2) Sony, apparently, refuses to allow adult content on blu-ray... or at least... they will have no part in manufacturing of such content. Which is understandable, but like it or not, the adult market brings in significantly more money than the mainstream market. Something like 15 billion a year? Like it or not, you can't ignore the adult market.
Where have you been? Digital Playground are going full steam ahead with blu ray titles. And Vivid Entertainment already has some titles on Blu Ray.
Yeah, Blu-Ray is more advanced than HD-DVD. The main advantage is significantly greater storage capacity. The second is freedom from MS's influence on the product.
Google "blu-ray adult sony". Sony's stance is a little confusing... which was why I used the word "apparently". Do some googling to find out more. In any case, FWIW... sounds like the adult industry has settled on HD-DVD.
I think the question was where you got the $15B figure. I couldn't find that. Googling those keywords found that your claim of no Blu-Ray porn to be wrong in about half the top ten hits. I think the original story was stretched to look like something that it wasn't.
I don't think porn will be a big influence this time around anyway. There's a question as to whether there's even a proportionate demand for HD porn, because that puts a demand on appearance, the arguments I read is that porn watchers don't want to see all the flaws. There's also competition with the internet.
Forget it... the war is over: the Japanese porn industry (which is huge) has decided to go with BluRay, with or without Sony. There is a Taiwanese connection (perhaps more than one ).
Sony Japan does not allow its own duplication house to work with porn, but other divisions that focus on making films can help any industry, thus the confusion.
Advanced or not, frankly I'm unimpressed with Blu-Ray. I saw a demo on an HDTV at a Best Buy that looked pretty bad. It appears either the screen or the disc compression leave a lot of visual strobing in scenes with fast movement. I couldn't stand it.
There's only one movie that I know of that has strobing and that's Planet Earth. I think it's in all three formats.
I've not really seen a very good display of HD DVD or Blu-Ray in a retail store, or really of any other format. It's probably a setup issue.
Advanced or not, frankly I'm unimpressed with Blu-Ray. I saw a demo on an HDTV at a Best Buy that looked pretty bad. It appears either the screen or the disc compression leave a lot of visual strobing in scenes with fast movement. I couldn't stand it.
Admittedly I don't know a great deal about Blu-ray authoring, however I can tell you from my experience there is a huge variance in the levels of quality in HD content. Some of the the stuff you see on cable or Direct TV is crap compared to the official Sony demo disc which is simply pristine.
But aside from that, if you are expecting zero compression artifacts, it is just not part of the equation with 1080i. There are going to be some pixels, but when you step away from the screen a couple meters, it looks pretty decent.
I think the question was where you got the $15B figure.
Yes, such a big number strikes to say the least.
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I don't think porn will be a big influence this time around anyway. There's a question as to whether there's even a proportionate demand for HD porn, because that puts a demand on appearance, the arguments I read is that porn watchers don't want to see all the flaws. There's also competition with the internet.
I never thought about that before. Not that it affects me in any way, but what you say about imperfections being much more pronounced through HD, must be something serious to consider in this context, for obvious reasons I would not like to talk about now.
Apple will do whatever makes most sense for Apple, not for Blu-Ray or HD-DVD. Right now the format war is still far from over, Paramount will still only support HD-DVD a year from now under the terms of their deal and Blu-Ray still has a 3:2 lead since that deal was done. So most of those of us who do care about high-def DVD will continue to sit it out rather than risk losing lots of money on the wrong format. So how many people would pay extra for an iMac/Macbook that supports one format or the other? Not enough.
The best thing Apple could do is bring out a new Apple TV with a dual format high-def DVD drive, at a reasonable price i.e. the price of a PS3 rather than current dual format players. That's something I'd buy and I reckon a lot of others would too. If they were planning such a device then it might explain how they've been able to get a deal on movie rentals, considering how unsuccessful Apple TV has been to date.
I never thought about that before. Not that it affects me in any way, but what you say about imperfections being much more pronounced through HD, must be something serious to consider in this context, for obvious reasons I would not like to talk about now.
Aw c'mon, don't you wanna see the acne, tattoos and c-section scars in their true HD glory?
The actual figure could be higher and probably is, though some sites say it is only 10 billion, though this site links (dead link) to a forbes article that said in 2001 that the industry was worth 14 billion:
If it's true the only computer they would introduce it in is obviously the Mac Pro. There is no other computer they make that could fit an affordable Blu Ray player in it. Just like when they introduced DVD-R (actually DVD-RAM) drives. The new Superdrive.
As satchmo and I pointed out, HP announced a desktop today for $949 that plays both formats. The drives aren't that expensive.
There's a question as to whether there's even a proportionate demand for HD porn, because that puts a demand on appearance, the arguments I read is that porn watchers don't want to see all the flaws.
I wouldn't think porn viewers would care that much. Porn is cheap, HD-DVD is cheap, looks like a perfect match. But whatever floats your boat. Personally I was never very attracted to the sleaze look to begin with. Maybe a little pixelization would help cover up the flaws in the acting.
Yeah, Blu-Ray is more advanced than HD-DVD. The main advantage is significantly greater storage capacity. The second is freedom from MS's influence on the product.
And being under Sony's influence is a whole lot better- right?
I never thought about that before. Not that it affects me in any way, but what you say about imperfections being much more pronounced through HD, must be something serious to consider in this context, for obvious reasons I would not like to talk about now.
Porn HD DVD will kill Blu-Ray like Porn VHS killed Beta.
I know what is tattoos, but acne and c-section scars I do not. English is not my mother tongue.
Ah. I didn't get that impression.
Acne are skin blemishes caused by a lot of oil build-up and bacteria in sweat glands. They are also called pimples.
A c-section (cesarean section) is where a surgeon cuts into the front lower torso & into the uterus to deliver a baby. I'm told it can leave a big scar.
To add to that, there are warts and moles, which are other forms of skin blemishes. As I understand it, high res still nude photos are heavily photoshopped, with HD video, that's too much work.
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2) Sony, apparently, refuses to allow adult content on blu-ray... or at least... they will have no part in manufacturing of such content. Which is understandable, but like it or not, the adult market brings in significantly more money than the mainstream market. Something like 15 billion a year? Like it or not, you can't ignore the adult market.
Where have you been? Digital Playground are going full steam ahead with blu ray titles. And Vivid Entertainment already has some titles on Blu Ray.
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...ray_Title/1291
Yeah, Blu-Ray is more advanced than HD-DVD. The main advantage is significantly greater storage capacity. The second is freedom from MS's influence on the product.
I second that! Great news AppleInsider!
Google "blu-ray adult sony". Sony's stance is a little confusing... which was why I used the word "apparently". Do some googling to find out more. In any case, FWIW... sounds like the adult industry has settled on HD-DVD.
I think the question was where you got the $15B figure. I couldn't find that. Googling those keywords found that your claim of no Blu-Ray porn to be wrong in about half the top ten hits. I think the original story was stretched to look like something that it wasn't.
I don't think porn will be a big influence this time around anyway. There's a question as to whether there's even a proportionate demand for HD porn, because that puts a demand on appearance, the arguments I read is that porn watchers don't want to see all the flaws. There's also competition with the internet.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,13...y/article.html
Sony Japan does not allow its own duplication house to work with porn, but other divisions that focus on making films can help any industry, thus the confusion.
Advanced or not, frankly I'm unimpressed with Blu-Ray. I saw a demo on an HDTV at a Best Buy that looked pretty bad. It appears either the screen or the disc compression leave a lot of visual strobing in scenes with fast movement. I couldn't stand it.
There's only one movie that I know of that has strobing and that's Planet Earth. I think it's in all three formats.
I've not really seen a very good display of HD DVD or Blu-Ray in a retail store, or really of any other format. It's probably a setup issue.
Advanced or not, frankly I'm unimpressed with Blu-Ray. I saw a demo on an HDTV at a Best Buy that looked pretty bad. It appears either the screen or the disc compression leave a lot of visual strobing in scenes with fast movement. I couldn't stand it.
Admittedly I don't know a great deal about Blu-ray authoring, however I can tell you from my experience there is a huge variance in the levels of quality in HD content. Some of the the stuff you see on cable or Direct TV is crap compared to the official Sony demo disc which is simply pristine.
But aside from that, if you are expecting zero compression artifacts, it is just not part of the equation with 1080i. There are going to be some pixels, but when you step away from the screen a couple meters, it looks pretty decent.
I think the question was where you got the $15B figure.
Yes, such a big number strikes to say the least.
I don't think porn will be a big influence this time around anyway. There's a question as to whether there's even a proportionate demand for HD porn, because that puts a demand on appearance, the arguments I read is that porn watchers don't want to see all the flaws. There's also competition with the internet.
I never thought about that before. Not that it affects me in any way, but what you say about imperfections being much more pronounced through HD, must be something serious to consider in this context, for obvious reasons I would not like to talk about now.
The best thing Apple could do is bring out a new Apple TV with a dual format high-def DVD drive, at a reasonable price i.e. the price of a PS3 rather than current dual format players. That's something I'd buy and I reckon a lot of others would too. If they were planning such a device then it might explain how they've been able to get a deal on movie rentals, considering how unsuccessful Apple TV has been to date.
Yes, such a big number strikes to say the least.
I never thought about that before. Not that it affects me in any way, but what you say about imperfections being much more pronounced through HD, must be something serious to consider in this context, for obvious reasons I would not like to talk about now.
Aw c'mon, don't you wanna see the acne, tattoos and c-section scars in their true HD glory?
http://medicine.plosjournals.org/per...d.0040126&ct=1
The actual figure could be higher and probably is, though some sites say it is only 10 billion, though this site links (dead link) to a forbes article that said in 2001 that the industry was worth 14 billion:
http://www.thegeekery.biz/2007/07/30...-pun-intended/
Just a little reading...
If it's true the only computer they would introduce it in is obviously the Mac Pro. There is no other computer they make that could fit an affordable Blu Ray player in it. Just like when they introduced DVD-R (actually DVD-RAM) drives. The new Superdrive.
As satchmo and I pointed out, HP announced a desktop today for $949 that plays both formats. The drives aren't that expensive.
There's a question as to whether there's even a proportionate demand for HD porn, because that puts a demand on appearance, the arguments I read is that porn watchers don't want to see all the flaws.
I wouldn't think porn viewers would care that much. Porn is cheap, HD-DVD is cheap, looks like a perfect match. But whatever floats your boat. Personally I was never very attracted to the sleaze look to begin with. Maybe a little pixelization would help cover up the flaws in the acting.
Aw c'mon, don't you wanna see the acne, tattoos and c-section scars in their true HD glory?
I mean no offense but if I knew what is all that then I would probably have an answer.
I mean no offense but if I knew what is all that then I would probably have an answer.
I don't understand how you don't understand it.
I don't understand how you don't understand it.
I know what is tattoos, but acne and c-section scars I do not.
I know what is tattoos, but acne and c-section scars I do not.
Acne - pimples
C-section - when the baby exits the mommy via a window rather than the door.
edit: good god I've strayed from this topic...
True and truer lol
Yeah, Blu-Ray is more advanced than HD-DVD. The main advantage is significantly greater storage capacity. The second is freedom from MS's influence on the product.
And being under Sony's influence is a whole lot better- right?
Yes, such a big number strikes to say the least.
I never thought about that before. Not that it affects me in any way, but what you say about imperfections being much more pronounced through HD, must be something serious to consider in this context, for obvious reasons I would not like to talk about now.
Porn HD DVD will kill Blu-Ray like Porn VHS killed Beta.
I know what is tattoos, but acne and c-section scars I do not.
Ah. I didn't get that impression.
Acne are skin blemishes caused by a lot of oil build-up and bacteria in sweat glands. They are also called pimples.
A c-section (cesarean section) is where a surgeon cuts into the front lower torso & into the uterus to deliver a baby. I'm told it can leave a big scar.
To add to that, there are warts and moles, which are other forms of skin blemishes. As I understand it, high res still nude photos are heavily photoshopped, with HD video, that's too much work.
Apple will do whatever makes most sense for Apple, not for Blu-Ray or HD-DVD.
Steve Jobs is the majority Disney stockholder and Disney is exclusively Blu-Ray. Gee I wonder why Apple's gone Blu-Ray?