non-Apple headphones?
As for the post, I wonder how much Apple is influencing/investing in battery design? They made a trade off in capacity for size for the shuffle, but capacity will always be something they'll want to increase. With $20 billion lying around, I'd hope they're engaging some battery manufacturers to improve their R&D.
The problem is not in the adapter. Apple took away the functionality of the clickwheel and replaced it with some sort of triple button system and green light flashing one has to memorize and practice for couple hours before it can be really used in full. They could add this remote as a feature on the Apple earphones and keep the clickwheel. That way one could swap those cheap earbuds with any other headset without worrying about the adapter, jack, remote function. They have sacrificed user comfort for size - not a good deal in my opinion.
...without Apple's proprietary headphone playback control, you will not be able to change songs or adjust the volume
That seals the lid on the coffin.
That's not true, actually. To fast-forward you double-click and hold after the second click. To fast rewind you triple click and hold. Funny that the Apple Store employee would get it wrong.
I overheard an Apple store employee last night tell a potential iMac customer that it's new keyboard was all she needed but if she wanted the other one she could buy it separately.
This iPod is dangerously small. That is, swallowed by a toddler small.
(I hope they put a choking hazard warning on the packaging)
I guess the black one could be mistaken for a piece of licorice.
Sorry, I guess I should have marked my original comment with a sarcasm tag, but I thought it was kind of obvious.
Don't worry, it WAS obvious.
That's not true, actually. To fast-forward you double-click and hold after the second click. To fast rewind you triple click and hold. Funny that the Apple Store employee would get it wrong.
You missed the point of BeaverbookG4's comment. He wants the ability to skip forward or back a few seconds at a time, rather than one track at a time:
I was really excited about this new generation... Until my father bought one, and found out that there was NO fast forward OR rewind function (as in skipping seconds through songs)
I personally think that this feature is almost completely useless on my 1Gen Shuffle, but apparently not everyone feels the same.
You missed the point of BeaverbookG4's comment. He wants the ability to skip forward or back a few seconds at a time, rather than one track at a time:
I personally think that this feature is almost completely useless on my 1Gen Shuffle, but apparently not everyone feels the same.
On a long music selection, let's say over 8 minutes, it's great.
Makes me think of the SNL skit with Fred Armisen playing Steve Jobs stopping by as a guest on the news segment. Every few seconds he announced a new smaller and smaller device until he was finally holding up his empty fingers, pretending their was a tiny device there.
On a long music selection, let's say over 8 minutes, it's great.
Podcasts and audio books too.
Before, the Shuffle had battery power, but no memory. Now they have memory and no battery life. It looks to me as though there's room in there for a thicker battery. "Up to ten hours" means 6-8 in my book. Not enough if you're traveling
Considering the 1st and 2nd gen Shuffles had 12 hours it's only 2 hours difference, but that is only 17% less. I don't think are indicative of actual audio playback for iPod, but if we add 20% to your assumed times we get 7.2-9.6 hours. Not much of a change. Apple did well to reduce the battery by about half while keeping so much usage, but I surely would have wanted and equal or longer lasting battery, too. Though 10 hours is more than enough for my workout needs for a a couple weeks.
Should I ever accidentally swallow it I can at least remotely operate it via the ear-buds hahahaha
Makes me think of the SNL skit with Fred Armisen playing Steve Jobs stopping by as a guest on the news segment. Every few seconds he announced a new smaller and smaller device until he was finally holding up his empty fingers, pretending their was a tiny device there.
That's so true- it reminds the other post who asked whether or not this was an April Fool's joke released to early.
They can't even display it in the store properly, it's so small- an Apple salesman has to whip it out from their pockets with that strange USB connector attached to it and no headphones. You can't demo the sound and features?????
The problem is not in the adapter. Apple took away the functionality of the clickwheel and replaced it with some sort of triple button system and green light flashing one has to memorize and practice for couple hours before it can be really used in full. They could add this remote as a feature on the Apple earphones and keep the clickwheel. That way one could swap those cheap earbuds with any other headset without worrying about the adapter, jack, remote function. They have sacrificed user comfort for size - not a good deal in my opinion.
And in addition, the main advantage of the shuffle (small size, simplicity), to me, is defeated by having to attach an adapter to it, to say nothing of the cost. I used to use wired remotes with the hard drive based iPods. They cost $50, the same as the 1GB 2nd gen shuffle. And they didn't last that long, with the clips eventually breaking.
Earlier thread on cost of iPod remote:
http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=84787
While I like a lot of the new features, I see it fitting in a more narrowly defined niche now than the previous Shuffle.
The nice thing about the new shuffle, other than better handling of playlists, is the fact that your player can be deep within your clothing and you can still control the thing. This is a feature no other iPod tackles and very useful when performing sports, working around the house or anywhere where the wires can get caught, or when you don't want the iPod exposed (as in "come and get me!").
Right - as if no one is going to know you're carrying an iPod as you wear white, ear bud headphones. The fact is the exact opposite would occur.
The nice thing about the new shuffle, other than better handling of playlists, is the fact that your player can be deep within your clothing and you can still control the thing. This is a feature no other iPod tackles and very useful when performing sports, working around the house or anywhere where the wires can get caught, or when you don't want the iPod exposed (as in "come and get me!").
I wouldn't say that. That's the whole purpose of the wired remote that's always been available, and used to be included with the hard drive based iPods. iPhones and iPod Touches also have controls built into included earbuds.