Of course. That's the way it should be, given how thoroughly they say they inspect their stuff.
I honestly don't understand where society has manufactured the idea that anything "used" must immediately be equated with "junk".
It is used car salesmen...they sell absolute loads of shit as "great in town cars that were only used by granny for church"
If a 12 year old car has 3000 miles on it, I garen-friggen-tee it has been rolled over...but most dealers would tell you otherwise, hense why there is a market for services like Carfax.
Evreybody has been burned by a used car dealer at least once...assuming they own/opperate motor vehicles
I find it quite curious how the system requirements stated for the wireless is that I will need an existing keyboard for setup. That has to be a mistake.
NOPE. that's true with current wireless keyboard and mice... that's why they don't ship with wireless
WRONG! Bought one with my mac pro and it set up just fine.
you might have so. but the requirements are still that you need a wired keyboard and mouse. so they won't ship a computer with a wireless one when their own requirements say otherwise.
Agreed. These are fine systems for doing 90% of the market needs.
The Pro Machines are for the 10% of the Markets.
Now, when they offer future Cinema's, Mac Pros and OpenGL 2.1 GPUs for CAD/CAM and FEM Modeling, etc., then I'll know Apple really wants the Engineering/SIGGRAPH/ParticlePhysics, etc., Government/University/etc., Commercial/Research markets.
These machines are a great update.
The FW800 is a great addition for these machines.
I buy Game Consoles for Games.
No, they are good for about for 50-60% of the market. The other 30-40% Apple refuses to even acknowledge they exist because they don't quite conform to the slightly screwed up vision that Steve Jobs has of what the computer industry is.
As for the going to buy a console instead, how many times do I have to say that console and computer gaming are NOT the same thing? It's like telling a bunch of baseball players to go play soccer instead.
Yeah, the iMac used to come with a great little software bundle, now it comes with none. It seems like the deal keeps getting a little worse every time out.
Let me get this streight, mac koolaid drinkers bitch at Dell for shipping bundleware, and bitch because apple DOESNT bundle third party apps? Give me a friggen break!
Office demo, nanusour, Quicken AOL, Earthlink ect that came on my mac a few years ago were nothing more than disk hogs...screw bundleware.
you might have so. but the requirements are still that you need a wired keyboard and mouse. so they won't ship a computer with a wireless one when their own requirements say otherwise.
Dude, I went to the apple store and configured it with a wireless keyboard and mouse and that is exactly what they shipped to me.
Let me get this streight, mac koolaid drinkers bitch at Dell for shipping bundleware, and bitch because apple DOESNT bundle third party apps? Give me a friggen break!
Office demo, nanusour, Quicken AOL, Earthlink ect that came on my mac a few years ago were nothing more than disk hogs...screw bundleware.
The Appleworks suite, quicken, and bundled game that came with my iBook were pretty useful.
Why would you max out the ram when its super easy to replace now and you can save about a hundred bucks getting it from newegg or crutial?
Admittedly an impulse buy. My iMac G5 died about five months ago so I've been waiting and waiting and waiting for this new one. I also figurd that I really wouldn't have saved a whole lot since I'd end up with an extra gig of memory by following your strategy. I haven't done the math, but is it really that much of a savings? And not that I have a lot of money to throw around, but it wasn't worth the time to me to deal with it.
Admittedly an impulse buy. My iMac G5 died about five months ago so I've been waiting and waiting and waiting for this new one. I also figurd that I really wouldn't have saved a whole lot since I'd end up with an extra gig of memory by following your strategy. I haven't done the math, but is it really that much of a savings? And not that I have a lot of money to throw around, but it wasn't worth the time to me to deal with it.
thats where apple makes $$$ from RAM, i always preferred to order RAM from apple store or store where i get my mac, geez i do not like to open new box and install RAM and then screw the whole system...
20" $1299
with 2GB RAM
and
500 GB HDD the base model goes to $1499, it is still expensive, will wait for some promotion for RAM or $100 from amazon or thanks giving day
Apple on Tuesday unveiled its new line of iMac all-in-one desktops, featuring 20- and 24-inch widescreen displays encased in elegant and professional aluminum and glass enclosures.
Everything was absolutely beautiful and what a note to end on, i.e., Steve's answer to one of the analysts question, "Is Apple’s goal to overtake the PC in market share?"
Jobs said, “Our goal is to make the best personal computers in the world and make products we are proud to sell and recommend to our family and friends. We want to do that at the lowest prices we can.
“But there’s some stuff in our industry that we wouldn’t be proud to ship. And we just can’t do it. We can’t ship junk,” said Jobs. “There are thresholds we can’t cross because of who we are. And we think that there’s a very significant slice of the [market] that wants that too. You’ll find that our products are not premium priced. You price out our competitors’ products, and add features that actually make them useful, and they’re the same or actually more expensive. We don’t offer stripped-down, lousy products.” (http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/08...vent/index.php)
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Of course. That's the way it should be, given how thoroughly they say they inspect their stuff.
I honestly don't understand where society has manufactured the idea that anything "used" must immediately be equated with "junk".
It is used car salesmen...they sell absolute loads of shit as "great in town cars that were only used by granny for church"
If a 12 year old car has 3000 miles on it, I garen-friggen-tee it has been rolled over...but most dealers would tell you otherwise, hense why there is a market for services like Carfax.
Evreybody has been burned by a used car dealer at least once...assuming they own/opperate motor vehicles
www.apple.com/keyboard/
I find it quite curious how the system requirements stated for the wireless is that I will need an existing keyboard for setup. That has to be a mistake.
NOPE. that's true with current wireless keyboard and mice... that's why they don't ship with wireless
NOPE. that's true with current wireless keyboard and mice... that's why they don't ship with wireless
WRONG! Bought one with my mac pro, it came in the box and it set up just fine.
WRONG! Bought one with my mac pro and it set up just fine.
you might have so. but the requirements are still that you need a wired keyboard and mouse. so they won't ship a computer with a wireless one when their own requirements say otherwise.
Agreed. These are fine systems for doing 90% of the market needs.
The Pro Machines are for the 10% of the Markets.
Now, when they offer future Cinema's, Mac Pros and OpenGL 2.1 GPUs for CAD/CAM and FEM Modeling, etc., then I'll know Apple really wants the Engineering/SIGGRAPH/ParticlePhysics, etc., Government/University/etc., Commercial/Research markets.
These machines are a great update.
The FW800 is a great addition for these machines.
I buy Game Consoles for Games.
No, they are good for about for 50-60% of the market. The other 30-40% Apple refuses to even acknowledge they exist because they don't quite conform to the slightly screwed up vision that Steve Jobs has of what the computer industry is.
As for the going to buy a console instead, how many times do I have to say that console and computer gaming are NOT the same thing? It's like telling a bunch of baseball players to go play soccer instead.
Yeah, the iMac used to come with a great little software bundle, now it comes with none. It seems like the deal keeps getting a little worse every time out.
Let me get this streight, mac koolaid drinkers bitch at Dell for shipping bundleware, and bitch because apple DOESNT bundle third party apps? Give me a friggen break!
Office demo, nanusour, Quicken AOL, Earthlink ect that came on my mac a few years ago were nothing more than disk hogs...screw bundleware.
They have a nice new keyboard, in both wired and wireless, but NO MATCHING MOUSE!
Did I miss the mouse somewhere?
I'd hate to have an "old white mouse" with all the other nice new stuff.
iMac, 24-inch, Intel Core 2 Duo
SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
4GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM - 2x2GB
Accessory kit
Built-in Display
320GB Serial ATA Drive
2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Apple Wireless Keyboard (English) + Mac OS X
Apple wireless Mighty Mouse
Not crazy about the 3-5 weeks for shipping though.
you might have so. but the requirements are still that you need a wired keyboard and mouse. so they won't ship a computer with a wireless one when their own requirements say otherwise.
Dude, I went to the apple store and configured it with a wireless keyboard and mouse and that is exactly what they shipped to me.
iMac, 24-inch, Intel Core 2 Duo
SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
4GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM - 2x2GB
Accessory kit
Built-in Display
320GB Serial ATA Drive
2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Apple Wireless Keyboard (English) + Mac OS X
Apple wireless Mighty Mouse
Not crazy about the 3-5 weeks for shipping though.
Why would you max out the ram when its super easy to replace now and you can save about a hundred bucks getting it from newegg or crutial?
Let me get this streight, mac koolaid drinkers bitch at Dell for shipping bundleware, and bitch because apple DOESNT bundle third party apps? Give me a friggen break!
Office demo, nanusour, Quicken AOL, Earthlink ect that came on my mac a few years ago were nothing more than disk hogs...screw bundleware.
The Appleworks suite, quicken, and bundled game that came with my iBook were pretty useful.
Why would you max out the ram when its super easy to replace now and you can save about a hundred bucks getting it from newegg or crutial?
$70 actually and its top of the line name brand stuff.
you can go to the apple store and buy whatever you want. but a standard apple computer doesn't ship with a wireless apple keyboard.
built to order does not equal ship with
Not crazy about the 3-5 weeks for shipping though.
It seems to be the wireless keyboard which does that. Simply adding RAM or HD doesn't increase ship time for me.
Why would you max out the ram when its super easy to replace now and you can save about a hundred bucks getting it from newegg or crutial?
Admittedly an impulse buy. My iMac G5 died about five months ago so I've been waiting and waiting and waiting for this new one. I also figurd that I really wouldn't have saved a whole lot since I'd end up with an extra gig of memory by following your strategy. I haven't done the math, but is it really that much of a savings? And not that I have a lot of money to throw around, but it wasn't worth the time to me to deal with it.
Admittedly an impulse buy. My iMac G5 died about five months ago so I've been waiting and waiting and waiting for this new one. .
you G5 died already?
my G4 is still going.. i hope it doesn't die on me. i don't want these new computers
Admittedly an impulse buy. My iMac G5 died about five months ago so I've been waiting and waiting and waiting for this new one. I also figurd that I really wouldn't have saved a whole lot since I'd end up with an extra gig of memory by following your strategy. I haven't done the math, but is it really that much of a savings? And not that I have a lot of money to throw around, but it wasn't worth the time to me to deal with it.
thats where apple makes $$$ from RAM, i always preferred to order RAM from apple store or store where i get my mac, geez i do not like to open new box and install RAM and then screw the whole system...
20" $1299
with 2GB RAM
and
500 GB HDD the base model goes to $1499, it is still expensive, will wait for some promotion for RAM or $100 from amazon or thanks giving day
Apple on Tuesday unveiled its new line of iMac all-in-one desktops, featuring 20- and 24-inch widescreen displays encased in elegant and professional aluminum and glass enclosures.
Everything was absolutely beautiful and what a note to end on, i.e., Steve's answer to one of the analysts question, "Is Apple’s goal to overtake the PC in market share?"
Jobs said, “Our goal is to make the best personal computers in the world and make products we are proud to sell and recommend to our family and friends. We want to do that at the lowest prices we can.
“But there’s some stuff in our industry that we wouldn’t be proud to ship. And we just can’t do it. We can’t ship junk,” said Jobs. “There are thresholds we can’t cross because of who we are. And we think that there’s a very significant slice of the [market] that wants that too. You’ll find that our products are not premium priced. You price out our competitors’ products, and add features that actually make them useful, and they’re the same or actually more expensive. We don’t offer stripped-down, lousy products.” (http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/08...vent/index.php)