New discoveries turn up in betas of Apple's iPhone 3.0 software

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  • Reply 21 of 71
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    Originally Posted by teckstud View Post


    Ok then it must be different for an iPod Touch. I've never seen the plug-in icon nor the "Usage" in the settings.



    Its there Buddy!!
  • Reply 22 of 71
    iPhone is great and with 3.0 they will add many good and basic stuff. But still a couple of things:



    I may be lost somewhere - but mail to a group in my contact list? Would be nice! Also Mail filters.



    The calendar - hey - let's make it have the possibilities to connect and invite contacts to meetings as well as returning invitations.



    After that - let's be able to see what meetings a certain contact is connected to (which goes for Leopard to by the way!!!)



    Also in my 3.0 beta I can't find the Notifications-settings.



    But I guess it's like with learning - the more you know the more you understand what you don't know. It's easy to see the missing function on a product like the iPhone - because it has so much but not everything and there is so many possibilities!
  • Reply 23 of 71
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    Originally Posted by striker_kk View Post


    Its there Buddy!!



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by teckstud View Post


    Ok then it must be different for an iPod Touch. I've never seen the plug-in icon nor the "Usage" in the settings.









    I don't know? I don't have a Touch, just iPhone.

    That would be cool if it had a percent charged on the home when hooked up, maybe a, time till 100%,
  • Reply 24 of 71
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    Originally Posted by rdhaag View Post


    I also hope the data detectors work in the calendar for phone numbers. I have conference calls I need to be on through out the week and having those become links to just touch would be amazing. I am very excited about all the updates Apple is putting into iPhone OS 3.0 and look forward to the launch date.



    I can confirm that phone numbers in calendar entries are clickonable, and pop up the 'Call' dialog window. I created an appointment in Outlook for an Exchange account that I have the phone set to connect to, and it came through nicely.
  • Reply 25 of 71
    teckstudteckstud Posts: 6,476member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by striker_kk View Post


    Its there Buddy!!



    Where is "Usage" in the settings?
  • Reply 26 of 71
    The calendar is one of those things that feels clunky to me. It is way better than my old phone, don?t get me wrong, it just takes a lot of work to use. Most things I have ideas for an improvement. But in this case I am not sure how one could make it easier to use.

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  • Reply 27 of 71
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by teckstud View Post


    Where is "Usage" in the settings?





    Go to "Settings" then to "General" then to "Usage"
  • Reply 28 of 71
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by teckstud View Post


    Where is "Usage" in the settings?



    Settings>>General>Usage..
  • Reply 29 of 71
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,953member
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    Originally Posted by wizard69 View Post


    Seriously; the current iPhone may be the best one out there but it needs speed and or fluidity improvements more than anything else except possibly better battery life. It is likely the only way we will get such is via new hardware. So dwell all you want on minor features, I want to hear about code for suspected new hardware.



    We can't hear about them until someone finds it and reports it. These stories are reporting on what have been found. It's a pretty big system, iPhone OS 2 is about a quarter of a gigabyte, that's a lot to dig through.



    I don't know how much code designed for new hardware can be triggered on existing hardware. They did find audio and video trimming tools. They may well be holding back certain modules or apps that would tip their hand if it was put into the beta.
  • Reply 30 of 71
    teckstudteckstud Posts: 6,476member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by striker_kk View Post


    Settings>>General>Usage..



    I swear I do not have "usage" in settings on my iPod Touch.

    I have:

    About

    Wallpaper

    Sounds

    Network

    locations svcs

    Auto-lock

    passcode lock

    restrictions

    Date & Time

    Keyboard

    International

    Reset



    Where is "Usage"?
  • Reply 31 of 71
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by teckstud View Post


    I swear I do not have "usage" in settings on my iPod Touch.

    I have:

    About

    Wallpaper

    Sounds

    Network

    locations svcs

    Auto-lock

    passcode lock

    restrictions

    Date & Time

    Keyboard

    International

    Reset



    Where is "Usage"?



    Try under "About" since it is not a phone it may have a slight location modification?



    It should say,



    "Time since last full charge"



    Usage 1 hour, 12 Minutes

    Standby 2 Hours, 55 Minutes



    "Call Time"



    XXXXX

    XXXXX



    "Cellular Network Date"



    XXXXX

    XXXXX
  • Reply 32 of 71
    virgil-tb2virgil-tb2 Posts: 1,416member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by wizard69 View Post


    Seriously; the current iPhone may be the best one out there but it needs speed and or fluidity improvements more than anything else except possibly better battery life. It is likely the only way we will get such is via new hardware. So dwell all you want on minor features, I want to hear about code for suspected new hardware.



    Ok I'd like to also hear about improvements to Safari and other apps. Mainly because of this fear that the upgraded hardware coming later this year won't be the big improvement we are all hoping for. That is the hardware won't be compelling in an economic downturn. Especially after the non iMac upgrade earlier this year which makes one wonder if Apple intends to good through the recession. ...



    I'm also more interested in the hardware myself, but I suspect it's just because we haven't heard so much about it as we have the software.



    Interestingly, there are "leaks" about on the net these last few days about the new Zune hardware which would put the current iPhone to shame in a couple of categories, but the first thing one thinks of when reading them is that even though the hardware sounds good, it will still be running Windows Mobile and will still probably suck big time as a result. It just proves that the software really *is* the main driver of these kinds of devices regardless of how juicy the next iPhone hardware revision might end up being.



    As for Safari, I am hoping for a complete revision of the UI although nothing so far indicates Apple is thinking of that.



    I do find it ironic that Apple was willing to get so radical with the Safari 4.0 beta for the desktop just to reduce the excess pixel space, but not much has been done much in that regard for mobile Safari which arguably needs it more. They recently combined the Google bar with the address bar to save a bit of space, but the whole arrangement still takes up way too much space and there is no full-screen view either. The information in the address/search/title bar at the top of the screen takes up aproximately 13/100ths of an inch, but the space used to display it is just over 30/100ths. If you further assume that having the page title hanging at the top of the screen 24/7 is a waste of space, then the ratio is precisely 3 to 1 which is a bit ridiculous.



    Additionally, since the entire Palm WebOS is basically a copy of the way in which mobile Safari handles web pages, I'd like to see Apple make Safari more of a centrepiece app in the same way and handle the transitions in a similar fashion. Knowing more explicitly what "cards" (webpages) you have open and easily switching between them (without having to re-load each time) would go a long way towards making mobile Safari less painful and perhaps even useful.



    At the moment, I find that I use iPhone apps like Google, Wikipanion etc. almost exclusively, just so as to avoid having to open the browser unless I absolutely have to. It's slow, and it's very difficult to tell what is actually happening when you are using it. Are you loading the page you originally clicked on? Or is it now loading some link that you inadvertently touched while trying to zoom in on a page while it slowly, slowly loads? Who knows? I sure don't half the time.



    Having used a lot of Palms in my life I would never buy one again, but the way in which the Palm pre handles the web looks to be a far superior experience IMO to mobile Safari. The pre should be considered a serious competitor to the coming "3.0" version of the iPhone and if Apple doesn't get out in front of it they will look pretty foolish. I expect the new iPhone to be a lot faster than the pre, but speed doesn't cover off the (apparently) increased usability of pre's Web browser and the deep integration it has in the OS (it basically *is* the OS).
  • Reply 33 of 71
    teckstudteckstud Posts: 6,476member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MissionGrey View Post


    Try under "About" since it is not a phone it may have a slight location modification?



    It should say,



    "Time since last full charge"



    Usage 1 hour, 12 Minutes

    Standby 2 Hours, 55 Minutes



    "Call Time"



    XXXXX

    XXXXX



    "Cellular Network Date"



    XXXXX

    XXXXX





    Not at all-it must not be a feature on the Touch and that's why I asked for it. Maybe that too will change with 3.0.

    About on the Touch shows:



    Songs

    Videos

    Photos

    Capacity

    Available

    Version

    Serial Number

    Model

    WiFI Adress

    Legal
  • Reply 34 of 71
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rdhaag View Post


    I also hope the data detectors work in the calendar for phone numbers. I have conference calls I need to be on through out the week and having those become links to just touch would be amazing. I am very excited about all the updates Apple is putting into iPhone OS 3.0 and look forward to the launch date.



    In complete agreement. I will often put an address as 'Location' in an iCal appointment and it would be great if by tapping on that would bring up the Maps.app - can't be that hard. I have already submitted this feature request via Apple feedback pages, I suggest you do the same.



    I would also like Data Detectors very much in Safari (both mobile and desktop) as often there are details on a web page that I would like to set as an appointment or quickly view the date in iCal, or add someone's details to address book.



    This functionality feels close now that the above is mentioned, I just hope they follow through with it.
  • Reply 35 of 71
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by magpie3d View Post


    I can confirm that phone numbers in calendar entries are clickonable, and pop up the 'Call' dialog window. I created an appointment in Outlook for an Exchange account that I have the phone set to connect to, and it came through nicely.



    Thank you for confirming this. Are you able to see if you can click on an address in the 'Location' field to bring up the Maps.app? Thanks!



    Also - any idea if the Data Detectors appear in Safari at all?
  • Reply 36 of 71
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by teckstud View Post


    Not at all-it must not be a feature on the Touch and that's why I asked for it. Maybe that too will change with 3.0.

    About on the Touch shows:



    Songs

    Videos

    Photos

    Capacity

    Available

    Version

    Serial Number

    Model

    WiFI Adress

    Legal





    I don't know. Does your Touch when plugged in show the charging icon in the top right hand corner? That changes to a plug like a laptop does when fully charged?





    Maybe they will do a color coded charge set up, red yellow green when fully charged?
  • Reply 37 of 71
    pg4gpg4g Posts: 383member
    Just letting you guys know, the new Data Detectors is an API. Apple has allowed developers to activate some or all data detectors on text fields etc.



    I'd expect Data Detectors therefore to become quite system wide.
  • Reply 38 of 71
    teckstudteckstud Posts: 6,476member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MissionGrey View Post


    I don't know. Does your Touch when plugged in show the charging icon in the top right hand corner? That changes to a plug like a laptop does when fully charged?





    Maybe they will do a color coded charge set up, red yellow green when fully charged?



    No plug- it just shows a tiny white battery icon on the top right who's white color inside eventually dissipates depending on the charge.

    Again that's why 3.0's indicators will be very helpful for the Touch.
  • Reply 39 of 71
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by teckstud View Post


    No plug- it just shows a tiny white battery icon on the top right who's white color eventually dissipates depending on the charge. Again that why 3.0's indicators will be very helpful.





    Sorry man, don't know what to tell you.



    Does anyone else here have a Touch?
  • Reply 40 of 71
    macshackmacshack Posts: 103member
    What would be handy if a name is in an email or text message that you can press it and if the name appears in your address book to ask if you want to call that person. And also if you receive a picture from somebody and it can recognize faces.
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