Another problem with these "cloud" apps... if you have no net access, you're out of luck. Several power outages recently have really brought that home for me.
Beyond issues of accessibility, what about security? My god, it's amazing to me that we live in a world where hackers routinely bring down even some of the biggest sites and where we read about security and viruses daily and yet everyone is all hyped up to start storing their personal data and work out there in "the Cloud" (a buzzword that I've heard just about enough of already.)
Yeah, right. I'm no Luddite, but count me way the hell out of that plan.
I agree. Mobile me is not working properly now even. What they really need to do with Mobile is make it a free service. Would actually be a good business move. All automatic and free.
1) Free with no ads makes it a cost center for Apple, which means that complaints about its current updates would increase.
2) Free would mean that any and all would sign up for it, with means it would slow down considerably. Remember the first week of MM when the servers were bogged down?
Frankly I don't ever want my applications to be in the "cloud" If I can't run them on my computer I don''t need, will not use, them even if they are free.
1) Free with no ads makes it a cost center for Apple, which means that complaints about its current updates would increase.
2) Free would mean that any and all would sign up for it, with means it would slow down considerably. Remember the first week of MM when the servers were bogged down?
Yeah, I don't want it to be free.
I want them to give me something for the money I already pay besides syncing my bookmarks, the ability to let grandma see family photos on the web, and a bad email application.
if this web based suite is a sh*tty as mobile me then they can keep it!
keep it in the lab a while longer to make sure it really works.
mobile me is still sh*t. wiped out my entire contacts/calendar last week! LOL!!! on me.com, iphone and MBP. -- thank goodness I use Daylite and was able to retrieve my data.
love Apple however web-based Apple - I'm not convinced just yet!
I agree. Mobile me is not working properly now even. What they really need to do with Mobile is make it a free service. Would actually be a good business move. All automatic and free.
The problem with free is you have no leverage to petition for improvement. Your complaints will eventually lead to "it's free if you don't like it don't use it" I like my vendors to be a little more accountable.
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Me neither. Looks like I'll be buying Office for the Mac from the Microsoft store afterall if that happens.
Shudder...if iWork goes to web only Office 2008 will be my next likely step <tears>
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Yeah, I don't want it to be free.
I want them to give me something for the money I already pay besides syncing my bookmarks, the ability to let grandma see family photos on the web, and a bad email application.
Exactly ...MobileMe needs to expand to the point where it's almost assumed that a new user will sign up.
"Apple may build on its success in delivering web-based applications for its .Mac internet service"
THAT, is a total joke. I love Apple as much as the next guy around here, but that statement is beyond laughable.
Now on to the rumor:
1. If this is in lieu of iWork 09 on the desktop, I suspect Apple has lost its mind. iWork is evolving into an incredible suite--note perfect, but truly incredible. It will be a killer asset to the Mac platform. Given Apple is a smart company, I think this can't be true.
2. If this is in addition to a desktop suite, I think Apple is losing focus. Get iWork 09 to insanely great status and give us iPhone iWork apps first.
I'm afraid that Apple have tried to transfer their high-tech approach to web apps, whereas what is needed to make things 'just work' on the internet ( or any shared technology space ) is low-tech. I struggled endlessly to get MobileMe to work using Safari on Vista ( I have a Macbook now thank god ) and no-one in my family has ever been able to view the photos I posted to my MobileMe gallery. I think the best web app ever was Hotmail, before Microsoft starting trying to 'improve' it. Just plain old HTML with an engine in the background is going to work on everything. On the net, keep it simple, and old.
1) Free with no ads makes it a cost center for Apple, which means that complaints about its current updates would increase.
2) Free would mean that any and all would sign up for it, with means it would slow down considerably. Remember the first week of MM when the servers were bogged down?
The problem with free is you have no leverage to petition for improvement. Your complaints will eventually lead to "it's free if you don't like it don't use it"
How bad would that be. So, more people would complain how crap the service is? Shocker. Could we survive it? Wow.
Yesterday I attempted to convert some old AppleWorks documents to Pages, and was reminded why I usually don't use iWork. First, there was no obvious way to make this conversion, leaving me to cut and paste. Then having to deal with formatting problems afterward, including the non-intuitive way of creating Left Tabs. Ultimately I decided to just leave my docs as .cwk's as making the conversion was just too much frustrating work. One measure of how bad Pages is is that I use Word instead, an app whose interface is the poster child of Microsoft user-unfriendliness.
The prospect of porting Pages (as is) to the web would be to make it even more unusable than it already is. Please, Apple, invest in making Pages the word processor for the rest of us. Right now it is a half-baked mess.
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Another problem with these "cloud" apps... if you have no net access, you're out of luck. Several power outages recently have really brought that home for me.
Beyond issues of accessibility, what about security? My god, it's amazing to me that we live in a world where hackers routinely bring down even some of the biggest sites and where we read about security and viruses daily and yet everyone is all hyped up to start storing their personal data and work out there in "the Cloud" (a buzzword that I've heard just about enough of already.)
Yeah, right. I'm no Luddite, but count me way the hell out of that plan.
Not liking this idea.
I'm with you.
The web based apps I have used (and subscribe to) suck. Once again, the MicroS--t theory - "be everything to everybody"
I guess all web based app designers think everyone is running a T3 to the bathroom.
I bought it I want to OWN it!... guess I'm just too picky.
Not liking this idea.
Me neither. Looks like I'll be buying Office for the Mac from the Microsoft store afterall if that happens.
I agree. Mobile me is not working properly now even. What they really need to do with Mobile is make it a free service. Would actually be a good business move. All automatic and free.
1) Free with no ads makes it a cost center for Apple, which means that complaints about its current updates would increase.
2) Free would mean that any and all would sign up for it, with means it would slow down considerably. Remember the first week of MM when the servers were bogged down?
1) Free with no ads makes it a cost center for Apple, which means that complaints about its current updates would increase.
2) Free would mean that any and all would sign up for it, with means it would slow down considerably. Remember the first week of MM when the servers were bogged down?
Yeah, I don't want it to be free.
I want them to give me something for the money I already pay besides syncing my bookmarks, the ability to let grandma see family photos on the web, and a bad email application.
keep it in the lab a while longer to make sure it really works.
mobile me is still sh*t. wiped out my entire contacts/calendar last week! LOL!!! on me.com, iphone and MBP. -- thank goodness I use Daylite and was able to retrieve my data.
love Apple however web-based Apple - I'm not convinced just yet!
I agree. Mobile me is not working properly now even. What they really need to do with Mobile is make it a free service. Would actually be a good business move. All automatic and free.
The problem with free is you have no leverage to petition for improvement. Your complaints will eventually lead to "it's free if you don't like it don't use it" I like my vendors to be a little more accountable.
Me neither. Looks like I'll be buying Office for the Mac from the Microsoft store afterall if that happens.
Shudder...if iWork goes to web only Office 2008 will be my next likely step <tears>
Yeah, I don't want it to be free.
I want them to give me something for the money I already pay besides syncing my bookmarks, the ability to let grandma see family photos on the web, and a bad email application.
Exactly ...MobileMe needs to expand to the point where it's almost assumed that a new user will sign up.
professional Mac = 2 year
consumer Mac = 1year
iPhone or iPod touch = 6 months
iPod, Airport, AppleTV = 3 months
instead of those worthless coupons, give us something of substance.
THAT, is a total joke. I love Apple as much as the next guy around here, but that statement is beyond laughable.
Now on to the rumor:
1. If this is in lieu of iWork 09 on the desktop, I suspect Apple has lost its mind. iWork is evolving into an incredible suite--note perfect, but truly incredible. It will be a killer asset to the Mac platform. Given Apple is a smart company, I think this can't be true.
2. If this is in addition to a desktop suite, I think Apple is losing focus. Get iWork 09 to insanely great status and give us iPhone iWork apps first.
1) Free with no ads makes it a cost center for Apple, which means that complaints about its current updates would increase.
2) Free would mean that any and all would sign up for it, with means it would slow down considerably. Remember the first week of MM when the servers were bogged down?
That's a lot of crap.
Yeah, I don't want it to be free.
Oh God, Apple's doing something fucking right. Excuse me while I go vomit.
The problem with free is you have no leverage to petition for improvement. Your complaints will eventually lead to "it's free if you don't like it don't use it"
How bad would that be. So, more people would complain how crap the service is? Shocker. Could we survive it? Wow.
Rather than make MobileMe a free-for-all, Apple should give away free service with every Apple purchase...
professional Mac = 2 year
consumer Mac = 1year
iPhone or iPod touch = 6 months
iPod, Airport, AppleTV = 3 months
Please, I am not being pimped by Mobile me. It's either free or it's not, it's that simple. It should be free. It should be.
Wow, how bad that would be. So more people would complain how crap the service is? Shocker. Could we survive it? Wow.
Difference is you couldn't do shit about it. What are you going to do take your $.00 elsewhere?
Difference is you couldn't do shit about it. What are you going to do take your $.00 elsewhere?
Yes. It should be free, $99 is an embarrassment at this stage. Step off that fanboi stage please.
The prospect of porting Pages (as is) to the web would be to make it even more unusable than it already is. Please, Apple, invest in making Pages the word processor for the rest of us. Right now it is a half-baked mess.