Jaguar is ridiculously better. Get it. iCal, iSync, iChat, plus lots of apps are starting to require it. Just get it. Carracho Server doesn't crash anymore either!
Assuming you can afford it GET IT. It is always good to keep your computer up to date and even if you dont use a single additional feature you will benefit from your computer being a little faster and more efficient.
Thanks to everyone who responded to my first post. I must say that after reading the replies I am more tempted now to move to 10.2 from 10.1.5.
However,I notice that one post suggested that IMac 500 G3 users chime in on their experiences with 10.2. Although there were lots of 10.2-positive posts after that, it was not clear whether these users were in the G3 situation (which is my situation). I guess I'd like to see the views of G3 users first, if possible, before making my final decision.
My ultimate fear is that I actually will not find 10.2 more useful and that it may not work as well on my less powerful machine than does 10.1.5. I am a fairly novice user and I do not want to screw up my machine.
<strong>Thanks to everyone who responded to my first post. I must say that after reading the replies I am more tempted now to move to 10.2 from 10.1.5.
However,I notice that one post suggested that IMac 500 G3 users chime in on their experiences with 10.2. Although there were lots of 10.2-positive posts after that, it was not clear whether these users were in the G3 situation (which is my situation). I guess I'd like to see the views of G3 users first, if possible, before making my final decision.
My ultimate fear is that I actually will not find 10.2 more useful and that it may not work as well on my less powerful machine than does 10.1.5. I am a fairly novice user and I do not want to screw up my machine.
Thanks again to all who posted.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I've got a G3 (iBook). Like I said before, Jaguar's sped up my iBook nicely. It's definately worth the money IMO.
I've got a G3 (iBook). Like I said before, Jaguar's sped up my iBook nicely. It's definately worth the money IMO.</strong><hr></blockquote>
The iBook has always been slower than the iMac, so if it's OK on an iBook I imagine it's OK on an iMac. It is faster on the same hardware in any case, it's just a matter of being 5% faster, or maybe 15% faster than OS X 10.1.x (just my estimate.)
NO one mentioned the new search capabilitie of 10.2x
Makes things on me much easier.
oh and 10.2.3 fixes/impoves the type-go powers in sheets. which is a must if you're saving/openning to the hundreds of files/folders
And also important is the scroll wheel adapations to a new better carbon finder.
And the better get-info. Stupid permission bugs be gone.
The list goes on for daily impovements in your GUI-navigating.
Anyway, unless you want to buy a new mac in the near future, upgrading now isn't that bad because it's the little old and a little new things that puts you back in the flow of things that we know as MacOS.
Ok everyone is rating )SX10.2, yeah its good but whats with the fonts? Font smoothing on my formac 17" looks blurred, there should be an option to turn this off or at least have a higher font setting to turn font smoothing off. the highest i can get it to go is 12 points which still leaves me with blurred fonts, if someone can tell me if theres a way o add higher font sizes to the list is sys prefs then ill say OSX is worth it but untill that happens im using OS9.2 because i can read the fonts without ruining my eyes.
3) Press cmd-f and get a finder that launches in a second.
4) Rather than Sherlock, which heaves itself off the the hard-drive like an arthritic. (Quicker to find your data yourself.)
5) Finder optimised (resize / open windows with a smile)
6) Text-smoothing without a hack.
The latter is quite wonderful if you ever surf the net or use Word (and I do both all day long.)
Now I'm running 10.2.3 and I SWEAR those windows are amazingly rapid to open.
The difference it made was really important to me but I sit in front of an LCD all day, every working day, so my needs could well be different to yours.
I upgrade installed Jaguar over 10.1.5, and it runs fine. I would really recommend getting it, as it makes the Finder lots faster. Also, you get other cool stuff, like iChat and iCal, too.
I've been using 10.2 since release with experience on the following machines:
Beige G3 - Upgraded to 400 mhz
iMac DV/400
Powerbook G3/400
Each improved with 10.2. It is quite usable on the beige box and is now my dad's primary computer. The iMac runs very well but could use a hard drive upgrade that would improve the situation dramatically. The Powerbook G3 runs 10.2 the best. It is very similar to the iMac in specs but has a newer hard drive (IBM Travelstar 40 GB, 4200 RPM).
I highly recommend upgrading to 10.2. It makes networking with Windows boxes much easier. It improves printing dramatically. It is faster overall and this is more noticeable on older machines such as yours and the ones I've mentioned above.
I have to agree with the assertion that 10.2.3 is the best release. Be sure to D/L the combo update to 10.2.3.
<strong> Is there any reason I need or want OS X Jaguar?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Hehe, if you are happy now, then don't make the jump... you might just slide by until 10.3/Panther...
However, if the iChat, Adressbook, and Mail additions, as well as Quartz extreme strike your fancy, you can upgrade for around $98.
But again, those choices are yours. If you are happy, then you won't really become much more happy... you need to wait for pain and discomfort to set in before removing those scars can cause joy... <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
When Jaguar first came out I was incredibly interested, just because I enjoy playing with the system. All those wonderful new things to try.
Then I found out the price was $200 canadian, or $129 american. I had to wait. I finally found it for $50 bucks in a Bargainfinder... I don't question the source, but it was in the box, and it was the original CD's.
Of course, I am glad I have my machine up to date. Apple doesn't make adjustments on system software they are no longer 'supporting' (when was the last time OS9 got an upgrade, hm?) Even with some of the more klunkier moments (which I am over now, thank goodness) the upgrade has proven stable and worthwhile.
Personally, Chinney, my fellow (if Eastern) Canadian, I would make the upgrade. My reasoning would be that you should become familiar with how the system operates, all it's new oddities and methods, before whatever software you use requires you to upgrade the system. Besides... then you can read AppleInsider's MacOSX forum and have what people are talking about (software wise) on your desk.
OK, here I am - many months later - and after midnight tonight - and I finally did it! I just today received and installed 10.2 (update install) and most everything seems to be fine.
One minor hiccup is that everthing in Apple "Mail" is now double spaced (message text and message list). Maybe there is a simple switch to turn this off, but I have not found it yet.
In any case, I am happy to have upgraded (I think). My system does seem a bit 'snappier'. And I hope that this move to 10.2 solves a couple of niggling problems I had in 10.1.5. Of course, based on some of the posts I have seen on Jaguar, I may run into a few new ones as well. But at least these will be more advanced problems befitting a more advanced operating system (Just teasing, I hope)
I can't believe you have just done it. Don't you know that 10.3 will be out soon and you will have to pay an upgrade fee. If you've been prepared to wait this long you might as well have waited another 2 months to get Panther. There are rumours that the finder has been re-written and that the whole user experiance will take a leap forward.
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Seriously, why are people like you (Mac Man) so hesitant to make the upgrade? If the $130 is not an issue, then what is?
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I don't need to have the latest OS. 10.1.5 works just fine, and I'll get 10.2 when I get a new computer
Having the latest and greatest isn't on my list of priorities.
Barto
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I don't need to have the latest OS. 10.1.5 works just fine, and I'll get 10.2 when I get a new computer
Having the latest and greatest isn't on my list of priorities.
Barto</strong><hr></blockquote>
Nicely put Barto! I agree.
Sorry for lashing out so harshly at the top, apologies to EmAn.
[ 12-21-2002: Message edited by: Mac Man 020581 ]</p>
However,I notice that one post suggested that IMac 500 G3 users chime in on their experiences with 10.2. Although there were lots of 10.2-positive posts after that, it was not clear whether these users were in the G3 situation (which is my situation). I guess I'd like to see the views of G3 users first, if possible, before making my final decision.
My ultimate fear is that I actually will not find 10.2 more useful and that it may not work as well on my less powerful machine than does 10.1.5. I am a fairly novice user and I do not want to screw up my machine.
Thanks again to all who posted.
<strong>Thanks to everyone who responded to my first post. I must say that after reading the replies I am more tempted now to move to 10.2 from 10.1.5.
However,I notice that one post suggested that IMac 500 G3 users chime in on their experiences with 10.2. Although there were lots of 10.2-positive posts after that, it was not clear whether these users were in the G3 situation (which is my situation). I guess I'd like to see the views of G3 users first, if possible, before making my final decision.
My ultimate fear is that I actually will not find 10.2 more useful and that it may not work as well on my less powerful machine than does 10.1.5. I am a fairly novice user and I do not want to screw up my machine.
Thanks again to all who posted.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I've got a G3 (iBook). Like I said before, Jaguar's sped up my iBook nicely. It's definately worth the money IMO.
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I've got a G3 (iBook). Like I said before, Jaguar's sped up my iBook nicely. It's definately worth the money IMO.</strong><hr></blockquote>
The iBook has always been slower than the iMac, so if it's OK on an iBook I imagine it's OK on an iMac. It is faster on the same hardware in any case, it's just a matter of being 5% faster, or maybe 15% faster than OS X 10.1.x (just my estimate.)
Just one thing, do not to an update install. It'll be like running 10.1 performance-wise. Do an archive and install.
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Just one thing, do not to an update install. It'll be like running 10.1 performance-wise. Do an archive and install.</strong><hr></blockquote>
That's not true. My performance is much better than in 10.1 and I did an update.
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Just one thing, do not to an update install. It'll be like running 10.1 performance-wise. Do an archive and install.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Rubbish! I did both. No difference. In fact I think update was just fine.
Makes things on me much easier.
oh and 10.2.3 fixes/impoves the type-go powers in sheets. which is a must if you're saving/openning to the hundreds of files/folders
And also important is the scroll wheel adapations to a new better carbon finder.
And the better get-info. Stupid permission bugs be gone.
The list goes on for daily impovements in your GUI-navigating.
Anyway, unless you want to buy a new mac in the near future, upgrading now isn't that bad because it's the little old and a little new things that puts you back in the flow of things that we know as MacOS.
~Kuku
1) Springloaded folders.
2) The groovy search thingy in the toolbar.
3) Press cmd-f and get a finder that launches in a second.
4) Rather than Sherlock, which heaves itself off the the hard-drive like an arthritic. (Quicker to find your data yourself.)
5) Finder optimised (resize / open windows with a smile)
6) Text-smoothing without a hack.
The latter is quite wonderful if you ever surf the net or use Word (and I do both all day long.)
Now I'm running 10.2.3 and I SWEAR those windows are amazingly rapid to open.
The difference it made was really important to me but I sit in front of an LCD all day, every working day, so my needs could well be different to yours.
I upgrade installed Jaguar over 10.1.5, and it runs fine. I would really recommend getting it, as it makes the Finder lots faster. Also, you get other cool stuff, like iChat and iCal, too.
I've been using 10.2 since release with experience on the following machines:
Beige G3 - Upgraded to 400 mhz
iMac DV/400
Powerbook G3/400
Each improved with 10.2. It is quite usable on the beige box and is now my dad's primary computer. The iMac runs very well but could use a hard drive upgrade that would improve the situation dramatically. The Powerbook G3 runs 10.2 the best. It is very similar to the iMac in specs but has a newer hard drive (IBM Travelstar 40 GB, 4200 RPM).
I highly recommend upgrading to 10.2. It makes networking with Windows boxes much easier. It improves printing dramatically. It is faster overall and this is more noticeable on older machines such as yours and the ones I've mentioned above.
I have to agree with the assertion that 10.2.3 is the best release. Be sure to D/L the combo update to 10.2.3.
Hope this helps,
na
<strong> Is there any reason I need or want OS X Jaguar?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Hehe, if you are happy now, then don't make the jump... you might just slide by until 10.3/Panther...
However, if the iChat, Adressbook, and Mail additions, as well as Quartz extreme strike your fancy, you can upgrade for around $98.
But again, those choices are yours. If you are happy, then you won't really become much more happy... you need to wait for pain and discomfort to set in before removing those scars can cause joy... <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
Then I found out the price was $200 canadian, or $129 american. I had to wait. I finally found it for $50 bucks in a Bargainfinder... I don't question the source, but it was in the box, and it was the original CD's.
Of course, I am glad I have my machine up to date. Apple doesn't make adjustments on system software they are no longer 'supporting' (when was the last time OS9 got an upgrade, hm?) Even with some of the more klunkier moments (which I am over now, thank goodness) the upgrade has proven stable and worthwhile.
Personally, Chinney, my fellow (if Eastern) Canadian, I would make the upgrade. My reasoning would be that you should become familiar with how the system operates, all it's new oddities and methods, before whatever software you use requires you to upgrade the system. Besides... then you can read AppleInsider's MacOSX forum and have what people are talking about (software wise) on your desk.
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That's not true. My performance is much better than in 10.1 and I did an update.</strong><hr></blockquote>
That's my personal experience. Archive and Installing sped my iMac up quite a bit.
Update has done a lot of bad things to a lot of people, just more safe to Archive and Install.
One minor hiccup is that everthing in Apple "Mail" is now double spaced (message text and message list). Maybe there is a simple switch to turn this off, but I have not found it yet.
In any case, I am happy to have upgraded (I think). My system does seem a bit 'snappier'. And I hope that this move to 10.2 solves a couple of niggling problems I had in 10.1.5. Of course, based on some of the posts I have seen on Jaguar, I may run into a few new ones as well. But at least these will be more advanced problems befitting a more advanced operating system (Just teasing, I hope)