Safari will be looked at in a different way, for sure. Extensions had to be inevitable as the competition (Firefox and Chrome) have had them for a while.
I'm glad Safari opens up now to new possibilities.
These extensions seem very different than Firefox and Chrome. They can only use HTML5, CSS3, and JS. They seem more like Dashboard Widgets for Safari than plug-ins for your browser.
so anyone complaining it's slowed down on Intel hardware are full of crap and need to check out their personal Library with whatever junk they've added in there that might be incompatible.
so anyone complaining it's slowed down on Intel hardware are full of crap and need to check out their personal Library with whatever junk they've added in there that might be incompatible.
Seems about the same speed for me. Then again, I try not to make it a habit to use an atomic clock to see if it's the next version is actually faster.
I have to really say I'm impressed with the reader feature.
As for the extensions, meh. Can't really see me having any real need for them.
Makes me think, what are all the IE programmers doing at MS? Sleeping?
Have you seen the IE9 preview? The IE devs are more on track than they have ever been in the past. They are focusing on hardware acceleration which is exactly where they should be looking.
We are very close to being at a point when JavaScript speed tests won't mean jack. If HTML5 is ever going to replace Flash then GPU acceleration is the key.
Of course Apple/Google/Mozilla/Opera know this as well and are all at various stages of adding GPU acceleration, and they will probably all be to market before IE9, but it's not like the IE devs are sitting around doing nothing.
I'd love if someone could run the demos below in Safari 5 as I won't get a chance to install and test it for a few days. The IE9 preview never drops below 60fps on my PC.
No WebGL even though it has been in webkit for a while.
WebGL is more influx than HTML 5 and considering Apple is the Editor of WebGL via Chris Marrin I think they know how far along it has come.
There is a lot of documentation missing from the Draft Specification.
I'd love to have it ready for prime time, but as you said, we can always test code and write against WebKit Nightly until the time comes for another point release to see WebGL ready fro prime time.
Have you seen the IE9 preview? The IE devs are more on track than they have ever been in the past. They are focusing on hardware acceleration which is exactly where they should be looking.
We are very close to being at a point when JavaScript speed tests won't mean jack. If HTML5 is ever going to replace Flash then GPU acceleration is the key.
Of course Apple/Google/Mozilla/Opera know this as well and are all at various stages of adding GPU acceleration, and they will probably all be to market before IE9, but it's not like the IE devs are sitting around doing nothing.
I'd love if someone could run the demos below in Safari 5 as I won't get a chance to install and test it for a few days. The IE9 preview never drops below 60fps on my PC.
I'm getting 60fps on both of them, but they do drop down below 60fps. I'd say I have an average of 58fps on the first test and 55fps on the second test. Strangely, I tested this in Chrome 5 and they both drop to 5fps — yeah, five fps — or below.
These extensions seem very different than Firefox and Chrome. They can only use HTML5, CSS3, and JS. They seem more like Dashboard Widgets for Safari than plug-ins for your browser.
Yes they seem to be more like widgets. I guess this is Apple's way of opening up Safari.
Nevertheless, new possibilities.
Unfortunately, It seems stuff like Inquisitor will still not be part of this "extensions" program.
Macbook Pro i7 with 8 gigs ram. Took Safari 5 on a little trip to the Apple site to view the FaceTime video. Got about 5 seconds of video followed by a freeze frame and beach ball for 20 seconds. Then the video zoomed forward super fast to where it would have been after 20 seconds. Then it beachballed again. Reloaded the page and it played fine. Similar issues with the iPhone 4 video.
Not impressed. Can I have Safari 4 back now please?
Macbook Pro i7 with 8 gigs ram. Took Safari 5 on a little trip to the Apple site to view the FaceTime video. Got about 5 seconds of video followed by a freeze frame and beach ball for 20 seconds. Then the video zoomed forward super fast to where it would have been after 20 seconds. Then it beachballed again. Reloaded the page and it played fine. Similar issues with the iPhone 4 video.
Not impressed. Can I have Safari 4 back now please?
That's pretty sad. My machine pales in comparison to yours and it handled the video like a champ.
Yes they're see to be more like widgets. I guess this is Apple's way of opening up Safari.
Nevertheless, new possibilities.
Unfortunately, It seems stuff like Inquisitor will still not be part of this "extensions" program.
You can always do a plug-in like ClickToFlash or 1Password does. Or even get heavy handed like PithHelmet, but that often means you can't update your browser as often.
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Nope. Android trolls are screaming about the bezel now. It uses up 46% more bezel space than other phones.
When they are whining about the bezel you know they really have nothing to say.
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Safari will be looked at in a different way, for sure. Extensions had to be inevitable as the competition (Firefox and Chrome) have had them for a while.
I'm glad Safari opens up now to new possibilities.
These extensions seem very different than Firefox and Chrome. They can only use HTML5, CSS3, and JS. They seem more like Dashboard Widgets for Safari than plug-ins for your browser.
so anyone complaining it's slowed down on Intel hardware are full of crap and need to check out their personal Library with whatever junk they've added in there that might be incompatible.
Seems about the same speed for me. Then again, I try not to make it a habit to use an atomic clock to see if it's the next version is actually faster.
I have to really say I'm impressed with the reader feature.
As for the extensions, meh. Can't really see me having any real need for them.
I am glad to see the blue progress bar's return. Seems slower though. Also Reader is not available in 10.5.8.
Actually, it is.
But Reader only works once a page is fully loaded. And, even then, it only works on some pages with ads, etc.
Makes me think, what are all the IE programmers doing at MS? Sleeping?
Have you seen the IE9 preview? The IE devs are more on track than they have ever been in the past. They are focusing on hardware acceleration which is exactly where they should be looking.
We are very close to being at a point when JavaScript speed tests won't mean jack. If HTML5 is ever going to replace Flash then GPU acceleration is the key.
Of course Apple/Google/Mozilla/Opera know this as well and are all at various stages of adding GPU acceleration, and they will probably all be to market before IE9, but it's not like the IE devs are sitting around doing nothing.
I'd love if someone could run the demos below in Safari 5 as I won't get a chance to install and test it for a few days. The IE9 preview never drops below 60fps on my PC.
Browser Flip
Flying Images
Sunspider on 10.6 if anyone is interested:
Safari 5: 295.8ms +/- 0.8%
Chrome 5: 337.8ms +/- 2.6%
No WebGL even though it has been in webkit for a while.
WebGL is more influx than HTML 5 and considering Apple is the Editor of WebGL via Chris Marrin I think they know how far along it has come.
There is a lot of documentation missing from the Draft Specification.
I'd love to have it ready for prime time, but as you said, we can always test code and write against WebKit Nightly until the time comes for another point release to see WebGL ready fro prime time.
No WebGL even though it has been in webkit for a while.
Have you seen the IE9 preview? The IE devs are more on track than they have ever been in the past. They are focusing on hardware acceleration which is exactly where they should be looking.
We are very close to being at a point when JavaScript speed tests won't mean jack. If HTML5 is ever going to replace Flash then GPU acceleration is the key.
Of course Apple/Google/Mozilla/Opera know this as well and are all at various stages of adding GPU acceleration, and they will probably all be to market before IE9, but it's not like the IE devs are sitting around doing nothing.
I'd love if someone could run the demos below in Safari 5 as I won't get a chance to install and test it for a few days. The IE9 preview never drops below 60fps on my PC.
Browser Flip
Flying Images
I'm getting 60fps on both of them, but they do drop down below 60fps. I'd say I have an average of 58fps on the first test and 55fps on the second test. Strangely, I tested this in Chrome 5 and they both drop to 5fps — yeah, five fps — or below.
These extensions seem very different than Firefox and Chrome. They can only use HTML5, CSS3, and JS. They seem more like Dashboard Widgets for Safari than plug-ins for your browser.
Yes they seem to be more like widgets. I guess this is Apple's way of opening up Safari.
Nevertheless, new possibilities.
Unfortunately, It seems stuff like Inquisitor will still not be part of this "extensions" program.
Nope. Android trolls are screaming about the bezel now. It uses up 46% more bezel space than other phones.
When they are whining about the bezel you know they really have nothing to say.
Not impressed. Can I have Safari 4 back now please?
Macbook Pro i7 with 8 gigs ram. Took Safari 5 on a little trip to the Apple site to view the FaceTime video. Got about 5 seconds of video followed by a freeze frame and beach ball for 20 seconds. Then the video zoomed forward super fast to where it would have been after 20 seconds. Then it beachballed again. Reloaded the page and it played fine. Similar issues with the iPhone 4 video.
Not impressed. Can I have Safari 4 back now please?
That's pretty sad. My machine pales in comparison to yours and it handled the video like a champ.
When they are whining about the bezel you know they really have nothing to say.
They're still fun to watch, though.
Yes they're see to be more like widgets. I guess this is Apple's way of opening up Safari.
Nevertheless, new possibilities.
Unfortunately, It seems stuff like Inquisitor will still not be part of this "extensions" program.
You can always do a plug-in like ClickToFlash or 1Password does. Or even get heavy handed like PithHelmet, but that often means you can't update your browser as often.
Nope. Android trolls are screaming about the bezel now. It uses up 46% more bezel space than other phones.
When they are whining about the bezel you know they really have nothing to say.
What's this about the bezel?
Did we gain tabs on top? When can we download this thing?
no tabs on top for me please, if I need extra screen I go full screen using glims.
Glims & click2flash still work, yeah!!