Worse still for those of us who live outside the U.S., where we don't even get to order... we're faced with an inexplicable wait that we've only rarely been faced with before. With the iPhone we waited here in Canada for non-Apple reasons, but in this case it's 100% Apple. Guess the US media is more important to Apple's sales strategy, but it's galling to have to wait for exactly the same hardware+software unit in marginally different packaging.
Me too. I wouldn't get the 3g version if it weren't for the fact that there is no contract and a month of access is only $15. Great for when we go on vacation. For an extra $130 over the life of the device, it is great to have that option.
My question is whether the 3G contract has to be active for the GPS to work. I'm hoping not.
i was going to order one of these things this morning (been planning on it for about a week now), but, announcements from HP and Dell have me pausing... the slate looks pretty cool and the new Dell Streak looks better than both the slate and the ipad... i think i am going to give my amex a break and wait a few more weeks...
So the main factor behind your buying decision is how good it looks?
Super.
No, "super cool" apparently... I'm a middle-aged guy who uses 'cool' too often, so I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that someone calling a device "pretty cool" is also way past their best-before date. Like most Apple devices, the iPad will either flop or redefine the look, feel, and functionality that everyone wants. My money's on the latter.
You can tell by looking that both the alternatives he mentions use a normal aspect ratio, while the 'Pad uses a CRT-era aspect ratio.
Oh, like a 1024 x 768 standard resolution, the same as the majority of (non widescreen) LCD displays out there. With the exception of wide-screen movies, nothing using 19:6 - nothing. I don't mind watching a movie with the letterbox, but i'd very much mind most web sites requiring more vertical scrolling than necessary. Be careful of defining what is "normal", your preference is not normal, nor is widescreen an industry (or even dominant) standard
1024 x 768 and the ratio inherent makes perfect sense and makes for a nicer shaped device.
Pretty clear based on what source? The point of no contract is you can drop or switch the service whenever you like, but I bet they charge an activation fee to discourage you from dropping and restarting every other month.
I am - perhaps naively - going by the assumption that it will be a radical new way of dealing with customers that ATT will offer us (that Jobs was presumably exulting about, at the keynote).
If it is some kind minor admin fee, I can understand that, but an activation fee, esp. at the usual levels, would be a huge disappointment.
No, "super cool" apparently... I'm a middle-aged guy who uses 'cool' too often, so I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that someone calling a device "pretty cool" is also way past their best-before date. Like most Apple devices, the iPad will either flop or redefine the look, feel, and functionality that everyone wants. My money's on the latter.
To each his own. I've bought things before because they looked cool, or even Super Cool, but they didn't cost $500+
My money is also on the iPad at least doing well for the forseeable future. The potential is there for it to do great. What exactly does that "great" involve is up for debate.
i was going to order one of these things this morning (been planning on it for about a week now), but, announcements from HP and Dell have me pausing... the slate looks pretty cool and the new Dell Streak looks better than both the slate and the ipad... i think i am going to give my amex a break and wait a few more weeks...
Please tell me you don't mean this is your iPad killer. If the announcement of this thing is enough to cause you to rethink your iPad order, I don't think the iPad is right for you. One less person in line.
Oh, like a 1024 x 768 standard resolution, the same as the majority of (non widescreen) LCD displays out there. With the exception of wide-screen movies, nothing using 19:6 - nothing. I don't mind watching a movie with the letterbox, but i'd very much mind most web sites requiring more vertical scrolling than necessary. Be careful of defining what is "normal", your preference is not normal, nor is widescreen an industry (or even dominant) standard
1024 x 768 and the ratio inherent makes perfect sense and makes for a nicer shaped device.
Actually, wide screen movies rarely use 16:9.
And that "nothing" includes most all television programs. And majority of LCD displays use the regular modern widescreen aspect ratio.
And WRT websites, if used in portrait mode, they would require LESS scrolling, not more.
I will be looking for the gotchas. Like a $45 'activation fee' whenever you want that one month of access. Also, does AT&T check your credit like when you get an iPhone? This can ding your credit score.
A credit check can ding your credit score? Have you seen that happening?
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I'm not sure where that guy got his info. I think it was pretty clear $15 no contract in/ out whenever you need it. I doubt there would be an activation fee. What would be the point of no contract if you spent $300+ for only 6 months of internet because you turned it on and of. That would be a shi*** deal and adds no value in relative savings.
This is a telecommunications giant you're talking about here, that is their style. I will wait and see.
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Originally Posted by nkhm
Oh, like a 1024 x 768 standard resolution, the same as the majority of (non widescreen) LCD displays out there. With the exception of wide-screen movies, nothing using 19:6 - nothing. I don't mind watching a movie with the letterbox, but i'd very much mind most web sites requiring more vertical scrolling than necessary. Be careful of defining what is "normal", your preference is not normal, nor is widescreen an industry (or even dominant) standard
1024 x 768 and the ratio inherent makes perfect sense and makes for a nicer shaped device.
It seems like there aren't a whole lot of non widescreen LCDs sold anymore.
I don't think the "age" of an aspect ratio makes it more or less valid, that's a very silly assertion. The best shape is the one that suits its purposes. I personally think 1.5:1 would be the best all-around ratio for a tablet, picking a ratio at either extreme to best fit just one of its many uses seems silly to me. A ratio that's perfect for books is a lot less than ideal for wide videos, a ratio that's perfect for wide videos is a lot less than ideal for books.
Oh, like a 1024 x 768 standard resolution, the same as the majority of (non widescreen) LCD displays out there. With the exception of wide-screen movies, nothing using 19:6 - nothing. I don't mind watching a movie with the letterbox, but i'd very much mind most web sites requiring more vertical scrolling than necessary. Be careful of defining what is "normal", your preference is not normal, nor is widescreen an industry (or even dominant) standard
1024 x 768 and the ratio inherent makes perfect sense and makes for a nicer shaped device.
Please don't get drawn into an argument about aspect ratios--you can check previous threads about the iPad.
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the slate looks pretty cool and the new Dell Streak looks better than both the slate and the ipad.
So the main factor behind your buying decision is how good it looks?
Super.
Could be worse if you live in Alaska or Hawaii
Worse still for those of us who live outside the U.S., where we don't even get to order... we're faced with an inexplicable wait that we've only rarely been faced with before. With the iPhone we waited here in Canada for non-Apple reasons, but in this case it's 100% Apple. Guess the US media is more important to Apple's sales strategy, but it's galling to have to wait for exactly the same hardware+software unit in marginally different packaging.
Me too. I wouldn't get the 3g version if it weren't for the fact that there is no contract and a month of access is only $15. Great for when we go on vacation. For an extra $130 over the life of the device, it is great to have that option.
My question is whether the 3G contract has to be active for the GPS to work. I'm hoping not.
i was going to order one of these things this morning (been planning on it for about a week now), but, announcements from HP and Dell have me pausing... the slate looks pretty cool and the new Dell Streak looks better than both the slate and the ipad... i think i am going to give my amex a break and wait a few more weeks...
So the main factor behind your buying decision is how good it looks?
Super.
No, "super cool" apparently... I'm a middle-aged guy who uses 'cool' too often, so I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that someone calling a device "pretty cool" is also way past their best-before date. Like most Apple devices, the iPad will either flop or redefine the look, feel, and functionality that everyone wants. My money's on the latter.
So the main factor behind your buying decision is how good it looks?
Super.
You can tell by looking that both the alternatives he mentions use a normal aspect ratio, while the 'Pad uses a CRT-era aspect ratio.
You can tell by looking that both the alternatives he mentions use a normal aspect ratio, while the 'Pad uses a CRT-era aspect ratio.
Oh, like a 1024 x 768 standard resolution, the same as the majority of (non widescreen) LCD displays out there. With the exception of wide-screen movies, nothing using 19:6 - nothing. I don't mind watching a movie with the letterbox, but i'd very much mind most web sites requiring more vertical scrolling than necessary. Be careful of defining what is "normal", your preference is not normal, nor is widescreen an industry (or even dominant) standard
1024 x 768 and the ratio inherent makes perfect sense and makes for a nicer shaped device.
Are you saying that we can't preorder the 3G model first-thing Friday morning? When can we preorder the 3G?
I am with you on this one. I want to pre-order the 3g 64 GB iPad. Not this wifi thingy.
Pretty clear based on what source? The point of no contract is you can drop or switch the service whenever you like, but I bet they charge an activation fee to discourage you from dropping and restarting every other month.
I am - perhaps naively - going by the assumption that it will be a radical new way of dealing with customers that ATT will offer us (that Jobs was presumably exulting about, at the keynote).
If it is some kind minor admin fee, I can understand that, but an activation fee, esp. at the usual levels, would be a huge disappointment.
No, "super cool" apparently... I'm a middle-aged guy who uses 'cool' too often, so I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that someone calling a device "pretty cool" is also way past their best-before date. Like most Apple devices, the iPad will either flop or redefine the look, feel, and functionality that everyone wants. My money's on the latter.
To each his own. I've bought things before because they looked cool, or even Super Cool, but they didn't cost $500+
My money is also on the iPad at least doing well for the forseeable future. The potential is there for it to do great. What exactly does that "great" involve is up for debate.
Edit: when will the bookstore come to iTunes? That is something I can understand the appeal of.
i was going to order one of these things this morning (been planning on it for about a week now), but, announcements from HP and Dell have me pausing... the slate looks pretty cool and the new Dell Streak looks better than both the slate and the ipad... i think i am going to give my amex a break and wait a few more weeks...
Please tell me you don't mean this is your iPad killer. If the announcement of this thing is enough to cause you to rethink your iPad order, I don't think the iPad is right for you. One less person in line.
Oh, like a 1024 x 768 standard resolution, the same as the majority of (non widescreen) LCD displays out there. With the exception of wide-screen movies, nothing using 19:6 - nothing. I don't mind watching a movie with the letterbox, but i'd very much mind most web sites requiring more vertical scrolling than necessary. Be careful of defining what is "normal", your preference is not normal, nor is widescreen an industry (or even dominant) standard
1024 x 768 and the ratio inherent makes perfect sense and makes for a nicer shaped device.
Actually, wide screen movies rarely use 16:9.
And that "nothing" includes most all television programs. And majority of LCD displays use the regular modern widescreen aspect ratio.
And WRT websites, if used in portrait mode, they would require LESS scrolling, not more.
Any more?
I will be looking for the gotchas. Like a $45 'activation fee' whenever you want that one month of access. Also, does AT&T check your credit like when you get an iPhone? This can ding your credit score.
A credit check can ding your credit score? Have you seen that happening?
I'm not sure where that guy got his info. I think it was pretty clear $15 no contract in/ out whenever you need it. I doubt there would be an activation fee. What would be the point of no contract if you spent $300+ for only 6 months of internet because you turned it on and of. That would be a shi*** deal and adds no value in relative savings.
This is a telecommunications giant you're talking about here, that is their style. I will wait and see.
Oh, like a 1024 x 768 standard resolution, the same as the majority of (non widescreen) LCD displays out there. With the exception of wide-screen movies, nothing using 19:6 - nothing. I don't mind watching a movie with the letterbox, but i'd very much mind most web sites requiring more vertical scrolling than necessary. Be careful of defining what is "normal", your preference is not normal, nor is widescreen an industry (or even dominant) standard
1024 x 768 and the ratio inherent makes perfect sense and makes for a nicer shaped device.
It seems like there aren't a whole lot of non widescreen LCDs sold anymore.
I don't think the "age" of an aspect ratio makes it more or less valid, that's a very silly assertion. The best shape is the one that suits its purposes. I personally think 1.5:1 would be the best all-around ratio for a tablet, picking a ratio at either extreme to best fit just one of its many uses seems silly to me. A ratio that's perfect for books is a lot less than ideal for wide videos, a ratio that's perfect for wide videos is a lot less than ideal for books.
You can tell by looking that both the alternatives he mentions use a normal aspect ratio, while the 'Pad uses a CRT-era aspect ratio.
G.O A.W.A.Y.
Oh, like a 1024 x 768 standard resolution, the same as the majority of (non widescreen) LCD displays out there. With the exception of wide-screen movies, nothing using 19:6 - nothing. I don't mind watching a movie with the letterbox, but i'd very much mind most web sites requiring more vertical scrolling than necessary. Be careful of defining what is "normal", your preference is not normal, nor is widescreen an industry (or even dominant) standard
1024 x 768 and the ratio inherent makes perfect sense and makes for a nicer shaped device.
Please don't get drawn into an argument about aspect ratios--you can check previous threads about the iPad.
G.O A.W.A.Y.
Your wish is not my command.
Take some personal responsibility. Folks will not comply with your unreasonable demands.
Use your own initiative and killfile me.
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