Well some say there is a 75% chance that AT&T continues to be the sole provider for the iPhone while other rumors indicate that there is an 80% chance that Verizon will get it. So that means there is a 160% chance that something is going to happen that 50% of people are going to be pissed about 100% of the time.
So open the iPhone up to all carriers and everyone will be happy and every company can make money. That adds up much better IMHO.
It's a feature without a market. That's the problem with a lot of "features". They're there, but people don't use them. So do they matter? Not really, except to a very few.
Skype, baby! SKYPE! We need it for Skype. Only a matter of time before Skype allow (or should that be, the carriers allow) 3G connections on iPhones instead of pure Wi-Fi at the moment.
Heck, even my old (pre-iPhone) Motorola Raz-r V3x had two cameras.
As for multi-carrier in the States, it will be interesting to see if AT&T will ever let go of the reins and let somebody else have a crack, as the UK now have a choice of providers for iPhone.
Skype, baby! SKYPE! We need it for Skype. Only a matter of time before Skype allow (or should that be, the carriers allow) 3G connections on iPhones instead of pure Wi-Fi at the moment.
Heck, even my old (pre-iPhone) Motorola Raz-r V3x had two cameras.
As for multi-carrier in the States, it will be interesting to see if AT&T will ever let go of the reins and let somebody else have a crack, as the UK now have a choice of providers for iPhone.
Since when do you need a camera for Skype? You don't. You can make voice calls with it just like the 99.999% of people using it do.
I suspect we'll see multiple carriers at some point. The question is when. If Apple is waiting for Qualcomm's new chip, then it can't be this year, unless the new phone comes out really late. But no one outside AT&T and Apple know when their exclusivity deal is over. There are plenty of rumors, but no facts.
I don't see a need for any other noise cancellation logic. I've never had a problem being heard, even at my noisy as hell gym, airports, or restaurants. Is this an issue?
Voice input for common apps can already be had by installing an app which will create an e-mail, a text, a note, a calendar entry, etc.
A higher res screen might be nice, but only to keep up with the Joneses. The pixel density (DPI/PPI) is fine for the current screen size and it only adds bragging rights for very little return. The iPhone already boasts 163 PPI (newspapers are typically 150-200 DPI and magazines typically use between 200-300 DPI). Unless the screen gets much larger I don't see much benefit to this. The sample hardware appears to have an identical screen size.
Larger screen size would be ok, but I would think anything larger than 4" would be a bit obnoxious for a phone.
I still don't see much use for multi-tasking outside of the core apps. AIM can just forward any messages as a text message you can reply to and I don't understand the need for Skype on a cell phone. I have no other apps that I currently use, or that I can think of that need it.
User replaceable battery is pointless for me. I get 3 days between charges with regular usage (3GS). If/When my current battery wears out I can just replace it with a screwdriver and a $10 dollar replacement from Amazon.
Physical keyboards are too prone to breakage (sticky/dead keys). They are unecessary IMO. I can type just as fast on an iPhone as I can on a berry.
I don't care about providers. I have no issues with AT&T, but I can see the appeal for people in the boonies or bad areas like NY or SF.
I'd rather have a flash than a higher res camera.
I would never use video chat, but I suppose some like to cam. Meh.
Customizable home screen - about the only thing I'd like here is the ability to set the background like the iPad. I suspect we'll see that in 4.0.
OLED will be nice for battery life
I already navigate and zoom with one hand. No idea what this one is about. I would find using two hands unintuitive.
No idea what you mean by 'optical scrolling'.
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1. Dual microphone to cancel background noise?
2. Voice input for all text entry fields?
3. Higher resolution screen?
4. Larger screen dimensions?
5. Multi-tasking?
6. User-replaceable battery?
7. Physical keyboard in addition to on-screen keyboard?
8. On any carrier other than the POS from AT&T?
9. Higher resolution camera?
10. Front-facing camera for video chat?
11. Customizable home-screen?
12. AMOLED screen (aka, anything other than the POS original screen)?
13. Being able to navigate with zoom in/out with only one hand?
14. Alternate input for navigation such as optical scrolling?
Not that the iPhone needs a redesign, but it does start to look stale. I am kinda torn on that cause I don't want any new buttons or scroll wheels, but if there is a way to tweak it just a tad on the outside it would make the iPhone's design exiting again.
Not that the iPhone needs a redesign, but it does start to look stale. I am kinda torn on that cause I don't want any new buttons or scroll wheels, but if there is a way to tweak it just a tad on the outside it would make the iPhone's design exiting again.
I actually like the idea of putting the home button 'dimple' on the back of the phone, and having the entire face covered with actual screen surface. Someone else posted some decent mock-ups on one of the other threads. I actually liked it.
Not that the iPhone needs a redesign, but it does start to look stale. I am kinda torn on that cause I don't want any new buttons or scroll wheels, but if there is a way to tweak it just a tad on the outside it would make the iPhone's design exiting again.
I think I will be disappointed if Apple didn't introduce a new design this time. The current one is starting to get old, but most importantly, it looks like they have failed to address the cracking issues some people are experiencing.
I personally would hope the new one will take design clues from the iPad. I'm still loving the aluminum back of my 2G iPhone!
Word. The aluminum back should definitely make a comeback, and if it does, it will be more sculpted & feel better in the hand.
That's the problem with the iPhone in that the looks won't ever change. It is basically a screen. Apple does not want to distract from the screen so they'll design out anything that does. Thankfully the case manufacturers make the iPhone/iPod Touch fun to use. I'd still like to see a flip version of the iPhone.
Seriously? Flip phones are on their way to being obsolete.
Word. The aluminum back should definitely make a comeback, and if it does, it will be more sculpted & feel better in the hand.
The metal back affected the radios, which is probably why it was ditched. The sculpting argument doesn't make sense as plastic can be sculpted in any shape that metal can. I don't particularly think a metal case on the back added much of anything except for weight.
I agree on the flip-phone. Ugly and unnecessary. Their primary reason to exist was to prevent accidental button clicks, which isn't an issue on the iPhone.
1. Would be interesting and good if it worked well.
2. Useful feature, however I probably wouldn't use it. Most people wouldn't want to talk out loud in public what they are typing.
3. Given to be good.
4. Only if the phone doesn't get too much larger.
5. So long as battery life isn't affected.
6. Do not care for it, has always made phones seem flimsy to me.
7. See #6 above. Plus I much prefer on-screen entry.
8. Would be good although I probably wouldn't switch away from AT&T.
9. Given. Sounds like they might have 5.1 for next iteration.
10. I really really have wanted this. The ability to have an on-demand video chat with the person that I'm calling (who also has an iphone).
11. Would be nice. Doubt it's happening though.
12. I still am not sold on AMOLED. It sounds really expensive for not giving that much (and having other drawbacks compared to LED LCD)
13. I've been able to do that for a while... even while holding the phone with that hand.
14. Not sure what you mean, but it does sound interesting.
>> All good points.
TWO MICs >> You might be able to do noise cancellation in software with one mic -- but two does make it easier. Noise cancellation really can improve the sound quality.
VOICE CONTROL >> Can't you do SOME voice navigation now? Use an in-ear phone/mic. The processing power for REAL voice control is expensive -- but I think doable for Apple. A dictation system, however would be sweet -- but that's a HUGE processor and database slammer. However -- I think that troops in Iraq use the iPhone quite a lot for translation, so I'm sure there is a market.
CAMERA >>. I'd want a swivel camera, that can be flipped from font to back facing -- make use of that large bevel. I think the MAIN reason we don't have a video camera yet, is because AT&T cannot handle the data traffic yet -- neither can any other carrier as none of them could handle AT&T's traffic regardless of the "big map" Verizon adds like to tout. I'm sure Apple is ready to add one as soon as the bandwidth is there. Adding it without that-- however, would just make a lot of customers angry. But I'd love one on the iTouch and just use my home wireless for Skype -- but it's a marketing decision likely.
MORE STUFF!!! >> A lot of these other features will probably be added as time permits -- Apple chose to make it bulletproof and have a usable touch navigation system and to repurpose their iWork apps instead -- I think on balance, that was a better choice than lot's of new features. Other markets will come on line faster than Apple can upgrade and fulfill orders -- or maybe not, if all the PR FUD on the web does it's job.
BIGGER DISPLAY >> Or a projected/virtual display. You could have a hi-rez mode for people who want it. The iPad processor is more capable and energy efficient than what Apple is using in the iPhone -- so they are very capable of getting the horsepower into the Phone. I could handle maybe 1/2" wider/longer in both dimensions. I'd just like a form-factor that wasn't just like a bar of soap -- how about some one-hand ergonomics on phones for a change -- eh?
MULTITASKING >> SOME Multitasking MIGHT be useful -- I'd like other apps to go to sleep, and allow me to toggle back to them with a swipe gesture -- like when you are trying to move text clippings from a web page or link some emails. I want to have some music or podcast play when I'm using a game -- but it already works with some apps and not others -- so it's another developer issue. Multitasking requires developers to play nice, or a bit more processing power and managing of crashes. Stability is probably much more desired than true multitasking for MOST people. If you can quit and load a new app in less than 2 seconds -- then I think there are few cases where you NEED multitasking for this device.
One important one is messaging, and updating data -- but developers CAN use Apple's notification system I believe (not positive) -- so again, if you can't get everyone to use the correct notification system -- then likely you won't get them to behave on multitasking either.
Not having any apps that don't work so far (and I've filled every slot on my 11 pages) -- is something I appreciate.
BATTERY SWAP >> If the device lasts a long time -- I think this is overrated. Not many people upgrade their phones -- and some power-travelers, do swap out batteries -- but if the phone could last longer -- I think everyone would prefer that. Apple is making a device for less that is sturdier by trading out the swappable parts. They can either charge less or make more profit on something that isn't really impacting 95% of users (OK, pulled that stat out of my rear -- I admit it).
7.>> Is this dictation? Can't see the original comments - but it's cool but too demanding at the moment. You have to get rid of a lot of noise. Would be nice, but so would anti-gravity packs.
MORE CARRIERS >> Yes. It would be nice. However, with 4% of the market -- the iPhone has 50% of the Smart Phone data traffic. Maybe Verizon isn't doing the deal because they couldn't handle people ACTUALLY using all those nifty web features. I'd prefer T-Mobile however, and just have a limited data path to use it as a GPS - and save my pennies and use WiFi for anything high bandwidth. That $30 data fee to me is the main reason I don't have the iPhone -- NOT the carrier. However, I still remember AT&T helping to spy on the public -- but most of these carriers probably bent over for that.
VIDEO CHAT >> Requires more bandwidth on our cell phone networks -- they are not quite ready.
BETTER SCREEN >> Apple has patents for better touch sensors and 3D display and all sorts of amazing things -- but what can they actually get in production on the next iPhone -- that's another question. What people don't realize, is that iPad's 9.7" screen would cost around $300 alone from any other vendor for it's quality. We were looking at portable HD LCD displays for Video Cameras and they cost more than that a year ago. The latest Google phone has a better screen than the iPhone now -- but it costs in battery life and profit margins. Apple can definitely do it with the improvements they've got on the iPad display. It's just a matter of when -- not IF, and I'm sure most other manufacturers are freaking out about creating a 10" touch screen of that quality on the iPad and even APPROACHING the $500 price. So Apple is going to have a competitive advantage in this area. The other issue is -- how long the displays last. My iTouch still looks good and works great a few years after purchase -- some of these OLED and other displays -- does anyone know?
ONE HANDED >> I'm already doing that too. I'd LIKE to add some sonic vibration -- or something, to give tactile feedback. I'd like to be able to "feel" the display.
the 3G was referring to the GSM-standard (3rd Generation = UMTS ... which is what the iPhone is using). There will be a 4th generation of mobile services, but that's NOT going to see the daylight in 2010 for a wide range of customers.
If you wanna use some sort of "generation" to distinguish between the models, call it G4 (like we did with all the iPods). Which makes
G1 - original iPhone
G2 - iPhone 3G
G3 - iPhone 3GS
G4 - ????? (hopefully just called "iPhone"... get rid of those stupid numbers and letters!. we're not asus!)
It amazes me when everyone is so against or don't understand video calling. The fact is that most 3G phones in Europe have it, so its a competitive feature. It was also one of the first selling points of 3G and having used it I can say it works quite well.
Multimedia was always the point of 3G. It was to allow you to now access video on your device (YouTube wasn't big yet, but TV clips etc..) In addition all the phone came out with the front facing camera that allowed video calling. I used it a few times, especially since my carrier in Europe at the time offered a promotion for free video calls in order to push 3G pickup. That was back in 2005 and it worked surprisingly well. So I can't imagine Apple would have that much of a hard time to include iChat and have it work according to the desktop version with the addition of perhaps video calling numbers where carriers supported it (i.e. all of europe).
Video calling is a huge feature how can Apple be so stupid not to include it. I stay in the UK and every single day I see everyone making video calls. Its not unusual to see people being run over by buses whilst making a video call and not looking where they are going.
Now, I am obviously taking the piss. I made 1 video call on my Nokia N70 years ago and the experience was crap. Mobile video calling is pointless and purely a novelty. The only way video calling would take off is if the porn industry adopted it for sex chat calls.
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Well some say there is a 75% chance that AT&T continues to be the sole provider for the iPhone while other rumors indicate that there is an 80% chance that Verizon will get it. So that means there is a 160% chance that something is going to happen that 50% of people are going to be pissed about 100% of the time.
So open the iPhone up to all carriers and everyone will be happy and every company can make money. That adds up much better IMHO.
It's a feature without a market. That's the problem with a lot of "features". They're there, but people don't use them. So do they matter? Not really, except to a very few.
Skype, baby! SKYPE! We need it for Skype. Only a matter of time before Skype allow (or should that be, the carriers allow) 3G connections on iPhones instead of pure Wi-Fi at the moment.
Heck, even my old (pre-iPhone) Motorola Raz-r V3x had two cameras.
As for multi-carrier in the States, it will be interesting to see if AT&T will ever let go of the reins and let somebody else have a crack, as the UK now have a choice of providers for iPhone.
Skype, baby! SKYPE! We need it for Skype. Only a matter of time before Skype allow (or should that be, the carriers allow) 3G connections on iPhones instead of pure Wi-Fi at the moment.
Heck, even my old (pre-iPhone) Motorola Raz-r V3x had two cameras.
As for multi-carrier in the States, it will be interesting to see if AT&T will ever let go of the reins and let somebody else have a crack, as the UK now have a choice of providers for iPhone.
Since when do you need a camera for Skype? You don't. You can make voice calls with it just like the 99.999% of people using it do.
I suspect we'll see multiple carriers at some point. The question is when. If Apple is waiting for Qualcomm's new chip, then it can't be this year, unless the new phone comes out really late. But no one outside AT&T and Apple know when their exclusivity deal is over. There are plenty of rumors, but no facts.
Voice input for common apps can already be had by installing an app which will create an e-mail, a text, a note, a calendar entry, etc.
A higher res screen might be nice, but only to keep up with the Joneses. The pixel density (DPI/PPI) is fine for the current screen size and it only adds bragging rights for very little return. The iPhone already boasts 163 PPI (newspapers are typically 150-200 DPI and magazines typically use between 200-300 DPI). Unless the screen gets much larger I don't see much benefit to this. The sample hardware appears to have an identical screen size.
Larger screen size would be ok, but I would think anything larger than 4" would be a bit obnoxious for a phone.
I still don't see much use for multi-tasking outside of the core apps. AIM can just forward any messages as a text message you can reply to and I don't understand the need for Skype on a cell phone. I have no other apps that I currently use, or that I can think of that need it.
User replaceable battery is pointless for me. I get 3 days between charges with regular usage (3GS). If/When my current battery wears out I can just replace it with a screwdriver and a $10 dollar replacement from Amazon.
Physical keyboards are too prone to breakage (sticky/dead keys). They are unecessary IMO. I can type just as fast on an iPhone as I can on a berry.
I don't care about providers. I have no issues with AT&T, but I can see the appeal for people in the boonies or bad areas like NY or SF.
I'd rather have a flash than a higher res camera.
I would never use video chat, but I suppose some like to cam. Meh.
Customizable home screen - about the only thing I'd like here is the ability to set the background like the iPad. I suspect we'll see that in 4.0.
OLED will be nice for battery life
I already navigate and zoom with one hand. No idea what this one is about. I would find using two hands unintuitive.
No idea what you mean by 'optical scrolling'.
1. Dual microphone to cancel background noise?
2. Voice input for all text entry fields?
3. Higher resolution screen?
4. Larger screen dimensions?
5. Multi-tasking?
6. User-replaceable battery?
7. Physical keyboard in addition to on-screen keyboard?
8. On any carrier other than the POS from AT&T?
9. Higher resolution camera?
10. Front-facing camera for video chat?
11. Customizable home-screen?
12. AMOLED screen (aka, anything other than the POS original screen)?
13. Being able to navigate with zoom in/out with only one hand?
14. Alternate input for navigation such as optical scrolling?
1. Dual microphone to cancel background noise?
2. Voice input for all text entry fields?
3. Higher resolution screen?
4. Larger screen dimensions?
5. Multi-tasking?
6. User-replaceable battery?
7. Physical keyboard in addition to on-screen keyboard?
8. On any carrier other than the POS from AT&T?
9. Higher resolution camera?
10. Front-facing camera for video chat?
11. Customizable home-screen?
12. AMOLED screen (aka, anything other than the POS original screen)?
13. Being able to navigate with zoom in/out with only one hand?
14. Alternate input for navigation such as optical scrolling?
Yes thats the list. but i'm not sure of user replacing battery. at least it give me something to whine about
Not that the iPhone needs a redesign, but it does start to look stale. I am kinda torn on that cause I don't want any new buttons or scroll wheels, but if there is a way to tweak it just a tad on the outside it would make the iPhone's design exiting again.
I actually like the idea of putting the home button 'dimple' on the back of the phone, and having the entire face covered with actual screen surface. Someone else posted some decent mock-ups on one of the other threads. I actually liked it.
http://forums.appleinsider.com/showt...=106820&page=3
Not that the iPhone needs a redesign, but it does start to look stale. I am kinda torn on that cause I don't want any new buttons or scroll wheels, but if there is a way to tweak it just a tad on the outside it would make the iPhone's design exiting again.
If it doesn't need it, then it shouldn't be done.
I think I will be disappointed if Apple didn't introduce a new design this time. The current one is starting to get old, but most importantly, it looks like they have failed to address the cracking issues some people are experiencing.
I personally would hope the new one will take design clues from the iPad. I'm still loving the aluminum back of my 2G iPhone!
Word. The aluminum back should definitely make a comeback, and if it does, it will be more sculpted & feel better in the hand.
That's the problem with the iPhone in that the looks won't ever change. It is basically a screen. Apple does not want to distract from the screen so they'll design out anything that does. Thankfully the case manufacturers make the iPhone/iPod Touch fun to use. I'd still like to see a flip version of the iPhone.
Seriously? Flip phones are on their way to being obsolete.
The BB Pearl is the ugliest phone I've ever seen.
Word. The aluminum back should definitely make a comeback, and if it does, it will be more sculpted & feel better in the hand.
The metal back affected the radios, which is probably why it was ditched. The sculpting argument doesn't make sense as plastic can be sculpted in any shape that metal can. I don't particularly think a metal case on the back added much of anything except for weight.
I agree on the flip-phone. Ugly and unnecessary. Their primary reason to exist was to prevent accidental button clicks, which isn't an issue on the iPhone.
1. Would be interesting and good if it worked well.
2. Useful feature, however I probably wouldn't use it. Most people wouldn't want to talk out loud in public what they are typing.
3. Given to be good.
4. Only if the phone doesn't get too much larger.
5. So long as battery life isn't affected.
6. Do not care for it, has always made phones seem flimsy to me.
7. See #6 above. Plus I much prefer on-screen entry.
8. Would be good although I probably wouldn't switch away from AT&T.
9. Given. Sounds like they might have 5.1 for next iteration.
10. I really really have wanted this. The ability to have an on-demand video chat with the person that I'm calling (who also has an iphone).
11. Would be nice. Doubt it's happening though.
12. I still am not sold on AMOLED. It sounds really expensive for not giving that much (and having other drawbacks compared to LED LCD)
13. I've been able to do that for a while... even while holding the phone with that hand.
14. Not sure what you mean, but it does sound interesting.
>> All good points.
TWO MICs >> You might be able to do noise cancellation in software with one mic -- but two does make it easier. Noise cancellation really can improve the sound quality.
VOICE CONTROL >> Can't you do SOME voice navigation now? Use an in-ear phone/mic. The processing power for REAL voice control is expensive -- but I think doable for Apple. A dictation system, however would be sweet -- but that's a HUGE processor and database slammer. However -- I think that troops in Iraq use the iPhone quite a lot for translation, so I'm sure there is a market.
CAMERA >>. I'd want a swivel camera, that can be flipped from font to back facing -- make use of that large bevel. I think the MAIN reason we don't have a video camera yet, is because AT&T cannot handle the data traffic yet -- neither can any other carrier as none of them could handle AT&T's traffic regardless of the "big map" Verizon adds like to tout. I'm sure Apple is ready to add one as soon as the bandwidth is there. Adding it without that-- however, would just make a lot of customers angry. But I'd love one on the iTouch and just use my home wireless for Skype -- but it's a marketing decision likely.
MORE STUFF!!! >> A lot of these other features will probably be added as time permits -- Apple chose to make it bulletproof and have a usable touch navigation system and to repurpose their iWork apps instead -- I think on balance, that was a better choice than lot's of new features. Other markets will come on line faster than Apple can upgrade and fulfill orders -- or maybe not, if all the PR FUD on the web does it's job.
BIGGER DISPLAY >> Or a projected/virtual display. You could have a hi-rez mode for people who want it. The iPad processor is more capable and energy efficient than what Apple is using in the iPhone -- so they are very capable of getting the horsepower into the Phone. I could handle maybe 1/2" wider/longer in both dimensions. I'd just like a form-factor that wasn't just like a bar of soap -- how about some one-hand ergonomics on phones for a change -- eh?
MULTITASKING >> SOME Multitasking MIGHT be useful -- I'd like other apps to go to sleep, and allow me to toggle back to them with a swipe gesture -- like when you are trying to move text clippings from a web page or link some emails. I want to have some music or podcast play when I'm using a game -- but it already works with some apps and not others -- so it's another developer issue. Multitasking requires developers to play nice, or a bit more processing power and managing of crashes. Stability is probably much more desired than true multitasking for MOST people. If you can quit and load a new app in less than 2 seconds -- then I think there are few cases where you NEED multitasking for this device.
One important one is messaging, and updating data -- but developers CAN use Apple's notification system I believe (not positive) -- so again, if you can't get everyone to use the correct notification system -- then likely you won't get them to behave on multitasking either.
Not having any apps that don't work so far (and I've filled every slot on my 11 pages) -- is something I appreciate.
BATTERY SWAP >> If the device lasts a long time -- I think this is overrated. Not many people upgrade their phones -- and some power-travelers, do swap out batteries -- but if the phone could last longer -- I think everyone would prefer that. Apple is making a device for less that is sturdier by trading out the swappable parts. They can either charge less or make more profit on something that isn't really impacting 95% of users (OK, pulled that stat out of my rear -- I admit it).
7.>> Is this dictation? Can't see the original comments - but it's cool but too demanding at the moment. You have to get rid of a lot of noise. Would be nice, but so would anti-gravity packs.
MORE CARRIERS >> Yes. It would be nice. However, with 4% of the market -- the iPhone has 50% of the Smart Phone data traffic. Maybe Verizon isn't doing the deal because they couldn't handle people ACTUALLY using all those nifty web features. I'd prefer T-Mobile however, and just have a limited data path to use it as a GPS - and save my pennies and use WiFi for anything high bandwidth. That $30 data fee to me is the main reason I don't have the iPhone -- NOT the carrier. However, I still remember AT&T helping to spy on the public -- but most of these carriers probably bent over for that.
VIDEO CHAT >> Requires more bandwidth on our cell phone networks -- they are not quite ready.
BETTER SCREEN >> Apple has patents for better touch sensors and 3D display and all sorts of amazing things -- but what can they actually get in production on the next iPhone -- that's another question. What people don't realize, is that iPad's 9.7" screen would cost around $300 alone from any other vendor for it's quality. We were looking at portable HD LCD displays for Video Cameras and they cost more than that a year ago. The latest Google phone has a better screen than the iPhone now -- but it costs in battery life and profit margins. Apple can definitely do it with the improvements they've got on the iPad display. It's just a matter of when -- not IF, and I'm sure most other manufacturers are freaking out about creating a 10" touch screen of that quality on the iPad and even APPROACHING the $500 price. So Apple is going to have a competitive advantage in this area. The other issue is -- how long the displays last. My iTouch still looks good and works great a few years after purchase -- some of these OLED and other displays -- does anyone know?
ONE HANDED >> I'm already doing that too. I'd LIKE to add some sonic vibration -- or something, to give tactile feedback. I'd like to be able to "feel" the display.
the 3G was referring to the GSM-standard (3rd Generation = UMTS ... which is what the iPhone is using). There will be a 4th generation of mobile services, but that's NOT going to see the daylight in 2010 for a wide range of customers.
If you wanna use some sort of "generation" to distinguish between the models, call it G4 (like we did with all the iPods). Which makes
G1 - original iPhone
G2 - iPhone 3G
G3 - iPhone 3GS
G4 - ????? (hopefully just called "iPhone"... get rid of those stupid numbers and letters!. we're not asus!)
It amazes me when everyone is so against or don't understand video calling. The fact is that most 3G phones in Europe have it, so its a competitive feature. It was also one of the first selling points of 3G and having used it I can say it works quite well.
Multimedia was always the point of 3G. It was to allow you to now access video on your device (YouTube wasn't big yet, but TV clips etc..) In addition all the phone came out with the front facing camera that allowed video calling. I used it a few times, especially since my carrier in Europe at the time offered a promotion for free video calls in order to push 3G pickup. That was back in 2005 and it worked surprisingly well. So I can't imagine Apple would have that much of a hard time to include iChat and have it work according to the desktop version with the addition of perhaps video calling numbers where carriers supported it (i.e. all of europe).
Video calling is a huge feature how can Apple be so stupid not to include it. I stay in the UK and every single day I see everyone making video calls. Its not unusual to see people being run over by buses whilst making a video call and not looking where they are going.
Now, I am obviously taking the piss. I made 1 video call on my Nokia N70 years ago and the experience was crap. Mobile video calling is pointless and purely a novelty. The only way video calling would take off is if the porn industry adopted it for sex chat calls.
I wonder if anyone bashing AMOLED has used a Nexus One. The screen is beautiful, and so much better than the iPhone's washed out LCD screen.
I wouldn't call it washed out, but OLED would definitely be an improvement but in brightness, color, and battery life.
T-Mobile 3G bands, please. Thanks.
laughable, funnier than CDMA