PC lovers, give us a favor... please just go away...
Go to some PC forums argue all day how your most recent Windows from Craposoft is so much better than the previous one, and how by administering your PC just few hours a day you are almost virus and BSOD free...
Here nobody care... once you go Mac... your PC user arguments just look pathetic...
I prefer to pay more, get a better quality hardware, a better OS, better software, better overall consumer experience, and just enjoy my computer for what I use it for, rather than spending my evenings fixing, cleaning, upgrading, patching, reinstalling, complaining....
,,,Although I do have to wonder how much market share Apple is leaving on the table with such high gross margins. There certainly is room to maneuver. And before I get clobbered, no one knows the peak of the PxQ=TR curve. I would only guess that TR could be higher than it is at the current price points.
Not a burn but companies are profit maximizing entities not revenue maximizing - Acer is a good example of trying to be the latter and look at their margins (which impacts their ability to invest and innovate). Revenue maximization at the expense of margins has been a hiding to nothing for many players (stack em high, sell it cheap) see the US car industry, and even Toyota's recent frenzied run for world #1 could be seen as a core reason for overlooking some of the errors that have come to haunt them today. The graph shows Dell's precipitous fall from grace based on this strategy.
People who are good at revenue maximization are also great at managing margins in relation to their industry too (e.g. Walmart)
PC lovers, give us a favor... please just go away...
Go to some PC forums argue all day how your most recent Windows from Craposoft is so much better than the previous one, and how by administering your PC just few hours a day you are almost virus and BSOD free...
Here nobody care... once you go Mac... your PC user arguments just look pathetic...
I prefer to pay more, get a better quality hardware, a better OS, better software, better overall consumer experience, and just enjoy my computer for what I use it for, rather than spending my evenings fixing, cleaning, upgrading, patching, reinstalling, complaining....
If for you, working with a PC surmounts to spending evenings "fixing, cleaning, upgrading, patching, reinstalling, and complaining" then perhaps you should determine if the problem is the computer, or if it's between the chair and the keyboard...
It's really funny when you think about it: On one hand, people like you claim that they went with a Mac because PC's are just so hard to work with, but on the other hand, there are people that say that mostly intelligent and sophisticated people work with Macs. So which is it? Are Macs so easy to use that anyone can work with them, or are Macs for geniuses?
If for you, working with a PC surmounts to spending evenings "fixing, cleaning, upgrading, patching, reinstalling, and complaining" then perhaps you should determine if the problem is the computer, or if it's between the chair and the keyboard...
It's really funny when you think about it: On one hand, people like you claim that they went with a Mac because PC's are just so hard to work with, but on the other hand, there are people that say that mostly intelligent and sophisticated people work with Macs. So which is it? Are Macs so easy to use that anyone can work with them, or are Macs for geniuses?
PC lovers, give us a favor... please just go away...
Go to some PC forums argue all day how your most recent Windows from Craposoft is so much better than the previous one, and how by administering your PC just few hours a day you are almost virus and BSOD free...
Here nobody care... once you go Mac... your PC user arguments just look pathetic...
I prefer to pay more, get a better quality hardware, a better OS, better software, better overall consumer experience, and just enjoy my computer for what I use it for, rather than spending my evenings fixing, cleaning, upgrading, patching, reinstalling, complaining....
Thanks. I echo your sentiment.
AI posts an article that simply factually points out some good news about Macs and desktops, and a bunch of folks come out of nowhere making this a flame war between Macs and PCs.
When will they realize that most of us couldn't care?
Capnbob, absolutely. Point well taken. That's what makes this exercise so fun and unpredictable. Given Apple's DNA, they don't have it in them to engage in a race to the bottom. Given the world-class products Apple likes to turn out - with breathtaking design and fine engineering with attention paid to so many details, including the packaging and experience of tearing into any Apple product - is their room to clamp down on prices and move more volume?
Given what a company is best at, what is that elusive PROFIT-maximizing point where price and quantity deliver maximum impact.
It is about profits, of course, but in business school, the TR curve is used to illustrate the concept.
I was ready to buy a 27" top of the line iMac last year, until I saw it lacked a blu-ray drive.
Since then PCs have come down in price so much I can't see myself buying the iMac, even if Apple ever put a modern optical drive in it. Here in the UK I can literally get a Dell with a higher spec for HALF the price. Just nuts.
You also get Windows 7 and thousands of virus and malware
Anyway, re price comparisons. From my perspective I thought that with the new iMac Apple had actually trimmed their margins somewhat. It is a very high-specced machine, particularly with regards to the screen. Very high quality, comparable with the ACD and a big improvement on what had gone before. In fact I think that trimming (trimming note, not slashing) would be a very good strategy for Apple now. The traditionally high margins were probably a necessity when they were struggling, but now they are on the front foot across all sectors so could afford less profit per unit as unit sales continue to climb. Being Apple, this would probably take the form of better specs rather than reduced price, which brings us back to iMac.
I hope Apple doesn't lower there price's. They use that money too innovate. And we get the benefit's of that.
I also read rumors maybe even here that the next line of MBP's will offer a Blu-Ray option. I hope Blu-Ray is not mandatory. I have no interest in that technology at all.
To me spinning discs should be on the way out becuase moving parts always causes problems. I think media could and should be delivered via a thumb drive or SD card.
It's really funny when you think about it: On one hand, people like you claim that they went with a Mac because PC's are just so hard to work with, but on the other hand, there are people that say that mostly intelligent and sophisticated people work with Macs. So which is it? Are Macs so easy to use that anyone can work with them, or are Macs for geniuses?
Or maybe both? The most sophisticated people use Apple products exclusively. They are not for geeks.
The iMac is truly an amazing computer. I have recommended it to many of my friends and they love it. Being #1 best seller desktop on Amazon does tell something.
Lol! That's funny, I'd been wondering if there had been a rip in the space/time continuum and an anti-teckstud had slipped though! Let's hope they never meet because the result would be catastrophic!
I was thinking it was just another of the several teckstud personae that pop up from time to time, except that this time he is trolling the other trolls and/or just trying to parody the ultimate fanboy.
To be fair, iMacs contributing 25% of Desktop growth (quoted at 3% overall) means that iMac growth will add 0.75% to global desktop growth (based on 70% or so iMac sales growth) which still means that the iMac is a rounding error in overall sales... but that is still explosive growth at high margins for Apple.
I think you are wrong there Captain. If (all) desktop sales sales increase by 3% this year, that still amounts to a pretty small figure. Only around 4 million PCs.... and Macs.
If Apple sells one million more iMacs than last year... then that will represent 25% of desktop growth.
I haven't had a virus on a PC in the best part of a decade.
... that you <KNOW> about! Seriously, good on ya for being an enlightened consumer and maintaining the right protection on your PC. And buying what has the most value for you. As a Microsoft certified professional and PC user myself though - I'd rather (and do) come home to a Mac (my iMac G5 which is still running strong - six years and counting).
In the totally unreliable and rumor-based observation category, I have heard reports of bot hacks that actually clean other virii and hacks off of a compromised PC to reduce competition for their own use. So a bot infection might actually increase the performance of your PC, as least temporarily. Again, based on rumor and hearsay, don't give it more emphasis or credibility than it merits.
By the way - what's the MAC address of your machine.....
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Go to some PC forums argue all day how your most recent Windows from Craposoft is so much better than the previous one, and how by administering your PC just few hours a day you are almost virus and BSOD free...
Here nobody care... once you go Mac... your PC user arguments just look pathetic...
I prefer to pay more, get a better quality hardware, a better OS, better software, better overall consumer experience, and just enjoy my computer for what I use it for, rather than spending my evenings fixing, cleaning, upgrading, patching, reinstalling, complaining....
,,,Although I do have to wonder how much market share Apple is leaving on the table with such high gross margins. There certainly is room to maneuver. And before I get clobbered, no one knows the peak of the PxQ=TR curve. I would only guess that TR could be higher than it is at the current price points.
Not a burn but companies are profit maximizing entities not revenue maximizing - Acer is a good example of trying to be the latter and look at their margins (which impacts their ability to invest and innovate). Revenue maximization at the expense of margins has been a hiding to nothing for many players (stack em high, sell it cheap) see the US car industry, and even Toyota's recent frenzied run for world #1 could be seen as a core reason for overlooking some of the errors that have come to haunt them today. The graph shows Dell's precipitous fall from grace based on this strategy.
People who are good at revenue maximization are also great at managing margins in relation to their industry too (e.g. Walmart)
Thats because your Dell is always BSOD.
what's a BSOD? is that like a kernel panic?
PC lovers, give us a favor... please just go away...
Go to some PC forums argue all day how your most recent Windows from Craposoft is so much better than the previous one, and how by administering your PC just few hours a day you are almost virus and BSOD free...
Here nobody care... once you go Mac... your PC user arguments just look pathetic...
I prefer to pay more, get a better quality hardware, a better OS, better software, better overall consumer experience, and just enjoy my computer for what I use it for, rather than spending my evenings fixing, cleaning, upgrading, patching, reinstalling, complaining....
If for you, working with a PC surmounts to spending evenings "fixing, cleaning, upgrading, patching, reinstalling, and complaining" then perhaps you should determine if the problem is the computer, or if it's between the chair and the keyboard...
It's really funny when you think about it: On one hand, people like you claim that they went with a Mac because PC's are just so hard to work with, but on the other hand, there are people that say that mostly intelligent and sophisticated people work with Macs. So which is it? Are Macs so easy to use that anyone can work with them, or are Macs for geniuses?
If for you, working with a PC surmounts to spending evenings "fixing, cleaning, upgrading, patching, reinstalling, and complaining" then perhaps you should determine if the problem is the computer, or if it's between the chair and the keyboard...
It's really funny when you think about it: On one hand, people like you claim that they went with a Mac because PC's are just so hard to work with, but on the other hand, there are people that say that mostly intelligent and sophisticated people work with Macs. So which is it? Are Macs so easy to use that anyone can work with them, or are Macs for geniuses?
Ugh.
'nuff said.
PC lovers, give us a favor... please just go away...
Go to some PC forums argue all day how your most recent Windows from Craposoft is so much better than the previous one, and how by administering your PC just few hours a day you are almost virus and BSOD free...
Here nobody care... once you go Mac... your PC user arguments just look pathetic...
I prefer to pay more, get a better quality hardware, a better OS, better software, better overall consumer experience, and just enjoy my computer for what I use it for, rather than spending my evenings fixing, cleaning, upgrading, patching, reinstalling, complaining....
Thanks. I echo your sentiment.
AI posts an article that simply factually points out some good news about Macs and desktops, and a bunch of folks come out of nowhere making this a flame war between Macs and PCs.
When will they realize that most of us couldn't care?
Given what a company is best at, what is that elusive PROFIT-maximizing point where price and quantity deliver maximum impact.
It is about profits, of course, but in business school, the TR curve is used to illustrate the concept.
I was ready to buy a 27" top of the line iMac last year, until I saw it lacked a blu-ray drive.
Since then PCs have come down in price so much I can't see myself buying the iMac, even if Apple ever put a modern optical drive in it. Here in the UK I can literally get a Dell with a higher spec for HALF the price. Just nuts.
You also get Windows 7 and thousands of virus and malware
it doesn't mean I'm not a geek to the core
Apple does not make any product's for geek's. Geek out battling with your viruse's.
Anyway, re price comparisons. From my perspective I thought that with the new iMac Apple had actually trimmed their margins somewhat. It is a very high-specced machine, particularly with regards to the screen. Very high quality, comparable with the ACD and a big improvement on what had gone before. In fact I think that trimming (trimming note, not slashing) would be a very good strategy for Apple now. The traditionally high margins were probably a necessity when they were struggling, but now they are on the front foot across all sectors so could afford less profit per unit as unit sales continue to climb. Being Apple, this would probably take the form of better specs rather than reduced price, which brings us back to iMac.
I hope Apple doesn't lower there price's. They use that money too innovate. And we get the benefit's of that.
IF THEY'D JUST MAKE THE FREAKING xMAC ALREADY!!!!!
Well maybe Blu-Ray will take off, but I hope not.
I also read rumors maybe even here that the next line of MBP's will offer a Blu-Ray option. I hope Blu-Ray is not mandatory. I have no interest in that technology at all.
To me spinning discs should be on the way out becuase moving parts always causes problems. I think media could and should be delivered via a thumb drive or SD card.
Like this ...
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Beatles+...=01&id=2062730
Steve will never ruin his computer's with Blu-Ray. And unless that Beatles dongle incudes Apple Lossless, it is FAIL.
It's really funny when you think about it: On one hand, people like you claim that they went with a Mac because PC's are just so hard to work with, but on the other hand, there are people that say that mostly intelligent and sophisticated people work with Macs. So which is it? Are Macs so easy to use that anyone can work with them, or are Macs for geniuses?
Or maybe both? The most sophisticated people use Apple products exclusively. They are not for geeks.
Dell wants to buy up Apple and shut it down! But they will FAIL.
I would say you're correct about that FAIL part since Apple is seven times larger than Dell by market capitalization.
It would be like a minnow trying to swallow a whale...
I wish the iMac was modular.
You wish it was an Xmac, and you are a witch.
Lol! That's funny, I'd been wondering if there had been a rip in the space/time continuum and an anti-teckstud had slipped though! Let's hope they never meet because the result would be catastrophic!
I was thinking it was just another of the several teckstud personae that pop up from time to time, except that this time he is trolling the other trolls and/or just trying to parody the ultimate fanboy.
To be fair, iMacs contributing 25% of Desktop growth (quoted at 3% overall) means that iMac growth will add 0.75% to global desktop growth (based on 70% or so iMac sales growth) which still means that the iMac is a rounding error in overall sales... but that is still explosive growth at high margins for Apple.
I think you are wrong there Captain. If (all) desktop sales sales increase by 3% this year, that still amounts to a pretty small figure. Only around 4 million PCs.... and Macs.
If Apple sells one million more iMacs than last year... then that will represent 25% of desktop growth.
Oh give it a rest.
I haven't had a virus on a PC in the best part of a decade.
... that you <KNOW> about! Seriously, good on ya for being an enlightened consumer and maintaining the right protection on your PC. And buying what has the most value for you. As a Microsoft certified professional and PC user myself though - I'd rather (and do) come home to a Mac (my iMac G5 which is still running strong - six years and counting).
In the totally unreliable and rumor-based observation category, I have heard reports of bot hacks that actually clean other virii and hacks off of a compromised PC to reduce competition for their own use. So a bot infection might actually increase the performance of your PC, as least temporarily. Again, based on rumor and hearsay, don't give it more emphasis or credibility than it merits.
By the way - what's the MAC address of your machine.....